politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » BMG finds just 2% of voters back Long-Bailey for LAB leader with 61% saying they haven’t heard of her’
The main poll this weekend is by BMG for the Independent which looks at both the policy profile that would command support and views of possible replacements for two-time loser, Corbyn who led his party to its worst general election since 1935.
This rules him out of contention.
I think it underplays the economic issues and overplays the political ones somewhat but I can't argue with its overall thrust.
Do they realise that, in order to win an election and govern, they have to persuade and win over a couple of million people who just voted for the blue team, not simply their own fanatical membership?
A complete failure to understand why calling people evil racist bigots doesn’t persuade them to vote for you.
Is there a case for compulsory voting, as in Australia?
Having said that, New Zealand doesn't have it, and their turnouts are much nearer (and sometimes over) 80% than ours.
That's not the case for Long Bailey, but equally it would be if people if ability had been willing to serve under Corbyn, rather than being sacked for being honest and saying he was useless.
Asking for a friend...
The idea that any of them could do a Kinnock and deep-cleanse the party of its current incarnation of Militant is risible. Some of the front-runners wouldn't even have the inclination.
But at least the ongoing dire state of Labour will act as a continuing comfort to those who already made the break to the Tories - and give a bit more resolve to those who may well join them next time. Because for the vast majority of voters, Labour does not offer a path to improving their life.
I'm calling it: Labour is dead as a political force at Westminster. It has
been reduced to a lobby group for city centres and for nowhere else and nothing else. If Labour think this election was brutal, just wait until 2024.
When considering Cummings vs. MoD I experience a similar emotional pang to watching Man Utd vs Chelsea: it's a shame they both can't lose.
What is sloppy is denying the evidence that Labour offered nothing but tradition.
In short I think those who are saying that the Labour Party is doomed are over egging things enormously. It still has over 200 MPs. It remains dominant in London and most other large cities. It is the official opposition and has huge institutional advantages over, for example, the Lib Dems who will once again struggle to be heard at all.
The important thing for Labour is that the new leader, whoever she is, works to bring the talent that was exiled on the back benches by choice or sacking back in the game, to start to build a team who can be bothered to actually learn their briefs so that they sound vaguely coherent when interviewed about it and who over a period of years start to adapt a platform which sounds vaguely credible. I would suggest that the last thing Labour needs is expulsions or purges (anti semitics apart). Those idiots who surround Corbyn should not be expelled, they should be quietly ignored and allowed to return to the obscurity from whence they came.
The Tories have increased their vote share 6 elections in a row. It is an astonishing achievement but it is very unlikely to be repeated. I think, barring complete disaster, they are pretty much nailed on to win the next election now or at least get so close no other government is viable. The new Labour leader's job is to get back in the game, to get close and competitive enough so that in the election after that they can actually win. I think this is not only doable, it seems likely given the natural swings in our politics. In short Labour can self destruct but it can also choose not to and it probably will.
Dem challenger in South Carolina is within 2 points of Graham.
Graham won in 2014 by 17 points.
I’m not sure even Labour Party members see her as the second coming, and 5/2 is too short.
Interesting CNN link.
That said, 5/2 seems way too short for someone so lightweight.
Make of all that what you will.
Selectively hedging against gut-instinct, perhaps? Or 'shag' for short.
Vital to learn the lessons of Labour’s #GE2019 defeat. However, the answers will not be found at the door of New Labour’s architects. Blair’s legacy still hangs around this party like a millstone, especially in the North East. I heard it time & time again:
I sometimes wonder whether something similar happened to Diane Abbott, although I don’t think she was anything other than pretty left wing.
Am I totally bonkers and righteously angry? Not really. But I have little hope of positive change in this country.
Blair is poison to most on the left. It doesn't matter if he 'won.' So did Thatcher. Doesn't mean she had social democratic or socialist principles.
That's always very persuasive.
It's certainly value. A nice tip, however unlikely.
100/1 to do what?
David Lammy could be value at 100/1 to do lots of things
Dawn Butler is absolutely useless.
Labour need their Micheal Howard or John Smith before their Blair. Not Blair in terms of policy, but Blair in terms of charisma and appeal to a plurality of voters.
I’ve heard both Blair and Jim Murphy make good points in recent days about the lunacy of the far Left, and then throw in how good openness to immigration is for the economy and cultural enrichment.
Many political factions are incapable of learning lessons it seems.
Labour are slightly hamstrung by the idea that they feel the 'need' to put a woman in the top post. The problem being that there's no one of any calibre. Yvette Cooper comes closest but as a Blairite there's little chance. Thornberry is marmite. Loved and hated. And that's it. I don't rate any of the other sisters I'm afraid.
They'd be far better to put a top bloke in there than install a token female. I mean, it hardly served the LibDems well did it?
Emily Thornberry may or may not have called them stupid but I can see her point. They are, at least, deluded. The chimera of Brexit will soon dash their dreams of a better life via Leaving the EU.
Cummings and Johnson knew all this, of course, and cynically manipulated it.
Incidentally, another rape gang got sent down recently.
Though human extinction may provide the solution to the climate crisis.