The best two candidates for the Democrats are Biden and Warren in my opinion.
I use 3 positive metrics and 1 negative when weighing primary candidates:
Who has popular policies? Sanders
Who is charismatic? No one.
Who can unite the party? Warren
Who can divide the party? Buttigieg, Sanders
Last time in 2016 Trump had 2 out of 3 positives and the 1 negative but Hillary scored nothing on all.
There is nothing divisive about Buttigieg.
Yes there is. Progressives like me see him as yet another middle of the road, centrist, corporate hack. Mayo Pete: rich and white.
I'd vote for him over Trump, but with no enthusiasm. My wife doesn't think she could - she says she might sit the general out if he's the nominee as we live in a state, New York, that won't go anything but Democrat.
Buttigieg, if he is the nominee, will have the most progressive platform of any major party nominee in US history.
I'd vote for him over Trump, but with no enthusiasm.
All votes count exactly the same, whether cast with enthusiasm or not.
People tend to forget this. It's nice to get the "Oh, [insert name here]" chants. But, ultimately, it's more important to persuade a plurality that you're marginally better than the alternative.
Corbyn and Sanders are, in my view, good examples of people who enthuse quite a lot of people at the cost of making a lot of people (whose votes count just as much) quietly say, "nah, not for me".
True, but you could say the same about Trump. And Johnson, to a lesser extent.
Although we've recognised a shift in political alignment, we don't seem to have changed our definition of the centre, and there's a danger that we therefore draw incorrect conclusions about who has the widest appeal.
For example, on the "metropolitan elite" versus "small town America" scale, Sanders could be seen as a centrist.
"Whoever ends up winning Iowa the WH2020 Dem nomination battle is now framed as between Bernie and Buttigieg"
What an extraordinary thread heading from OGM, seemingly totally ignoring the chances of Michael Bloomberg until he suddenly remembers him as an after thought, answering his own question as regards whether his huge financial investment into his campaign will make any difference ... "I don't know" is his equivocal reply. Well the betting market certainly has a much more positive view of Bloomberg's prospects where he is the second favourite with the Betfair Exchange to win the Democratic nomination with odds of 5.12, compared with Sanders on 2.65. Meanwhile Biden and Buttigieg languish in 3rd an 4th places both on odds of 7.5.
The best two candidates for the Democrats are Biden and Warren in my opinion.
I use 3 positive metrics and 1 negative when weighing primary candidates:
Who has popular policies? Sanders
Who is charismatic? No one.
Who can unite the party? Warren
Who can divide the party? Buttigieg, Sanders
Last time in 2016 Trump had 2 out of 3 positives and the 1 negative but Hillary scored nothing on all.
There is nothing divisive about Buttigieg.
Yes there is. Progressives like me see him as yet another middle of the road, centrist, corporate hack. Mayo Pete: rich and white.
I'd vote for him over Trump, but with no enthusiasm. My wife doesn't think she could - she says she might sit the general out if he's the nominee as we live in a state, New York, that won't go anything but Democrat.
It was that attitude that gave us Trump.
Otoh perhaps the middle of the road, centrist, corporate hacks gave us Trump.
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time.
He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin.
Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH!
Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time.
He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin.
Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH!
Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
So just because Alfred couldn’t cook, we should have no four star restaurants?
The best two candidates for the Democrats are Biden and Warren in my opinion.
I use 3 positive metrics and 1 negative when weighing primary candidates:
Who has popular policies? Sanders
Who is charismatic? No one.
Who can unite the party? Warren
Who can divide the party? Buttigieg, Sanders
Last time in 2016 Trump had 2 out of 3 positives and the 1 negative but Hillary scored nothing on all.
There is nothing divisive about Buttigieg.
Yes there is. Progressives like me see him as yet another middle of the road, centrist, corporate hack. Mayo Pete: rich and white.
I'd vote for him over Trump, but with no enthusiasm. My wife doesn't think she could - she says she might sit the general out if he's the nominee as we live in a state, New York, that won't go anything but Democrat.
It was that attitude that gave us Trump.
Trump has sort of grown on me.
When you see him you just got to think, he’s not serious he’s just taking the piss. And then he ain’t scary or can’t wind you up anymore. He don't really believe in anything, or care about anything. Unlike every other politician on earth he doesn’t really expect you to take him seriously. He’s a sort of nihilist disruptor. Like the Joker from a batman film.
He has this fawning fan base, but he doesn’t really care about a single one of them. Like a true nihilist comic book villain he could order any of his fans to just Leap into the nearest active volcano. “Don Says” and off they go like lemmings to fry on the lava.
Do we think that is mostly the impeachment thing falling flat, or the Iowa caucus mess up/result?
personally I think its a good time to top up on 'Any democrat' candidate to win
You may well have a point. Currently the best odds on a Democratic Party POTUS win are those on offer with the Betfair Exchange at 2.48 or 2.40 net of their commission.
"Whoever ends up winning Iowa the WH2020 Dem nomination battle is now framed as between Bernie and Buttigieg"
What an extraordinary thread heading from OGM, seemingly totally ignoring the chances of Michael Bloomberg until he suddenly remembers him as an after thought, answering his own question as regards whether his huge financial investment into his campaign will make any difference ... "I don't know" is his equivocal reply. Well the betting market certainly has a much more positive view of Bloomberg's prospects where he is the second favourite with the Betfair Exchange to win the Democratic nomination with odds of 5.12, compared with Sanders on 2.65. Meanwhile Biden and Buttigieg languish in 3rd an 4th places both on odds of 7.5.
The best two candidates for the Democrats are Biden and Warren in my opinion.
I use 3 positive metrics and 1 negative when weighing primary candidates:
Who has popular policies? Sanders
Who is charismatic? No one.
Who can unite the party? Warren
Who can divide the party? Buttigieg, Sanders
Last time in 2016 Trump had 2 out of 3 positives and the 1 negative but Hillary scored nothing on all.
There is nothing divisive about Buttigieg.
Yes there is. Progressives like me see him as yet another middle of the road, centrist, corporate hack. Mayo Pete: rich and white.
I'd vote for him over Trump, but with no enthusiasm. My wife doesn't think she could - she says she might sit the general out if he's the nominee as we live in a state, New York, that won't go anything but Democrat.
It was that attitude that gave us Trump.
Trump has sort of grown on me.... He’s a sort of nihilist disruptor. Like the Joker from a Batman film....
Wikipedia also says Richard III didn’t kill his nephews, that Josef Selmayr was wrongly convicted of war crimes and that it is likely the Ninth Legion was lost in Britain.
Yes, I will cite it myself (on here anyway) because it’s convenient, but only when I have checked its sources and found them trustworthy.
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time. He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin. Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH! Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
There are no ironclad rules of language.
And there’s nothing wrong with the influence of random blokes a few centuries back. Look how well we did with Shakespeare.
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time. He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin. Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH! Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
There are no ironclad rules of language.
And there’s nothing wrong with the influence of random blokes a few centuries back. Look how well we did with Shakespeare.
Shakespeare was rubbish. Couldn’t even spell his own name
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time. He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin. Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH! Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
There are no ironclad rules of language.
And there’s nothing wrong with the influence of random blokes a few centuries back. Look how well we did with Shakespeare.
Shakespeare was rubbish. Couldn’t even spell his own name
Yeah, but being erroneously pedantic is fun. You could say the same about ending a sentence with a preposition, but it's not an argument that anyone will listen to.
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time. He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin. Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH! Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
There are no ironclad rules of language.
And there’s nothing wrong with the influence of random blokes a few centuries back. Look how well we did with Shakespeare.
Shakespeare was rubbish. Couldn’t even spell his own name
Indeed, you don't spell Edward de Vere as 'Shakespeare'.
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time. He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin. Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH! Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
There are no ironclad rules of language.
Unless you're French.
As Dr Johnson wisely observed trying to fix a language is like trying to bind the sea in chains.
Yeah, but being erroneously pedantic is fun. You could say the same about ending a sentence with a preposition, but it's not an argument that anyone will listen to.
A preposition is always the wrong word to end a sentence with.
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time. He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin. Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH! Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
There are no ironclad rules of language.
And there’s nothing wrong with the influence of random blokes a few centuries back. Look how well we did with Shakespeare.
Quite.
Shakespeare used language, he didn't write whiny books saying how he thought other people should use language.
As Dr Johnson wisely observed trying to fix a language is like trying to bind the sea in chains.
The French ruined their language with all those silly symbols.
But you'll be all delighted to know that sometime in the next few weeks I'll be publishing a based on the thread on the Oxford comma and what it means for betting (on politics).
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time. He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin. Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH! Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
There are no ironclad rules of language.
And there’s nothing wrong with the influence of random blokes a few centuries back. Look how well we did with Shakespeare.
Quite.
Shakespeare used language, he didn't write whiny books saying how he thought other people should use language.
As @ydoethur points out, he left it to later generations to tidy up his mess.
Yeah, but being erroneously pedantic is fun. You could say the same about ending a sentence with a preposition, but it's not an argument that anyone will listen to.
A preposition is always the wrong word to end a sentence with.
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time. He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin. Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH! Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
Mate, there is no textual analysis of the English language that supports an ironclad usage of fewer over less.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
There are no ironclad rules of language.
And there’s nothing wrong with the influence of random blokes a few centuries back. Look how well we did with Shakespeare.
Shakespeare was rubbish. Couldn’t even spell his own name
Indeed, you don't spell Edward de Vere as 'Shakespeare'.
Yeah, but being erroneously pedantic is fun. You could say the same about ending a sentence with a preposition, but it's not an argument that anyone will listen to.
A preposition is always the wrong word to end a sentence with.
There are few rules I could give fewer fucks about.
Yeah, but being erroneously pedantic is fun. You could say the same about ending a sentence with a preposition, but it's not an argument that anyone will listen to.
A preposition is always the wrong word to end a sentence with.
There are few rules I could give fewer fucks about.
Yeah, but being erroneously pedantic is fun. You could say the same about ending a sentence with a preposition, but it's not an argument that anyone will listen to.
A preposition is always the wrong word to end a sentence with.
F*ck off.
I think you missed Sandpit's ironic sentence ending with a preposition!
But you'll be all delighted to know that sometime in the next few weeks I'll be publishing a based on the thread on the Oxford comma and what it means for betting (on politics).
Yeah, but being erroneously pedantic is fun. You could say the same about ending a sentence with a preposition, but it's not an argument that anyone will listen to.
A preposition is always the wrong word to end a sentence with.
There are few rules I could give fewer fucks about.
Yeah, but being erroneously pedantic is fun. You could say the same about ending a sentence with a preposition, but it's not an argument that anyone will listen to.
A preposition is always the wrong word to end a sentence with.
F*ck off.
I think you missed Sandpit's ironic sentence ending with a preposition!
I am going to do a rare thing, and admit I was wrong.
I thought Bloomberg had left it far too late in a crowded field and had a vanishingly small chance of the nomination, but I now see it. He reasoned Biden was grossly overrated and would fade fast, leaving a choice between flawed candidates. He'd be the knight in shining armour come Super Tuesday. He needed a bit of a run up with blanket ads, but could afford it.
It might well still not work, but it was much smarter than going early and getting lost in the crowded field. I think he's timed his run far better than I'd thought - it's all a bit Dame Kelly Holmes.
FWIW - I'm not expecting George Osborne to be editor of the Standard for much longer, he may have already edited his last edition.
He's getting a peerage and a job next week?
No, cost cutting measures in place by the owner and new investors.
It was already losing money when he took over in 2017 and the future doesn't look well for the dead trees press. With an economic slowdown coming advertisers cut their spend which doesn't help.
Emily thornberry has picked up another nomination tonight to take her to 14 CLPs - with her own CLP yet to nominate. Is it too late for her now?
Probably
Thornbury is at 13 CLPs out of 351 (numbers from Wikipedia) so looks like she will not get through to final round, unless there is a mini wave of sympathy votes
They'll all be stressed up to the eyeballs all weekend now.
You can understand why David Cameron considered Cummings a psychopath.
Yep, although sociopath might be more apt.
Cameron had his own version with Steve Hilton too. Great thinkers and good at ideas.
Terrible in Government, and with people.
Four years being chief adviser of Michael Gove turned Gove into the country's most unpopular politician, I reckon he'll do the same for Boris Johnson in half the time.
I am going to do a rare thing, and admit I was wrong.
I thought Bloomberg had left it far too late in a crowded field and had a vanishingly small chance of the nomination, but I now see it. He reasoned Biden was grossly overrated and would fade fast, leaving a choice between flawed candidates. He'd be the knight in shining armour come Super Tuesday. He needed a bit of a run up with blanket ads, but could afford it.
It might well still not work, but it was much smarter than going early and getting lost in the crowded field. I think he's timed his run far better than I'd thought - it's all a bit Dame Kelly Holmes.
That’s a fair comment, and I’ll also own to underestimating the possible electoral leverage half a billion dollars buys.
Emily thornberry has picked up another nomination tonight to take her to 14 CLPs - with her own CLP yet to nominate. Is it too late for her now?
Probably
Thornbury is at 13 CLPs out of 351 (numbers from Wikipedia) so looks like she will not get through to final round, unless there is a mini wave of sympathy votes
She now has 14 with her own CLP to nominate. Edit - She now has 15.
They'll all be stressed up to the eyeballs all weekend now.
You can understand why David Cameron considered Cummings a psychopath.
Yep, although sociopath might be more apt.
Cameron had his own version with Steve Hilton too. Great thinkers and good at ideas.
Terrible in Government, and with people.
Four years being chief adviser of Michael Gove turned Gove into the country's most unpopular politician, I reckon he'll do the same for Boris Johnson in half the time.
And his flagship policy of removing schools from the hands of unelected bureaucrats saw schools being removed from the control of local education authorities and instead centrally controlled from Whitehall.
FWIW - I'm not expecting George Osborne to be editor of the Standard for much longer, he may have already edited his last edition.
He's getting a peerage and a job next week?
No, cost cutting measures in place by the owner and new investors.
It was already losing money when he took over in 2017 and the future doesn't look well for the dead trees press. With an economic slowdown coming advertisers cut their spend which doesn't help.
FWIW - I'm not expecting George Osborne to be editor of the Standard for much longer, he may have already edited his last edition.
He's getting a peerage and a job next week?
No, cost cutting measures in place by the owner and new investors.
It was already losing money when he took over in 2017 and the future doesn't look well for the dead trees press. With an economic slowdown coming advertisers cut their spend which doesn't help.
Surely it still needs an editor?
An editor willing to make these cuts really isn't an editor.
I think the Standard is about to focus on sports and celebrities.
I am going to do a rare thing, and admit I was wrong.
I thought Bloomberg had left it far too late in a crowded field and had a vanishingly small chance of the nomination, but I now see it. He reasoned Biden was grossly overrated and would fade fast, leaving a choice between flawed candidates. He'd be the knight in shining armour come Super Tuesday. He needed a bit of a run up with blanket ads, but could afford it.
It might well still not work, but it was much smarter than going early and getting lost in the crowded field. I think he's timed his run far better than I'd thought - it's all a bit Dame Kelly Holmes.
It's definitely possible. If all we care about is that Trump loses, which is pretty much how I feel, it's what we should hope for. But yet....
Yeah, it's kind of worrying isn't it? He used to write such thoughtful books and ideas.
Politics really worries me sometimes. You find a hero who helps sharpen and define what you really think, and inspires you.
And then, they turn into a nutter, and you lose respect for them, and you're not sure what happened.
I don't think people change that much when it comes to politics, but at a point in time the shine comes off, or they reveal a side of themselves that was always hidden. Of course it does go in the opposite direction as well, sometimes you find more depth, more thoughtfulness, more compassion, and the like in a person than you gave them credit for. Michael Portillo is perhaps an example of that.
I am going to do a rare thing, and admit I was wrong.
I thought Bloomberg had left it far too late in a crowded field and had a vanishingly small chance of the nomination, but I now see it. He reasoned Biden was grossly overrated and would fade fast, leaving a choice between flawed candidates. He'd be the knight in shining armour come Super Tuesday. He needed a bit of a run up with blanket ads, but could afford it.
It might well still not work, but it was much smarter than going early and getting lost in the crowded field. I think he's timed his run far better than I'd thought - it's all a bit Dame Kelly Holmes.
That’s a fair comment, and I’ll also own to underestimating the possible electoral leverage half a billion dollars buys.
Just wait for Zuckerberg 2024. All the money in the world and an unlimited, unregulated advertising budget!
2017: Zuckerberg said he no longer considers himself an atheist and that religion is “very important”. I mean get your bets in now.
Yeah, but being erroneously pedantic is fun. You could say the same about ending a sentence with a preposition, but it's not an argument that anyone will listen to.
A preposition is always the wrong word to end a sentence with.
It is 'errant pedantry up with which I will not put'. Churchill.
They'll all be stressed up to the eyeballs all weekend now.
You can understand why David Cameron considered Cummings a psychopath.
Dave was against AV!
Allowing people into the UK parliament who did not finish first in their constituency was described by David Cameron as creating a "Parliament full of second-choices who no one really wanted but didn't really object to either." - David Cameron: "Why keeping first past the post is vital for democracy." Daily Telegraph. 30 Apr 2011
Yeah, it's kind of worrying isn't it? He used to write such thoughtful books and ideas.
Politics really worries me sometimes. You find a hero who helps sharpen and define what you really think, and inspires you.
And then, they turn into a nutter, and you lose respect for them, and you're not sure what happened.
I don't think people change that much when it comes to politics, but at a point in time the shine comes off, or they reveal a side of themselves that was always hidden. Of course it does go in the opposite direction as well, sometimes you find more depth, more thoughtfulness, more compassion, and the like in a person than you gave them credit for. Michael Portillo is perhaps an example of that.
That's perhaps true, although on politics Portillo can revert a bit when he's on programmes like This Week.
FWIW - I'm not expecting George Osborne to be editor of the Standard for much longer, he may have already edited his last edition.
He's getting a peerage and a job next week?
No, cost cutting measures in place by the owner and new investors.
It was already losing money when he took over in 2017 and the future doesn't look well for the dead trees press. With an economic slowdown coming advertisers cut their spend which doesn't help.
Surely it still needs an editor?
An editor willing to make these cuts really isn't an editor.
I think the Standard is about to focus on sports and celebrities.
As Dr Johnson wisely observed trying to fix a language is like trying to bind the sea in chains.
The French ruined their language with all those silly symbols.
But you'll be all delighted to know that sometime in the next few weeks I'll be publishing a based on the thread on the Oxford comma and what it means for betting (on politics).
I look forward to TSE's delicious mix of pizza toppings, Christmas films, and betting recommendations.
Remainers made a massive, massive error in early 2019 by not coalescing around a soft Brexit alternative in the indicative votes. They gambled recklessly on stopping it altogether, and lost.
As I remainer myself, I was absolutely livid at the time and still am. The high road of compromise was there, and they were as bad as the hard Brexiteers in eschewing it.
They screwed up plus Johnson played a political blinder from start to finish. And is more popular than people make out. Certainly more popular than he ought to be. He's like "Cats" in this respect.
And you might be pissed off but spare a thought for LABOUR Remainers like me. Double whammy. Brexit PLUS Tory landslide government. Jesus.
I don’t see Pete beating Trump. I don’t see his vague centrist waffle picking up the key state switchers needed.
I don’t see Trump’s nasty aggressive politics of lies and disruption remaining popular for ever, but it’s currently wildly popular all over the world, and Trump is safe for another four years.
Trump got less votes than Clinton. By definition he was less popular than one of the worst campaigning candidates of all time.
He got less votes than Romney in Wisconsin.
Trump won on the most ridiculously razor thin of margins.
AAAAAARGGH!
Write out one hundred times:
He got FEWER votes than Clinton.
I will never understand why anyone, let alone a teacher of all people, would care about a rule which is hardly even a rule and doesn't even matter in such a context. It's time to let it go Doctor, the language will not be contrained any further, fight a battle that can be won!
Lol, so he printed a photo of his boss, on the front page, that said boss asked to be changed - and instead of saying 'yes, Sir' went off on a rant to his boss about the independence and integrity of his own role within the organisation.
Are they saying the advice from the NCSC is wrong?
The US government is now floating the idea of aquiring a controlling interest in Nokia and Ericsson, so it should be abundantly clear to even our dimmest MPs that we should not trust any supplier. The only way out of this mess is open standards and systems and a much greater diversity of suppliers. Simply banning Huawei is going to leave us even more dependent on companies that do not deserve our trust either.
Yeah, it's kind of worrying isn't it? He used to write such thoughtful books and ideas.
Politics really worries me sometimes. You find a hero who helps sharpen and define what you really think, and inspires you.
And then, they turn into a nutter, and you lose respect for them, and you're not sure what happened.
I don't think people change that much when it comes to politics, but at a point in time the shine comes off, or they reveal a side of themselves that was always hidden. Of course it does go in the opposite direction as well, sometimes you find more depth, more thoughtfulness, more compassion, and the like in a person than you gave them credit for. Michael Portillo is perhaps an example of that.
Yeah, it's kind of worrying isn't it? He used to write such thoughtful books and ideas.
Politics really worries me sometimes. You find a hero who helps sharpen and define what you really think, and inspires you.
And then, they turn into a nutter, and you lose respect for them, and you're not sure what happened.
I don't think people change that much when it comes to politics, but at a point in time the shine comes off, or they reveal a side of themselves that was always hidden. Of course it does go in the opposite direction as well, sometimes you find more depth, more thoughtfulness, more compassion, and the like in a person than you gave them credit for. Michael Portillo is perhaps an example of that.
That's perhaps true, although on politics Portillo can revert a bit when he's on programmes like This Week.
He’s on QT in a fortnight #MakeThursdayNightsGreatAgain
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https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/1225882546183049216
https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/1225883621397012480
Although we've recognised a shift in political alignment, we don't seem to have changed our definition of the centre, and there's a danger that we therefore draw incorrect conclusions about who has the widest appeal.
For example, on the "metropolitan elite" versus "small town America" scale, Sanders could be seen as a centrist.
There are two reasons for this:
A.) The correct formulation is, ‘it’s £100 cheaper next door;’
B.) I’m not married.
Edit - bloody sunglasses!
https://twitter.com/PA/status/1225880818712707073
The word cheaper could also work.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441
And if we get to listen to Radiohead too, sign me up!
What an extraordinary thread heading from OGM, seemingly totally ignoring the chances of Michael Bloomberg until he suddenly remembers him as an after thought, answering his own question as regards whether his huge financial investment into his campaign will make any difference ... "I don't know" is his equivocal reply.
Well the betting market certainly has a much more positive view of Bloomberg's prospects where he is the second favourite with the Betfair Exchange to win the Democratic nomination with odds of 5.12, compared with Sanders on 2.65. Meanwhile Biden and Buttigieg languish in 3rd an 4th places both on odds of 7.5.
It is an entirely made up notion by a random bloke who wrote a style guide in the late 1700s. If Alfred the Great can use less then I can as well.
personally I think its a good time to top up on 'Any democrat' candidate to win
When you see him you just got to think, he’s not serious he’s just taking the piss. And then he ain’t scary or can’t wind you up anymore. He don't really believe in anything, or care about anything. Unlike every other politician on earth he doesn’t really expect you to take him seriously. He’s a sort of nihilist disruptor. Like the Joker from a batman film.
He has this fawning fan base, but he doesn’t really care about a single one of them. Like a true nihilist comic book villain he could order any of his fans to just Leap into the nearest active volcano. “Don Says” and off they go like lemmings to fry on the lava.
That’s Trump.
Less vs fewer and the completely artificial rule about using one or the other
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fewer_versus_less
Yes, I will cite it myself (on here anyway) because it’s convenient, but only when I have checked its sources and found them trustworthy.
And there’s nothing wrong with the influence of random blokes a few centuries back. Look how well we did with Shakespeare.
As Dr Johnson wisely observed trying to fix a language is like trying to bind the sea in chains.
Shakespeare used language, he didn't write whiny books saying how he thought other people should use language.
But you'll be all delighted to know that sometime in the next few weeks I'll be publishing a based on the thread on the Oxford comma and what it means for betting (on politics).
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1225866655701622784?s=19
They'll all be stressed up to the eyeballs all weekend now.
Cameron had his own version with Steve Hilton too. Great thinkers and good at ideas.
Terrible in Government, and with people.
I thought Bloomberg had left it far too late in a crowded field and had a vanishingly small chance of the nomination, but I now see it. He reasoned Biden was grossly overrated and would fade fast, leaving a choice between flawed candidates. He'd be the knight in shining armour come Super Tuesday. He needed a bit of a run up with blanket ads, but could afford it.
It might well still not work, but it was much smarter than going early and getting lost in the crowded field. I think he's timed his run far better than I'd thought - it's all a bit Dame Kelly Holmes.
It was already losing money when he took over in 2017 and the future doesn't look well for the dead trees press. With an economic slowdown coming advertisers cut their spend which doesn't help.
Edit - She now has 15.
https://twitter.com/ftukpolitics/status/1225902747792351233
i.e. A total failure.
Politics really worries me sometimes. You find a hero who helps sharpen and define what you really think, and inspires you.
And then, they turn into a nutter, and you lose respect for them, and you're not sure what happened.
I think the Standard is about to focus on sports and celebrities.
Just wait for Zuckerberg 2024. All the money in the world and an unlimited, unregulated advertising budget!
2017: Zuckerberg said he no longer considers himself an atheist and that religion is “very important”. I mean get your bets in now.
Allowing people into the UK parliament who did not finish first in their constituency was described by David Cameron as creating a "Parliament full of second-choices who no one really wanted but didn't really object to either."
- David Cameron: "Why keeping first past the post is vital for democracy." Daily Telegraph. 30 Apr 2011
https://twitter.com/AVMikhailova/status/1225901006074122243
Okay then, one P45 in the post.
Are they saying the advice from the NCSC is wrong?
The US government is now floating the idea of aquiring a controlling interest in Nokia and Ericsson, so it should be abundantly clear to even our dimmest MPs that we should not trust any supplier. The only way out of this mess is open standards and systems and a much greater diversity of suppliers. Simply banning Huawei is going to leave us even more dependent on companies that do not deserve our trust either.
Business Secretary says equality should be 'the absolute norm' in all workplaces
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/07/andrea-leadsom-warns-against-male-dominated-workplaces-boris/