Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
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There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
About 70% of the catch goes to the EU on the figures I saw. Bear in mind UK fish exports also include coastal fishing of shellfish and processed and farmed fish, collectively worth more than deep sea caught fish and the EU can and will effectively shut down the UK industry if there's no agreement.
I actually think Varadakar is off message here. There will be no trade of financial services for fish. Financial Services are reserved in the EU slides as "unilateral EU alignment" and they don't need to give it up.
It is mainly shellfish exported to the EU, haddock etc is eaten here.
I doubt the UK will ban all EU fishing in UK waters but as Varadkar states if the UK wants to increase the share of UK fishing fleets in UK waters that will mean a reduction of UK financial services presence in EU financial markets especially as Boris has made clear there will be no more full alignment with EU regulations
Boris making something “clear” is meaningless.
He keeps making clear there will be no customs border in the Irish Sea and that’s complete nonsense.
What a complete twat. I really do wonder what has happened to the once great Conservative Party. It has been taken over by morons that should be more at home in the BNP. They are too lacking in self awareness to realise how insanely thick they look.
Childish attitude by some of the ERG extremes. Personally I drink Australian, Kiwi, or Chile wines but that is not some anti EU plot, I just prefer them
Many of which are perfectly fine, some excellent. To cut oneself off from French wine or food is self harm, and is culturally cretinous equivalent to refusing to listen to continental composers . Actually, very similar to Brexit.
Not if you do not like French food or wine.
If you don't like French wine you either haven't sampled the right ones or you don't like wine at all. The same applies to French food. I accept that it is subjective to a small extent.
I do like some French food but as I said my wine drinking, which is very modest, prefers Aus and Kiwi wines probably as I was introduced to them by my eldest son while he lived in Christchurch
But to be fair, it is subjective to most people but of course you have devotees on both the extremes of the argument who continue to act like children
Saying I don't like French wine is akin to saying I don't like American films.
I am neutral on French wine but never watch American films
What an absolutely bizarre policy.
Why. And it is not a policy - I watch few if any films anyway, just the violence in so many turns me off
It's bizarre because 'american films' is not a genre definable by one element that is objected to. As with lots of things, adding 'most' or 'many' would make a bizarre generalisation much more reasonable, eg I don't watch most american films.
It'd be like saying I never listen to any music because some rap songs contain the n word.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
.
There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
About 70% of the catch goes to the EU on the figures I saw. Bear in mind UK fish exports also include coastal fishing of shellfish and processed and farmed fish, collectively worth more than deep sea caught fish and the EU can and will effectively shut down the UK industry if there's no agreement.
I actually think Varadakar is off message here. There will be no trade of financial services for fish. Financial Services are reserved in the EU slides as "unilateral EU alignment" and they don't need to give it up.
It is mainly shellfish exported to the EU, haddock etc is eaten here.
I doubt the UK will ban all EU fishing in UK waters but as Varadkar states if the UK wants to increase the share of UK fishing fleets in UK waters that will mean a reduction of UK financial services presence in EU financial markets especially as Boris has made clear there will be no more full alignment with EU regulations
The test would be us being within the common fishing policy or not. There is a claim that spanish trawlers come and rake the sea of fish ignoring all rules in knowledge that there are no consequences to doing whatever they so wish.
of course this might be baseless.. I suspect not though. When people become aware they can get away with something they will behave without any regard to the law/rules.
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
Within the UK, the ranking of: • England did not change, remaining a little above mid-table (i.e second quartile); • Scotland fell into the third quartile of countries, due to a decline in its education and income performances, the latter associated with the decline in North Sea related activity. Despite this, Scotland’s very poor life expectancy performance remains its weakest area of performance; • Wales and Northern Ireland both fell into the bottom quartile of countries, principally due to poor GDP performances. - The relatively poor Scottish performance, in terms of education and health, suggests that changes may be needed to the, still young, devolved political system. Such changes should involve strengthening the challenge and scrutiny roles both within and out-with the Parliament. - Looking across the UK as a whole, the results highlight the fact that greater political devolution alone does not easily lead to an improving performance in key areas of well- being. In fact, unless proper supporting bodies are also cultivated, it can lead to a weakening in some important aspects of policy development.
Scotland's areas of decline within its control are both fully devolved - Education and Health. I'm not sure Westminster can be blamed for the price of oil....
Thanks for confirming my point.
That Scotland is failing on devolved issues.....whose fault's that then?
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
This was a game. Insert an amendment on emotional issue. Get someone who has good back story. Pure naked politics.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Within the UK, the ranking of: • England did not change, remaining a little above mid-table (i.e second quartile); • Scotland fell into the third quartile of countries, due to a decline in its education and income performances, the latter associated with the decline in North Sea related activity. Despite this, Scotland’s very poor life expectancy performance remains its weakest area of performance; • Wales and Northern Ireland both fell into the bottom quartile of countries, principally due to poor GDP performances. - The relatively poor Scottish performance, in terms of education and health, suggests that changes may be needed to the, still young, devolved political system. Such changes should involve strengthening the challenge and scrutiny roles both within and out-with the Parliament. - Looking across the UK as a whole, the results highlight the fact that greater political devolution alone does not easily lead to an improving performance in key areas of well- being. In fact, unless proper supporting bodies are also cultivated, it can lead to a weakening in some important aspects of policy development.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
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There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
About 70% of the catch goes to the EU on the figures I saw. Bear in mind UK fish exports also include coastal fishing of shellfish and processed and farmed fish, collectively worth more than deep sea caught fish and the EU can and will effectively shut down the UK industry if there's no agreement.
I actually think Varadakar is off message here. There will be no trade of financial services for fish. Financial Services are reserved in the EU slides as "unilateral EU alignment" and they don't need to give it up.
It is mainly shellfish exported to the EU, haddock etc is eaten here.
I doubt the UK will ban all EU fishing in UK waters but as Varadkar states if the UK wants to increase the share of UK fishing fleets in UK waters that will mean a reduction of UK financial services presence in EU financial markets especially as Boris has made clear there will be no more full alignment with EU regulations
Diddums. Financial services is one of the few industries in the UK that can totally dust themselves off from even the hardest of Brexits.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
.
There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
Will the fish be asked to show their passports before making the ultimate sacrifice?
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
I think there's a haggle to be had in fishing where access ends up slightly less than now. This then gets highlighted as a UK "win", along with rhetoric around UK being an independent coastal state with control of its waters.
It's in the the interest of neither side to allow fishing to block a deal.
What a complete twat. I really do wonder what has happened to the once great Conservative Party. It has been taken over by morons that should be more at home in the BNP. They are too lacking in self awareness to realise how insanely thick they look.
Childish attitude by some of the ERG extremes. Personally I drink Australian, Kiwi, or Chile wines but that is not some anti EU plot, I just prefer them
Many of which are perfectly fine, some excellent. To cut oneself off from French wine or food is self harm, and is culturally cretinous equivalent to refusing to listen to continental composers . Actually, very similar to Brexit.
Not if you do not like French food or wine.
If you don't like French wine you either haven't sampled the right ones or you don't like wine at all. The same applies to French food. I accept that it is subjective to a small extent.
I do like some French food but as I said my wine drinking, which is very modest, prefers Aus and Kiwi wines probably as I was introduced to them by my eldest son while he lived in Christchurch
But to be fair, it is subjective to most people but of course you have devotees on both the extremes of the argument who continue to act like children
Saying I don't like French wine is akin to saying I don't like American films.
Not really. French wines are beloved by connoisseurs because their wines are often very complex, and have a minerality about them, old vines and old soils, and old methds often. New world wines are usually far more fruit forward, cleaner and fresher to taste, but somewhat less complex. It's entirely in order to express a preference for the latter. Not liking French wines is, I would say, more like not liking French films.
Utter rubbish. There is vast variety in the French portfolio, even for those that favour fruity plonk.
Well, it has been some years since I did my sommelier training, and I did only complete level one, but I'm fairly confident it isn't utter rubbish, thanks anyway.
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
This was a game. Insert an amendment on emotional issue. Get someone who has good back story. Pure naked politics.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Lord Dubs has been campaigning on this issue for a long time. He wasn’t just put forward at the last minute as a front because of his emotional backstory.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
.
There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
Will the fish be asked to show their passports before making the ultimate sacrifice?
Well if they don’t they get battered.
Blimey. If that’s the best you can manage tonight we really have been left with just crumbs.
Childish attitude by some of the ERG extremes. Personally I drink Australian, Kiwi, or Chile wines but that is not some anti EU plot, I just prefer them
Many of which are perfectly fine, some excellent. To cut oneself off from French wine or food is self harm, and is culturally cretinous equivalent to refusing to listen to continental composers . Actually, very similar to Brexit.
Not if you do not like French food or wine.
If you don't like French wine you either haven't sampled the right ones or you don't like wine at all. The same applies to French food. I accept that it is subjective to a small extent.
I do like some French food but as I said my wine drinking, which is very modest, prefers Aus and Kiwi wines probably as I was introduced to them by my eldest son while he lived in Christchurch
But to be fair, it is subjective to most people but of course you have devotees on both the extremes of the argument who continue to act like children
Saying I don't like French wine is akin to saying I don't like American films.
I am neutral on French wine but never watch American films
What an absolutely bizarre policy.
Why. And it is not a policy - I watch few if any films anyway, just the violence in so many turns me off
There are some good American films, but I too tire of the ones where the only conceivable plot resolution is the goodie killing the baddie
You mean like 1917, Dambusters, In Which We Serve, The Cruel Sea, Dunkirk, etc all those American films?
Those made during and close after the war can be excused.
To take your light hearted point seriously, I wonder whether an American would make Dunkirk in the same way. It's hardly a victory, however it was spun.
One of the interesting things about that film was that it showed that that was how the squaddies thought they would be received. As failures.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
.
There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
Will the fish be asked to show their passports before making the ultimate sacrifice?
Well if they don’t they get battered.
Blimey. If that’s the best you can manage tonight we really have been left with just crumbs.
Looks like a classic example of plea bargaining to me. The DA will accept a plea down to 280 but not below it. Hence the bump.
One of the worst aspects of the American justice system.
The blackmail and long periods on remand are not good but plea bargaining is an essential part of any criminal justice system. There is simply not the capacity to operate any other way.
When I operated as a fiscal I took the view that if something was being charged on summary complaint it was not that serious. It was intended to mark the card, make sure that the offender was not entitled to the presumption against a prison sentence that a first offender gets, sometimes just so they could be recalled on a sentence partly served. I was always open to deleting parts of the charge to avoid a trial. These days fiscals hands are much more tightly bound. No dropping a racial or sexual aggravation even if the evidence is poor. It is not an improvement.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
.
There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
You can’t force Brits to eat more fish ! They simply don’t eat that much . It doesn’t matter if you stick another stupid nationalistic slogan on it .
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
This was a game. Insert an amendment on emotional issue. Get someone who has good back story. Pure naked politics.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Lord Dubs has been campaigning on this issue for a long time. He wasn’t just put forward at the last minute as a front because of his emotional backstory.
I think that some people have just earned the right to a certain slack when judging their motives. For me anyone off a Kindertrain is such a person.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
.
There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
You can’t force Brits to eat more fish ! They simply don’t eat that much . It doesn’t matter if you stick another stupid nationalistic slogan on it .
I dunno, as a nation we seem to have got through the entire stock of Kippers recently.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
This was a game. Insert an amendment on emotional issue. Get someone who has good back story. Pure naked politics.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Lord Dubs has been campaigning on this issue for a long time. He wasn’t just put forward at the last minute as a front because of his emotional backstory.
I'm not sure if i should congratulate the statecraft of Dubs and Labour, or laugh at your naivety.
Everything you've said about Dubs been a campaigner for a long time is absolutely true. However attaching this amendment to this bill was pure naked politics, and done in the absolute full knowledge that it would be overturned.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
.
There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
.
There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
You can’t force Brits to eat more fish ! They simply don’t eat that much . It doesn’t matter if you stick another stupid nationalistic slogan on it .
Not sure. In the 1800s some Scottish estate contracts used to stipulate that the food supplied to employees would not be salmon more than 4x a week. More recently I had serious problems with my gall bladder and I eat far more fish and less red meat as a result.
I think there's a haggle to be had in fishing where access ends up slightly less than now. This then gets highlighted as a UK "win", along with rhetoric around UK being an independent coastal state with control of its waters.
It's in the the interest of neither side to allow fishing to block a deal.
Iconic phrase for many Leavers. And it does sound rather noble and rugged TBF.
If Bozo was so intent on uniting got the country after Brexit he wouldn’t tell his lobby fodder MPs to vote down amendments that clearly show he has no intention of doing zip to heal the divisions .
The Dubs amendment and the one on Erasmus .
Both voted down . He could have put forward some worded slightly different , even a few crumbs to indicate the country isn’t going to turn into a mean spirited rock on the shores of mainland Europe .
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
.
There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
Will the fish be asked to show their passports before making the ultimate sacrifice?
Well if they don’t they get battered.
Blimey. If that’s the best you can manage tonight we really have been left with just crumbs.
If Bozo was so intent on uniting got the country after Brexit he wouldn’t tell his lobby fodder MPs to vote down amendments that clearly show he has no intention of doing zip to heal the divisions .
The Dubs amendment and the one on Erasmus .
Both voted down . He could have put forward some worded slightly different , even a few crumbs to indicate the country isn’t going to turn into a mean spirited rock on the shores of mainland Europe .
Erasmus includes non-EU members like Turkey and Iceland.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
I do remember going to one of those for bird flu. What to do in the case of digging trenches and burying people as quickly as possible without family identification after death, death certificates signed without a visit by doctors, refrigerated lorries as temporary mortuaries.
Referred to as "different ways of working".
Probably not much different with a bit of added twitter.
If Bozo was so intent on uniting got the country after Brexit he wouldn’t tell his lobby fodder MPs to vote down amendments that clearly show he has no intention of doing zip to heal the divisions .
The Dubs amendment and the one on Erasmus .
Both voted down . He could have put forward some worded slightly different , even a few crumbs to indicate the country isn’t going to turn into a mean spirited rock on the shores of mainland Europe .
Erasmus includes non-EU members like Turkey and Iceland.
Yup, we used to be members of Erasmus in our own right, now we have to readmit. I would be surprised if we dont opt back in. But like the Dubs amendment, it was put in to fail.
One thing is that some of the French wine makers have disappeared up their own fundements - ridiculous prices, complex flavours that are massively over done etc. Keep an open mind & drink what you actually like. Some of the best Chardonnay comes from... Bulgaria. But you have to go there to drink it - for the moment
If you can, visit where the wine is made. You can *see* the idiots from miles away - over restored buildings, complete with tasting rooms with 20 foot glass walls etc.
I think the French system is flawed, with appellations, and therefore the desirability of the wine based purely on geography, not on the skills and efforts of the winemaker. By contrast German system is a model of teutonic efficiency, with quality based on the amount of sugar in the grapes.
One thing is that some of the French wine makers have disappeared up their own fundements - ridiculous prices, complex flavours that are massively over done etc. Keep an open mind & drink what you actually like. Some of the best Chardonnay comes from... Bulgaria. But you have to go there to drink it - for the moment
If you can, visit where the wine is made. You can *see* the idiots from miles away - over restored buildings, complete with tasting rooms with 20 foot glass walls etc.
I think the French system is flawed, with appellations, and therefore the desirability of the wine based purely on geography, not on the skills and efforts of the winemaker. By contrast German system is a model of teutonic efficiency, with quality based on the amount of sugar in the grapes.
Quality and the amount of sugar in the grapes are only faintly related. I've suffered undrinkably dry Champagnes. And gloried in Tokay's that could create more cases of gout per bottle than anything else on the planet.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
I do remember going to one of those for bird flu. What to do in the case of digging trenches and burying people as quickly as possible without family identification after death, death certificates signed without a visit by doctors, refrigerated lorries as temporary mortuaries.
Referred to as "different ways of working".
Probably not much different with a bit of added twitter.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Indeed
Purely selfishly, as someone currently suffering from a cold, sore throat, lost voice and a tight chest - and with lungs that are sub-optimal - I'd prefer not to read about respiratory viruses, snake-induced or otherwise.
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Tens of thousands infected 81 dead, nearly all old or with breathing difficulties. Suggests to me very low mortality, very low risk. Disruptive certainly but pandemic probably not. Unless it mutates of course.
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
This was a game. Insert an amendment on emotional issue. Get someone who has good back story. Pure naked politics.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Lord Dubs has been campaigning on this issue for a long time. He wasn’t just put forward at the last minute as a front because of his emotional backstory.
I'm not sure if i should congratulate the statecraft of Dubs and Labour, or laugh at your naivety.
Everything you've said about Dubs been a campaigner for a long time is absolutely true. However attaching this amendment to this bill was pure naked politics, and done in the absolute full knowledge that it would be overturned.
What was the good reason for overturning it? And how naive do you have to be to believe government assurances that they will take steps to help child refugees separated from their parents living here?
Bizarely the DT lover of Brexit suggests Nissan might be heading for the exit door .
Oh well don’t expect Remainers to shed many tears for the turkeys in Sunderland who voted for Christmas .
My fellow Remainers will when they need Sunderland’s taxes to bail them out following the unraveling of their embezzlement gravy trains, er, banking businesses.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Indeed
Purely selfishly, as someone currently suffering from a cold, sore throat, lost voice and a tight chest - and with lungs that are sub-optimal - I'd prefer not to read about respiratory viruses, snake-induced or otherwise.
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
Blimey, Cyclefree, that is crazy. I hope they find the right thing to treat it with soon.
I know Fairbourne well. I assure you there are Welsh people there, although yes, the majority are English. If you include Friog as part of Fairbourne the proportion rises further.
The real reason the article is stupid is because it’s plum wrong. Dunwich and Ravenspur spring to mind as settlements lost to the sea without me even bothering to search my mind. I think there are about 40 others in Humberside and Holdernesse alone.
With Fairbourne, I suspect it will continue to be threatened until the instant Network Rail say that if the railway line floods, Gwynedd will have to fund the repairs - and then there will be a sudden change of heart.
I know the area very well too. We must meet up and look for orchids on the dunes of Morfa Henddol.
If you too know the area well, then you will know that Friog is not part of Fairbourne. Friog is not built on the spit. The railway line is not on the spit either, and in any case the responsibility for the railway line will not lie with Cyngor Gwynedd.
There are paintings of Morfa Henddol from the nineteenth century before Fairbourne ever existed. They show beautiful, desolate, lonely marshland, with no human habitation. The Welsh had too much sense to build anything permanent there.
For over a century, there has been building of new properties on inadequately defended coastal plains and salt marsh in Wales -- land on which building should never have been allowed.
Why did this happen?
Since the coming of the railways over 160 years ago, tourists visited coastal Wales for their holidays, and this led to the growth of resorts where little or nothing had existed before. Many of those tourists wished to settle permanently, or retire to, Wales, so new homes were built for them . . . with the inevitable consequences.
Fairbourne's location is truly breathtaking. But nothing, nothing can be done to save it.
Fairbourne itself has no history. The ugly buildings are not worth saving. It is a collection of shabby and semi-derelict bungalows that disfigure some of the most beautiful landscapes in Wales.
Fairbourne should be left to fall in the sea. It should never have been.
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
This was a game. Insert an amendment on emotional issue. Get someone who has good back story. Pure naked politics.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Lord Dubs has been campaigning on this issue for a long time. He wasn’t just put forward at the last minute as a front because of his emotional backstory.
I'm not sure if i should congratulate the statecraft of Dubs and Labour, or laugh at your naivety.
Everything you've said about Dubs been a campaigner for a long time is absolutely true. However attaching this amendment to this bill was pure naked politics, and done in the absolute full knowledge that it would be overturned.
What was the good reason for overturning it? And how naive do you have to be to believe government assurances that they will take steps to help child refugees separated from their parents living here?
Varadkar is talking his own book. If the EU do not get access to UK waters (which in itself is the wrong term it is quota that they want) the Germans , Dutch, Belgians, French and Spanish will remind Leo that he is in the CFP and so they want much larger quotas in the Irish waters than they do now, meaning cut the Irish fishing fleet by a lot. Also with the City, Canary Dwarf has told him they like the liquidity in London and that London provides a lot of business for them so he should preserve this. They only thing Leo forgot to say was please.
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
This was a game. Insert an amendment on emotional issue. Get someone who has good back story. Pure naked politics.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Lord Dubs has been campaigning on this issue for a long time. He wasn’t just put forward at the last minute as a front because of his emotional backstory.
I'm not sure if i should congratulate the statecraft of Dubs and Labour, or laugh at your naivety.
Everything you've said about Dubs been a campaigner for a long time is absolutely true. However attaching this amendment to this bill was pure naked politics, and done in the absolute full knowledge that it would be overturned.
What was the good reason for overturning it? And how naive do you have to be to believe government assurances that they will take steps to help child refugees separated from their parents living here?
You do realise you have been played?
Only if I believed a word of what either Labour or the Tories said on this topic. Which I don’t. I simply believe that Lord Dubs is absolutely sincere in his campaigning on this issue, whatever games other people may be playing.
I know the area very well too. We must meet up and look for orchids on the dunes of Morfa Henddol.
If you too know the area well, then you will know that Friog is not part of Fairbourne. Friog is not built on the spit. The railway line is not on the spit either, and in any case the responsibility for the railway line will not lie with Cyngor Gwynedd.
I’m curious as to how you think the village can be flooded and the railway line saved, given parts of it are lower than the village and the passage across the marsh to Morfa Mawddach in particular is where any flooding would likely happen first.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
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There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
This was a game. Insert an amendment on emotional issue. Get someone who has good back story. Pure naked politics.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Lord Dubs has been campaigning on this issue for a long time. He wasn’t just put forward at the last minute as a front because of his emotional backstory.
I'm not sure if i should congratulate the statecraft of Dubs and Labour, or laugh at your naivety.
Everything you've said about Dubs been a campaigner for a long time is absolutely true. However attaching this amendment to this bill was pure naked politics, and done in the absolute full knowledge that it would be overturned.
What was the good reason for overturning it? And how naive do you have to be to believe government assurances that they will take steps to help child refugees separated from their parents living here?
You do realise you have been played?
Only if I believed a word of what either Labour or the Tories said on this topic. Which I don’t. I simply believe that Lord Dubs is absolutely sincere in his campaigning on this issue, whatever games other people may be playing.
Lord Dubs I have no doubt is 100% sincere.
Its sad to see partisan gameplaying on both side around this matter using it as a political football.
I hope in the cold light of day this issue can be treated with the sobriety it deserves and the right actions are taken without partisan politics.
One thing is that some of the French wine makers have disappeared up their own fundements - ridiculous prices, complex flavours that are massively over done etc. Keep an open mind & drink what you actually like. Some of the best Chardonnay comes from... Bulgaria. But you have to go there to drink it - for the moment
If you can, visit where the wine is made. You can *see* the idiots from miles away - over restored buildings, complete with tasting rooms with 20 foot glass walls etc.
I think the French system is flawed, with appellations, and therefore the desirability of the wine based purely on geography, not on the skills and efforts of the winemaker. By contrast German system is a model of teutonic efficiency, with quality based on the amount of sugar in the grapes.
Quality and the amount of sugar in the grapes are only faintly related. I've suffered undrinkably dry Champagnes. And gloried in Tokay's that could create more cases of gout per bottle than anything else on the planet.
Anything that induces gout should be buried in a very, very deep pit.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Indeed
Purely selfishly, as someone currently suffering from a cold, sore throat, lost voice and a tight chest - and with lungs that are sub-optimal - I'd prefer not to read about respiratory viruses, snake-induced or otherwise.
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
Blimey, Cyclefree, that is crazy. I hope they find the right thing to treat it with soon.
Benylin, Strepsils and Nurofen. Plus wrapping up warm, lots of sleep and some nice Scotch broth. It took me a month to get over the very strong antibiotics I was on before.
It’s doing wonders for my reading mind. Halfway through Max Hastings’ book on the Vietnam War. And there are some fantastic radio programmes to catch up on too.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Tens of thousands infected 81 dead, nearly all old or with breathing difficulties. Suggests to me very low mortality, very low risk. Disruptive certainly but pandemic probably not. Unless it mutates of course.
Assuming we believe the Chinese have told the truth ......
A reminder that ordinary people can be real heroes, in the true meaning of that word.
That is just so emotional and enriching
It is.
Sad that Alf Dubs who arrived in England on the Kindertransport had his bill on child refugees voted down just a few days ago.
Mr Dubs was playing the game and he knows it. I suspect you do also.
Mr Dubs was one of those child refugees saved from the Nazis by actions such as those of Nicholas Winton. I doubt he considers saving children’s lives to be any sort of “game”.
This was a game. Insert an amendment on emotional issue. Get someone who has good back story. Pure naked politics.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Lord Dubs has been campaigning on this issue for a long time. He wasn’t just put forward at the last minute as a front because of his emotional backstory.
I'm not sure if i should congratulate the statecraft of Dubs and Labour, or laugh at your naivety.
Everything you've said about Dubs been a campaigner for a long time is absolutely true. However attaching this amendment to this bill was pure naked politics, and done in the absolute full knowledge that it would be overturned.
What was the good reason for overturning it? And how naive do you have to be to believe government assurances that they will take steps to help child refugees separated from their parents living here?
You do realise you have been played?
Only if I believed a word of what either Labour or the Tories said on this topic. Which I don’t. I simply believe that Lord Dubs is absolutely sincere in his campaigning on this issue, whatever games other people may be playing.
Lord Dubs I have no doubt is 100% sincere.
Its sad to see partisan gameplaying on both side around this matter using it as a political football.
I hope in the cold light of day this issue can be treated with the sobriety it deserves and the right actions are taken without partisan politics.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Indeed
Purely selfishly, as someone currently suffering from a cold, sore throat, lost voice and a tight chest - and with lungs that are sub-optimal - I'd prefer not to read about respiratory viruses, snake-induced or otherwise.
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
Blimey, Cyclefree, that is crazy. I hope they find the right thing to treat it with soon.
Benylin, Strepsils and Nurofen. Plus wrapping up warm, lots of sleep and some nice Scotch broth. It took me a month to get over the very strong antibiotics I was on before.
It’s doing wonders for my reading mind. Halfway through Max Hastings’ book on the Vietnam War. And there are some fantastic radio programmes to catch up on too.
Is it any good? Was thinking of buying it for my sixth formers.
The internet can have a twisted sense of humour sometimes. I was just browsing Steam to see if there was anything good in the sale and noticed this user recommendation [not from a friend], took a screenshot but snipped out the reviewers username . . .
I know the area very well too. We must meet up and look for orchids on the dunes of Morfa Henddol.
If you too know the area well, then you will know that Friog is not part of Fairbourne. Friog is not built on the spit. The railway line is not on the spit either, and in any case the responsibility for the railway line will not lie with Cyngor Gwynedd.
I’m curious as to how you think the village can be flooded and the railway line saved, given parts of it are lower than the village and the passage across the marsh to Morfa Mawddach in particular is where any flooding would likely happen first.
It is the shingle embankment of the spit that the Fairbourne villagers want strengthening. They want protection against the sea waves, not the Afon Mawddach.
Morfa Mawddach is of course very susceptible to flooding -- but saving the railway line (which does not go along the spit) is clearly much, much cheaper than building a granite embankment to encase the spit and save Fairbourne.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Tens of thousands infected 81 dead, nearly all old or with breathing difficulties. Suggests to me very low mortality, very low risk. Disruptive certainly but pandemic probably not. Unless it mutates of course.
I got the feeling that the government dont believe the low figures coming out of China...there is a sense of a much bigger problem than is being reported
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Indeed
Purely selfishly, as someone currently suffering from a cold, sore throat, lost voice and a tight chest - and with lungs that are sub-optimal - I'd prefer not to read about respiratory viruses, snake-induced or otherwise.
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
Blimey, Cyclefree, that is crazy. I hope they find the right thing to treat it with soon.
Benylin, Strepsils and Nurofen. Plus wrapping up warm, lots of sleep and some nice Scotch broth. It took me a month to get over the very strong antibiotics I was on before.
It’s doing wonders for my reading mind. Halfway through Max Hastings’ book on the Vietnam War. And there are some fantastic radio programmes to catch up on too.
Is it any good? Was thinking of buying it for my sixth formers.
If you want to recommend background reading to them about the Vietnam War, then I would put forward Chickenhawk. The memoirs of a helicopter pilot in 1966 at the early stages.
It is. There is quite a lot of detail in it and it’s quite long (necessarily), so I’m glad I saw the Vietnam documentary series first. Helps with the context and background to how the US system works, why some in the US were so bothered by the “loss” of China etc.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Indeed
Purely selfishly, as someone currently suffering from a cold, sore throat, lost voice and a tight chest - and with lungs that are sub-optimal - I'd prefer not to read about respiratory viruses, snake-induced or otherwise.
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
Blimey, Cyclefree, that is crazy. I hope they find the right thing to treat it with soon.
Benylin, Strepsils and Nurofen. Plus wrapping up warm, lots of sleep and some nice Scotch broth. It took me a month to get over the very strong antibiotics I was on before.
It’s doing wonders for my reading mind. Halfway through Max Hastings’ book on the Vietnam War. And there are some fantastic radio programmes to catch up on too.
Is it any good? Was thinking of buying it for my sixth formers.
If you want to recommend background reading to them about the Vietnam War, then I would put forward Chickenhawk. The memoirs of a helicopter pilot in 1966 at the early stages.
Better still, show them part or all of the outstanding 10-part Ken Burns Lynn Novick series. Superlatives don't come close.
In Vietnam it's known as The American War although that tv series brilliantly tells about the antecedents.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Indeed
Purely selfishly, as someone currently suffering from a cold, sore throat, lost voice and a tight chest - and with lungs that are sub-optimal - I'd prefer not to read about respiratory viruses, snake-induced or otherwise.
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Tens of thousands infected 81 dead, nearly all old or with breathing difficulties. Suggests to me very low mortality, very low risk. Disruptive certainly but pandemic probably not. Unless it mutates of course.
Assuming we believe the Chinese have told the truth ......
I don't. It'll be all about face over there and wanting to show the world they're competent and have got it under control.
If Bozo was so intent on uniting got the country after Brexit he wouldn’t tell his lobby fodder MPs to vote down amendments that clearly show he has no intention of doing zip to heal the divisions .
The Dubs amendment and the one on Erasmus .
Both voted down . He could have put forward some worded slightly different , even a few crumbs to indicate the country isn’t going to turn into a mean spirited rock on the shores of mainland Europe .
Erasmus includes non-EU members like Turkey and Iceland.
I watched the film Contagion (2011) again last night. The problem with it is that's like watching a documentary i.e. entirely plausible in almost every regard and eerily close to the opening sequences of the Coronavirus. The first half hour of the film is pretty gripping.
It doesn't need to be said, I guess, but we're standing quite close to a precipice.
What a complete twat. I really do wonder what has happened to the once great Conservative Party. It has been taken over by morons that should be more at home in the BNP. They are too lacking in self awareness to realise how insanely thick they look.
They not only look thick they are thick , really really thick.
Press coverage of the Italian regional elections is amusing - in the build up was all about "Can the right/Salvini take Emilia romagna ?!" After the elction is all about his "failure" to do so (Despite a ~ 6% swing to the right), more or less ignoring the huge swing achieved in Calabria.
It is. There is quite a lot of detail in it and it’s quite long (necessarily), so I’m glad I saw the Vietnam documentary series first. Helps with the context and background to how the US system works, why some in the US were so bothered by the “loss” of China etc.
Hastings is addictive: I've got all of his historical back catalogue. His latest is "Chastise" about the Dambuster raids and it's out in paperback in the Autumn.
Ps major symps for the illness: sounds like no fun at all.
I have no brief to speak for Andrew Rosindell, but surely there's a significant difference between focusing on British produce because it's appropriate to the occasion, and BANNING FRENCH AND GERMAN WINE!!1!!
Does Bavaria's Oktoberfest BAN FOREIGN BEER? Do most Burns Night celebrations BAN ALL NON-SCOTTISH LIQUOR?
@malcolmg , @Luckyguy1983 raises an interesting point. Do Burns Night celebrations actually ban non-Scottish liquor?
In my experience its whisky for the toasts but for the rest of the night you drink what you want. A spicy red is particularly good with haggis.
For sure David , you drink what you want even for the toast to the haggis.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Tens of thousands infected 81 dead, nearly all old or with breathing difficulties. Suggests to me very low mortality, very low risk. Disruptive certainly but pandemic probably not. Unless it mutates of course.
I got the feeling that the government dont believe the low figures coming out of China...there is a sense of a much bigger problem than is being reported
I suspect the numbers we are getting are at least a week old. Not wrong as such, just not current.....
I know the area very well too. We must meet up and look for orchids on the dunes of Morfa Henddol.
If you too know the area well, then you will know that Friog is not part of Fairbourne. Friog is not built on the spit. The railway line is not on the spit either, and in any case the responsibility for the railway line will not lie with Cyngor Gwynedd.
I’m curious as to how you think the village can be flooded and the railway line saved, given parts of it are lower than the village and the passage across the marsh to Morfa Mawddach in particular is where any flooding would likely happen first.
It is the shingle embankment of the spit that the Fairbourne villagers want strengthening. They want protection against the sea waves, not the Afon Mawddach.
Morfa Mawddach is of course very susceptible to flooding -- but saving the railway line (which does not go along the spit) is clearly much, much cheaper than building a granite embankment to encase the spit and save Fairbourne.
If the spit goes, so does the railway line. Very expensively. I cannot see a realistic way of saving the railway line if the sea defences are abandoned other than to raise the whole section from Friog Rocks to Barmouth Bridge on an embankment, which will certainly cost more than saving the village.
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
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There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
Most of the fish Brits eat comes from outside the UK , mainly from Norway and Iceland . Most of what the UK catches is exported and goes to the EU .
UK seafood is very popular in the EU ,most of that’s live exported hence the need for that to move quickly.
UK fishermen keep bleating about the EU but why have many sold their quotas to big EU companies .
So if more fish is caught by British fishermen more will be bought by British consumers.
British fish from British waters for British dining tables
Will the fish be asked to show their passports before making the ultimate sacrifice?
Varadkar says the EU likely to demand foreign boats in UK waters in return for few restrictions on the City.
With fishing ports from Grimsby to Brixham to Fleetwood and Lowestoft and Newlyn now represented by Tory MPs as well as the importance of fishing to Scottish Tory seats like Moray hard to see Boris not favouring fishing even if it means some extra restrictions on the City, especially as the vast majority of London seats now have Labour or LD MPs and the Tories made virtually no net gains in the South East at the last general election.
Always about the tories nothing else matters as long as our MPs and councillors win, sad
True . Fishing makes up a tiny proportion of UK GDP . And most of what the UK catches goes to the EU . So that’s the biggest market . And the EU will just slap tariffs on that unless there’s some deal .
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There will be a deal, as Varadkar has stated it is a matter of balancing fishing and financial services access and of course most of the UK fishing catch actually goes to the UK domestic market
The deal will be selling Scottish fisherman down the river to get some advantage for southern England, BAU for the Tories.
Within the UK, the ranking of: • England did not change, remaining a little above mid-table (i.e second quartile); • Scotland fell into the third quartile of countries, due to a decline in its education and income performances, the latter associated with the decline in North Sea related activity. Despite this, Scotland’s very poor life expectancy performance remains its weakest area of performance; • Wales and Northern Ireland both fell into the bottom quartile of countries, principally due to poor GDP performances. - The relatively poor Scottish performance, in terms of education and health, suggests that changes may be needed to the, still young, devolved political system. Such changes should involve strengthening the challenge and scrutiny roles both within and out-with the Parliament. - Looking across the UK as a whole, the results highlight the fact that greater political devolution alone does not easily lead to an improving performance in key areas of well- being. In fact, unless proper supporting bodies are also cultivated, it can lead to a weakening in some important aspects of policy development.
Scotland's areas of decline within its control are both fully devolved - Education and Health. I'm not sure Westminster can be blamed for the price of oil....
I know the area very well too. We must meet up and look for orchids on the dunes of Morfa Henddol.
If you too know the area well, then you will know that Friog is not part of Fairbourne. Friog is not built on the spit. The railway line is not on the spit either, and in any case the responsibility for the railway line will not lie with Cyngor Gwynedd.
I’m curious as to how you think the village can be flooded and the railway line saved, given parts of it are lower than the village and the passage across the marsh to Morfa Mawddach in particular is where any flooding would likely happen first.
It is the shingle embankment of the spit that the Fairbourne villagers want strengthening. They want protection against the sea waves, not the Afon Mawddach.
Morfa Mawddach is of course very susceptible to flooding -- but saving the railway line (which does not go along the spit) is clearly much, much cheaper than building a granite embankment to encase the spit and save Fairbourne.
If the spit goes, so does the railway line. Very expensively. I cannot see a realistic way of saving the railway line if the sea defences are abandoned other than to raise the whole section from Friog Rocks to Barmouth Bridge on an embankment, which will certainly cost more than saving the village.
The perimeter of the land against which you are protecting the ocean waves is much, much greater if you want to save the whole of the spit. So, I'd like to see your back-of-the-envelope calculation on costs
I agree there is ~ 1 km of railway track that is built on the Morfa, and parts of it will have to be raised if the line continues to cross the Afon Mawddach at the Barmouth bridge.
It may be cheaper to take the railway line to Penmaenpool & cross the Mawddach there (there is a road bridge of course at Penmaenpool).
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
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Purely selfishly, as someone currently suffering from a cold, sore throat, lost voice and a tight chest - and with lungs that are sub-optimal - I'd prefer not to read about respiratory viruses, snake-induced or otherwise.
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
Hope you feel better soon. Have you tried apple cider vinegar? They sell the organic stuff in COOP now. I use it to make salad dressing. Delicious.
I do hope we have a post on the possible global impact of Coronavirus. I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
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Purely selfishly, as someone currently suffering from a cold, sore throat, lost voice and a tight chest - and with lungs that are sub-optimal - I'd prefer not to read about respiratory viruses, snake-induced or otherwise.
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
Blimey, Cyclefree, that is crazy. I hope they find the right thing to treat it with soon.
Benylin, Strepsils and Nurofen. Plus wrapping up warm, lots of sleep and some nice Scotch broth. It took me a month to get over the very strong antibiotics I was on before.
It’s doing wonders for my reading mind. Halfway through Max Hastings’ book on the Vietnam War. And there are some fantastic radio programmes to catch up on too.
Be careful, my wife was similar and is still in hospital unwell after a month. We thought it was just a virus but ended up very serious pneumonia which they are still trying to control. PS: Not trying to alarm you.
I know the area very well too. We must meet up and look for orchids on the dunes of Morfa Henddol.
If you too know the area well, then you will know that Friog is not part of Fairbourne. Friog is not built on the spit. The railway line is not on the spit either, and in any case the responsibility for the railway line will not lie with Cyngor Gwynedd.
I’m curious as to how you think the village can be flooded and the railway line saved, given parts of it are lower than the village and the passage across the marsh to Morfa Mawddach in particular is where any flooding would likely happen first.
It is the shingle embankment of the spit that the Fairbourne villagers want strengthening. They want protection against the sea waves, not the Afon Mawddach.
Morfa Mawddach is of course very susceptible to flooding -- but saving the railway line (which does not go along the spit) is clearly much, much cheaper than building a granite embankment to encase the spit and save Fairbourne.
If the spit goes, so does the railway line. Very expensively. I cannot see a realistic way of saving the railway line if the sea defences are abandoned other than to raise the whole section from Friog Rocks to Barmouth Bridge on an embankment, which will certainly cost more than saving the village.
The perimeter of the land against which you are protecting the ocean waves is much, much greater if you want to save the whole of the spit. So, I'd like to see your back-of-the-envelope calculation on costs
I agree there is ~ 1 km of railway track that is built on the Morfa, and parts of it will have to be raised if the line continues to cross the Afon Mawddach at the Barmouth bridge.
It may be cheaper to take the railway line to Penmaenpool & cross the Mawddach there (there is a road bridge of course at Penmaenpool).
Okaaaay...
But since the land actually rises from Morfa Mawddach (where the line to Dolgellau diverged) to Barmouth Bridge, I’m not quite sure how that helps. The low point is about 400 yards north of Fairbourne station.
I’m also wondering how (a) you get it back to Barmouth from Penmaenpool and (b) how the bloody hell you get the train to do a sharp right angled turn at the George III to cross the bridge.
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He keeps making clear there will be no customs border in the Irish Sea and that’s complete nonsense.
https://twitter.com/ddmeyer/status/1220480907393372160?s=19
It'd be like saying I never listen to any music because some rap songs contain the n word.
of course this might be baseless.. I suspect not though. When people become aware they can get away with something they will behave without any regard to the law/rules.
This was never about the issue but about causing maximum damage knowing that the amendment would have to be removed.
Scotland does poorly = it's the Union.
Scotland does well = it's the SNP Government of course!
When I operated as a fiscal I took the view that if something was being charged on summary complaint it was not that serious. It was intended to mark the card, make sure that the offender was not entitled to the presumption against a prison sentence that a first offender gets, sometimes just so they could be recalled on a sentence partly served. I was always open to deleting parts of the charge to avoid a trial. These days fiscals hands are much more tightly bound. No dropping a racial or sexual aggravation even if the evidence is poor. It is not an improvement.
I went to a local authority planning session today for possible pandemic..its not Brexit we have to worry about I can assure you. you
Everything you've said about Dubs been a campaigner for a long time is absolutely true. However attaching this amendment to this bill was pure naked politics, and done in the absolute full knowledge that it would be overturned.
The Dubs amendment and the one on Erasmus .
Both voted down . He could have put forward some worded slightly different , even a few crumbs to indicate the country isn’t going to turn into a mean spirited rock on the shores of mainland Europe .
Referred to as "different ways of working".
Probably not much different with a bit of added twitter.
Oh well don’t expect Remainers to shed many tears for the turkeys in Sunderland who voted for Christmas .
Fortunately since Xmas I’ve been holed up in a remote corner of Cumbria (with only a 2-day visit to London at NY to expose me to danger) so I’m hoping that it’s just the usual winter bug and I will see my next birthday in 2 weeks time.
If you too know the area well, then you will know that Friog is not part of Fairbourne. Friog is not built on the spit. The railway line is not on the spit either, and in any case the responsibility for the railway line will not lie with Cyngor Gwynedd.
There are paintings of Morfa Henddol from the nineteenth century before Fairbourne ever existed. They show beautiful, desolate, lonely marshland, with no human habitation. The Welsh had too much sense to build anything permanent there.
For over a century, there has been building of new properties on inadequately defended coastal plains and salt marsh in Wales -- land on which building should never have been allowed.
Why did this happen?
Since the coming of the railways over 160 years ago, tourists visited coastal Wales for their holidays, and this led to the growth of resorts where little or nothing had existed before. Many of those tourists wished to settle permanently, or retire to, Wales, so new homes were built for them . . . with the inevitable consequences.
Fairbourne's location is truly breathtaking. But nothing, nothing can be done to save it.
Fairbourne itself has no history. The ugly buildings are not worth saving. It is a collection of shabby and semi-derelict bungalows that disfigure some of the most beautiful landscapes in Wales.
Fairbourne should be left to fall in the sea. It should never have been.
They only thing Leo forgot to say was please.
Its sad to see partisan gameplaying on both side around this matter using it as a political football.
I hope in the cold light of day this issue can be treated with the sobriety it deserves and the right actions are taken without partisan politics.
In my case, it is scallops.
It’s doing wonders for my reading mind. Halfway through Max Hastings’ book on the Vietnam War. And there are some fantastic radio programmes to catch up on too.
Morfa Mawddach is of course very susceptible to flooding -- but saving the railway line (which does not go along the spit) is clearly much, much cheaper than building a granite embankment to encase the spit and save Fairbourne.
In Vietnam it's known as The American War although that tv series brilliantly tells about the antecedents.
Hope you get well soon 😊
Individual casualties can go whistle.
It doesn't need to be said, I guess, but we're standing quite close to a precipice.
After the elction is all about his "failure" to do so (Despite a ~ 6% swing to the right), more or less ignoring the huge swing achieved in Calabria.
Ps major symps for the illness: sounds like no fun at all.
(I could not get the spell check to correct candadits so people was the easy alternative)
I agree there is ~ 1 km of railway track that is built on the Morfa, and parts of it will have to be raised if the line continues to cross the Afon Mawddach at the Barmouth bridge.
It may be cheaper to take the railway line to Penmaenpool & cross the Mawddach there (there is a road bridge of course at Penmaenpool).
PS: Not trying to alarm you.
But since the land actually rises from Morfa Mawddach (where the line to Dolgellau diverged) to Barmouth Bridge, I’m not quite sure how that helps. The low point is about 400 yards north of Fairbourne station.
I’m also wondering how (a) you get it back to Barmouth from Penmaenpool and (b) how the bloody hell you get the train to do a sharp right angled turn at the George III to cross the bridge.