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Let me start by saying this is not an election I have much confidence in predicting. But because that makes for an uninteresting article, I will make some forecasts.
First. Like the Lib Dem candidates in many places. Robert told us the other day that his forecasts were based entirely on gut feeling. Far more important, I think, is that the Lib Dems are focusing their efforts on a relatively reduced number of seats. We have seen several reports in recent weeks of constituencies which have received several centrally-produced and delivered publications. This concentration will not be reflected in the overall polling figures.
Glad Hoyle won but appropriate that the last act of a ridiculous Parliament was to elect a Speaker who could theoretically serve one day and presumably many MPs who will cease to be MPs tomorrow voted. Why didn't they wait til after the election as in 1992?
Also about 100 MPs didn't vote. Disgruntled Tories who didn't want to choose between two Labour MPs?
Ceredigion is a hard one - it has two universities that had broken up by the GE in 2017 which may have let Plaid win, but Ben Lake is a popular MP and a Welsh Speaker which still means something around here Also the AM is Elin Jones PC now the Senedd's President so it will be close but from what Mark Williams the former MP said in the local press last week hes up for the fight so sounds like no pact here and of course it Remain. Im going to go for PC hold
I think the Tories will hold South Cambridgeshire and gain Leave voting North Norfolk and Eastbourne from the LDs but Chuka will win Cities of London and Westminster and Luciana will win Finchley and Golders Green from the Tories, Labour falling to 3rd in both heavily Remain seats through tactical voting for the LDs
I have a feeling the Lib Dems will outperform expectations.
Remainers can't vote Conservative. But can they really vote Labour, either? Aside from the fact that the Labour position is ambiguous, _this is probably their very last chance_ to register their disgust with Brexit before we leave. A vote for the Lib Dems is the clearest proxy for that.
More than that, though I see a lot of my well-to-do remainer friends talking about voting Labour tactically, I just don't see those higher income middle class turkeys voting for Christmas once the Labour manifesto becomes apparent.
The dementia tax is mentioned often, but for me the key failure of the Conservative GE campaign was to fail to drive home the message that the vast amount of Corbyn's policies would be paid for by the squeezed middle. Not the ultra rich in their golden ferraris, but ordinary, hardworking homeowners and professionals.
Labour's proposal to tax all inheritance over £125000 has the real potential to become this year's dementia tax. That will affect a vast number of people. Will they vote Labour? I doubt it. Will they hold their nose and vote Conservative? Probably not. So who is left? The lib dems.
Glad Hoyle won but appropriate that the last act of a ridiculous Parliament was to elect a Speaker who could theoretically serve one day and presumably many MPs who will cease to be MPs tomorrow voted. Why didn't they wait til after the election as in 1992?
Also about 100 MPs didn't vote. Disgruntled Tories who didn't want to choose between two Labour MPs?
SNP were away, making up a good chunk of those that were absent.
Glad Hoyle won but appropriate that the last act of a ridiculous Parliament was to elect a Speaker who could theoretically serve one day and presumably many MPs who will cease to be MPs tomorrow voted. Why didn't they wait til after the election as in 1992?
Also about 100 MPs didn't vote. Disgruntled Tories who didn't want to choose between two Labour MPs?
No, mostly SNP MP's; their benches were noticeably empty.
I'm in Finchley & Golders Green the Lib Dems are pushing Luciana with two leaflets a week... a survey and post card just today... however all being done through Royal Mail as there isn't much of a historical base to work from and few local activists. A couple of leaflets from the Conservatives as well and they have canvassed. However one of those was calling for a parking zone on the basis of the people parking and going to a station that isn't nearby or the nearest station. Parking is an issue but it's because of three to four cars per household rather than commuters. Promising to tax them extra probably isn't a vote winner. Brexit party have held a series of street stalls but no activity from Labour or Greens so far.
How will they do? Inconsistently. I was amazed they didn't win Richmond Park last time, so that does look a safe bet. Fife NE would be a heck of a block not to win given how close they came last time. But on the whole it's a sound looking prediction you make - good recovery really, not as world beating as they'd like it to be or are acting as though it will be, but on the right path. Further success may depend on if the Tories win a majority or if the LDs find themselves having to back a Labour minority government to get a referendum.
BTW, it's being a big cheater to open your piece by saying you don't have much confidence in predicting this election, you're supposed to slip that in at the end to cover your arse.
It is weird that we have a system that places so much emphasis on the link between MP and constituency and the MPs role in engaging in the political process on behalf of their constituents, yet then tolerates four such constituencies whose MPs are unable to engage in politics and one where every elector is effectively excluded from the election.
It would be more sensible for the Speaker and deputies to be excluded from the 650 MP total, and for a vacancy to be created upon their ascent to said position, to be filled by by-election. Thereby ensuring all constituencies are represented by an active political (except Hallam, obvs )
First. Like the Lib Dem candidates in many places. Robert told us the other day that his forecasts were based entirely on gut feeling. Far more important, I think, is that the Lib Dems are focusing their efforts on a relatively reduced number of seats. We have seen several reports in recent weeks of constituencies which have received several centrally-produced and delivered publications. This concentration will not be reflected in the overall polling figures.
The lib dems have always been a 50/50 party at elections, fifty targets and fifty development seats. Thirty is looking on the difference this time is that we have the cash fo r an air war as well as a ground war. Many on here think we shouldn’t exist and should leave it to the real politicians, well they can fuck off.
Based on this thread then the 4/6 available with Ladbrokes on Plaid to get 4 seats or less is excellent value. It loses only if PC hang on in Ceredigion (=30% chance if Robert's 70% is correct) AND their other 3 seats AND they also pick up another seat, with Ynys Mon being the only realistic possibility of a gain in a seat where the Conservatives are also in contention to take the seat off Labour.
I think the Tories will hold South Cambridgeshire and gain Leave voting North Norfolk and Eastbourne from the LDs but Chuka will win Cities of London and Westminster and Luciana will win Finchley and Golders Green from the Tories, Labour falling to 3rd in both heavily Remain seats through tactical voting for the LDs
Timmy Farron might struggle to hold Westmorland; he was badly damaged reputationally in 2017.
It is weird that we have a system that places so much emphasis on the link between MP and constituency and the MPs role in engaging in the political process on behalf of their constituents, yet then tolerates four such constituencies whose MPs are unable to engage in politics and one where every elector is effectively excluded from the election.
It would be more sensible for the Speaker and deputies to be excluded from the 650 MP total, and for a vacancy to be created upon their ascent to said position, to be filled by by-election. Thereby ensuring all constituencies are represented by an active political (except Hallam, obvs )
Not an unreasonable suggestion as far as I'm concerned.
First. Like the Lib Dem candidates in many places. Robert told us the other day that his forecasts were based entirely on gut feeling. Far more important, I think, is that the Lib Dems are focusing their efforts on a relatively reduced number of seats. We have seen several reports in recent weeks of constituencies which have received several centrally-produced and delivered publications. This concentration will not be reflected in the overall polling figures.
I received one of those in a strong Remain seat where the Liberal Democrats came fourth in 2017, losing their deposit (though an improvement on fifth in 2015). I assume that they're hoping for second place at best - they were a strong second in 2005 and 2010, but a lot has happened since then.
Apparently Ann Widdecombe is standing for the Brexit Party, but infuriatingly I can't seem to find out which constituency. Does anyone on PB know?
Plymouth Sutton.
I told my daughter last night if she knocked on her door that she told her she was with her partner in a trans gender transitional relationship seeking to work out if they wanted to be vicars or priests.
On the list in the lead, I’d have doubts about Hornsey and Leeds, but feel more confident about Wells, Winchester and Hazel Grove. I’d also be looking for Guildford. Ashfield could fall to the ex-LD Indy. B&R should be a hold (GE to GE gain). Watch for other remainy LibDem/Tory marginals along the welsh borders, SW and Home Counties.
Two interesting NEW polls from a quick flick through the last thread. ICM (the gold standard ) has Labour within 7 points of the Tories and another poll showing Labour overtaking the Tories in Wales. Clearly the fat lady hasn't even cleared her throat yet.
The Wales poll shows
Labour 18 (-10) Conservatives 17 (+9) Plaid 4 Lib dem 1 (+1)
This would see labour in a minority of seats for the first time in decades
Also the tory share has risen faster than Labour with icm
The poll I was referring to tells a different story re the Welsh poll.
Labour: 29 (+4) Conservatives: 28 (-1) Brexit Party: 15 (+1) Liberal Democrats: 12 (-4) Plaid Cymru: 12 (no change) Greens: 3 (-1) Others: 1 (no change)
Two interesting NEW polls from a quick flick through the last thread. ICM (the gold standard ) has Labour within 7 points of the Tories and another poll showing Labour overtaking the Tories in Wales. Clearly the fat lady hasn't even cleared her throat yet.
The Wales poll shows
Labour 18 (-10) Conservatives 17 (+9) Plaid 4 Lib dem 1 (+1)
This would see labour in a minority of seats for the first time in decades
Also the tory share has risen faster than Labour with icm
The poll I was referring to tells a different story re the Welsh poll.
Labour: 29 (+4) Conservatives: 28 (-1) Brexit Party: 15 (+1) Liberal Democrats: 12 (-4) Plaid Cymru: 12 (no change) Greens: 3 (-1) Others: 1 (no change)
Apparently Ann Widdecombe is standing for the Brexit Party, but infuriatingly I can't seem to find out which constituency. Does anyone on PB know?
Plymouth Sutton.
I told my daughter last night if she knocked on her door that she told her she was with her partner in a trans gender transitional relationship seeking to work out if they wanted to be vicars or priests.
I’m confused. Does that relate to your daughter, Anne Widdecombe or the Brexit Party?
While any opinions will obviously coloured by his own position, I must say I think Guido's campaign roundups via bullet points of the main parties is a useful approach more should adopt.
Based on this thread then the 4/6 available with Ladbrokes on Plaid to get 4 seats or less is excellent value. It loses only if PC hang on in Ceredigion (=30% chance if Robert's 70% is correct) AND their other 3 seats AND they also pick up another seat, with Ynys Mon being the only realistic possibility of a gain in a seat where the Conservatives are also in contention to take the seat off Labour.
DYOR anyone contemplating such a grammatically flawed proposition.
Apparently Ann Widdecombe is standing for the Brexit Party, but infuriatingly I can't seem to find out which constituency. Does anyone on PB know?
Plymouth Sutton.
I told my daughter last night if she knocked on her door that she told her she was with her partner in a trans gender transitional relationship seeking to work out if they wanted to be vicars or priests.
Is it the lagershed?
A gay friend of mine wants to meet Ann Widdecombe because she's improved his sex life.
Glad Hoyle won but appropriate that the last act of a ridiculous Parliament was to elect a Speaker who could theoretically serve one day and presumably many MPs who will cease to be MPs tomorrow voted. Why didn't they wait til after the election as in 1992?
Also about 100 MPs didn't vote. Disgruntled Tories who didn't want to choose between two Labour MPs?
Shouldn’t that be Hornsey and Wood Green, rather than Horney?
Or was it an awesome pun suggesting that might be a hard one?
Unlike you I don't think Robert's brain is 75% comprised of punning
That’s an outrageous suggestion.
It implies there are times when I’m not fully focussed on punning.
Well I assume you spend a small percentage on a daily lesson plan, and some more focusing on working your mighty organ, although in fairness there's some overlap with the punning there.
Apparently Ann Widdecombe is standing for the Brexit Party, but infuriatingly I can't seem to find out which constituency. Does anyone on PB know?
Plymouth Sutton.
I told my daughter last night if she knocked on her door that she told her she was with her partner in a trans gender transitional relationship seeking to work out if they wanted to be vicars or priests.
I’m confused. Does that relate to your daughter, Anne Widdecombe or the Brexit Party?
No just a good way of ensuring that she left them alone and confused as to where to put the tick
I think the Tories will hold South Cambridgeshire and gain Leave voting North Norfolk and Eastbourne from the LDs but Chuka will win Cities of London and Westminster and Luciana will win Finchley and Golders Green from the Tories, Labour falling to 3rd in both heavily Remain seats through tactical voting for the LDs
Timmy Farron might struggle to hold Westmorland; he was badly damaged reputationally in 2017.
Westmoreland was Remain though unlike Eastbourne and North Norfolk
I think the Tories will..... gain Leave voting North Norfolk and Eastbourne from the LDs ......
They are certainly in contention and the LDs won't hang on if they rely only on Remain supporters in those Leave seats. Yet nationally only 3% of Leave supporters currently plan to vote LD according to YouGov. Norman Lamb is also standing down so I expect the Conservatives to pick up his seat, Eastbourne is harder to call and the Brexit waters there are a bit muddier given the MP's stance.
While any opinions will obviously coloured by his own position, I must say I think Guido's campaign roundups via bullet points of the main parties is a useful approach more should adopt.
I think the Tories will hold South Cambridgeshire and gain Leave voting North Norfolk and Eastbourne from the LDs but Chuka will win Cities of London and Westminster and Luciana will win Finchley and Golders Green from the Tories, Labour falling to 3rd in both heavily Remain seats through tactical voting for the LDs
Eastbourne is a special case. The MP there basically spends all his time working the constituency.
I think the Tories will..... gain Leave voting North Norfolk and Eastbourne from the LDs ......
They are certainly in contention and the LDs won't hang on if they rely only on Remain supporters in those Leave seats. Yet nationally only 3% of Remain supporters currently plan to vote LD according to YouGov. Norman Lamb is also standing down so I expect the Conservatives to pick up his seat, Eastbourne is harder to call and the Brexit waters there are a bit muddier given the MP's stance.
"nationally only 3% of Remain supporters currently plan to vote LD according to YouGov"
Despite the rave reviews under this twitter thread I think it may be flawed.
We aren’t looking at Tory and Labour “supporters “defecting” to the BXP.
We are looking at BXP Euro-election voters and weighing up how many of them might switch (“return”, if you insist) to Tory or Labour.
Looked at this way, Tory leavers - except the diehard ultras who won’t shift anyway - clearly have every reason to return, whereas Labour leavers don’t (excepting to those few Lab MPs with leaver appeal like Flint).
Therefore it remains possible that at its current single figure ratings the BXP has very few potential switchers to Tory amongst its support.
This hypothesis has added credibility when you consider that the Tory vote share has already recovered considerably as BXP deflated, whereas Labour’s has not (only just picking up more recently as the LDs start to drift)
I agree with Robert. I doubt the Liberals will get more than 30 seats. I would like to see the Liberals take Fife NE but equally would love to see the SNP retake East Dunbartonshire from the Bearsden girl guide but I fear they will let me down. Does anyone expect any of the defectors not running away to hold either their existing seat or the new ones they have been parachuted into?
interesting predictions. My guess is that this election will be unique among general elections in that more people will be voting against a party than for one. So the insipid ones are likely to score best. The Lib Dems forte so they could be tactical voting's big winners.
It is weird that we have a system that places so much emphasis on the link between MP and constituency and the MPs role in engaging in the political process on behalf of their constituents, yet then tolerates four such constituencies whose MPs are unable to engage in politics and one where every elector is effectively excluded from the election.
It would be more sensible for the Speaker and deputies to be excluded from the 650 MP total, and for a vacancy to be created upon their ascent to said position, to be filled by by-election. Thereby ensuring all constituencies are represented by an active political (except Hallam, obvs )
To be fair the Speaker by tradition gets privileged access for constituency problems (typically a direct meeting with the Minister) to compensate for their inability to raise the issue in the normal way. I assume the same applies to deputies. So it's only on the more political issues that their constituents can't raise controversial points, and to be fair there are 640 other people only too keen to fill in for them.
It's nice to see the genuine all-party enthusiasm for Lindsay. He's unpompous and working-class and Northern without making a big thing of any of it - he just is what he is, and neither boasts nor apologises for it. He was never wildly partisan - a union man, but not associated as far as I know with any of the party factions. He's also quite jolly, which doesn't do any harm in these fraught times.
Two interesting NEW polls from a quick flick through the last thread. ICM (the gold standard ) has Labour within 7 points of the Tories and another poll showing Labour overtaking the Tories in Wales. Clearly the fat lady hasn't even cleared her throat yet.
The Wales poll shows
Labour 18 (-10) Conservatives 17 (+9) Plaid 4 Lib dem 1 (+1)
This would see labour in a minority of seats for the first time in decades
Also the tory share has risen faster than Labour with icm
The poll I was referring to tells a different story re the Welsh poll.
Labour: 29 (+4) Conservatives: 28 (-1) Brexit Party: 15 (+1) Liberal Democrats: 12 (-4) Plaid Cymru: 12 (no change) Greens: 3 (-1) Others: 1 (no change)
While any opinions will obviously coloured by his own position, I must say I think Guido's campaign roundups via bullet points of the main parties is a useful approach more should adopt.
First. Like the Lib Dem candidates in many places. Robert told us the other day that his forecasts were based entirely on gut feeling. Far more important, I think, is that the Lib Dems are focusing their efforts on a relatively reduced number of seats. We have seen several reports in recent weeks of constituencies which have received several centrally-produced and delivered publications. This concentration will not be reflected in the overall polling figures.
The lib dems have always been a 50/50 party at elections, fifty targets and fifty development seats. Thirty is looking on the difference this time is that we have the cash fo r an air war as well as a ground war. Many on here think we shouldn’t exist and should leave it to the real politicians, well they can fuck off.
You are admitting that with such a limited number of target seats, the leaflet from Jo Swinson saying she is going to be Prime Minister is, to coin a phrase, bollocks?
So why should she be in the potential PMs debate? Or maybe, I dunno, she should fuck off?
I think the Tories will..... gain Leave voting North Norfolk and Eastbourne from the LDs ......
They are certainly in contention and the LDs won't hang on if they rely only on Remain supporters in those Leave seats. Yet nationally only 3% of Remain supporters currently plan to vote LD according to YouGov. Norman Lamb is also standing down so I expect the Conservatives to pick up his seat, Eastbourne is harder to call and the Brexit waters there are a bit muddier given the MP's stance.
"nationally only 3% of Remain supporters currently plan to vote LD according to YouGov"
Despite the rave reviews under this twitter thread I think it may be flawed.
We aren’t looking at Tory and Labour “supporters “defecting” to the BXP.
We are looking at BXP Euro-election voters and weighing up how many of them might switch (“return”, if you insist) to Tory or Labour.
Looked at this way, Tory leavers - except the diehard ultras who won’t shift anyway - clearly have every reason to return, whereas Labour leavers don’t (excepting to those few Lab MPs with leaver appeal like Flint).
Therefore it remains possible that at its current single figure ratings the BXP has very few potential switchers to Tory amongst its support.
This hypothesis has added credibility when you consider that the Tory vote share has already recovered considerably as BXP deflated, whereas Labour’s has not (only just picking up more recently as the LDs start to drift)
Your reading assumes that Brexit is the bee all and end all - if it's not you then need to work out how things pan out.
Boris promising to leave and failing to do so will be on the BXP main stories. That will not help the Tories reclaim BXP ex-Tory voters.
Labour is clearly focussing on other items outside Brexit. That may win some of their BXP votes back.
South Cambs: I agree the seat is trending LibDem, mainly because Cambridge house prices are driving young professionals/academics into South Cambs. Homerton College is (just) within the boundaries by metres, but many of the students will not be in South Cambs, but in Cambridge City. The fact that Heidi Allen chose not to contest seems significant to me. She was always the most likely TIGGer to retain her seat. In the absence of Heidi, I think this is TORY HOLD
Ceredigion: I'd like to think Ben Lake will hold this seat. However, Plaid Cymru took it in 2017 even though their vote share dropped -- the LibDem vote share happened to drop more. It was a very fortuitous circumstance, so reluctantly I think the LibDems will take it, on the back of the student vote in the two universities. LIBDEM GAIN.
I am very sceptical on Leeds North West and Hornsey and Wood Green. LAB HOLDS, I think.
The seat that you don't mention which I rate very likely to fall is Guildford. The LibDems start in second place, with a largish Labour vote to squeeze. It is one of the few University seats held by the Tories, the Universities are very Remain-y (not entirely from altruistic reasons). The Tory MP is now ex-Tory. I think this, with St Albans, are the most likely LIBDEM GAINS.
I think all the defectors will lose their seats, and I think Brecon & Radnorshire will be a TORY HOLD, the by-election victor being kicked out.
While any opinions will obviously coloured by his own position, I must say I think Guido's campaign roundups via bullet points of the main parties is a useful approach more should adopt.
Guido also has a list of MPs standing down. I’d missed this one:
Bill Grant, Con, Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock
He is nearly 70, and has had a quiet two years.
Looking at the massive shifts in votes in that seat, like many others in Scotland, I don't think becoming a Scottish MP is a path for those seeking a quiet life generally though.
After SNP up 30, then Con up 20, might as well now see LDs up 35 so we can See Lab/SNP/Con/LD follow each other in successive elections.
I agree with Robert. I doubt the Liberals will get more than 30 seats. I would like to see the Liberals take Fife NE but equally would love to see the SNP retake East Dunbartonshire from the Bearsden girl guide but I fear they will let me down. Does anyone expect any of the defectors not running away to hold either their existing seat or the new ones they have been parachuted into?
I will be amazed if the Liberals get any seats at all. Totally different party fro the Liberal Democrat’s. Anti-Eu for a start.
And by rising to his bait I’ve made Mr NC’s evening, I’m sure!
Good piece Robert and excellent for betting purposes.
It's possible that a corridor of seats from Richmond roughly down the A3 may become a little more marginal after this election: places like Woking and Guildford. Look at the locals and euros before dismissing this.
In the South-west, whatever MM proclaims, Totnes could be close. Sarah Wollaston is an interesting MP and she wasn't elected as a typical Conservative.
Generally though the LibDems need some national traction.
And the Tories are the Conservative and Unionist Party and some Labour MPs are Labour and Co-Operative Party MPs and we don't both to be precise every single time with them, there's no confusion referring to the Lib Dems as the Liberals as a shorthand. The actual Liberal Party are so tiny there's no reasonable way for people to get confused by who is meant.
First. Like the Lib Dem candidates in many places. Robert told us the other day that his forecasts were based entirely on gut feeling. Far more important, I think, is that the Lib Dems are focusing their efforts on a relatively reduced number of seats. We have seen several reports in recent weeks of constituencies which have received several centrally-produced and delivered publications. This concentration will not be reflected in the overall polling figures.
The lib dems have always been a 50/50 party at elections, fifty targets and fifty development seats. Thirty is looking on the difference this time is that we have the cash fo r an air war as well as a ground war. Many on here think we shouldn’t exist and should leave it to the real politicians, well they can fuck off.
You are admitting that with such a limited number of target seats, the leaflet from Jo Swinson saying she is going to be Prime Minister is, to coin a phrase, bollocks?
So why should she be in the potential PMs debate? Or maybe, I dunno, she should fuck off?
Will be a good stepping off point for the 2020 GE...
And unfortunately a 2020 GE is a higher chance than people are realising right now. Would be fitting after the last December election. Perhaps it will be a straight reversal of the outcome of 1924 then.
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Also about 100 MPs didn't vote. Disgruntled Tories who didn't want to choose between two Labour MPs?
Remainers can't vote Conservative. But can they really vote Labour, either? Aside from the fact that the Labour position is ambiguous, _this is probably their very last chance_ to register their disgust with Brexit before we leave. A vote for the Lib Dems is the clearest proxy for that.
More than that, though I see a lot of my well-to-do remainer friends talking about voting Labour tactically, I just don't see those higher income middle class turkeys voting for Christmas once the Labour manifesto becomes apparent.
The dementia tax is mentioned often, but for me the key failure of the Conservative GE campaign was to fail to drive home the message that the vast amount of Corbyn's policies would be paid for by the squeezed middle. Not the ultra rich in their golden ferraris, but ordinary, hardworking homeowners and professionals.
Labour's proposal to tax all inheritance over £125000 has the real potential to become this year's dementia tax. That will affect a vast number of people. Will they vote Labour? I doubt it. Will they hold their nose and vote Conservative? Probably not. So who is left? The lib dems.
Although I put Richmond Park as 99.99%
SuperJo maybe not as super as some think!
Or was it an awesome pun suggesting that might be a hard one?
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/ann-widdecombe-stand-brexit-party-3259670
BTW, it's being a big cheater to open your piece by saying you don't have much confidence in predicting this election, you're supposed to slip that in at the end to cover your arse.
It is weird that we have a system that places so much emphasis on the link between MP and constituency and the MPs role in engaging in the political process on behalf of their constituents, yet then tolerates four such constituencies whose MPs are unable to engage in politics and one where every elector is effectively excluded from the election.
It would be more sensible for the Speaker and deputies to be excluded from the 650 MP total, and for a vacancy to be created upon their ascent to said position, to be filled by by-election. Thereby ensuring all constituencies are represented by an active political (except Hallam, obvs )
I'm still haunted by the fact that in the run up to GE2017 I told my then girlfriend I'd marry her if Corbyn became PM.
https://twitter.com/caprosser/status/1191388895797301254
It implies there are times when I’m not fully focussed on punning.
https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1191459594675138560
Even after the Claggasm they LOST seats on the day!
Labour: 29 (+4)
Conservatives: 28 (-1)
Brexit Party: 15 (+1)
Liberal Democrats: 12 (-4)
Plaid Cymru: 12 (no change)
Greens: 3 (-1)
Others: 1 (no change)
Posted with no comment
https://order-order.com/2019/11/04/campaign-round-38-days-go/
A gay friend of mine wants to meet Ann Widdecombe because she's improved his sex life.
Mostly SNP who have sensibly gone home
Living in Trump's America is beginning to rub off I see.
Was expecting to see Cheltenham mentioned - it meets your criteria. As I am hoping for a LibDem gain here, have I missed something?
Have a fair system like we had for the Euros and they do just fine.
It's really not rocket science
Really? How does that work?
We aren’t looking at Tory and Labour “supporters “defecting” to the BXP.
We are looking at BXP Euro-election voters and weighing up how many of them might switch (“return”, if you insist) to Tory or Labour.
Looked at this way, Tory leavers - except the diehard ultras who won’t shift anyway - clearly have every reason to return, whereas Labour leavers don’t (excepting to those few Lab MPs with leaver appeal like Flint).
Therefore it remains possible that at its current single figure ratings the BXP has very few potential switchers to Tory amongst its support.
This hypothesis has added credibility when you consider that the Tory vote share has already recovered considerably as BXP deflated, whereas Labour’s has not (only just picking up more recently as the LDs start to drift)
It's nice to see the genuine all-party enthusiasm for Lindsay. He's unpompous and working-class and Northern without making a big thing of any of it - he just is what he is, and neither boasts nor apologises for it. He was never wildly partisan - a union man, but not associated as far as I know with any of the party factions. He's also quite jolly, which doesn't do any harm in these fraught times.
Bill Grant, Con, Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock
He is nearly 70, and has had a quiet two years.
So why should she be in the potential PMs debate? Or maybe, I dunno, she should fuck off?
Edit: Chancellor of Great Britain, that explains that.
Boris promising to leave and failing to do so will be on the BXP main stories. That will not help the Tories reclaim BXP ex-Tory voters.
Labour is clearly focussing on other items outside Brexit. That may win some of their BXP votes back.
South Cambs: I agree the seat is trending LibDem, mainly because Cambridge house prices are driving young professionals/academics into South Cambs. Homerton College is (just) within the boundaries by metres, but many of the students will not be in South Cambs, but in Cambridge City. The fact that Heidi Allen chose not to contest seems significant to me. She was always the most likely TIGGer to retain her seat. In the absence of Heidi, I think this is TORY HOLD
Ceredigion: I'd like to think Ben Lake will hold this seat. However, Plaid Cymru took it in 2017 even though their vote share dropped -- the LibDem vote share happened to drop more. It was a very fortuitous circumstance, so reluctantly I think the LibDems will take it, on the back of the student vote in the two universities. LIBDEM GAIN.
I am very sceptical on Leeds North West and Hornsey and Wood Green. LAB HOLDS, I think.
The seat that you don't mention which I rate very likely to fall is Guildford. The LibDems start in second place, with a largish Labour vote to squeeze. It is one of the few University seats held by the Tories, the Universities are very Remain-y (not entirely from altruistic reasons). The Tory MP is now ex-Tory. I think this, with St Albans, are the most likely LIBDEM GAINS.
I think all the defectors will lose their seats, and I think Brecon & Radnorshire will be a TORY HOLD, the by-election victor being kicked out.
After SNP up 30, then Con up 20, might as well now see LDs up 35 so we can See Lab/SNP/Con/LD follow each other in successive elections.
Anti-Eu for a start.
And by rising to his bait I’ve made Mr NC’s evening, I’m sure!
It's possible that a corridor of seats from Richmond roughly down the A3 may become a little more marginal after this election: places like Woking and Guildford. Look at the locals and euros before dismissing this.
In the South-west, whatever MM proclaims, Totnes could be close. Sarah Wollaston is an interesting MP and she wasn't elected as a typical Conservative.
Generally though the LibDems need some national traction.
Martin Goss will be disappointed - but Libs fell to 3rd in 2017 from first in 2010.
Minority government goes for new election next year.
And are you a camel if you have two humps?
Ir will make or much much easier for Tories to GAIN a majority
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/11/04/euro-error-trap-says-hungarys-central-banking-chief/