Like Rhodesia, yes I follow you. I don’t think it would be that bad an idea to limit the franchise to those with a certain level of academic achievement really
Except that would just lead to the disenfranchised using protest or even violence if necessary to make their voice heard
Or they could study hard to obtain the necessary qualifications
I always thought the voting system that Neville Shute outlined in I the Wet had a lot going for it. Up to seven votes possible depending on a range of things the last only to be granted by the monarch.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
The line for rate of increase for each of the Western European countries is quite startling...
Yep. It's really something. Seeing them start to rocket is what made me a wee bit concerned.
It also reveals that of Washington State's 24 cases, 9 are dead. Which seems interesting...
It has to be certain that Washington State's 9 dead are NOT from 24 cases, but from somewhere closer to 300 to 400.
Italy's death rate - the highest in the developed world is 3.2%, and almost the only way lethality could be higher in Washington would be if the quality of care were a great deal worse.
A far likelier explanation is that reporting in the US is running 90% below reality. Which probably means that,the infection rate will get a very great deal worse, because that in turn means 90% of sick people are failing to self-isolate.
Trump's about to have a new Korea scale outbreak on his hands. And on his watch.
Which probably means we now have a real chance of an experienced, centrist politician in the White House next January.
Totally agreed. The scientist behind NextStrain.org said about 6 days ago that there was proof that it'd been circulating in Seattle since late Jan, and was probably doubling every 6.1 days. He said the midpoint prediction was 700 infections at that time. Which translates to 1,400 now.
Since then we've also discovered that there's been multiple strains in Seattle, so that initial prediction was too low.
How many other people slipped through the (non-existent) net in early Feb? 10, 50, 100? Whatever that number is, times it by 1,000 to get an extremely rough estimate of where the US is now. The US's response is terrifying.
Against those sorts of US projections, wouldn’t we expect a lot more people actually seriously ill by now?
Potentially, potentially not. What we do know is that this US flu season has been absolutely horrific in the US. So a drop off in the flu season could coincide with the rise of coronavirus cases. Bear in mind that it takes a while for otherwise healthy people to get hospitalisation sick and there's a decent incubation period.
Let's say that there's 15,000 cases in the US, about half would be very recently infected and perhaps not showing signs. 5 days ago there would have been ~7500 cases. Lets say that it takes 5-10 days of being ill before getting further treatment, now we're down to 3700-1875 cases mature enough. Add in a 9% intensive care rate and you're down to 300-170 people being hospitalised for Coronavirus out of a 15,000 total population at the time. That's a drop in the ocean in the US, given that they've completely missed 3 deaths from coronavirus (at least) it doesn't seem completely un-credible.
If the US ordinary flu has been that bad, you’d expect it to have reduced the pool of people who fall into the most at risk categories for wooflu, making the disparity in death rates even more marked.
If you're towards the backend of a flu season and people drop dead of flu symptoms you're going to assume that it's the flu. See: the 3 that died in Feb in Washington.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
I find it really pitiful that the President of the USA persists in calling his opponents silly names, most of us left that sort of behaviour behind in the schoolyard by the time we had reached 10 years of age. I can't think of anyone who has demeaned the office in the way Trump has.
I find it really pitiful that the President of the USA persists in calling his opponents silly names, most of us left that sort of behaviour behind in the schoolyard by the time we had reached 10 years of age. I can't think of anyone who has demeaned the office in the way Trump has.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
No need to be rude to me. I warned about this when Corbyn lost and the surge didn’t come. Enough for me.
Of course you'd say that, you wealthy well educated person!
More seriously, I find the fetishisation of membership size by some another sign of being overly concerned with members above all others. Important people, lifeblood of a party, any party, but there are limits.
I must have missed part of this conversation. Why are we talking about the size of Burgon’s member?
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
No need to be rude to me. I warned about this when Corbyn lost and the surge didn’t come. Enough for me.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
Our perceptions of laziness are skewed in the first place. The young are mostly working, the elderly are mostly not. We give one workday to vote with a couple of hours either end, and are surprised that the ones who have to also do a full days work in the middle are less likely to vote.
On top we then make absentee voting the realm of the post box and letters rather than online which again will skew massively to the elderly and against the young. Im not suggesting online voting as that has its own set of problems, but the set up is almost designed to assist elderly voters and deter younger ones (at least relatively).
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
It is because they don't give a monkeys, by and large, about politics, at that age.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
I think younger people might have been more susceptible to the constant messages "all politicians are the same" "all politicians are crap" and generally demonising politicians, which I find unhealthy. Most politicians are no worse than most other people. In fact, the only politicians I personally know (of the local variety in various countries), have, so far as I can tell, been mostly motivated by a sincere desire to make things better for their fellow human beings. Now, there may be a higher proportion of sociopaths, chancers and crooks at the very top. Power corrupts and all that. But most politicians are at least as decent as the rest of us.
And who does this anti-politician propaganda benefit? The rich and powerful - the same place a lot of it comes from. The ballot box is the one place we are all equal, after all.
Of course you'd say that, you wealthy well educated person!
More seriously, I find the fetishisation of membership size by some another sign of being overly concerned with members above all others. Important people, lifeblood of a party, any party, but there are limits.
I must have missed part of this conversation. Why are we talking about the size of Burgon’s member?
Of course you'd say that, you wealthy well educated person!
More seriously, I find the fetishisation of membership size by some another sign of being overly concerned with members above all others. Important people, lifeblood of a party, any party, but there are limits.
I must have missed part of this conversation. Why are we talking about the size of Burgon’s member?
Is its possible that its greater than his IQ>?
That I wouldn’t know, but I certainly wouldn’t use ‘fetishising’ and ‘member size’ in the same sentence.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
Our perceptions of laziness are skewed in the first place. The young are mostly working, the elderly are mostly not. We give one workday to vote with a couple of hours either end, and are surprised that the ones who have to also do a full days work in the middle are less likely to vote.
On top we then make absentee voting the realm of the post box and letters rather than online which again will skew massively to the elderly and against the young. Im not suggesting online voting as that has its own set of problems, but the set up is almost designed to assist elderly voters and deter younger ones (at least relatively).
Are the youth of today unable to seal an envelope or something?
Like Rhodesia, yes I follow you. I don’t think it would be that bad an idea to limit the franchise to those with a certain level of academic achievement really
So you'd disenfranchise Cambridge graduates?
Gets my vote.....
According to wiki MPs for Oxford University were elected under STV between 1918 and 1935:
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
No need to be rude to me. I warned about this when Corbyn lost and the surge didn’t come. Enough for me.
I wasn't being rude to you. I actually thought I was agreeing with you as it sounded like you'd foresaw Sanders plan was doomed. You never even said what I was saying. It's Sanders and his supporters who were delusional enough to think he was winning a Youthquake. I never thought you were saying that, in fact I don't recall speaking to you much since the election and kudos to you for coming back.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
We could talk about some of the strange traits in human behavior are brought out by crisis. Apparently 10,000 masks and thousands of bottles of Han sanitizer have ‘disappeared’ from French hospitals. You now need a prescription to buy a mask.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
Our perceptions of laziness are skewed in the first place. The young are mostly working, the elderly are mostly not. We give one workday to vote with a couple of hours either end, and are surprised that the ones who have to also do a full days work in the middle are less likely to vote.
On top we then make absentee voting the realm of the post box and letters rather than online which again will skew massively to the elderly and against the young. Im not suggesting online voting as that has its own set of problems, but the set up is almost designed to assist elderly voters and deter younger ones (at least relatively).
Are the youth of today unable to seal an envelope or something?
Are the elderly of today unable to work an I-Phone or Instagram?
Different generations are used to different things, it doesnt make one better or worse than the other.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
No need to be rude to me. I warned about this when Corbyn lost and the surge didn’t come. Enough for me.
Why do you take everything personally? He wasn't being rude to you, he was making a point about the left in general.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
You're fooling no-one with your "not meaning to send @eadric off on one..." line!
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
It is because they don't give a monkeys, by and large, about politics, at that age.
I disagree. At least based on my entirely anecdotal evidence of my 3 and their friends. They are very interested and all vote. But the 2 who were at least prepared to listen to Corbyn when he first came on the scene made an active decision to turn away from him by last year. And not because of laziness.
“The lazy young” is a a tired assumption it seems to me. And more than a bit patronising.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
You're fooling no-one with your "not meaning to send @eadric off on one..." line!
The problem with Sanders is his rhetoric is going to lead to delivering a Trump victory if Biden gets the nomination.
He is causing a chasm between his supporters and other Dems , and this will cause problems trying to unite in November.
This was the charge Clinton made in 2016, and I'm not sure I really buy it. The chasms are already there, and figures like Clinton and Biden will simply tend to reduce left turnout even without prior leftwing involvement in the primaries.
The right and left of the Democrats blaming each other is a symptom of their different constituencies, not understanding each other and huge cultural divides.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
We could talk about some of the strange traits in human behavior are brought out by crisis. Apparently 10,000 masks and thousands of bottles of Han sanitizer have ‘disappeared’ from French hospitals. You now need a prescription to buy a mask.
“Han sanitizer”. That is a brilliant typo!
I am making my own. I make my own hand cream and exfoliator - largely to save my poor hands from what gardening does to them. So this is not such a big step.
We could talk about what is happening on the Greek border. Or what the hell the Turks are doing in Syria.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
I think that's exactly what it is!
I've long had a theory that the reason the non-voting young don't vote nowadays is not because they are disenchanted but instead because they are content and as a result complacent. Rather than angry they are ok with their lives: they've not had to work, they've not struggled with debt, they've not struggled to put food on the table, they've not had to pay taxes.
Today's young adults have been infantilised and it's only once they grow up and real life kicks them that they find something that bothers enough to vote. Until then they're not lazy they just don't care - and they noisy youth that do care about firebrands are the odd ones out.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I have spoken to my doctor about my current infection today and am taking another course of anti biotics. He said I was in the highest risk factor which I did know but was unable to advise whether or not I should travel to Vancouver in May
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
We could talk about some of the strange traits in human behavior are brought out by crisis. Apparently 10,000 masks and thousands of bottles of Han sanitizer have ‘disappeared’ from French hospitals. You now need a prescription to buy a mask.
“Han sanitizer”. That is a brilliant typo!
I am making my own. I make my own hand cream and exfoliator - largely to save my poor hands from what gardening does to them. So this is not such a big step.
We could talk about what is happening on the Greek border. Or what the hell the Turks are doing in Syria.
Actually all sorts of things are slipping below the radar giving a free pass to organizations to get away with anything. Our ability to cope with more than two issues at once is limited, well for men it is!
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
No need to be rude to me. I warned about this when Corbyn lost and the surge didn’t come. Enough for me.
Why do you take everything personally? He wasn't being rude to you, he was making a point about the left in general.
I think CHB was actually taking the micky out of himself. That is how I read it.
Of course you'd say that, you wealthy well educated person!
More seriously, I find the fetishisation of membership size by some another sign of being overly concerned with members above all others. Important people, lifeblood of a party, any party, but there are limits.
I must have missed part of this conversation. Why are we talking about the size of Burgon’s member?
Is its possible that its greater than his IQ>?
That I wouldn’t know, but I certainly wouldn’t use ‘fetishising’ and ‘member size’ in the same sentence.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
I think that's exactly what it is!
I've long had a theory that the reason the non-voting young don't vote nowadays is not because they are disenchanted but instead because they are content and as a result complacent. Rather than angry they are ok with their lives: they've not had to work, they've not struggled with debt, they've not struggled to put food on the table, they've not had to pay taxes.
Today's young adults have been infantilised and it's only once they grow up and real life kicks them that they find something that bothers enough to vote. Until then they're not lazy they just don't care - and they noisy youth that do care about firebrands are the odd ones out.
There's some elements of truth in this, but then many millennials do undoubtedly struggle with a more precarious existence than their parents. I think particularly since the 1980s, and in Britain and in America particularly, any form of collective optimism that the young might invest in a political party still has to swim heavily against the individualist tide. There's greater barriers of cynicism, self-consciousness, and solely economic self-interest than before, with the internet and social media increasing that atomisation, as well as ghettoising political warriors of the left and right slightly away from the cultural mainstream in their own facebook algorithms and groups. That doesn't mean it's impossible, though.
Disappointed it's not going to be Bernie. Biden will doubtless beat Trump - which let's face it is the main thing - but IMO Bernie would have done so too. President Sanders could have been iconic and the necessary game-changer for a country so wealthy and powerful yet with such deeply offensive levels of poverty and inequality. Change is coming - but not quite yet.
That said, Biden is OK. And compared to the individual he will replace he is the Second Coming. So, yes, I'm totally behind him now. Whatever it takes, including the right medication. C'mon Joe!
Biden won't beat Trump. .
Coronavirus is the game-changer here, otherwise I'd agree.
And, no, Sanders wouldn't win. He would be utterly pulverised in the US election. For Americans he's 1000x worse than Corbyn. Not because of terrorist sympathies or anti-semitism but the worst 'S' crime of them all. Socialist.
Things are changing. 57% of Dems in *Texas* see socialism as favourable vs only 37% unfavourable.
The thing is GOP have cried wolf on calling every dem a socialist it is losing its effect. In a similar in which the left called everyone they didnt like racist.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
Yes, it is a subset of youth that are engaged, and do turn out. The rest don't care much, at least until politics slaps them in the face with something like tuition fees.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
I think younger people might have been more susceptible to the constant messages "all politicians are the same" "all politicians are crap" and generally demonising politicians, which I find unhealthy. Most politicians are no worse than most other people. In fact, the only politicians I personally know (of the local variety in various countries), have, so far as I can tell, been mostly motivated by a sincere desire to make things better for their fellow human beings. Now, there may be a higher proportion of sociopaths, chancers and crooks at the very top. Power corrupts and all that. But most politicians are at least as decent as the rest of us.
And who does this anti-politician propaganda benefit? The rich and powerful - the same place a lot of it comes from. The ballot box is the one place we are all equal, after all.
I 100% disagree. If they thought that they'd be more balanced in their voting. I think the people who vote have something they care about but don't reflect the rest of their age cohort. They'd don't think politicians are the same, they don't t think about politics full stop. They haven't experienced or thought about politics much at all in the first place. They simply and frankly don't care.
I doubt they've had enough conversations about politics for "they're all the same" to even feature that highly in their thinking.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
Sanders had a terrific day.
OK, the electoral results were a bit shit but it’s more than compensated for by Bloomberg’s endorsement.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I have spoken to my doctor about my current infection today and am taking another course of anti biotics. He said I was in the highest risk factor which I did know but was unable to advise whether or not I should travel to Vancouver in May
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
I fear that last might be the most risky thing in your post.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
Sanders had a terrific day.
OK, the electoral results were a bit shit but it’s more than compensated for by Bloomberg’s endorsement.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
Sanders had a terrific day.
OK, the electoral results were a bit shit but it’s more than compensated for by Bloomberg’s endorsement.
Eh?
Bloomberg endorsed Biden. Best news imaginable for Sanders.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I have spoken to my doctor about my current infection today and am taking another course of anti biotics. He said I was in the highest risk factor which I did know but was unable to advise whether or not I should travel to Vancouver in May
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
I fear that last might be the most risky thing in your post.
Interesting to know how many posters on here had parents that were interested in politics, watched the news and reacted to it. We are quick to claim young people just are not interested but are the just reflecting their parents?
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I have spoken to my doctor about my current infection today and am taking another course of anti biotics. He said I was in the highest risk factor which I did know but was unable to advise whether or not I should travel to Vancouver in May
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I have spoken to my doctor about my current infection today and am taking another course of anti biotics. He said I was in the highest risk factor which I did know but was unable to advise whether or not I should travel to Vancouver in May
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
Back in September he thought Warren was going to be the nominee.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I have spoken to my doctor about my current infection today and am taking another course of anti biotics. He said I was in the highest risk factor which I did know but was unable to advise whether or not I should travel to Vancouver in May
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
The point about planes needing to keep flying so that airlines do not forfeit their slots was raised at PMQs today.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I have spoken to my doctor about my current infection today and am taking another course of anti biotics. He said I was in the highest risk factor which I did know but was unable to advise whether or not I should travel to Vancouver in May
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
Highest risk? Does your doc know you are only 20?
One does need to separate risk of dying from risk of being infected in the first place. I doubt if Mr G goes to packed night clubs or othe mass events but I would think twice about going to this years eistddord.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
Back in September he thought Warren was going to be the nominee.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I have spoken to my doctor about my current infection today and am taking another course of anti biotics. He said I was in the highest risk factor which I did know but was unable to advise whether or not I should travel to Vancouver in May
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
The point about planes needing to keep flying so that airlines do not forfeit their slots was raised at PMQs today.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
Interesting to know how many posters on here had parents that were interested in politics, watched the news and reacted to it. We are quick to claim young people just are not interested but are the just reflecting their parents?
I cannot blame my parents for be becoming a geeky spod, I don't recall either of them discussing politics with me on a single occasion in my formative years. I've sinced learned my father has voted for pretty much everyone including OMRLP, and has gone from membership of a Conservative club (though how passionately I know not) to Corbynista. No telling with some people. He did state when I was a teen that Labour won under Blair by becoming the Tories, so maybe that was a sign, though it was without criticism at the time.
Interesting to know how many posters on here had parents that were interested in politics, watched the news and reacted to it. We are quick to claim young people just are not interested but are the just reflecting their parents?
As a boy, I watched my Dad read a broadsheet newspaper - either Guardian or the Times - from beginning to end, front page to sports, every day. It took him half an hour or more.
But wow he was well informed, and I picked up the habit, and read a serious newspaper every day until about 10 years ago (now I pick and choose articles online)
It's a great but unspoken loss - the reading of the papers. A good newspaper tells you about lots of different stuff, not just stuff you already know you find interesting. It broadens the mind and sharpens the vocabulary.
It is sad the habit is dying out.
I wonder where we would be on coronavirus without internet and only a printed press and daily TV news (not rolling 24hrs). I doubt it would be on the front pages in the UK (yet).
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
I have spoken to my doctor about my current infection today and am taking another course of anti biotics. He said I was in the highest risk factor which I did know but was unable to advise whether or not I should travel to Vancouver in May
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
Highest risk? Does your doc know you are only 20?
One does need to separate risk of dying from risk of being infected in the first place. I doubt if Mr G goes to packed night clubs or othe mass events but I would think twice about going to this years eistddord.
Mr and Mrs Big G are fortunate that we only socialise with our family, have not been in a cinema since the first screening of South Pacific, and generally enjoy our home and garden. Our days at going to events are long past so we are fortunate in that respect and actually to self isolate would be relatively easy
Interesting to know how many posters on here had parents that were interested in politics, watched the news and reacted to it. We are quick to claim young people just are not interested but are the just reflecting their parents?
As a boy, I watched my Dad read a broadsheet newspaper - either Guardian or the Times - from beginning to end, front page to sports, every day. It took him half an hour or more.
But wow he was well informed, and I picked up the habit, and read a serious newspaper every day until about 10 years ago (now I pick and choose articles online)
It's a great but unspoken loss - the reading of the papers. A good newspaper tells you about lots of different stuff, not just stuff you already know you find interesting. It broadens the mind and sharpens the vocabulary.
I am stunned by how identical Sanders’ situation is to Corbyn. Yet again young people simply do not turn out to vote.
I swear in sixty years time (if I make it that far) I'll still be reading people shocked that young people simply do not turn out - and also saying that the left will ultimately take over because the young support them so when the old die off the country will be full of leftwingers.
It is of course possible that the reason the young don’t turn out for politicians like Sanders and Corbyn is because they are not enthused by them or their message. Rather than laziness.
I think younger people might have been more susceptible to the constant messages "all politicians are the same" "all politicians are crap" and generally demonising politicians, which I find unhealthy. Most politicians are no worse than most other people. In fact, the only politicians I personally know (of the local variety in various countries), have, so far as I can tell, been mostly motivated by a sincere desire to make things better for their fellow human beings. Now, there may be a higher proportion of sociopaths, chancers and crooks at the very top. Power corrupts and all that. But most politicians are at least as decent as the rest of us.
And who does this anti-politician propaganda benefit? The rich and powerful - the same place a lot of it comes from. The ballot box is the one place we are all equal, after all.
I 100% disagree. If they thought that they'd be more balanced in their voting. I think the people who vote have something they care about but don't reflect the rest of their age cohort. They'd don't think politicians are the same, they don't t think about politics full stop. They haven't experienced or thought about politics much at all in the first place. They simply and frankly don't care.
I doubt they've had enough conversations about politics for "they're all the same" to even feature that highly in their thinking.
The ones who don't vote are pretty much by definition "balanced in their voting"
Sure some don't care, but most of the ones I know are very political but are sadly convinced that voting is a sham
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
We could talk about some of the strange traits in human behavior are brought out by crisis. Apparently 10,000 masks and thousands of bottles of Han sanitizer have ‘disappeared’ from French hospitals. You now need a prescription to buy a mask.
“Han sanitizer”. That is a brilliant typo!
I am making my own. I make my own hand cream and exfoliator - largely to save my poor hands from what gardening does to them. So this is not such a big step.
We could talk about what is happening on the Greek border. Or what the hell the Turks are doing in Syria.
How do you make your own?
I have a shagload of sanitiser in the loft, thanks to some - ahem - clairvoyance, but if this drags on for months even that will run out (given that you're meant to use it ten times a day etc)
AIUI you need 60% alcohol and aloe vera. Where does one buy 60% alky?
Interesting to know how many posters on here had parents that were interested in politics, watched the news and reacted to it. We are quick to claim young people just are not interested but are the just reflecting their parents?
As a boy, I watched my Dad read a broadsheet newspaper - either Guardian or the Times - from beginning to end, front page to sports, every day. It took him half an hour or more.
But wow he was well informed, and I picked up the habit, and read a serious newspaper every day until about 10 years ago (now I pick and choose articles online)
It's a great but unspoken loss - the reading of the papers. A good newspaper tells you about lots of different stuff, not just stuff you already know you find interesting. It broadens the mind and sharpens the vocabulary.
It is sad the habit is dying out.
I wonder where we would be on coronavirus without internet and only a printed press and daily TV news (not rolling 24hrs). I doubt it would be on the front pages in the UK (yet).
And if there was ‘fog in channel’ Europe would be ‘cut off’
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
We could talk about some of the strange traits in human behavior are brought out by crisis. Apparently 10,000 masks and thousands of bottles of Han sanitizer have ‘disappeared’ from French hospitals. You now need a prescription to buy a mask.
“Han sanitizer”. That is a brilliant typo!
I am making my own. I make my own hand cream and exfoliator - largely to save my poor hands from what gardening does to them. So this is not such a big step.
We could talk about what is happening on the Greek border. Or what the hell the Turks are doing in Syria.
How do you make your own?
I have a shagload of sanitiser in the loft, thanks to some - ahem - clairvoyance, but if this drags on for months even that will run out (given that you're meant to use it ten times a day etc)
AIUI you need 60% alcohol and aloe vera. Where does one buy 60% alky?
Interesting to know how many posters on here had parents that were interested in politics, watched the news and reacted to it. We are quick to claim young people just are not interested but are the just reflecting their parents?
As a boy, I watched my Dad read a broadsheet newspaper - either Guardian or the Times - from beginning to end, front page to sports, every day. It took him half an hour or more.
But wow he was well informed, and I picked up the habit, and read a serious newspaper every day until about 10 years ago (now I pick and choose articles online)
It's a great but unspoken loss - the reading of the papers. A good newspaper tells you about lots of different stuff, not just stuff you already know you find interesting. It broadens the mind and sharpens the vocabulary.
It is sad the habit is dying out.
The quality of journalism is too.
The Telegraph used to be up there with the Times.
It’s now absolute shite.
And that’s not a massively high bar. Ultimately I feel that newspapers went wrong when they started treating opinion as news. And unfortunately it’s even something that has infested the TV news channels these days. Constant editorialising when people need the facts.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
We could talk about some of the strange traits in human behavior are brought out by crisis. Apparently 10,000 masks and thousands of bottles of Han sanitizer have ‘disappeared’ from French hospitals. You now need a prescription to buy a mask.
“Han sanitizer”. That is a brilliant typo!
I am making my own. I make my own hand cream and exfoliator - largely to save my poor hands from what gardening does to them. So this is not such a big step.
We could talk about what is happening on the Greek border. Or what the hell the Turks are doing in Syria.
How do you make your own?
I have a shagload of sanitiser in the loft, thanks to some - ahem - clairvoyance, but if this drags on for months even that will run out (given that you're meant to use it ten times a day etc)
AIUI you need 60% alcohol and aloe vera. Where does one buy 60% alky?
Stroh rum.
Woods 100 is rather good rum, and at 57% abv (if drunk neat!) Is virucidal for Coronavirus (estimated 40 something % required) so Splice the Mainbrace and get ready to go over the top!
Interesting to know how many posters on here had parents that were interested in politics, watched the news and reacted to it. We are quick to claim young people just are not interested but are the just reflecting their parents?
My parents had a normal interest in politics. My mum is a Conservative of the Christian Democrat type (she disapproves of Boris Johnson). My dad proudly boasted of being a promiscuous floating voter. They talked about politics occasionally. It was not a big part of home life though.
My mum knows I bet on politics, essentially disapproves but occasionally coyly asks me what I think is going to happen about some events. I usually disappoint her with my lack of certainty.
I'm still struggling to understand why Italy seems to have such a worse handle on the situation than so many other places. A different strain ? A different age profile ? Poor organisation ? Different data ? What's the reason.
It is antigenically a slightly different strain, but I don't think Italy is handling it badly. Just unlucky that it hit there first.
Obviously luck is part of it, but also note the hand washing stats from 2015 (someone posted this yesterday but relevant to above question)
In relation to its size Venice might also be the most visited European tourist city for Chinese travellers.
Hmm. Not quite sure I accept this outrageous slur about our national hygiene:
The accuracy of the results, however, may be debatable after a 2011 study found that, while 95 per cent of Britons claim to wash their hands after visiting the bathroom, barely a tenth actually do.
Seems ridiculously low to me and how could they possibly verify it?
WTF?
I don't believe that only one in ten wash their hands after using the bathroom.
Remember when we worried about a No-Deal Brexit, comparable to That Time It Snowed but a little longer? Good times!
I remember the times when 1000s of pixels were wasted on debates over Gregg's pasty taxes and if the chancellor should order a posh burger or not.....
This outbreak does put into perspective all the nonsense about supply shortages if we hard Brexit'ed, when if 20%+ of the population is off work for weeks on end, then we will really see genuine shortages.
Remember when we worried about a No-Deal Brexit, comparable to That Time It Snowed but a little longer? Good times!
I was thinking just that today. O for the horrors of No Deal Brexit! A big new lorry park in Kent! A slight shortage of Brie! Possible difficulties with pensions for expats that will nonetheless get sorted!
Now we have: millions will die, entire countries will collapse. Regents Park will become a tented mortuary.
This guy was one of the biggest Project Fearmongers against Brexit. Now he wants to dismiss coronavirus as media hype
I think he is wrong; generally the scarier a CV headline, the more boringly authoritative the source turns out to be. There's a shedload of *really* frightening stuff from China and Iran on twitter, but it isn't breaking through to MSM. Indeed, I am struck by the lack of reporting from Our Man On The Spot in Wuhan or Tehran: having that footage either confirmed, or debunked, by a reliable source would clarify things a lot.
I do realise that coronavirus is v v serious. I really do. I am at higher risk if I catch it than I would like. So I am washing my hands and being sensible.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
We could talk about some of the strange traits in human behavior are brought out by crisis. Apparently 10,000 masks and thousands of bottles of Han sanitizer have ‘disappeared’ from French hospitals. You now need a prescription to buy a mask.
“Han sanitizer”. That is a brilliant typo!
I am making my own. I make my own hand cream and exfoliator - largely to save my poor hands from what gardening does to them. So this is not such a big step.
We could talk about what is happening on the Greek border. Or what the hell the Turks are doing in Syria.
How do you make your own?
I have a shagload of sanitiser in the loft, thanks to some - ahem - clairvoyance, but if this drags on for months even that will run out (given that you're meant to use it ten times a day etc)
AIUI you need 60% alcohol and aloe vera. Where does one buy 60% alky?
Stroh rum.
Surgical spirit. Boots.
I wouldn’t recommend @eadric drinks surgical spirit should the panic pass quicker than expected.
Interesting to know how many posters on here had parents that were interested in politics, watched the news and reacted to it. We are quick to claim young people just are not interested but are the just reflecting their parents?
My parents had a normal interest in politics. My mum is a Conservative of the Christian Democrat type (she disapproves of Boris Johnson). My dad proudly boasted of being a promiscuous floating voter. They talked about politics occasionally. It was not a big part of home life though.
My mum knows I bet on politics, essentially disapproves but occasionally coyly asks me what I think is going to happen about some events. I usually disappoint her with my lack of certainty.
Same with my parents.
They basically think gambling is a decadent sin (and slightly non-U) but also ask me questions I can’t answer too.
Remember when we worried about a No-Deal Brexit, comparable to That Time It Snowed but a little longer? Good times!
I remember the times when 1000s of pixels were wasted on debates over Gregg's pasty taxes and if the chancellor should order a posh burger or not.....
This outbreak does put into perspective all the nonsense about supply shortages if we hard Brexit'ed, when if 20%+ of the population is off work for weeks on end, then we will really see genuine shortages.
Before I discovered PB. I trust we considered Byron to be downmarket overpriced crap?
Remember when we worried about a No-Deal Brexit, comparable to That Time It Snowed but a little longer? Good times!
I was thinking just that today. O for the horrors of No Deal Brexit! A big new lorry park in Kent! A slight shortage of Brie! Possible difficulties with pensions for expats that will nonetheless get sorted!
Now we have: millions will die, entire countries will collapse. Regents Park will become a tented mortuary.
Feck.
I keep imagining the gorgeous professional young women in my office naked.
Remember when we worried about a No-Deal Brexit, comparable to That Time It Snowed but a little longer? Good times!
I was thinking just that today. O for the horrors of No Deal Brexit! A big new lorry park in Kent! A slight shortage of Brie! Possible difficulties with pensions for expats that will nonetheless get sorted!
Now we have: millions will die, entire countries will collapse. Regents Park will become a tented mortuary.
Feck.
I keep imagining the gorgeous professional young women in my office naked.
Can you help?
Do you expect him to send more gorgeous professional women?
I'm still struggling to understand why Italy seems to have such a worse handle on the situation than so many other places. A different strain ? A different age profile ? Poor organisation ? Different data ? What's the reason.
It is antigenically a slightly different strain, but I don't think Italy is handling it badly. Just unlucky that it hit there first.
Obviously luck is part of it, but also note the hand washing stats from 2015 (someone posted this yesterday but relevant to above question)
In relation to its size Venice might also be the most visited European tourist city for Chinese travellers.
Hmm. Not quite sure I accept this outrageous slur about our national hygiene:
The accuracy of the results, however, may be debatable after a 2011 study found that, while 95 per cent of Britons claim to wash their hands after visiting the bathroom, barely a tenth actually do.
Seems ridiculously low to me and how could they possibly verify it?
WTF?
I don't believe that only one in ten wash their hands after using the bathroom.
I mean kids... sure... But the rest of us?
Alas, in hospitals and laboratories, the results are shocking too. How can you tell? - cameras on the wash basins, then simple counting.
The way Johns Hopkins finally got rid of its intractable central line infection issues? - resetting the culture to allow nurses to speak up if they saw that surgeons had not washed their hands or had otherwise not followed good hygiene, or if anyone did not follow the protocol for putting in a line.
Remember when we worried about a No-Deal Brexit, comparable to That Time It Snowed but a little longer? Good times!
I was thinking just that today. O for the horrors of No Deal Brexit! A big new lorry park in Kent! A slight shortage of Brie! Possible difficulties with pensions for expats that will nonetheless get sorted!
Now we have: millions will die, entire countries will collapse. Regents Park will become a tented mortuary.
Feck.
I keep imagining the gorgeous professional young women in my office naked.
Can you help?
Do you expect him to send more gorgeous professional women?
We should be doing that here. Now. Why are we still hosting France in a massive rugby match, with tens of thousands of visitors?!?!
Nuts.
As the expert said this morning, pushing people into pubs and front rooms to watch it on TV is more risky. In an open air stadium the worst is that a carrier infects the people sitting either side. So it’s cancel, or hold, not hold with no audience.
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Nov. - Time to Die.....
Ah, my coat.
But at the moment with the wall to wall coverage of it, including on here, I rather fear that I am at risk of dying of boredom with the topic.
Sorry. Not meaning to sound frivolous or wanting to send @eadric off on one. But really. Even in wartime people occasionally talked about other stuff.
On top we then make absentee voting the realm of the post box and letters rather than online which again will skew massively to the elderly and against the young. Im not suggesting online voting as that has its own set of problems, but the set up is almost designed to assist elderly voters and deter younger ones (at least relatively).
And who does this anti-politician propaganda benefit? The rich and powerful - the same place a lot of it comes from. The ballot box is the one place we are all equal, after all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_University_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_1920s
Good to be reminded of the legendary Crutwell.
Different generations are used to different things, it doesnt make one better or worse than the other.
He is causing a chasm between his supporters and other Dems , and this will cause problems trying to unite in November.
“The lazy young” is a a tired assumption it seems to me. And more than a bit patronising.
The right and left of the Democrats blaming each other is a symptom of their different constituencies, not understanding each other and huge cultural divides.
Flybe likely to go bankrupt very soon without a government handout (which has been refused).
Orihuela.
I am making my own. I make my own hand cream and exfoliator - largely to save my poor hands from what gardening does to them. So this is not such a big step.
We could talk about what is happening on the Greek border. Or what the hell the Turks are doing in Syria.
On the other hand Bernie is only just in excess of 250,000 ahead in California
I've long had a theory that the reason the non-voting young don't vote nowadays is not because they are disenchanted but instead because they are content and as a result complacent. Rather than angry they are ok with their lives: they've not had to work, they've not struggled with debt, they've not struggled to put food on the table, they've not had to pay taxes.
Today's young adults have been infantilised and it's only once they grow up and real life kicks them that they find something that bothers enough to vote. Until then they're not lazy they just don't care - and they noisy youth that do care about firebrands are the odd ones out.
My wife and I will take that decision at the end of April and if we decide not to go we lose our air fare. However, the hotel and other costs are free to cancel with no penalty
I have noticed reports of planes flying with few passengers and that does not look as if it is going to change anytime soon
However, I agree with you Cyclefree and do read 'eadric'posts but am not influenced by his somewhat scary stories but he is an important poster.
I saw some early postings on the US politics this morning and it was so funny to see poster after poster trying to get HYUFD to admit he called Sanders wrong without any success whatsover
I do agree with the poster who suggested to accept you are wrong on occasions is good for the soul, but I am holding my breath for HYUFD
The thing is GOP have cried wolf on calling every dem a socialist it is losing its effect. In a similar in which the left called everyone they didnt like racist.
I doubt they've had enough conversations about politics for "they're all the same" to even feature that highly in their thinking.
OK, the electoral results were a bit shit but it’s more than compensated for by Bloomberg’s endorsement.
Had they pulled out before the early voting started?????
Probably not as 10% might have gone for sanders and 10% might not have voted for anybody.
But still sanders looks like he has 'won' California with less that 32%
Note: Counting still ongoing so numbers and % may change.
"Migrant 'shot dead by Greek police' at Turkish border
Turkey says Greek forces killed a migrant and wounded five others but Greece says the claims are "fake news"."
https://news.sky.com/story/migrant-shot-dead-by-greek-police-at-turkish-border-11949436
"Flybe could collapse in days amid outbreak-related slump in bookings
Sources said on Wednesday that there was a possibility that Flybe could fall into administration within a matter of days."
https://news.sky.com/story/regional-airline-flybe-in-last-ditch-talks-to-avert-collapse-11949393
"Italy shuts all schools and universities as deaths rise
Italy's prime minister says the health service could be overwhelmed - as authorities plan to expand the quarantine "red zone"."
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-italy-shuts-schools-and-universities-as-deaths-rise-11949431
The Telegraph used to be up there with the Times.
It’s now absolute shite.
Sure some don't care, but most of the ones I know are very political but are sadly convinced that voting is a sham
I just think the whole franchise struggles without the creativity and imagination of Ian Fleming.
Only one I can think of who’s got the broad flavour right (in novels) is Anthony Horowitz.
https://twitter.com/jlukeroberts/status/1235271142069481477?s=19
Off to the match shortly, before this sort of thing gets banned.
Odds have come in a bit but too short on Birmingham still.
My mum knows I bet on politics, essentially disapproves but occasionally coyly asks me what I think is going to happen about some events. I usually disappoint her with my lack of certainty.
I don't believe that only one in ten wash their hands after using the bathroom.
I mean kids... sure... But the rest of us?
This outbreak does put into perspective all the nonsense about supply shortages if we hard Brexit'ed, when if 20%+ of the population is off work for weeks on end, then we will really see genuine shortages.
https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1233899404517527552
They basically think gambling is a decadent sin (and slightly non-U) but also ask me questions I can’t answer too.
Can you help?
The way Johns Hopkins finally got rid of its intractable central line infection issues? - resetting the culture to allow nurses to speak up if they saw that surgeons had not washed their hands or had otherwise not followed good hygiene, or if anyone did not follow the protocol for putting in a line.
And then they forgot to turn out to vote.