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The Conservatives are triumphant. Labour have been smashed, the Lib Dems have actually regressed. The Tories may not have managed a landslide in the technical sense of getting a majority of 100, but they weren’t far away and their lead of 160 over the second-placed party is very handy indeed. They will be as dominant in Parliament as the Conservatives were in the 1987 Parliament or the Labour party was after the 2005 election.
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That is just utter nonsense. Boris said that EU immigrants were able to move to the UK as if it were part of their own country via FOM, which is undeniably true. Did he really say anything that can be taken to mean what I have quoted from the header?
He did not complain that "EU citizens felt at home in Britain".
What he said was:
“EU migrants have been able to treat the UK as if it’s part of their own country”
which is a fundamentally different thing.
Au contraire, this supporter believes that the biggest asset for the SNP has always been the ball aching mediocrity (and in some cases ghastliness) of their opposition. I see not the slightest indication that this is going to change.
Less Laing I think (Abstention due to wishing to go for Deputy role) & 2 more abstentions for others who want to run for deputy speaker ?
Means there were 3 absent. Possibly paired?
Indeed, I suspect the government will go for May 2024 anyway (assuming they don't extend the life of Parliaments to more than 5 years). Going the whole hog to 12th December 2024, and THEN having a five week campaign over Christmas seems brave.
Full marks to Keir Starmer
Merry Christmas Mr Meeks, our dear Eeyore.
Grahame Morris must have been told he was on final warning over Brexit in Easington on the doorstep lol.
What exactly was it that he was objecting to, if it wasn't just a piece of generic red meat thrown in the direction of xenophobes who might vote Tory?
What exactly was it that he was objecting to, if it wasn't just a piece of generic red meat thrown in the direction of xenophobes who might vote Tory?
Here's some of the UKIP's Islamophobia from when you were a member (things I warned you and others on PB at the time)
March 2015 - Farage British Muslim ‘fifth column’ fuels fear of immigration (as a Jewish organisation said at the time, this is one of the oldest anti semitic smears)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/12/nigel-farage-british-muslim-fifth-column-fuels-immigration-fear-ukip
2014 - Ukip MEP says British Muslims should sign charter rejecting violence. Gerard Batten, Ukip's immigration spokesman, proposed ban on new European mosques and says Qur'an needs updating
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/04/ukip-mep-gerard-batten-muslims-sign-charter-rejecting-violence
Jan 2015 - Nigel Farage tells Fox News there are no-go zones for non-Muslims in France
French embassy in London says Ukip leader’s remarks are comparable to Steven Emerson’s Birmingham gaffe
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/13/nigel-farage-ukip-no-go-zones-non-muslim-france-charlie-hebdo
Jan 2015 - Nigel Farage claims that Muslims are running UK 'ghettos' according to Sharia law
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nigel-farage-claims-there-are-no-go-zones-for-non-muslims-in-french-cities-on-fox-news-9976907.html
I could list many many more examples but I've decided to spare your blushes.
So tell me again all of these things happened whilst you were a member and you couldn't spot UKIP heading into a far right anti Islam cesspool?
Like Jeremy Corbyn you are the most unluckiest anti racist in the world.
I've stroked Larry once, but generally he's an arsehole, as most cats are.
He's very lazy as well, he was hired to catch mice in Downing Street, he saw and decided to lay on his back.
Those communities have finally shown they can't be taken for granted and politicians of all stripes will have to take their concerns much more seriously in the future. This can only be a good thing.
The whole system in the North is about to collapse, especially the trains which will impact bus and tram services, and that's not going to be a good look when he spaffs billions on HS2.
From the man who bent over backwards to be migrant-friendly when he thought it was to his political advantage as Mayor of London?
How naive can you get?
This, from the header, is the single most important thing to get one's head around. It is also what I am most worried about.
As the Cons strive to keep the identity-driven WWC voters they have now captured - and upon which their GE win was constructed - where will that take them?
That's why the right-wing nutters are being very foolish if they think all their Christmases have come at once.
Plebs in first class is disgraceful. They smell and have terrible fashion choices.
But to me it seemed to say what is factually true; that people from the EU can treat the UK as if it were part of their own country for immigration purposes, as they can. I think that was the reason for UKIP doing well in 2014-15, the referendum being won by Leave in 2016, and Boris winning last week.
And also indicative of why Corbyn was wrong. His fare reductions would have seen rich commuters in London and the South East get massive discounts while doing little for anyone else.
It remains to be seen whether or not Boris will govern for the whole country but the good news is that with the red wall seats in play, they will be impossible for politicians of all sides to ignore for the foreseeable future.
Figs out today show that the economy grew by 0.4% in Q3 - that's not marvellous, but its not flatlining. (It's also better than Q3 nos for France, Germany and Japan).
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-economy/uk-economys-growth-in-q3-revised-up-smallest-current-account-gap-since-2012-idUKKBN1YO0XP
I wish to send all posters my best of wishes for this festive time and as we look forward to family and friends time, maybe leave politics on one side until 2020
Happy Christmas folks
Sarah Champion - MP for Rotheram
Rosie Cooper - MP for West Lancashire
Jon Cruddas - MP for Dagenham and Rainham
Emma Lewell-Buck - MP for South Shields
Grahame Morris - MP for Easington
Toby Perkins - MP for Chesterfield
A further 32 Labour MPs abstained in the vote - despite Jeremy Corbyn telling his party to vote against it.
They include three shadow cabinet members:
John Trickett - MP for Hewmsworth
Ian Lavery - MP for Wansbeck
Andrew Gwynne - MP for Denton and Reddish
Merry Christmas to all
But most people of normal intelligence - unless they're really trying to defend the claptrap - will also look at the language they use.
If there's a mutual agreement between countries to allow freedom of movement, and a politician chooses to characterise that as foreigners treating Britain "as if it’s part of their own country," it really shouldn't be too hard to see what they're up to.
Particularly when they've taken the diametrically opposite stance in the past when it's been to their political advantage.
Wimbledon and Kensington are going next time round with tactical confusion saving Chelsea and Cities.
And the remainder of nominally Tory London MPs have areas of outer London that don't really consider their area London at all ! (Ruislip, Orpington, Carshalton, Uxbridge)...
FOM means EU members can treat any other EU country as if it were part of their own. It was the reason we are leaving the EU and that Boris (or BJ if it keeps people happy) won a huge majority last week.
We have big problems as a country, including productivity that is lower than many advanced countries, affordable housing in the south, underperforming small towns in the north, a fraying Union and a massive and glaring generation gap. But we also have considerable strengths, and finally a Government with the power to address them, which is why I'm cautiously optimistic about the next decade. Happy Christmas.
If you actually cared about us being able to influence the rest of the world you would want us to be able to do so, not to add a little more weight to whatever France and Germany want to say.
www.trains.im
Got home on time yesterday before Victoria melted down, but on a small train following on from 2 cancellations, squashed in by a Chinese girl and her boyfriend, a short young lady with a brown fake fur coat whose tresses semi-merged with it and emphasised some rather fetching auburn highlights and who then somehow managed to do a bit of make up en route, a large hold bag from the airport with a Germanic blonde girl tending, which limited my rotation room, although she allowed me to hold on to her squashy neck pillow, which was sat on the bag, no other anchor point being available, the exceptionally bushy wagging tail of a guide dog, and a loud socialist pointy pencil type lady bemoaning the situation.
Disembarking required the rearrangement of stacking of 3 other bits of luggage in the aisle.
As TSE says, all this had become normal over the past 6 weeks, yet it has ramped up again.
It is massively worse than last May, and full and final meltdown feels imminent, - post-Christmas needs one hell of a reset else this will be big P Political.
It is very easy to throw a load of money at putting in a rail line, but that wouldn't help so much as successful adult reskilling, which Britain is terrible at. Of course that is a difficult issue to fix and takes a lot of work, but Boris doesn't have the attention span for it.
My guess, and it is a guess, is that he is (apart from being a self interested ego, take that as read) a one nation Tory who has climbed the top of the greasy pole in interesting times. Mr Meeks underestimates the depth of Boris's challenges. Being Boris his number one concern will be winning in 2023/4, and to do so in normal times you can only win from the Christian Democrat/Social Democrat centre.
If he wants - and he must - to keep and extend the northern non-Marxist ex Labour vote then he has in front of him a constituency of people (many are hard boiled men) who are hard to please and not so easily fooled. In Cumbria where I live four out its six constituencies are naturally Labour or marginal (Copeland, Workington, Carlisle, Barrow). At this moment 5 are Tory and one is wafer thin Lib Dem marginal. If this fact replicated across the north does not keep Boris honest, nothing will.
If he implements Labour policies of steering wealth and opportunity away from the affluent and towards them - great.
If, however, he panders to identity driven concerns - "giving them their country back" type stuff - then, no, that is not a good thing. That is not good at all.
Wonder what he WILL do?
Perhaps this is why Bercow is always so splenetic.