4-1 instinctively feels too short for Rory the Tory.
Was there a thread header tipping Khan at big odds on?
Yes, mine. I've also tipped Benita below the line at 33s. I'm very happy with my position.
Very happy? You must be well underwater mustn’t you?
I've topped up £50 on Khan at 7-10. I'll work out the value of my position in a second for you
Ha you don’t have to do that. I just can’t see there’s much upside of backing long term big odds on shots in political betting. Someone else tipped Labour most seats at odds on about a year or 18 months ago, seemed absolute madness to me.
OT. My new top of the political interviewers is Mishal Husein. Her interview with Stephen Barkely set the questions for the day yesterday both in the media and in parliament. It was clear she was more knowledgable about the plan than he was. No bullying Just having a bigger brain and doing her homework. Pointing out the sticking points he hadn't anticipated
The standard of BBC journalists is at an all time high. Though I'd put Mihal and Katya Adler top Nick Robinson is also extremely good. Only Laura K seems well off the pace.
Khan may need to tack left now in order to secure victory. He's not as impressive as Stewart and might need to rely on Labour tribalism rather than espousing centrist Liberal values because he'll be trumped in that respect by Stewart and the yellows.
Khan may need to tack left now in order to secure victory. He's not as impressive as Stewart and might need to rely on Labour tribalism rather than espousing centrist Liberal values because he'll be trumped in that respect by Stewart and the yellows.
Khan's playing on easy mode, they'll probably be fighting to finish runner up to him.
Edit: I think his left flank is pretty secure. Corbyn and Labour members will be calling on people to vote Labour in the Mayoral elections. He'd have to work to lose it.
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
4-1 instinctively feels too short for Rory the Tory.
I don't think so. A very smart move from him, which we perhaps ought to have seen coming.
It is the one high profile contest in the country where party backing doesn't count for everything. I think if anything he ought to be slightly shorter odds than that.
You always see these sorts of contests so differently to me !
Nothing personal.
Of course it's possible that he falls flat on his face, but I don't think so.
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
Perhaps Cyclefree rushed to pronounce her verdict before considering all of the evidence. Others may have done likewise regarding Gove's speech yesterday.
. Even in his wildest dreams as a Bullingdon Boy trashing restaurants Boris could never have dreamt of the destruction he would one day cause. What a guy!
Johnson is a creep - but he's always been one. Tory activists used to be ideologically misdirected, but at heart well-meaning. They're the ones who've chosen an incontinent, incompetent - and bizarrely inarticulate - liar to run the government.
The blame lies squarely with them.
To be fair the membership was offered Boris as runaway favourite from the MPs. They were never going to anul that choice. It was always said that Boris might be the darling of the faithful but MPs were far too wise to allow him on the final ticket. Hence the 'lay Boris' orthodoxy. Something obviously has gone very wrong!
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
The difficulty for those bringing the case is the courts don’t normally do things in anticipation of a law being broken , they normally act once that’s happened.
4-1 instinctively feels too short for Rory the Tory.
Was there a thread header tipping Khan at big odds on?
Yes, mine. I've also tipped Benita below the line at 33s. I'm very happy with my position.
Very happy? You must be well underwater mustn’t you?
I've topped up £50 on Khan at 7-10. I'll work out the value of my position in a second for you
Ha you don’t have to do that. I just can’t see there’s much upside of backing long term big odds on shots in political betting. Someone else tipped Labour most seats at odds on about a year or 18 months ago, seemed absolute madness to me.
Fair enough, -£55 is the current book value. Stewart weirdly short on Betfair right now.
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
Perhaps Cyclefree rushed to pronounce her verdict before considering all of the evidence. Others may have done likewise regarding Gove's speech yesterday.
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
Perhaps Cyclefree rushed to pronounce her verdict before considering all of the evidence. Others may have done likewise regarding Gove's speech yesterday.
It’s very fashionable to view what people say through the prism of whether they’re on your side before researching or thinking.
Berry’s behaviour is now a wiki fact
“In October 2019, whilst in the House of Commons, Berry came under criticism for shouting "Britain first! Britain first!", the extremist language of words used by Jo Cox's murderer Thomas Mair when he fatally shot and stabbed her. Mair is currently serving life imprisonment.”
Happened to glance at the Betfair Exchange Premier League title market.
I know Liverpool and Manchester City are rightly favourites, but literally every other team is more than 100/1. Is that right? [Must say this isn't my area and I've been paying minimal attention, it just surprised me].
Richard Burgon is a man known for his honest recollection of events...
Labour’s Richard Burgon has been proven to have lied when he denied he had ever said "Zionism is the enemy of peace", as footage of him using these words was exposed.
The shadow justice secretary appeared on the BBC's Daily Politics Show in March 2018 and presenter Andrew Neil asked about a Daily Mail report that claimed he said this.
Mr Burgon insisted repeatedly that he “didn’t say that” and “that’s not my view.”
Happened to glance at the Betfair Exchange Premier League title market.
I know Liverpool and Manchester City are rightly favourites, but literally every other team is more than 100/1. Is that right? [Must say this isn't my area and I've been paying minimal attention, it just surprised me].
Yes.
EDIT: Mind you, Leicester ought to be third favourites. They're not - they are 200/1. A win tomorrow will see that price go below 100/1.
A review of Scotland's Yard disastrous inquiry into false allegations of a VIP paedophile ring found warrants to search the homes of the wrongly accused suspects were obtained "unlawfully".
I actually think it is wrong that the media keep repeating the names of those that were raided / accused in every report. It keeps bringing them to public attention and there will always be some that think no smoke without fire.
Summary of last nights local by elections. Another very good night for the Lib Dems, a pretty good night for the Tories, especially in Aberdeen, SNP holding firm. One great green surge but other results poor and Labour lost votes in every election, in fact at least 5% in every single one. L to the o to the l
Sky News - Rory Stewart to stand as Independent for Mayor of London.
Well, *that's* out of left field.
Maybe it's because I'm not a Londoner That I love London so...
I wonder how many PBers who live in London were born there, and how many who were born there, don’t.
Hasn't always been the case. I understand that in past centuries the (children's especially) death rate in London, due to poor sewage systems and so on was so high in many years that, had people not followed the example of the late R. Whittington Esq. (and cat), the population of the city would have fallen.
How does Stewart expect to be taken seriously? One minute he's standing for Tory leader, next he is quitting the party altogether! What does he believe in exactly? Himself, it seems, that's all.
i) No official mark ii) No obvious London connection iii) Pro Brexit.
It is a very odd decision. I would have thought a better plan would have gone and done a David Miliband type thing and then in a few years when Boris has gone come back as a moderate voice.
To be perfectly honest, I actually think Rory would be best ditching politics and doing the international aid thing, as it is something he genuinely believes in.
Sky News - Rory Stewart to stand as Independent for Mayor of London.
Well, *that's* out of left field.
Maybe it's because I'm not a Londoner That I love London so...
I wonder how many PBers who live in London were born there, and how many who were born there, don’t.
Hasn't always been the case. I understand that in past centuries the (children's especially) death rate in London, due to poor sewage systems and so on was so high in many years that, had people not followed the example of the late R. Whittington Esq. (and cat), the population of the city would have fallen.
I can understand why non Londoners like living there, and why London born people move away... and the reverse of both opinions! Just interested to know
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
Luckily we have someone from Johnson's cabinet to clear the matter up, a group noted for their honesty.
It's a bit of a non-denial denial, and at second hand. Was the exchange caught on telly?
Mikey Smith, journo from above looked and couldn't tell either way. I think it is a bit like when Corbyn was accused of saying stupid woman, arguable either way and some people will believe whatever suits their biases.
Tricky - he could catch fire. He has a lot of nous even if his current positioning isn't that promising. And Khan hasn't been very impressive imho (though it's a long time since I had my finger on the pulse of London politics).
It's all about being the clear alternative to Khan (with only a second preference a Green-LD or Tory-LD ballot is no use), and he's probably best placed to be that. 20% sounds fair enough but Sadiq looks the value today - his challenge will be staying in - or at least close enough to - the Labour Party over Brexit.
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
Luckily we have someone from Johnson's cabinet to clear the matter up, a group noted for their honesty.
It's a bit of a non-denial denial, and at second hand. Was the exchange caught on telly?
Mikey Smith, journo from above looked and couldn't tell either way. I think it is a bit like when Corbyn was accused of saying stupid woman, arguable either way and some people will believe whatever suits their biases.
If he'd *screamed* it twice, it would have been picked up.
So could HMtQ advise the PM that unless there was a respectable interval between her speech and the election..... i.e time for sensible(!) proposals to be enacted..... the speech wouldn't take place.
Unless of course it's a very short speech. 'My Government has decided that since there are not enough MP's who support it, that it's going to see if it can get some more!'
Tricky - he could catch fire. He has a lot of nous even if his current positioning isn't that promising. And Khan hasn't been very impressive imho (though it's a long time since I had my finger on the pulse of London politics).
It's all about being the clear alternative to Khan (with only a second preference a Green-LD or Tory-LD ballot is no use), and he's probably best placed to be that. 20% sounds fair enough but Sadiq looks the value today - his challenge will be staying in - or at least close enough to - the Labour Party over Brexit.
I agree that Sadiq looks the value. I have backed him at 4/5. Crudely speaking, I don’t think London’s Muslims will ever vote for a non Muslim again unless there’s not a Muslim candidate, and they must be the biggest voting bloc
i) No official mark ii) No obvious London connection iii) Pro Brexit.
Surely the Muslim vote wins it for Khan? Stewart splits the opposition more than hurts Sadiq I’d say. 1.8 looks decent to me
Muslim voters (around 12% if London population) are overwhelmingly Labour anyway. No doubt Khan does marginally better than, say, Livingstone, and drives a marginally higher turnout. But I seriously doubt it's worth much more than 1% of total vote over a non-Muslim Labour candidate (and indeed he probably loses a few more "traditional" Labour voters at the margins).
Khan will beat him easily, quite frankly I don't think Corbyn would be that harmed even if he didn't.
As with the same spiel against coalition LibDems, I don't think most people in Rory's target market will buy it - his attraction is that he hasn't unthinkingly followed the pack. Quite apart from how true it is, it's one more example of Corbyn just hissing at anyone who's not signed up to his project. (And one to store up next time the outriders proclaim what a cuddly chap he is).
It leaves me (as a floating voter, but often Lab in the past) cold.
So could HMtQ advise the PM that unless there was a respectable interval between her speech and the election..... i.e time for sensible(!) proposals to be enacted..... the speech wouldn't take place.
Unless of course it's a very short speech. 'My Government has decided that since there are not enough MP's who support it, that it's going to see if it can get some more!'
Or words to that effect.
She could always send Prince Charles?! That would be the cat amung the pigeons...
i) No official mark ii) No obvious London connection iii) Pro Brexit.
Surely the Muslim vote wins it for Khan? Stewart splits the opposition more than hurts Sadiq I’d say. 1.8 looks decent to me
Muslim voters (around 12% if London population) are overwhelmingly Labour anyway. No doubt Khan does marginally better than, say, Livingstone, and drives a marginally higher turnout. But I seriously doubt it's worth much more than 1% of total vote over a non-Muslim Labour candidate (and indeed he probably loses a few more "traditional" Labour voters at the margins).
Tricky - he could catch fire. He has a lot of nous even if his current positioning isn't that promising. And Khan hasn't been very impressive imho (though it's a long time since I had my finger on the pulse of London politics).
It's all about being the clear alternative to Khan (with only a second preference a Green-LD or Tory-LD ballot is no use), and he's probably best placed to be that. 20% sounds fair enough but Sadiq looks the value today - his challenge will be staying in - or at least close enough to - the Labour Party over Brexit.
The pattern of second preferences isn't likely to be very helpful to Rory. For a start a lot of voters in the mayoral election don't make a second preference at all, and of those that do, it's not clear that Rory is going to be their second choice: LD or Green voters may well put Khan second, or waste their second pref on Green/LD respectively. Tory voters won't necessarily put him second either, if they are angry about him being sane on Brexit.
He might get into the second round, but it's a big step to actually win the thing. I'd put fair odds at maybe 10/1, perhaps even longer.
Which is a great pity, because I think he's the best candidate ever to have stood for London Mayor since the modern post was created. So I hope I'm wrong and he manages to catch the zeitgeist. (I suspect he'll have a lot of support from the Evening Standard, which will help).
Tricky - he could catch fire. He has a lot of nous even if his current positioning isn't that promising. And Khan hasn't been very impressive imho (though it's a long time since I had my finger on the pulse of London politics).
It's all about being the clear alternative to Khan (with only a second preference a Green-LD or Tory-LD ballot is no use), and he's probably best placed to be that. 20% sounds fair enough but Sadiq looks the value today - his challenge will be staying in - or at least close enough to - the Labour Party over Brexit.
The pattern of second preferences isn't likely to be very helpful to Rory. For a start a lot of voters in the mayoral election don't make a second preference at all, and of those that do, it's not clear that Rory is going to be their second choice: LD or Green voters may well put Khan second, or waste their second pref on Green/LD respectively. Tory voters won't necessarily put him second either, if they are angry about him being sane on Brexit.
He might get into the second round, but it's a big step to actually win the thing. I'd put fair odds at maybe 10/1, perhaps even longer.
Which is a a pity, because I think he's the best candidate ever to have stood for London Mayor since the modern post was created.
He can't pull off a shock victory. By which I mean if we head into polling day with him in fourth or even third, people won't put him down second (well, not enough).
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
The exact words of Jo Cox's killer were "put Britain first". So even if Jake Berry appended "why don't you" in front and "for once" behind, I personally still think it is disgraceful to parrot the words of a fascist and convicted terrorist at the colleagues of the terrorist's victim, and is part of a deliberate Tory effort to employ extreme language to inflame passions, irrespective of the violence they might encourage. It is fine to engage robustly with your opponents but suggesting they are acting against the interests of this country is deeply irresponsible in today's climate.
Remainer in a field of remainers No party ticket Voting history not very London voter centric (Tory policy vs non Tory city) Pro fox hunting in a liberal, metropolitan election
Slightly nerdy O/T: busy day for the Home Office policing team. Away from the Met, they're apparently about to intervene in Warwickshire Police.
Background: neighbours West Mercia gave a year's notice on a strategic alliance deal 361 days ago because Warks have a 50pc say on everything for 30pc of the cost... no deal has been reached on ongoing co-operation, and Warks seem not to be ready to go their own way. (Sound familiar?)
Remainer in a field of remainers No party ticket Voting history not very London voter centric (Tory policy vs non Tory city) Pro fox hunting in a liberal, metropolitan election
Odds very much against him imo
I'd agree with your last sentence.. but just as much because he's not Remain enough for that electorate. He voted for the deal every time and has tweeted again this morning that he's against remain/referendum.
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
The exact words of Jo Cox's killer were "put Britain first". So even if Jake Berry appended "why don't you" in front and "for once" behind, I personally still think it is disgraceful to parrot the words of a fascist and convicted terrorist at the colleagues of the terrorist's victim, and is part of a deliberate Tory effort to employ extreme language to inflame passions, irrespective of the violence they might encourage. It is fine to engage robustly with your opponents but suggesting they are acting against the interests of this country is deeply irresponsible in today's climate.
He's not "parroting the words of a fascist" by using three common words in a natural order. He's simply making a reasonable point.
i) No official mark ii) No obvious London connection iii) Pro Brexit.
Surely the Muslim vote wins it for Khan? Stewart splits the opposition more than hurts Sadiq I’d say. 1.8 looks decent to me
Muslim voters (around 12% if London population) are overwhelmingly Labour anyway. No doubt Khan does marginally better than, say, Livingstone, and drives a marginally higher turnout. But I seriously doubt it's worth much more than 1% of total vote over a non-Muslim Labour candidate (and indeed he probably loses a few more "traditional" Labour voters at the margins).
12% was in 2011 wasn’t it?
50% increase from 2001. Can’t say whether it follows that 2011-2021 will be the same ratio of course.
The government has once again failed to provide a sworn statement regarding the nobile officium case in the Scottish Court of Session .
What were they supposed to be swearing to?
That the PM and government will obey the law . This might not be as big an issue as say in the prorogation case as they maintain their “we will obey the law but still come out on the 31 October “ however both can’t be true .
The government does have a better chance of winning this case because they actuality haven’t broken the law yet and normally courts would only act after that.
There are two cases here though . One is to have an order compelling the PM to sign the extension letter and the other to allow a remedy if he doesn’t by allowing the court to sign on his behalf .
This is very disappointing and a clear error from Baroness Hale. I speak as a Conservative very prepared to defend the Supreme Court, and their decision last week.
Khan will beat him easily, quite frankly I don't think Corbyn would be that harmed even if he didn't.
As with the same spiel against coalition LibDems, I don't think most people in Rory's target market will buy it - his attraction is that he hasn't unthinkingly followed the pack. Quite apart from how true it is, it's one more example of Corbyn just hissing at anyone who's not signed up to his project. (And one to store up next time the outriders proclaim what a cuddly chap he is).
It leaves me (as a floating voter, but often Lab in the past) cold.
Why in God's name would Corbyn support Stewart for London mayor? Have you completely taken leave of your senses?
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
The exact words of Jo Cox's killer were "put Britain first". So even if Jake Berry appended "why don't you" in front and "for once" behind, I personally still think it is disgraceful to parrot the words of a fascist and convicted terrorist at the colleagues of the terrorist's victim, and is part of a deliberate Tory effort to employ extreme language to inflame passions, irrespective of the violence they might encourage. It is fine to engage robustly with your opponents but suggesting they are acting against the interests of this country is deeply irresponsible in today's climate.
He's not "parroting the words of a fascist" by using three common words in a natural order. He's simply making a reasonable point.
If I say ‘Liverpool will win the league’ and someone else says ‘I don’t think Liverpool will win the league’ they’re basically quoting me, according to the insanely inconsistent rule book of progressive politics
Maybe Jake Berry is just trying to get ahead of the crowd, Kippers are standard now. The hardcore need to go further to stand out.
"Britain First" is what Jo Cox's killer shouted as he murdered her. If this is true then Berry should have the whip withdrawn. Assuming it happened, it is a plain expression of support for fascism and terrorism from the Tory front bench.
Agreed. It is an utter disgrace.
Come on @Cyclefree, you know better than to take Richard Burgon at face value, surely?
The exact words of Jo Cox's killer were "put Britain first". So even if Jake Berry appended "why don't you" in front and "for once" behind, I personally still think it is disgraceful to parrot the words of a fascist and convicted terrorist at the colleagues of the terrorist's victim, and is part of a deliberate Tory effort to employ extreme language to inflame passions, irrespective of the violence they might encourage. It is fine to engage robustly with your opponents but suggesting they are acting against the interests of this country is deeply irresponsible in today's climate.
He's not "parroting the words of a fascist" by using three common words in a natural order. He's simply making a reasonable point.
If I say ‘Liverpool will win the league’ and someone else says ‘I don’t think Liverpool will win the league’ they’re basically quoting me, according to the insanely inconsistent rule book of progressive politics
Not really, because the words you have added fundamentally change the meaning whereas the words Berry added didn't. But apart from that you are 100% correct, well done.
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The standard of BBC journalists is at an all time high. Though I'd put Mihal and Katya Adler top Nick Robinson is also extremely good. Only Laura K seems well off the pace.
Edit: I think his left flank is pretty secure. Corbyn and Labour members will be calling on people to vote Labour in the Mayoral elections. He'd have to work to lose it.
https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/status/1179750304247619585
They’ve separated them out . One to hear whether an order can be made to comply with the Benn Act and the other what the tweet is in relation to .
I don’t know much about Burgon tbh.
I agreed with the statement that if it was true it was a disgrace.
If the MP did not say this then happy to withdraw the criticism.
Of course it's possible that he falls flat on his face, but I don't think so.
But we live in strange times !
Till later......
Berry’s behaviour is now a wiki fact
“In October 2019, whilst in the House of Commons, Berry came under criticism for shouting "Britain first! Britain first!", the extremist language of words used by Jo Cox's murderer Thomas Mair when he fatally shot and stabbed her. Mair is currently serving life imprisonment.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Berry
Would be a bit low if he did. Not just going to blindly trust something a member of Johnson's cabinet says personally though.
"Believe in Brexit" is good, too. Does it qualify for faith status ?
https://twitter.com/ShaileshVara/status/1180047962703052800
Ann main in troubs
I know Liverpool and Manchester City are rightly favourites, but literally every other team is more than 100/1. Is that right? [Must say this isn't my area and I've been paying minimal attention, it just surprised me].
Labour’s Richard Burgon has been proven to have lied when he denied he had ever said "Zionism is the enemy of peace", as footage of him using these words was exposed.
The shadow justice secretary appeared on the BBC's Daily Politics Show in March 2018 and presenter Andrew Neil asked about a Daily Mail report that claimed he said this.
Mr Burgon insisted repeatedly that he “didn’t say that” and “that’s not my view.”
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-s-richard-burgon-revealed-to-have-lied-when-he-denied-saying-zionism-is-the-enemy-of-peace-1.483091
Bridge of Don (Aberdeen) first preferences:
CON: 36.2% (+10.3)
SNP: 35.0% (+0.9)
LDEM: 18.1% (+8.8)
LAB: 5.9% (-5.2)
GRN: 2.7% (+2.7)
UKIP: 1.1% (+1.1)
IND: 0.8% (-0.1)
RED: 0.2% (+0.2)
No other Ind(s) (-18.3) as prev.
3:40 am - 4 Oct 2019
EDIT: Mind you, Leicester ought to be third favourites. They're not - they are 200/1. A win tomorrow will see that price go below 100/1.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49933843
I actually think it is wrong that the media keep repeating the names of those that were raided / accused in every report. It keeps bringing them to public attention and there will always be some that think no smoke without fire.
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1180069923365806080
next...
Clearly some staffers have decided they must react though.
i) No official mark
ii) No obvious London connection
iii) Pro Brexit.
Khan will beat him easily, quite frankly I don't think Corbyn would be that harmed even if he didn't.
To be perfectly honest, I actually think Rory would be best ditching politics and doing the international aid thing, as it is something he genuinely believes in.
Rory 2/1
https://www.bet365.com/#/AC/B5/C20669323/D1/E43867842/F2/
https://twitter.com/ShaileshVara/status/1180047962703052800?s=20
Of course, it served Boris well.
Of course, Boris managed to get elected.....
https://twitter.com/RoryStewartUK/status/1180054614713999361?s=20
It's all about being the clear alternative to Khan (with only a second preference a Green-LD or Tory-LD ballot is no use), and he's probably best placed to be that. 20% sounds fair enough but Sadiq looks the value today - his challenge will be staying in - or at least close enough to - the Labour Party over Brexit.
Unless of course it's a very short speech. 'My Government has decided that since there are not enough MP's who support it, that it's going to see if it can get some more!'
Or words to that effect.
Opposite of Smug City whatever that is.
But he’s up against an impressive get out the vote operation that can eek out 8 Labour votes from every 2 bedroom flat in Tower Hamlets.
It leaves me (as a floating voter, but often Lab in the past) cold.
He might get into the second round, but it's a big step to actually win the thing. I'd put fair odds at maybe 10/1, perhaps even longer.
Which is a great pity, because I think he's the best candidate ever to have stood for London Mayor since the modern post was created. So I hope I'm wrong and he manages to catch the zeitgeist. (I suspect he'll have a lot of support from the Evening Standard, which will help).
No party ticket
Voting history not very London voter centric (Tory policy vs non Tory city)
Pro fox hunting in a liberal, metropolitan election
Odds very much against him imo
Background: neighbours West Mercia gave a year's notice on a strategic alliance deal 361 days ago because Warks have a 50pc say on everything for 30pc of the cost... no deal has been reached on ongoing co-operation, and Warks seem not to be ready to go their own way. (Sound familiar?)
https://www.westmercia-pcc.gov.uk/west-mercia-police-and-warwickshire-police-strategic-alliance/
*My usual assumption is that AndyJS is involved somewhere, but I don't recall...
The government does have a better chance of winning this case because they actuality haven’t broken the law yet and normally courts would only act after that.
There are two cases here though . One is to have an order compelling the PM to sign the extension letter and the other to allow a remedy if he doesn’t by allowing the court to sign on his behalf .
https://twitter.com/tes/status/1180038967300939776