We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Makes up for the fact I laid Pete for the Nom down to zero a little while ago.
Well he won't be the nominee even if he wins Iowa because minorities hate him. It's all about who else won't be the nominee.
Yet he was Mayor of a majority African American City
South Bend is majority African American?
"According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of South Bend was: White: 63.15% Black or African American: 26.40% Two or more races: 4.25%Oct 29, 2019"
Makes up for the fact I laid Pete for the Nom down to zero a little while ago.
Well he won't be the nominee even if he wins Iowa because minorities hate him. It's all about who else won't be the nominee.
Yet he was Mayor of a majority African American City
South Bend is majority African American?
"According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of South Bend was: White: 63.15% Black or African American: 26.40% Two or more races: 4.25%Oct 29, 2019"
Joe Kennedy is probably having mixed emotions tonight.
He shouldn't, Sanders is now likely to be the eventual nominee after Biden's collapse (maybe with Buttigieg as VP nominee), then Trump is likely to be re elected. If Joe Kennedy wins the Massachusetts Senate race in November he will be ideally placed to follow in his great uncle's footsteps (and where his grandfather just missed out on following his assassination) in 2024
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Looking from the first results to the first realignment, Biden LOST 2k votes. Translation, he wasn't viable in many precincts. He was never going to win Iowa, but this is a bad result for him. This is CNN on 62% reporting.
Considering he was a popular veep for 8 years, and has had the state virtually to himself for 2 weeks, this is not good at all.
His firewall of SC is based on his appeal to the main democratic support group - African Americans.
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
Woodbury is massively Sanders according to CNN i think
Looking from the first results to the first realignment, Biden LOST 2k votes. Translation, he wasn't viable in many precincts. He was never going to win Iowa, but this is a bad result for him. This is CNN on 62% reporting.
Considering he was a popular veep for 8 years, and has had the state virtually to himself for 2 weeks, this is not good at all.
His firewall of SC is based on his appeal to the main democratic support group - African Americans.
And if you look at the popular vote, he got around a quarter of the ‘moderate’ total. That is miserable.
Looking from the first results to the first realignment, Biden LOST 2k votes. Translation, he wasn't viable in many precincts. He was never going to win Iowa, but this is a bad result for him. This is CNN on 62% reporting.
Considering he was a popular veep for 8 years, and has had the state virtually to himself for 2 weeks, this is not good at all.
His firewall of SC is based on his appeal to the main democratic support group - African Americans.
Maybe folks are just coming to the Mike conclusion. Too old. End of.
Edit: My mother has been saying this for months and she is roughly the same age.
Makes up for the fact I laid Pete for the Nom down to zero a little while ago.
Well he won't be the nominee even if he wins Iowa because minorities hate him. It's all about who else won't be the nominee.
Yet he was Mayor of a majority African American City
South Bend is majority African American?
"According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of South Bend was: White: 63.15% Black or African American: 26.40% Two or more races: 4.25%Oct 29, 2019"
So not majority, but significant AA minority.
If Pete got all of the white vote (he didn't!) Then he also got more than 50% of the AA and other vote, presuming turnout the same across both groups.
Looking from the first results to the first realignment, Biden LOST 2k votes. Translation, he wasn't viable in many precincts. He was never going to win Iowa, but this is a bad result for him. This is CNN on 62% reporting.
Considering he was a popular veep for 8 years, and has had the state virtually to himself for 2 weeks, this is not good at all.
His firewall of SC is based on his appeal to the main democratic support group - African Americans.
But his appeal to African Americans is his electabilty to white Americans.
Don't understand how this result has resulted in my girl The Real Deal Lizzle Shizzle lengthening for the nomination.
No movement is what I would have expected.
Because there’s no real path. She doesn’t have the money, and I don’t think this result is quite good enough to raise sufficient to compete. It’s not really fair, but politics isn’t.
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
You are looking at another number, I'm looking at the vote you are looking at State Delegates. My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
You are looking at another number, I'm looking at the vote you are looking at State Delegates. My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
You are looking at another number, I'm looking at the vote you are looking at State Delegates. My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
You are looking at another number, I'm looking at the vote you are looking at State Delegates. My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
We so need more results.
After last night, I’m not holding my breath.
Is this delay something to do with state of the union speech?
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
You are looking at another number, I'm looking at the vote you are looking at State Delegates. My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
We so need more results.
Yes, it's too close too call on State Delegates but Sanders has definitely won the most Votes.
We just don't know if an expading Sanders lead with Votes will translate to State Delegates.
This evening we have the State of the Union, tomorrow we have the impeachment vote in the Senate.
Together with the descent into farce of Iowa, augmented by the revelation that the infamous app was written by a company set up by Hillary Clinton staffers, and the fact that we are now "On to New Hampshire", severely diminishes any 'bounce' - not to mention the credibility - and momentum accruing to the 'winner' of Iowa.
It also takes the focus off Biden's stumbling to the finish line.
Makes up for the fact I laid Pete for the Nom down to zero a little while ago.
Well he won't be the nominee even if he wins Iowa because minorities hate him. It's all about who else won't be the nominee.
Yet he was Mayor of a majority African American City
South Bend is majority African American?
"According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of South Bend was: White: 63.15% Black or African American: 26.40% Two or more races: 4.25%Oct 29, 2019"
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
You are looking at another number, I'm looking at the vote you are looking at State Delegates. My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
We so need more results.
Yes, it's too close too call on State Delegates but Sanders has definitely won the most Votes.
We just don't know if an expading Sanders lead with Votes will translate to State Delegates.
Possibly, but Pete has dealt a major blow to his rival, while Sanders has not.
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg, but Bloomberg's old age makes him more respectable.
You can't win the Democratic Nomination with 99% of African Am. not voting for you.
Makes up for the fact I laid Pete for the Nom down to zero a little while ago.
Well he won't be the nominee even if he wins Iowa because minorities hate him. It's all about who else won't be the nominee.
Yet he was Mayor of a majority African American City
South Bend is majority African American?
"According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of South Bend was: White: 63.15% Black or African American: 26.40% Two or more races: 4.25%Oct 29, 2019"
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg, but Bloomberg's old age makes him more respectable.
You can't win the Democratic Nomination with 99% of African Am. not voting for you.
I reckon he is going to pick up plenty of the AA vote, but feel free to bet against.
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
You are looking at another number, I'm looking at the vote you are looking at State Delegates. My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
We so need more results.
Yes, it's too close too call on State Delegates but Sanders has definitely won the most Votes.
We just don't know if an expading Sanders lead with Votes will translate to State Delegates.
Possibly, but Pete has dealt a major blow to his rival, while Sanders has not.
It's going to be a messy contested convention with lots of screaming by everyone and a Trump re-election, unless Nevada goes for Sanders or Buttigieg wins S.Carolina.
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
By eating KFC off fine bone China with gold cutlery on his private jet.....
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump probably isn’t a millionaire. And, er, talk about insulting the working class!
Not the point I know, but while I'm not generally opposed to evolution of language so that, for instance, gerrymandering can refer to electoral practices beyond the redrawing of boundaries for partisan advantage, the use of it there is really stretching it.
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
You are looking at another number, I'm looking at the vote you are looking at State Delegates. My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
We so need more results.
Yes, it's too close too call on State Delegates but Sanders has definitely won the most Votes.
We just don't know if an expading Sanders lead with Votes will translate to State Delegates.
Possibly, but Pete has dealt a major blow to his rival, while Sanders has not.
If Sanders wins New Hampshire next week he will have and if Biden then wins South Carolina that is the ideal route for him, having knocked out Warren with Buttigieg and Biden splitting the centrist vote
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump won the working class vote because the Democrats abandoned it, and because they felt he understood and listened to them. Nobody thinks Trump is working class!
Not the point I know, but while I'm not generally opposed to evolution of language so that, for instance, gerrymandering can refer to electoral practices beyond the redrawing of boundaries for partisan advantage, the use of it there is really stretching it.
“Manipulating” would have been a better choice - they were probably trying to demonstrate the breadth of their vocabulary!
It would also be fair to say that the young left has been way more focused on attacking the frontrunner Biden, as I infer from the negative tone the Guardian takes.
Not the point I know, but while I'm not generally opposed to evolution of language so that, for instance, gerrymandering can refer to electoral practices beyond the redrawing of boundaries for partisan advantage, the use of it there is really stretching it.
Given it is the tweet of an idiot, garbled terminology is to be expected.
Rumors are surfacing that Trump may announce the Medal of Freedom for Rush Limbaugh this evening.
Limbaugh announced the other day that he has lung cancer. He attracts 30 million listeners for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week, and has been doing so for over 30 years..
Obviously BUTTIGIEG will choose someone like Abrams as VP if he has to. It is a bit like the people who worried whether Trump would win Christians because of his pornocratic lifestyle. Of course he did because they just want stuff, not a leader.
Obviously BUTTIGIEG will choose someone like Abrams as VP if he has to. It is a bit like the people who worried whether Trump would win Christians because of his pornocratic lifestyle. Of course he did because they just want stuff, not a leader.
Buttigieg-Harris for the shortest ticket in US history?
Booker would be good but would make Pete look like a child everywhere.
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump won the working class vote because the Democrats abandoned it, and because they felt he understood and listened to them. Nobody thinks Trump is working class!
Trump behaves how a poor person expects a millionaire would behave (stretch limo's, gold chandelier etc).
Rumors are surfacing that Trump may announce the Medal of Freedom for Rush Limbaugh this evening.
Limbaugh announced the other day that he has lung cancer. He attracts 30 million listeners for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week, and has been doing so for over 30 years..
Sad to hear anyone is terminally ill, but after decades of shilling for big tobacco, it is worth remembering that no amount of opinion and invective changes the facts.
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump won the working class vote because the Democrats abandoned it, and because they felt he understood and listened to them. Nobody thinks Trump is working class!
Trump behaves how a poor person expects a millionaire would behave (stretch limo's, gold chandelier etc).
In my younger days growing up in Yorkshire, the phrase would be "fur coat, no knickers".
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump won the working class vote because the Democrats abandoned it, and because they felt he understood and listened to them. Nobody thinks Trump is working class!
Agree Tim. Slight nuance I hear is that Trump identified the issues they face, even if he has no answers, but that's still more than the Democrats do for them
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump won the working class vote because the Democrats abandoned it, and because they felt he understood and listened to them. Nobody thinks Trump is working class!
Trump won the white skilled working class and lower middle class mainly, voters earning under $50 000 a year voted for Hillary
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump won the working class vote because the Democrats abandoned it, and because they felt he understood and listened to them. Nobody thinks Trump is working class!
Trump behaves how a poor person expects a millionaire would behave (stretch limo's, gold chandelier etc).
In my younger days growing up in Yorkshire, the phrase would be "fur coat, no knickers".
Is that the same as the Texan "All hat no trousers"?
Rumors are surfacing that Trump may announce the Medal of Freedom for Rush Limbaugh this evening.
Limbaugh announced the other day that he has lung cancer. He attracts 30 million listeners for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week, and has been doing so for over 30 years..
Sad to hear anyone is terminally ill, but after decades of shilling for big tobacco, it is worth remembering that no amount of opinion and invective changes the facts.
?? I merely recited facts - no opinion, no invective. I have never been a smoker. Please don't project your bias onto me.
We have precinct data. Half of the vote is outstanding in Des Moine.
Buttigieg is only two points behind Bernie in Des Moines. If that were true for all the remaining precincts (and there are a lot of rural precincts still to come), Buttigieg would still will by a percent.
People betting on Sanders here are idiots. The real odds should be 10 or 12 to 1.
Most of the oustanding vote is in Urban Sanders Counties:
Polk Woodbury Linn Muscatine Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
Linn is 71% reported Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
You are looking at another number, I'm looking at the vote you are looking at State Delegates. My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
We so need more results.
Indeed. We have results that are incomplete and unrepresentative and we are jumping to conclusions.
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump won the working class vote because the Democrats abandoned it, and because they felt he understood and listened to them. Nobody thinks Trump is working class!
Trump behaves how a poor person expects a millionaire would behave (stretch limo's, gold chandelier etc).
In my younger days growing up in Yorkshire, the phrase would be "fur coat, no knickers".
Is that the same as the Texan "All hat no trousers"?
Rumors are surfacing that Trump may announce the Medal of Freedom for Rush Limbaugh this evening.
Limbaugh announced the other day that he has lung cancer. He attracts 30 million listeners for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week, and has been doing so for over 30 years..
Sad to hear anyone is terminally ill, but after decades of shilling for big tobacco, it is worth remembering that no amount of opinion and invective changes the facts.
?? I merely recited facts - no opinion, no invective. I have never been a smoker. Please don't project your bias onto me.
I think you’ve misread Foxy - the comments were directed at Limbaugh, not you.
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump won the working class vote because the Democrats abandoned it, and because they felt he understood and listened to them. Nobody thinks Trump is working class!
Trump behaves how a poor person expects a millionaire would behave (stretch limo's, gold chandelier etc).
In my younger days growing up in Yorkshire, the phrase would be "fur coat, no knickers".
Yes, I've heard the same phrase from people in Nottingham referring to residents in West Bridgford.
Bit of a collapse for Sanders since 2016. In that light, he is lucky that it was just him and Warren on the left side of politics, because a third candidate might have really upset the internal ordering.
Dem elite to move onto Pete as the stop Bernie candidate?
We are dealing with a PR system here.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
What percentage of the South Bend AA population voted for Pete by your calculation?
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
I know that in all opinion polls Buttigieg is getting close to 0% among African Am.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg...
Odd, as Buttigieg is the only leading candidate who is not at least a millionaire.
Perception is everything. Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
Trump won the working class vote because the Democrats abandoned it, and because they felt he understood and listened to them. Nobody thinks Trump is working class!
Trump behaves how a poor person expects a millionaire would behave (stretch limo's, gold chandelier etc).
In my younger days growing up in Yorkshire, the phrase would be "fur coat, no knickers".
Yes, I've heard the same phrase from people in Nottingham referring to residents in West Bridgford.
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Polk
Woodbury
Linn
Muscatine
Dubuque
I will grant you that the Sanders lead in all these counties is not large, but he could expand his lead by 1000 votes.
2. Sanders is only 2% ahead of Buttigieg in Des Moines
Must be mighty relieved tonight.
No movement is what I would have expected.
And the saussage making of State Delegates is a wrench.
Sanders may expand his lead by 1000 votes but we don't know if that will translate into State Delegates.
Woodbury is 66%
Dubuque has Buttigieg leading Sanders comfortably
And Linn is pretty small
Shocking news emerging from Anfield, in the post match drugs test several of the Liverpool players have tested positive for calpol.
Considering he was a popular veep for 8 years, and has had the state virtually to himself for 2 weeks, this is not good at all.
His firewall of SC is based on his appeal to the main democratic support group - African Americans.
That is miserable.
Edit: My mother has been saying this for months and she is roughly the same age.
Or as Paddy Power put it, a team with three pubes between them.
It is the hometown of Radar O'Reilly.
Iowa was really her best chance, I think ?
My argument is that if Sanders vote lead expands he will be in a very good chance of overtaking Buttigieg in State Delegates.
And look at Jefferson county, only 50% Sanders has a 330 vote lead.
Unless those Dem Metropolitan elites are as devilishly as common in provincial areas as they are in Britain.
Until he gets above 10% with African Am. Buttigieg will not be the nominee.
The African Am. vote by itself is not large enough for someone to win on it's own but large enough to prevent someone winning.
Likewise the establishment vote on it's own is not enough.
https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/1224828505558540288?s=19
Bloomberg now 2nd fav for Dem nomination.
https://twitter.com/californalovers/status/1224821932987731969
Why do you think Pete is so much more unliked by AAs than the other contenders? I don't think that he is.
Still better than Crazy.
We just don't know if an expading Sanders lead with Votes will translate to State Delegates.
Together with the descent into farce of Iowa, augmented by the revelation that the infamous app was written by a company set up by Hillary Clinton staffers, and the fact that we are now "On to New Hampshire", severely diminishes any 'bounce' - not to mention the credibility - and momentum accruing to the 'winner' of Iowa.
It also takes the focus off Biden's stumbling to the finish line.
I've just got here, but I'll get my coat anyway.
And it has been well documented why he is not liked, he is perceived by minorities as a Mayor who had a heavy hand against minorities, and also the perception that he is a young rich white snob.
Bloomberg has also got a similar issue to Buttigieg, but Bloomberg's old age makes him more respectable.
You can't win the Democratic Nomination with 99% of African Am. not voting for you.
Good results for my book but who is backing Bloomberg ?
Yes, it's a joke at the expense of the under 15s who played tonight.
I hope.
Sanders is a millionaire but he doesn't talk or behave like one in public.
That how Trump won the working class vote, by talking and behaving like a working class man.
https://twitter.com/kevverage/status/1224831993675993089?s=21
https://twitter.com/asteadwesley/status/1224837018305339392?s=21
Limbaugh announced the other day that he has lung cancer. He attracts 30 million listeners for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week, and has been doing so for over 30 years..
Booker would be good but would make Pete look like a child everywhere.