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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,149

    viewcode said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    148grss said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    I wonder how dissimilar the stats are for the UK ?
    https://twitter.com/KBAndersen/status/1198653456581562368

    I suspect not a lot. It is why we don't really see people becoming more Tory with age like previous generations did.
    Wrong current polls show the Tories leading with 40s to 50s, 40 being the age most people now own a home
    Housing affordability is important.

    The young will not become more Conservative as they age if they don't own their own home.
    It has risen but by 34 over 50% own their own home, coincidentally 35 is the age voters now stop voting Labour with Tories leading with 35 to 54s

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/articles/milestonesjourneyingintoadulthood/2019-02-18

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50543903
    I don't think that is true.

    https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/1199371152025632768?s=09
    Does "based on the age of household reference persons, individuals within a household who act as a reference person for all individuals in the household" mean a 30 year old living with his homeowner parents counts as a homeowner themself?
    No. The household reference person is a nominated single individual in the household. In practice, this is the person who fills out the census form. Because of the different propensity by age and sex to fill out forms, this is usually a middle-aged woman. If a 30 year old male lives with his parents then the person who fills out the form will be his parent, who will usually put their own name into the box.
    The "household reference person" is a useful concept because it enables the other occupants to be defined in relationship to that person, thus disambiguating terms like "son of" and "lodger of"
    Thanks, still a little unclear.

    So is 34 the median age of first household ownership rather than an age where half 34 year olds own and half dont own?
    It is the age when over half own a property as the article makes clear
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868

    viewcode said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    148grss said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    I wonder how dissimilar the stats are for the UK ?
    https://twitter.com/KBAndersen/status/1198653456581562368

    I suspect not a lot. It is why we don't really see people becoming more Tory with age like previous generations did.
    Wrong current polls show the Tories leading with 40s to 50s, 40 being the age most people now own a home
    Housing affordability is important.

    The young will not become more Conservative as they age if they don't own their own home.
    It has risen but by 34 over 50% own their own home, coincidentally 35 is the age voters now stop voting Labour with Tories leading with 35 to 54s

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/articles/milestonesjourneyingintoadulthood/2019-02-18

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50543903
    I don't think that is true.

    https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/1199371152025632768?s=09
    Does "based on the age of household reference persons, individuals within a household who act as a reference person for all individuals in the household" mean a 30 year old living with his homeowner parents counts as a homeowner themself?
    No. The household reference person is a nominated single individual in the household. In practice, this is the person who fills out the census form. Because of the different propensity by age and sex to fill out forms, this is usually a middle-aged woman. If a 30 year old male lives with his parents then the person who fills out the form will be his parent, who will usually put their own name into the box.
    The "household reference person" is a useful concept because it enables the other occupants to be defined in relationship to that person, thus disambiguating terms like "son of" and "lodger of"
    Thanks, still a little unclear.

    So is 34 the median age of first household ownership rather than an age where half 34 year olds own and half dont own?
    Pity the poor 45 to 54s, not knowing which way to turn
  • NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 732
    edited November 2019
    Pulpstar said:

    Paddy again:
    I know the Southwest is a Brexity place but Lib Dems 5-6 in St Ives ?
    There is SOME swing towards them from the Tories and it's only a 312 vote margin to overcome.

    My constituency. Re-re-tread Andrew George trying for a second time to retake the seat he lost in 2015.

    I don’t really have a feel for how things are going, but UK Elect, Gina Miller and Baxter all have Derek Thomas being re-elected by a few percentage points. The YouGov MRP will be interesting.

    No Brexit Party or UKIP, and oddly no Remain alliance here, as the Greens are standing.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    W
    IanB2 said:

    viewcode said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    148grss said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    I wonder how dissimilar the stats are for the UK ?
    https://twitter.com/KBAndersen/status/1198653456581562368

    I suspect not a lot. It is why we don't really see people becoming more Tory with age like previous generations did.
    Wrong current polls show the Tories leading with 40s to 50s, 40 being the age most people now own a home
    Housing affordability is important.

    The young will not become more Conservative as they age if they don't own their own home.
    It has risen but by 34 over 50% own their own home, coincidentally 35 is the age voters now stop voting Labour with Tories leading with 35 to 54s

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/articles/milestonesjourneyingintoadulthood/2019-02-18

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50543903
    I don't think that is true.

    https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/1199371152025632768?s=09
    Does "based on the age of household reference persons, individuals within a household who act as a reference person for all individuals in the household" mean a 30 year old living with his homeowner parents counts as a homeowner themself?
    No. The household reference person is a nominated single individual in the household. In practice, this is the person who fills out the census form. Because of the different propensity by age and sex to fill out forms, this is usually a middle-aged woman. If a 30 year old male lives with his parents then the person who fills out the form will be his parent, who will usually put their own name into the box.
    The "household reference person" is a useful concept because it enables the other occupants to be defined in relationship to that person, thus disambiguating terms like "son of" and "lodger of"
    Thanks, still a little unclear.

    So is 34 the median age of first household ownership rather than an age where half 34 year olds own and half dont own?
    Pity the poor 45 to 54s, not knowing which way to turn
    If we keep this thread going, the OP will get really dark and scrolling past it will take several screens...l
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    IanB2 said:

    W

    IanB2 said:

    viewcode said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    148grss said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    I wonder how dissimilar the stats are for the UK ?
    https://twitter.com/KBAndersen/status/1198653456581562368

    I suspect not a lot. It is why we don't really see people becoming more Tory with age like previous generations did.
    Wrong current polls show the Tories leading with 40s to 50s, 40 being the age most people now own a home
    Housing affordability is important.

    The young will not become more Conservative as they age if they don't own their own home.
    It has risen but by 34 over 50% own their own home, coincidentally 35 is the age voters now stop voting Labour with Tories leading with 35 to 54s

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/articles/milestonesjourneyingintoadulthood/2019-02-18

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50543903
    I don't think that is true.

    https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/1199371152025632768?s=09
    Does "based on the age of household reference persons, individuals within a household who act as a reference person for all individuals in the household" mean a 30 year old living with his homeowner parents counts as a homeowner themself?
    No. The household reference person is a nominated single individual in the household. In practice, this is the person who fills out the census form. Because of the different propensity by age and sex to fill out forms, this is usually a middle-aged woman. If a 30 year old male lives with his parents then the person who fills out the form will be his parent, who will usually put their own name into the box.
    The "household reference person" is a useful concept because it enables the other occupants to be defined in relationship to that person, thus disambiguating terms like "son of" and "lodger of"
    Thanks, still a little unclear.

    So is 34 the median age of first household ownership rather than an age where half 34 year olds own and half dont own?
    Pity the poor 45 to 54s, not knowing which way to turn
    If we keep this thread going, the OP will get really dark and scrolling past it will take several screens...l
    Indeed, yes the OP is now so dark on my iPad that I cannot read it
  • NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 732
    The paragraph spacing seems to have gone to cock, as well.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    nico67 said:

    Generic drugs in the USA are much cheaper compared to patented ones .

    But that’s like saying the patent drug is 1,000 pounds , the generic one 200 pounds so 5 times cheaper.

    In the UK there’s less disparity but both are miles cheaper .

    I think the numbers are considerably more drastic than that. A lot of generic drugs are pennies each - they may be a few pennies fewer in the US, and the NHS goes through billions each year, so it adds up to quite a bit. Probably more than a rounding error in the NHS budget , but not insignificant either. However, I'm not convinced that a US trade deal on any terms would address the difference to a meaningful degree.
    On the other hand, anything that's not generic is orders of magnitude more expensive. While obviously the usage is far lower in volume terms than the generics, their use is a significant chunk of NHS spending and US laws would be simply awful in terms of impact.
    As an example, Humira being out of patent in Europe means not only huge savings for the NHS, but also that a whole host of patients for whom it wasn't previously deemed cost effective can now access it on the NHS. In the US the patent has several years to run still, and even then there won't be proper generic alternatives.
    For context, Humira used to cost in the tens of thousands of pounds per patient per year; now it's down to about a quarter of that (a few thousand per year) in the UK. In the US, it's still at full price.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    edited November 2019
    Last like Corbyn
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,236
    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    W

    IanB2 said:

    viewcode said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    148grss said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    I wonder how dissimilar the stats are for the UK ?
    https://twitter.com/KBAndersen/status/1198653456581562368

    I suspect not a lot. It is why we don't really see people becoming more Tory with age like previous generations did.
    Wrong current polls show the Tories leading with 40s to 50s, 40 being the age most people now own a home
    Housing affordability is important.

    The young will not become more Conservative as they age if they don't own their own home.
    It has risen but by 34 over 50% own their own home, coincidentally 35 is the age voters now stop voting Labour with Tories leading with 35 to 54s

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/articles/milestonesjourneyingintoadulthood/2019-02-18

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50543903
    I don't think that is true.

    https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/1199371152025632768?s=09
    Does "based on the age of household reference persons, individuals within a household who act as a reference person for all individuals in the household" mean a 30 year old living with his homeowner parents counts as a homeowner themself?
    No. The household reference person is a nominated single individual in the household. In practice, this is the person who fills out the census form. Because of the different propensity by age and sex to fill out forms, this is usually a middle-aged woman. If a 30 year old male lives with his parents then the person who fills out the form will be his parent, who will usually put their own name into the box.
    The "household reference person" is a useful concept because it enables the other occupants to be defined in relationship to that person, thus disambiguating terms like "son of" and "lodger of"
    Thanks, still a little unclear.

    So is 34 the median age of first household ownership rather than an age where half 34 year olds own and half dont own?
    Pity the poor 45 to 54s, not knowing which way to turn
    If we keep this thread going, the OP will get really dark and scrolling past it will take several screens...l
    Indeed, yes the OP is now so dark on my iPad that I cannot read it
    Is that any better, Ian?
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