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Tory source says better take the hit for ?than take the risk of @afneil. Happy Days! https://t.co/Xw7aWICrQp

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  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,102
    Would be a massive tactical error
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,966
    Johnson should do the interview. If he doesn't, that'll be a story that runs and runs to Corbyn's advantage. If he does, he can't do worse than Corbyn did.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Johnson is a self-interested liar and a political coward. Of course he’ll run away from Andrew Neil if he can. Avoiding detailed scrutiny is what he’s done his entire political life.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,344
    edited November 2019
    SouthamObserver said:

    Johnson is a self-interested liar and a political coward. Of course he’ll run away from Andrew Neil if he can. Avoiding detailed scrutiny is what he’s done his entire political life.

    "A pyramid of inverted piffle!"

    EDIT Or was it "an inverted pyramid of piffle"? :lol:
  • novanova Posts: 885
    Essexit said:

    Johnson should do the interview. If he doesn't, that'll be a story that runs and runs to Corbyn's advantage. If he does, he can't do worse than Corbyn did.

    The big difference is that Boris will still be appearing in a head to head with Corbyn, I think skipping that would cut through to the public, but not sure missing an interview with Andrew Neil would. Most people probably don't know who he is.
  • roserees64roserees64 Posts: 251
    Johnson needs to find a really good reason not to do the Neil interview otherwise even if he becomes PM he would forever be accused of being weak in stressful moments.

    He would be a lame duck premier before he has even started.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited November 2019
    First tweet is a guy talking shit so don't panic.

    https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1199746091673145344?s=19

    https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/1199753538529837058?s=19

    https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/1199754355211145217?s=19
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,578
    Essexit said:

    Johnson should do the interview. If he doesn't, that'll be a story that runs and runs to Corbyn's advantage. If he does, he can't do worse than Corbyn did.

    Yup. Although he might do as badly.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,630
    Alistair said:

    First tweet is a guy talking shit so don't panic.

    https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1199746091673145344?s=19

    https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/1199753538529837058?s=19

    https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/1199754355211145217?s=19

    People need to brush up on their popular references. ;)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,578
    roserees64 said:

    Johnson needs to find a really good reason not to do the Neil interview otherwise even if he becomes PM he would forever be accused of being weak in stressful moments.

    He would be a lame duck premier before he has even started.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, he IS the fecking PM.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,107
    edited November 2019
    Where is the fun in that? What a spoilsport. :disappointed:
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,065
    Boris Johnson doesn't have a history of pulling out does he?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,630
    ydoethur said:

    roserees64 said:

    Johnson needs to find a really good reason not to do the Neil interview otherwise even if he becomes PM he would forever be accused of being weak in stressful moments.

    He would be a lame duck premier before he has even started.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, he IS the fecking PM.
    Not in parallel universe fantasy Corbynista land.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,578
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Boris Johnson doesn't have a history of pulling out does he?

    No, but he aborts freely.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,399
    Would be a tactical error like May not going to the debates.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Another problem for Johnson is that as he prevaricates, time ticks away. If it went badly, it'd be much closer in voters' minds on election day.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Tory majority under 1.4 for first time this campaign and probably since June 2017 to be honest!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,578
    Jonathan said:

    Where is the fun in that? What a spoilsport. :disappointed:

    I was actually quite looking forward to watching Andrew Neil tear him a new one.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Andrew said:

    Another problem for Johnson is that as he prevaricates, time ticks away. If it went badly, it'd be much closer in voters' minds on election day.

    But on the plus side if it does go ahead next Tuesday a few million postal votes have already been sent.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,102
    RobD said:

    Alistair said:

    First tweet is a guy talking shit so don't panic.

    https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1199746091673145344?s=19

    https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/1199753538529837058?s=19

    https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/1199754355211145217?s=19

    People need to brush up on their popular references. ;)
    Theres people on here still not getting that it was a joke tweet despite us referring to the show and characters repeatedly!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,630
    Brom said:

    Tory majority under 1.4 for first time this campaign and probably since June 2017 to be honest!

    How was this post off topic? :o
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 2,052
    Brom said:

    Tory majority under 1.4 for first time this campaign and probably since June 2017 to be honest!

    "to be honest!"
    Are you 14?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,538
    Curse of the new thread!
    Well, that was a fun and fascinating day. Drove Carrie Symonds and Dilyn about the South Hams. They had a drink with half a dozen canvassers and the candidate. Some fascinating bits of gossip that would be very indiscreet to share.
    However, people might like to know that Dilyn loves to shred paper into tiny bits. And he gets given Dominic Cummins' hate mail to savage!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,102
    Brom said:

    Tory majority under 1.4 for first time this campaign and probably since June 2017 to be honest!

    It went under 1.4 just before MondayICMpantshitgate so that means MRP must be gash for Boris
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 33,392
    edited November 2019
    ydoethur said:

    Essexit said:

    Johnson should do the interview. If he doesn't, that'll be a story that runs and runs to Corbyn's advantage. If he does, he can't do worse than Corbyn did.

    Yup. Although he might do as badly.
    Johnson could be even worse than Corbyn! Hard act to follow, granted, but Boris has it in him to implode.
    He is absolutely right to tell the BBC to get stuffed. He can argue that what he views as his sublime performance on QT and his victory over Corbyn during the ITV interview means he has nothing more to prove, and wasn't Corbyn a disaster at the hands of Neil.
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,966
    ydoethur said:

    Essexit said:

    Johnson should do the interview. If he doesn't, that'll be a story that runs and runs to Corbyn's advantage. If he does, he can't do worse than Corbyn did.

    Yup. Although he might do as badly.
    If he's asked about Islamophobia he can be humble and apologise, allowing the conversation to move on. He also won't be trying to argue that we can nationalise utilities without increasing the national debt. It's difficult to see how he'll do as badly.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,538
    The Jo Swinson debate with AN has not yet been confirmed either, I am led to believe....
  • JamesPJamesP Posts: 85
    Brom said:

    Tory majority under 1.4 for first time this campaign and probably since June 2017 to be honest!

    It actually touched 1.39 just before ICM
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Buffoon used to get Paxo diverted and all jolly together but Neil is another level... would have thought better to get it over with rather than too close to the 12th.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,627
    Dadge said:

    Brom said:

    Tory majority under 1.4 for first time this campaign and probably since June 2017 to be honest!

    "to be honest!"
    Are you 14?
    What's the issue with tbh?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,757
    MarqueeMark said:

    The Jo Swinson debate with AN has not yet been confirmed either, I am led to believe....

    I’d be disappointed if she didn’t do it.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Boris Johnson has no upside in doing this. He can fairly point to the fact that he’s doing debates. And the chances of him coming through unscathed from an Andrew Neil interview where the interviewer did not pull his punches are low.

    The BBC have questions to answer. It appears that they actively misled Labour. That’s unforgivable if true.
  • TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,683
    Boulton might have the courage to admit that no-one runs away from interviews with him!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,578
    MarqueeMark said:

    Curse of the new thread!
    Well, that was a fun and fascinating day. Drove Carrie Symonds and Dilyn about the South Hams. They had a drink with half a dozen canvassers and the candidate. Some fascinating bits of gossip that would be very indiscreet to share.
    However, people might like to know that Dilyn loves to shred paper into tiny bits. And he gets given Dominic Cummins' hate mail to savage!

    What, all of it?
    How long does it take to shred it all? Five years a day?
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,927
    MarqueeMark said:

    Curse of the new thread!
    Well, that was a fun and fascinating day. Drove Carrie Symonds and Dilyn about the South Hams. They had a drink with half a dozen canvassers and the candidate. Some fascinating bits of gossip that would be very indiscreet to share.
    However, people might like to know that Dilyn loves to shred paper into tiny bits. And he gets given Dominic Cummins' hate mail to savage!

    Carrie's Twitter account is superb if one likes looking at photos of cute dogs. Dilyn's been out canvassing the length and breadth of the country.
  • TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,683
    MarqueeMark said:

    Curse of the new thread!
    Well, that was a fun and fascinating day. Drove Carrie Symonds and Dilyn about the South Hams. They had a drink with half a dozen canvassers and the candidate. Some fascinating bits of gossip that would be very indiscreet to share.
    However, people might like to know that Dilyn loves to shred paper into tiny bits. And he gets given Dominic Cummins' hate mail to savage!

    Didn't they meet voters? Isn't that the point of campaigning?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,538
    Gallowgate said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    The Jo Swinson debate with AN has not yet been confirmed either, I am led to believe....

    I’d be disappointed if she didn’t do it.
    Bizarre that Corbyn did it before confirmation that two other leaders were locked into the schedules. I bet his people have suffered a hard stare for that.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,344
    RobD said:

    Brom said:

    Tory majority under 1.4 for first time this campaign and probably since June 2017 to be honest!

    How was this post off topic? :o
    It's not off-topic!
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,107
    edited November 2019
    Maybe Corbyn should have another crack with Neil and take Boris' slot.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,018
    AlastairMeeks said:

    Boris Johnson has no upside in doing this. He can fairly point to the fact that he’s doing debates. And the chances of him coming through unscathed from an Andrew Neil interview where the interviewer did not pull his punches are low.
    The BBC have questions to answer. It appears that they actively misled Labour. That’s unforgivable if true.

    Difficult one, really you want them all turning up together to do their interviews one after the other. If you go first, there's always the danger the others won't turn up.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,784
    AlastairMeeks said:

    Boris Johnson has no upside in doing this. He can fairly point to the fact that he’s doing debates. And the chances of him coming through unscathed from an Andrew Neil interview where the interviewer did not pull his punches are low.

    The BBC have questions to answer. It appears that they actively misled Labour. That’s unforgivable if true.

    They also failed to invite Jo Swinson to the debate on 6th December. Am I the only one that thinks this is wrong?
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,905
    Brillo giving Barry Gardiner a light dusting up on BBC2, if you like that sort of thing.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,852
    MarqueeMark said:

    The Jo Swinson debate with AN has not yet been confirmed either, I am led to believe....

    She would be mad not to do it. All publicity, etc.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,538
    edited November 2019
    TudorRose said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Curse of the new thread!
    Well, that was a fun and fascinating day. Drove Carrie Symonds and Dilyn about the South Hams. They had a drink with half a dozen canvassers and the candidate. Some fascinating bits of gossip that would be very indiscreet to share.
    However, people might like to know that Dilyn loves to shred paper into tiny bits. And he gets given Dominic Cummins' hate mail to savage!

    Didn't they meet voters? Isn't that the point of campaigning?
    Yes, they met voters. They were fine. A bit softball, considering we were in a rather beautful bit of the constituency and not amidst the social housing.
    It's not always so. Carrie did tell me that some people have said very rude things to her about Boris. Before they know who she is....
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 33,392
    AlastairMeeks said:

    Boris Johnson has no upside in doing this. He can fairly point to the fact that he’s doing debates. And the chances of him coming through unscathed from an Andrew Neil interview where the interviewer did not pull his punches are low.

    The BBC have questions to answer. It appears that they actively misled Labour. That’s unforgivable if true.

    The BBC this election have been lamentable in their treatment of Johnson, not only has he been given a free ride at every opportunity, but reports have been doctored (big style) in his favour.
    Mind you the BBC shafting Corbyn is something to savour, even if Johnson is the beneficiary.
  • SunnyJimSunnyJim Posts: 1,106
    There will be no traction with the public on Boris not being able to schedule in an interview...if he'd skipped the debates then yes, it would have been a story.

    As it is there is just fury from the left that their man has been humiliated and their hopes of it being repeated on the PM have been dashed.

    File under 'sour grapes'.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,344
    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Brillo giving Barry Gardiner a light dusting up on BBC2, if you like that sort of thing.

    Ooo-er, Missus :lol:
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,719
    Would certainly be in character, but also utterly pathetic.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Is there a poll out later tonight?

    Personally I have no interest in such polls and certainly won't be on here posting about it.

    We all know that there is only one poll which counts and that of course is that conducted by Mr Curtice on 12 December!

    PS what time is it out tonight? :lol:
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 33,392
    edited November 2019
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    Boris Johnson has no upside in doing this. He can fairly point to the fact that he’s doing debates. And the chances of him coming through unscathed from an Andrew Neil interview where the interviewer did not pull his punches are low.

    The BBC have questions to answer. It appears that they actively misled Labour. That’s unforgivable if true.

    They also failed to invite Jo Swinson to the debate on 6th December. Am I the only one that thinks this is wrong?
    No, but they might have a rethink when it looks like Boris is a no-show.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,538
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    Boris Johnson has no upside in doing this. He can fairly point to the fact that he’s doing debates. And the chances of him coming through unscathed from an Andrew Neil interview where the interviewer did not pull his punches are low.

    The BBC have questions to answer. It appears that they actively misled Labour. That’s unforgivable if true.

    They also failed to invite Jo Swinson to the debate on 6th December. Am I the only one that thinks this is wrong?
    Probably.
  • spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,577
    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Brillo giving Barry Gardiner a light dusting up on BBC2, if you like that sort of thing.

    taking apart the ludicrous position of the labour party on the talks about talks with the USA over a trade deal
  • brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited November 2019
    "Labour’s massive leaflet mix-up"
    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/labours-massive-leaflet-mix-up/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,578
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Brillo giving Barry Gardiner a light dusting up on BBC2, if you like that sort of thing.

    Ooo-er, Missus :lol:
    Some people have disgusting minds.
    Thank goodness mine is pure and unsullied.
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,905
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Brillo giving Barry Gardiner a light dusting up on BBC2, if you like that sort of thing.

    Ooo-er, Missus :lol:
    He's brandishing his dossier, Sunil. You love to see it.
  • alb1onalb1on Posts: 698
    The obvious reason for Boris skipping AN is the difficulty fitting it in between the visits to the mistresses and the STD clinic. I was amazed to see him down in Cornwall today and can only suggest the media check on who was at their holiday home in Rock.
  • Marcus01Marcus01 Posts: 42
    The dynamics couldn't be more different to May in '17. Boris Johnson has nothing to gain by doing Andrew Neil most of the people who would change their mind have already made their mind up.
  • NorthCadbollNorthCadboll Posts: 332
    Andrew Neil establishing that Barry Gardiner and Jeremy Corbyn are duplicitous liars re the HNS claims this morning. Andrew Neil points out these minutes are no more than scoping talks.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    MarqueeMark said:

    The Jo Swinson debate with AN has not yet been confirmed either, I am led to believe....

    I think Jo is having her hair done that night!
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,322
    MarqueeMark said:

    Gallowgate said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    The Jo Swinson debate with AN has not yet been confirmed either, I am led to believe....

    I’d be disappointed if she didn’t do it.
    Bizarre that Corbyn did it before confirmation that two other leaders were locked into the schedules. I bet his people have suffered a hard stare for that.
    Wonder if some of his potential successors implied it would be a great idea to be grilled by Andrew Neil.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,538
    The other thing of note today on the doorsteps was the change in the Tory vote. Possibles heading to probables, probables to rock solid Conservative.

    Corbyn.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,757
    MarqueeMark said:

    The other thing of note today on the doorsteps was the change in the Tory vote. Possibles heading to probables, probables to rock solid Conservative.

    Corbyn.

    We’ll see if YouGov agrees.
  • alb1onalb1on Posts: 698
    MarqueeMark said:

    TudorRose said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Curse of the new thread!
    Well, that was a fun and fascinating day. Drove Carrie Symonds and Dilyn about the South Hams. They had a drink with half a dozen canvassers and the candidate. Some fascinating bits of gossip that would be very indiscreet to share.
    However, people might like to know that Dilyn loves to shred paper into tiny bits. And he gets given Dominic Cummins' hate mail to savage!

    Didn't they meet voters? Isn't that the point of campaigning?
    Yes, they met voters. They were fine. A bit softball, considering we were in a rather beautful bit of the constituency and not amidst the social housing.
    It's not always so. Carrie did tell me that some people have said very rude things to her about Boris. Before they know who she is....
    She should have told David Cameron who she is before talking to him.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,344
    MarqueeMark said:

    The other thing of note today on the doorsteps was the change in the Tory vote. Possibles heading to probables, probables to rock solid Conservative.

    Corbyn.

    "Naught but Counter-Revolutionary Trotskyite-Fascist Propaganda!" :lol:
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,630
    Gallowgate said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    The other thing of note today on the doorsteps was the change in the Tory vote. Possibles heading to probables, probables to rock solid Conservative.

    Corbyn.

    We’ll see if YouGov agrees.
    Hallowed be thy name.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,942
    edited November 2019
    Why the hell don't all of these people tweeting about the YouGov MRP just shut the hell up for three hours and let YouGov reveal their findings themselves?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    AlastairMeeks said:

    Boris Johnson has no upside in doing this. He can fairly point to the fact that he’s doing debates. And the chances of him coming through unscathed from an Andrew Neil interview where the interviewer did not pull his punches are low.

    The BBC have questions to answer. It appears that they actively misled Labour. That’s unforgivable if true.

    Rob Burley currently drafting his sanctimonious "Oh we just made another error that could have happened to anyone that just so happened to be beneficial for the Conservatives again" tweet even as we speak.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    MarqueeMark said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    Boris Johnson has no upside in doing this. He can fairly point to the fact that he’s doing debates. And the chances of him coming through unscathed from an Andrew Neil interview where the interviewer did not pull his punches are low.

    The BBC have questions to answer. It appears that they actively misled Labour. That’s unforgivable if true.

    They also failed to invite Jo Swinson to the debate on 6th December. Am I the only one that thinks this is wrong?
    Probably.
    Well you wouldn’t even allow lib dems to stand unless it was expressly forbidden to vote for them. I do have a historical story about a boat trip with David steel and Shirley Williams along the Thames a long time ago, no scandal but Shirley was a genuine warm human being.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,538
    brokenwheel said:

    "Labour’s massive leaflet mix-up"
    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/labours-massive-leaflet-mix-up/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    A monumental Lewell-Buck-up......
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,102
    Ave_it said:

    Is there a poll out later tonight?

    Personally I have no interest in such polls and certainly won't be on here posting about it.

    We all know that there is only one poll which counts and that of course is that conducted by Mr Curtice on 12 December!

    PS what time is it out tonight? :lol:

    Victoria Pendleton is presenting a seat by seat guide from the saddle at 10pm
    Or, 10 pm to answer your q
  • brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    GIN1138 said:

    Why the hell don't all of these people tweeting about the YouGiv MRP just shut the hell up for three hours and let YouGiv reveal their findings themselves?

    Where's the fun in that?!
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,711
    Will this YouGov model be updated every day like in the last election .
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,719
    SunnyJim said:

    There will be no traction with the public on Boris not being able to schedule in an interview...if he'd skipped the debates then yes, it would have been a story.

    As it is there is just fury from the left that their man has been humiliated and their hopes of it being repeated on the PM have been dashed.

    File under 'sour grapes'.

    Bollocks. How can he expect to be prime minister if he can't answer a few questions from a journalist? The sense of entitlement is disgusting. Not to mention the cowardice.
  • alb1onalb1on Posts: 698
    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Brillo giving Barry Gardiner a light dusting up on BBC2, if you like that sort of thing.

    A bit like Tyson Fury beating up Julian Clary.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,578
    Wow.
    This is pretty bad tempered.
    Both Gardiner and Neil accusing each other of lying.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,757
    nico67 said:

    Will this YouGov model be updated every day like in the last election .

    I believe not.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,329
    GIN1138 said:

    Why the hell don't all of these people tweeting about the YouGiv MRP just shut the hell up for three hours and let YouGiv reveal their findings themselves?

    I doubt all the journos present have managed to keep their gobs shut. I have to say I am surprised YouGov were ok with people taking photos of the slides.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Gallowgate said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    The Jo Swinson debate with AN has not yet been confirmed either, I am led to believe....

    I’d be disappointed if she didn’t do it.
    🥰
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    KentRising said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Curse of the new thread!
    Well, that was a fun and fascinating day. Drove Carrie Symonds and Dilyn about the South Hams. They had a drink with half a dozen canvassers and the candidate. Some fascinating bits of gossip that would be very indiscreet to share.
    However, people might like to know that Dilyn loves to shred paper into tiny bits. And he gets given Dominic Cummins' hate mail to savage!

    Carrie's Twitter account is superb if one likes looking at photos of cute dogs. Dilyn's been out canvassing the length and breadth of the country.
    Canvassing for cute dogs?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,898
    I’d love to tease people with secret information too.

    But, I know absolutely jack all.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,578
    It is bizarre that Gardiner believes NHS=pharmaceutical industry.
    If he does, of course.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,329
    alb1on said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Brillo giving Barry Gardiner a light dusting up on BBC2, if you like that sort of thing.

    A bit like Tyson Fury beating up Julian Clary.
    Is that the next WWE match?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,486
    NorthCadboll said:

    Andrew Neil establishing that Barry Gardiner and Jeremy Corbyn are duplicitous liars re the HNS claims this morning. Andrew Neil points out these minutes are no more than scoping talks.

    Barry Gardiner is one of the few politicians that can make Boris Johnson look like a paragon of honesty.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,102
    ydoethur said:

    Wow.
    This is pretty bad tempered.
    Both Gardiner and Neil accusing each other of lying.

    Gardiner has a taste for blood having shouted at that Jewish journalist this morning
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,538
    dr_spyn said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Gallowgate said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    The Jo Swinson debate with AN has not yet been confirmed either, I am led to believe....

    I’d be disappointed if she didn’t do it.
    Bizarre that Corbyn did it before confirmation that two other leaders were locked into the schedules. I bet his people have suffered a hard stare for that.
    Wonder if some of his potential successors implied it would be a great idea to be grilled by Andrew Neil.
    Grilled? He was grilled, griddled, barbequed, roasted, boiled, broiled, sautéd, fricasseed.
    And then flambéed.
  • spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,577
    ydoethur said:

    Wow.
    This is pretty bad tempered.
    Both Gardiner and Neil accusing each other of lying.

    Gardener still not answering the question. I'm beginning to believe that none of the front line Labour MPs are up to the job...
    When is Andrew Neill interviewing Diane Abbott?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,329
    ydoethur said:

    Wow.
    This is pretty bad tempered.
    Both Gardiner and Neil accusing each other of lying.

    We seem to forget Barry spent the first two weeks of the last GE campaign claiming all the MSM were liars and cheats in a very Trumpian way.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,711
    Gallowgate said:

    nico67 said:

    Will this YouGov model be updated every day like in the last election .

    I believe not.
    Thanks . Do you remember a model YouGov used in 2017, I think they updated every afternoon .
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    TudorRose said:

    Boulton might have the courage to admit that no-one runs away from interviews with him!

    There isn't a like button big enough for this post. Very good!
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,905
    LOL at Barry Gardiner taking a massive drink after shouting at Brillo for 10 minutes.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    SunnyJim said:

    There will be no traction with the public on Boris not being able to schedule in an interview...if he'd skipped the debates then yes, it would have been a story.

    As it is there is just fury from the left that their man has been humiliated and their hopes of it being repeated on the PM have been dashed.

    File under 'sour grapes'.


    Conned and then humiliated yes but an absolute disgrace as is leaders not turning up to the debates and sending substitutes. Just empty podium them and let those willing to debate with everybody in public get on with it. It a disgraceful affront to democracy and shows the degree of contempt that corbyn and Johnson have of the electorate.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,397
    Barry Gardiner is good. Years of theological debate are perfect for these interviews. He has Andrew Neil agreeing that pharma prices are an inevitable part of a US trade deal!
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,279
    Boris debates Corbyn on the BBC on Friday 6th December

    It looks as if Corbyn has been checkmated
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,329
    spudgfsh said:

    ydoethur said:

    Wow.
    This is pretty bad tempered.
    Both Gardiner and Neil accusing each other of lying.

    Gardener still not answering the question. I'm beginning to believe that none of the front line Labour MPs are up to the job...
    When is Andrew Neill interviewing Diane Abbott?
    Beginning to believe.....I think that has been obvious for years. The only one who is, is McDonnell and he is an entryist terrorist supporting Marxist.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,578
    edited November 2019
    Foxy said:

    Barry Gardiner is good. Years of theological debate are perfect for these interviews. He has Andrew Neil agreeing that pharma prices are an inevitable part of a US trade deal!

    No - Neil said the Americans would raise pharmaceutical access as part of a free trade deal.
    He is now beating up Buckland as well, pointing out that in fact this shows it was discussed.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,630
    2 hrs 40mins to go. Are we ready?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    MarqueeMark said:

    TudorRose said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Curse of the new thread!
    Well, that was a fun and fascinating day. Drove Carrie Symonds and Dilyn about the South Hams. They had a drink with half a dozen canvassers and the candidate. Some fascinating bits of gossip that would be very indiscreet to share.
    However, people might like to know that Dilyn loves to shred paper into tiny bits. And he gets given Dominic Cummins' hate mail to savage!

    Didn't they meet voters? Isn't that the point of campaigning?
    Yes, they met voters. They were fine. A bit softball, considering we were in a rather beautful bit of the constituency and not amidst the social housing.
    It's not always so. Carrie did tell me that some people have said very rude things to her about Boris. Before they know who she is....
    I heard that someone told Carrie that he “wasn’t in love with Boris” to which she replied “well that’s a relief” 😂
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,397
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Barry Gardiner is good. Years of theological debate are perfect for these interviews. He has Andrew Neil agreeing that pharma prices are an inevitable part of a US trade deal!

    No - Neil said the Americans would raise pharmaceutical access as part of a free trade deal.
    Same thing.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Ave_it said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    The Jo Swinson debate with AN has not yet been confirmed either, I am led to believe....

    I think Jo is having her hair done that night!
    I know some PBers who would approve of that!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,329
    RobD said:

    2 hrs 40mins to go. Are we ready?


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