OK. That Johnson Love Actually Video. Park your personal opinions and respect the craft. That is *sensational* politics. Genuinely the best thing in this campaign. And to swing voters in a fuckton of seats that will pull on the heartstrings just as much as the boy on the hospital floor would the opposite way.
It actually made me a bit sick but then I’m a bloke who has never seen the film and yet is still voting Tory. Well it wasn’t enough to lose my vote at least! But yes CCHQ has done very well, compare to Jezza mean tweets which is an idea from a US chat show and you can see the different demographics they are gunning for.
I thought it was even more effing creepy than the original movie.
As I said down-thread, people that loathe Boris will loathe this times a million, Like you.
This is aimed at swing voters, doubters, and, especially, women. To make him look lonely and a bit vulnerable, but on our side. Meta-Churchillian.
It does that superbly. I wonder if they have been saving this for a really bad day of the campaign. Hence, today.
No, this is the backloading we've been promised coming into operation. Tory campaign's been a bit stiffer in the past few days and apparently their online spend is now going through the roof.
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
You are in Surrey and Broxtowe and no there are not those numbers in Grimsby, Workington, Vale of Clwyd etc. ]
Plus having spent the weekend campaigning in Chingford, Harlow and Enfield Southgate it is not as if we Tories are doing nothing either
How many points is this tedious rubbish worth? How many seats?
Tedious rubbish?
The NHS is on its knees. For the majority of people in this country it really really matters.
Thing is I've been told its on its knees my whole adult life. I honestly cannot tell if it is or not as a result.
Just as we've been told that the Evil Tories have been plotting to sell off the NHS since Fatcha. Who knows, at some point maybe they'll actually try, but why should people listen to the warnings? After all these years of the NHS staying stubbornly in public hands, the ceaseless wailings about collapse and privatisation have more than a hint of The Boy Who Cried Wolf to them.
There has been a lot of privatisation already, this thread outlines some of the problems this brings:
OK. That Johnson Love Actually Video. Park your personal opinions and respect the craft. That is *sensational* politics. Genuinely the best thing in this campaign. And to swing voters in a fuckton of seats that will pull on the heartstrings just as much as the boy on the hospital floor would the opposite way.
It actually made me a bit sick but then I’m a bloke who has never seen the film and yet is still voting Tory. Well it wasn’t enough to lose my vote at least! But yes CCHQ has done very well, compare to Jezza mean tweets which is an idea from a US chat show and you can see the different demographics they are gunning for.
I thought it was even more effing creepy than the original movie.
Have not seen the original effing movie (obviously more discerning than you 😉) but still laughed out loud (is that lol?).
Blimey any twit can flip a few cards. Even I could do it I reckon!
ALSO, the Love Actually "original" is itself a parody/hommage of the Bob Dylan vid.
So the Labour woman is claiming her parody of a parody is somehow the sacred version. It's Jeezophrenic stupidity to the BILLION
I don't think she is claiming that really. The 'Tanks.On.The.Lawn' comment is comically overblown, I think sincerely given the rest of her campaign, so is just seeking to get more viral clicks for her own video.
OK. That Johnson Love Actually Video. Park your personal opinions and respect the craft. That is *sensational* politics. Genuinely the best thing in this campaign. And to swing voters in a fuckton of seats that will pull on the heartstrings just as much as the boy on the hospital floor would the opposite way.
It actually made me a bit sick but then I’m a bloke who has never seen the film and yet is still voting Tory. Well it wasn’t enough to lose my vote at least! But yes CCHQ has done very well, compare to Jezza mean tweets which is an idea from a US chat show and you can see the different demographics they are gunning for.
I thought it was even more effing creepy than the original movie.
As I said down-thread, people that loathe Boris will loathe this times a million, Like you.
This is aimed at swing voters, doubters, and, especially, women. To make him look lonely and a bit vulnerable, but on our side. Meta-Churchillian.
It does that superbly. I wonder if they have been saving this for a really bad day of the campaign. Hence, today.
No, this is the backloading we've been promised coming into operation. Tory campaign's been a bit stiffer in the past few days and apparently their online spend is now going through the roof.
Fair enough. It's highly impressive.
It looks viral to me. 20,000 views in the last ten minutes.
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
As a non canvasser can a mass of people door knocking on a Monday night really be that beneficial, or will it be mainly posting leaflets? As a 9-5 worker I don’t think I’d want a conversation on my doorstep with an activist of any sort with the exception of a weekend afternoon.
In those sort of numbers it becomes a bit intimidating, I'd have thought. Flood the streets with Corbyn youth, get them knocking on doors. Meanwhile, the voters cower inside, watching Boris Actually.
Blimey any twit can flip a few cards. Even I could do it I reckon!
ALSO, the Love Actually "original" is itself a parody/hommage of the Bob Dylan vid.
So the Labour woman is claiming her parody of a parody is somehow the sacred version. It's Jeezophrenic stupidity to the BILLION
Get over yourself! She's not claiming her version is sacred, just that her idea of spoofing Love Actually has been copied by Boris (or rather by some twat in his team whio no doubt saw the RA-K version and thought let's get Boris doing this too).
Blimey any twit can flip a few cards. Even I could do it I reckon!
ALSO, the Love Actually "original" is itself a parody/hommage of the Bob Dylan vid.
So the Labour woman is claiming her parody of a parody is somehow the sacred version. It's Jeezophrenic stupidity to the BILLION
Get over yourself! She's not claiming her version is sacred, just that her idea of spoofing Love Actually has been copied by Boris (or rather by some twat in his team whio no doubt saw the RA-K version and thought let's get Boris doing this too).
"Twat"? This is clever. Perhaps that is why you call him or her a twat.
Gotta be honest as a Lib Dem the three updated constituency polls in London are really bad. Instead of squeezing the Labour vote we have gone backwards in two seats. Looks like the tactical voting message is not getting through. I am way out West so not involved in the London campaign but it does not look good for Thursday with probably only Richmond Park and just possibly Finchley & Golders Green in play.
F&GG will stay Tory by around 10% ... tribal Labour will get 15%, LD's mid 30s
Blimey any twit can flip a few cards. Even I could do it I reckon!
ALSO, the Love Actually "original" is itself a parody/hommage of the Bob Dylan vid.
So the Labour woman is claiming her parody of a parody is somehow the sacred version. It's Jeezophrenic stupidity to the BILLION
I don't think she is claiming that really. The 'Tanks.On.The.Lawn' comment is comically overblown, I think sincerely given the rest of her campaign, so is just seeking to get more viral clicks for her own video.
Truly, we are a long way from John Major standing on his milk crate
Blimey any twit can flip a few cards. Even I could do it I reckon!
ALSO, the Love Actually "original" is itself a parody/hommage of the Bob Dylan vid.
So the Labour woman is claiming her parody of a parody is somehow the sacred version. It's Jeezophrenic stupidity to the BILLION
Get over yourself! She's not claiming her version is sacred, just that her idea of spoofing Love Actually has been copied by Boris (or rather by some twat in his team whio no doubt saw the RA-K version and thought let's get Boris doing this too).
"Twat"? This is clever. Perhaps that is why you call him or her a twat.
You have an issue with 'twat'?! As a writer I'd have thought you'd know it has two meanings.
The Tories lied about an assault. I’m sure the Tories here will explain it away soon.
Wasn't that hour ago?
There it is. Just explain it away.
Some source lied, and it snowballed as people piled in. It's not the first time, it won't be the last, and you're a better person than I am to try and figure out who lies the most. As with with other lies, or 'mistakes', a lot of people will believe the falsehood even after correction.
Blimey any twit can flip a few cards. Even I could do it I reckon!
ALSO, the Love Actually "original" is itself a parody/hommage of the Bob Dylan vid.
So the Labour woman is claiming her parody of a parody is somehow the sacred version. It's Jeezophrenic stupidity to the BILLION
Get over yourself! She's not claiming her version is sacred, just that her idea of spoofing Love Actually has been copied by Boris (or rather by some twat in his team whio no doubt saw the RA-K version and thought let's get Boris doing this too).
"Twat"? This is clever. Perhaps that is why you call him or her a twat.
Isn't the difference the fact that he IS the Prime Minister and RA-K isn't?
How many points is this tedious rubbish worth? How many seats?
Tedious rubbish?
The NHS is on its knees. For the majority of people in this country it really really matters.
Thing is I've been told its on its knees my whole adult life. I honestly cannot tell if it is or not as a result.
Just as we've been told that the Evil Tories have been plotting to sell off the NHS since Fatcha. Who knows, at some point maybe they'll actually try, but why should people listen to the warnings? After all these years of the NHS staying stubbornly in public hands, the ceaseless wailings about collapse and privatisation have more than a hint of The Boy Who Cried Wolf to them.
There has been a lot of privatisation already, this thread outlines some of the problems this brings:
The only ad I have watched and it really is rather different and good.
If it’s the only one you have watched then how do you know that it is different?
Did you miss Corbyns one?
I have seen other ones from other elections :-)
Tbf it's not quite as bad as the killer 'Boris makes a cup of tea' video.
Well he didn't say anything until the end of this one, which improves it.
But actually I preferred that one, though I suspect most would not. It was cheesy, staged nonsense (though not badly done), but at least I learned which order he puts the milk in his tea, a crucial test for degeneracy.
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
You are in Surrey and Broxtowe and no there are not those numbers in Grimsby, Workington, Vale of Clwyd etc. ]
Plus having spent the weekend campaigning in Chingford, Harlow and Enfield Southgate it is not as if we Tories are doing nothing either
Not quite 700, but big numbers campaigning in Bury (more than 120m north of London).
Gotta be honest as a Lib Dem the three updated constituency polls in London are really bad. Instead of squeezing the Labour vote we have gone backwards in two seats. Looks like the tactical voting message is not getting through. I am way out West so not involved in the London campaign but it does not look good for Thursday with probably only Richmond Park and just possibly Finchley & Golders Green in play.
It's the Labour strategy in reverse - pitch to one side, banking on fear of the other/tribal loyalty to sustain the other side. (Yes, Labour are officially also for leave, but we know the party will put no effort into that).
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
You are in Surrey and Broxtowe and no there are not those numbers in Grimsby, Workington, Vale of Clwyd etc. ]
Plus having spent the weekend campaigning in Chingford, Harlow and Enfield Southgate it is not as if we Tories are doing nothing either
Not quite 700, but big numbers campaigning in Bury (more than 120m north of London).
Looks like the Telegraph are going to make an issue of it
Allison Pearson
So I have detailed explanation from paediatric nurses explaining why photo of child on the floor is “100% faked”. I will put in @Telegraph on Weds. Stage a photo. Cause outrage. Castigate people who doubt it for showing insufficient compassion. Jesus.
Looks like this is going to backfire spectacularly for Labour 😂
Except the hospital confirmed the situation at the hospital and apologized.
Kinnock, as a major theme, went around telling people Major could still win and that he only needed a few more seats to get a workable majority? Genuine question.
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
As a non canvasser can a mass of people door knocking on a Monday night really be that beneficial, or will it be mainly posting leaflets? As a 9-5 worker I don’t think I’d want a conversation on my doorstep with an activist of any sort with the exception of a weekend afternoon.
I'd tell one Labour canvasser to fuck off. Not sure I'd say the same to three or four never mind hundreds. Maybe that's the thinking?
Gotta be honest as a Lib Dem the three updated constituency polls in London are really bad. Instead of squeezing the Labour vote we have gone backwards in two seats. Looks like the tactical voting message is not getting through. I am way out West so not involved in the London campaign but it does not look good for Thursday with probably only Richmond Park and just possibly Finchley & Golders Green in play.
Bit late for the chap to be getting nerves about splitting the vote now. This is like Boris voting for MV3 after finally noticing it was Brext, aftering being told it a million times before.
How many points is this tedious rubbish worth? How many seats?
Tedious rubbish?
The NHS is on its knees. For the majority of people in this country it really really matters.
Thing is I've been told its on its knees my whole adult life. I honestly cannot tell if it is or not as a result.
Just as we've been told that the Evil Tories have been plotting to sell off the NHS since Fatcha. Who knows, at some point maybe they'll actually try, but why should people listen to the warnings? After all these years of the NHS staying stubbornly in public hands, the ceaseless wailings about collapse and privatisation have more than a hint of The Boy Who Cried Wolf to them.
There has been a lot of privatisation already, this thread outlines some of the problems this brings:
My son is being seen urgently tomorrow by a private hospital paid for by the NHS
Should he just wait for however long he would have had to wait without that option?
Personally, as they rang him today and arranged this for tomorrow I take this as a positive choice and gives me a positive view of the NHS.
I have done very nicely out of NHS out sourcing myself. I made £3750 in a weekend once doing NHS work for a private company. As a short term fix it works, but the problem of NHS out sourcing is not that it adds capacity, it is that it stops the building of permanent capacity.
Perhaps you need to think on why your local NHS hospital lacked the facilities to see your son in the first place, and whether outsourcing will postpone that nessecary capacity.
Outsourcing is the answer to the question, why when the NHS budget is at an all time high, are so many NHS Trusts so in debt? That is where the money is going.
My own hospital has cancelled all planned children's admissions because of bed pressures. Is the answer to lose that income to a private provider, and only run services that are run at a loss? No organisation can sustain that sort of financial loss for long.
What does standing firm effectively mean at this stage? His name will be on the ballot and presumably it's too late to produce and send round a constituency-wide leaflet? Better late than never, but not much better.
The genius of the Love Actually parody is that it has, predictably, annoyed lefties and Remainers so much they are retweeting it in their fury. See here:
Gotta be honest as a Lib Dem the three updated constituency polls in London are really bad. Instead of squeezing the Labour vote we have gone backwards in two seats. Looks like the tactical voting message is not getting through. I am way out West so not involved in the London campaign but it does not look good for Thursday with probably only Richmond Park and just possibly Finchley & Golders Green in play.
plus Esher and Wimbledon.
Esher's relatively safe now. Guildford, St Albans, Winchester and Cheltenham are the ones who'll be really close either way imo.
Blimey any twit can flip a few cards. Even I could do it I reckon!
ALSO, the Love Actually "original" is itself a parody/hommage of the Bob Dylan vid.
So the Labour woman is claiming her parody of a parody is somehow the sacred version. It's Jeezophrenic stupidity to the BILLION
I don't think she is claiming that really. The 'Tanks.On.The.Lawn' comment is comically overblown, I think sincerely given the rest of her campaign, so is just seeking to get more viral clicks for her own video.
Truly, we are a long way from John Major standing on his milk crate
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
As a non canvasser can a mass of people door knocking on a Monday night really be that beneficial, or will it be mainly posting leaflets? As a 9-5 worker I don’t think I’d want a conversation on my doorstep with an activist of any sort with the exception of a weekend afternoon.
In those sort of numbers it becomes a bit intimidating, I'd have thought. Flood the streets with Corbyn youth, get them knocking on doors. Meanwhile, the voters cower inside, watching Boris Actually.
My mother used to tell each candidate that she was voting for them, by far the fastest way to get rid of them.
The only ad I have watched and it really is rather different and good.
If it’s the only one you have watched then how do you know that it is different?
Did you miss Corbyns one?
I have seen other ones from other elections :-)
Tbf it's not quite as bad as the killer 'Boris makes a cup of tea' video.
Well he didn't say anything until the end of this one, which improves it.
But actually I preferred that one, though I suspect most would not. It was cheesy, staged nonsense (though not badly done), but at least I learned which order he puts the milk in his tea, a crucial test for degeneracy.
What I liked about that one is that it legitimised the action of not de-bagging the tea before you start drinking it: 'Doing a Boris'...
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
You are in Surrey and Broxtowe and no there are not those numbers in Grimsby, Workington, Vale of Clwyd etc. ]
Plus having spent the weekend campaigning in Chingford, Harlow and Enfield Southgate it is not as if we Tories are doing nothing either
Not quite 700, but big numbers campaigning in Bury (more than 120m north of London).
The Tories lied about an assault. I’m sure the Tories here will explain it away soon.
Put yourself in the position of that SPAD. You are walking along the road and you get cuffed. You and I know it wasn't a punch because we have seen the video. But how was the SPAD to know?
My suspicion is that the betting markets remain anchored to recent election results and are underestimating the probability of a big Conservative win (with lots of close results).
I'm not one for spread betting, but I managed to get a bet on at 15.0 on Betfair for a Tory majority of 100-124. Given the YouGov MRP has a majority of 68, it felt like good odds for if the Tories win an additional 16 seats or so.
How many points is this tedious rubbish worth? How many seats?
Tedious rubbish?
The NHS is on its knees. For the majority of people in this country it really really matters.
Thing is I've been told its on its knees my whole adult life. I honestly cannot tell if it is or not as a result.
Just as we've been told that the Evil Tories have been plotting to sell off the NHS since Fatcha. Who knows, at some point maybe they'll actually try, but why should people listen to the warnings? After all these years of the NHS staying stubbornly in public hands, the ceaseless wailings about collapse and privatisation have more than a hint of The Boy Who Cried Wolf to them.
There has been a lot of privatisation already, this thread outlines some of the problems this brings:
My son is being seen urgently tomorrow by a private hospital paid for by the NHS
Should he just wait for however long he would have had to wait without that option?
Personally, as they rang him today and arranged this for tomorrow I take this as a positive choice and gives me a positive view of the NHS.
I have done very nicely out of NHS out sourcing myself. I made £3750 in a weekend once doing NHS work for a private company. As a short term fix it works, but the problem of NHS out sourcing is not that it adds capacity, it is that it stops the building of permanent capacity.
Perhaps you need to think on why your local NHS hospital lacked the facilities to see your son in the first place, and whether outsourcing will postpone that nessecary capacity.
Outsourcing is the answer to the question, why when the NHS budget is at an all time high, are so many NHS Trusts so in debt? That is where the money is going.
My own hospital has cancelled all planned children's admissions because of bed pressures. Is the answer to lose that income to a private provider, and only run services that are run at a loss? No organisation can sustain that sort of financial loss for long.
So there's enough money but it's being misallocated?
I am on a train. The people behind me looking over my shoulder do not know him. Neither do I. I am pretty certain I would have remembered those curtains.
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
You are in Surrey and Broxtowe and no there are not those numbers in Grimsby, Workington, Vale of Clwyd etc. ]
Plus having spent the weekend campaigning in Chingford, Harlow and Enfield Southgate it is not as if we Tories are doing nothing either
Not quite 700, but big numbers campaigning in Bury (more than 120m north of London).
What does standing firm effectively mean at this stage? His name will be on the ballot and presumably it's too late to produce and send round a constituency-wide leaflet? Better late than never, but not much better.
The Tories lied about an assault. I’m sure the Tories here will explain it away soon.
Put yourself in the position of that SPAD. You are walking along the road and you get cuffed. You and I know it wasn't a punch because we have seen the video. But how was the SPAD to know?
I am on a train. The people behind me looking over my shoulder do not know him. Neither do I. I am pretty certain I would have remembered those curtains.
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
You are in Surrey and Broxtowe and no there are not those numbers in Grimsby, Workington, Vale of Clwyd etc. ]
Plus having spent the weekend campaigning in Chingford, Harlow and Enfield Southgate it is not as if we Tories are doing nothing either
Not quite 700, but big numbers campaigning in Bury (more than 120m north of London).
The Tories lied about an assault. I’m sure the Tories here will explain it away soon.
Put yourself in the position of that SPAD. You are walking along the road and you get cuffed. You and I know it wasn't a punch because we have seen the video. But how was the SPAD to know?
Evening Toppo
Any inside info as to how things are going ?
Evening old bean. Not from me. As I said last time information one way or another could be ammunition for the wrong side.
No, just ensuring immigrants are treated the same as everyone else, a points system instead of free movement for everyone.
Literally none of that sentence reflects reality. Immigrants are not and will not be treated “the same” as U.K. nationals, we already have a points system and there is not has never been and likely will never been, free movement “for everyone”.
The genius of the Love Actually parody is that it has, predictably, annoyed lefties and Remainers so much they are retweeting it in their fury. See here:
Gotta be honest as a Lib Dem the three updated constituency polls in London are really bad. Instead of squeezing the Labour vote we have gone backwards in two seats. Looks like the tactical voting message is not getting through. I am way out West so not involved in the London campaign but it does not look good for Thursday with probably only Richmond Park and just possibly Finchley & Golders Green in play.
From what I hear the LibDems are rather less confident of Hallam than they should be.
The genius of the Love Actually parody is that it has, predictably, annoyed lefties and Remainers so much they are retweeting it in their fury. See here:
Do they not, actually, understand how social media works?!
Remainers, lefties AND fans of Love Actually. Actually, I'm trying to not make politics any worse by sticking to a policy of not taking pleasure in the discomforts of those with whom I disagree politically. No matter how pompous. We all have our reasons for the political views we have formed. A plurality of opinions is healthy. But someone calling Love Actually their favourite film is a real pineapple-on-a-pizza moment. She is just wrong.
How many points is this tedious rubbish worth? How many seats?
Tedious rubbish?
The NHS is on its knees. For the majority of people in this country it really really matters.
Thing is I've been told its on its knees my whole adult life. I honestly cannot tell if it is or not as a result.
Just as we've been told that the Evil Tories have been plotting to sell off the NHS since Fatcha. Who knows, at some point maybe they'll actually try, but why should people listen to the warnings? After all these years of the NHS staying stubbornly in public hands, the ceaseless wailings about collapse and privatisation have more than a hint of The Boy Who Cried Wolf to them.
There has been a lot of privatisation already, this thread outlines some of the problems this brings:
My son is being seen urgently tomorrow by a private hospital paid for by the NHS
Should he just wait for however long he would have had to wait without that option?
Personally, as they rang him today and arranged this for tomorrow I take this as a positive choice and gives me a positive view of the NHS.
I have done very nicely out of NHS out sourcing myself. I made £3750 in a weekend once doing NHS work for a private company. As a short term fix it works, but the problem of NHS out sourcing is not that it adds capacity, it is that it stops the building of permanent capacity.
Perhaps you need to think on why your local NHS hospital lacked the facilities to see your son in the first place, and whether outsourcing will postpone that nessecary capacity.
Outsourcing is the answer to the question, why when the NHS budget is at an all time high, are so many NHS Trusts so in debt? That is where the money is going.
My own hospital has cancelled all planned children's admissions because of bed pressures. Is the answer to lose that income to a private provider, and only run services that are run at a loss? No organisation can sustain that sort of financial loss for long.
So there's enough money but it's being misallocated?
Some of the money is certainly misallocated, but I have never argued that the problems of the NHS are purely, or even predominantly financial.
How many points is this tedious rubbish worth? How many seats?
Tedious rubbish?
The NHS is on its knees. For the majority of people in this country it really really matters.
Thing is I've been told its on its knees my whole adult life. I honestly cannot tell if it is or not as a result.
Just as we've been told that the Evil Tories have been plotting to sell off the NHS since Fatcha. Who knows, at some point maybe they'll actually try, but why should people listen to the warnings? After all these years of the NHS staying stubbornly in public hands, the ceaseless wailings about collapse and privatisation have more than a hint of The Boy Who Cried Wolf to them.
There has been a lot of privatisation already, this thread outlines some of the problems this brings:
My son is being seen urgently tomorrow by a private hospital paid for by the NHS
Should he just wait for however long he would have had to wait without that option?
Personally, as they rang him today and arranged this for tomorrow I take this as a positive choice and gives me a positive view of the NHS.
I have done very nicely out of NHS out sourcing myself. I made £3750 in a weekend once doing NHS work for a private company. As a short term fix it works, but the problem of NHS out sourcing is not that it adds capacity, it is that it stops the building of permanent capacity.
Perhaps you need to think on why your local NHS hospital lacked the facilities to see your son in the first place, and whether outsourcing will postpone that nessecary capacity.
Outsourcing is the answer to the question, why when the NHS budget is at an all time high, are so many NHS Trusts so in debt? That is where the money is going.
My own hospital has cancelled all planned children's admissions because of bed pressures. Is the answer to lose that income to a private provider, and only run services that are run at a loss? No organisation can sustain that sort of financial loss for long.
There are 65,000 electors in Putney, most of whom probably will not take too kindly to their street being flooded with Momentum activists when they are cooking the dinner
True. But it is an impressive turnout. Is there a record for this type of thing?
Most of this Momentum activity is in London, it is the likes of Grimsby, Bolsover, Vale of Clwyd and other Labour Leave seats north of Watford Labour really needs to be in at the moment en masse to prevent a Tory majority given current polls, not targeting a handful of Tory held London seats
I'm 120 miles north of London. I've never seen a turnout of Labour helpers in my life. Not saying that it'll make a difference, but it's quite extraordinary, and I'm aware of similar numbers being flung at the red wall seats.
As a non canvasser can a mass of people door knocking on a Monday night really be that beneficial, or will it be mainly posting leaflets? As a 9-5 worker I don’t think I’d want a conversation on my doorstep with an activist of any sort with the exception of a weekend afternoon.
In those sort of numbers it becomes a bit intimidating, I'd have thought. Flood the streets with Corbyn youth, get them knocking on doors. Meanwhile, the voters cower inside, watching Boris Actually.
My mother used to tell each candidate that she was voting for them, by far the fastest way to get rid of them.
If you do that you have to make sure you vote during the day, and show your card to the tellers, or you may have them all back again on Election Day.
So there's enough money but it's being misallocated?
It always used to be the case that the NHS was delivered on the cheap, but it's not quite the case now. We're above the OECD average now, and spending something like 25% more than Spain, which has a very well-regarded system. Same as New Zealand, or Finland, for example. Still admittedly nowhere near the likes of France (+33%ish).
At some stage surely the govt starts to look at a major reorganisation. There are plenty of different countries out there to learn from.
What does standing firm effectively mean at this stage? His name will be on the ballot and presumably it's too late to produce and send round a constituency-wide leaflet? Better late than never, but not much better.
Sorry, that should read 'standing down'.
Basically, it means exactly what you say. Some people will already have voted for him by post. Others won’t hear about this and will vote for him on Thursday.
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So the Labour woman is claiming her parody of a parody is somehow the sacred version. It's Jeezophrenic stupidity to the BILLION
Plus having spent the weekend campaigning in Chingford, Harlow and Enfield Southgate it is not as if we Tories are doing nothing either
Should he just wait for however long he would have had to wait without that option?
Personally, as they rang him today and arranged this for tomorrow I take this as a positive choice and gives me a positive view of the NHS.
It looks viral to me. 20,000 views in the last ten minutes.
Don't follow leaders, watch the parkin' meters...
More or less....
https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1204139906773204992?s=19
And how much of the average hospital's budget is a result of Labour's massive PFI privatization? 25% in some hospitals.
Tbf it's not quite as bad as the killer 'Boris makes a cup of tea' video.
But actually I preferred that one, though I suspect most would not. It was cheesy, staged nonsense (though not badly done), but at least I learned which order he puts the milk in his tea, a crucial test for degeneracy.
https://twitter.com/Lucy4BurySouth/status/1203368440708423681
We can be sure Joe would loathe Boris, but how would Elvis feel about Trump?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7774035/Brexit-Party-election-candidate-vows-stand-avoid-splitting-Leave-vote.html
https://twitter.com/happyharrymedia/status/1204148621958164482?s=21
2/1 = 33% chance
With just 2 campaigning dats to go, I'd say it was all over bar the shouting wouldn't you?
Perhaps you need to think on why your local NHS hospital lacked the facilities to see your son in the first place, and whether outsourcing will postpone that nessecary capacity.
Outsourcing is the answer to the question, why when the NHS budget is at an all time high, are so many NHS Trusts so in debt? That is where the money is going.
My own hospital has cancelled all planned children's admissions because of bed pressures. Is the answer to lose that income to a private provider, and only run services that are run at a loss? No organisation can sustain that sort of financial loss for long.
Why would it give a higher Labour figure.
Surely it would result in a higher Brexit figure.
https://twitter.com/HannahAlOthman/status/1204178587009605632?s=20
Do they not, actually, understand how social media works?!
While such care is suboptimal, keeping the child in an area with oxygen and clinical monitoring is probably better than the alternative.
My mother used to tell each candidate that she was voting for them, by far the fastest way to get rid of them.
I'm not one for spread betting, but I managed to get a bet on at 15.0 on Betfair for a Tory majority of 100-124. Given the YouGov MRP has a majority of 68, it felt like good odds for if the Tories win an additional 16 seats or so.
(PS I hope I'm very wrong!)
Any inside info as to how things are going ?
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mary-anne-marsh-advantage-warren-in-latest-tussle-with-buttigieg-heres-how-she-did-it
You are always travelling home late on a train.
And you?
Actually, I'm trying to not make politics any worse by sticking to a policy of not taking pleasure in the discomforts of those with whom I disagree politically. No matter how pompous. We all have our reasons for the political views we have formed. A plurality of opinions is healthy. But someone calling Love Actually their favourite film is a real pineapple-on-a-pizza moment. She is just wrong.
At some stage surely the govt starts to look at a major reorganisation. There are plenty of different countries out there to learn from.