Trougher in anger at snout being removed from trough shock.
Really? You don't think it would be easier for Tory grandees to simply go along with current shite, and carry on guzzling if the swill is all they care about?
You may reference Hancock or Rudd in your answer, if you like.
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In all seriousness, that would've been looking very rosy now. But that's hindsight for you. Works even better with lottery numbers.
This is ethnic cleansing. One person who was found "illegal" had served in the Indian Army for 30 years. Another was the brother of ex Indian President. All these 1.9m people are, of course, Muslims. The indian government has not criticized Myanmar for the expulsion of Rohingya people.
Barring an electoral shock imminently I think it will be sustainable for the simple reason that realpolitik means it has to be sustainable.
However we leave our path and our leaders will be tied to that. Their fate will ride on that. So they need to make it work.
Plus I think we are too damn stubborn to admit otherwise.
Stubbornness is certainly a factor. I have been surprised by how long people have maintained their state of denial. Which is why we haven't left yet.
No Deal isn't an end state. It's the absence of agreement. Eventually people in the UK will need to decide it can live with ongoing EU demands so it can have a working relationship or the EU stops making demands. The second is highly unlikely.
I don't expect Brexit be cancelled. I expect it to lead to the UK as a subservient satellite of the EU. Which is a crap thing to be, and not at all what Leavers voted for. But we can live with it.
But you also feel that Scottish independence will happen, so "the UK as a subservient satellite of the EU" cannot be the end state either.
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In all seriousness, that would've been looking very rosy now. But that's hindsight for you. Works even better with lottery numbers.
My first vanilla race weekend for a while. I guess I can just sit back and relax and see whether Le Clerc bottles it again.
On the news that Boris nee Cummings intends making any vote on an extension an effective vonc and dismissal for any conservative who fails to vote for the government one of my sons summed it up very well
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
On the news that Boris nee Cummings intends making any vote on an extension an effective vonc and dismissal for any consrervative who fails to vote for the government one of my sons summed it up very well
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
On the news that Boris nee Cummings intends making any vote on an extension an effective vonc and dismissal for any conservative who fails to vote for the government one of my sons summed it up very well
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
Reckon that is very good to be honest
It needs a bit of work, actually. Brick walls don't respond well to game-theory wheezes.
This is ethnic cleansing. One person who was found "illegal" had served in the Indian Army for 30 years. Another was the brother of ex Indian President. All these 1.9m people are, of course, Muslims. The indian government has not criticized Myanmar for the expulsion of Rohingya people.
No, its bureaucracy. Moreover you know its that, and I really object to the fact you've tagged it as truly horrible thing.
I will agree entirely that there's a danger that these matters spill over into the type of horrible things you suggest, but it is just an administrative thing currently.
Earlier this week I had a conversation with a Bangladeshi man who I've known for decades. He's rather disappointed in the state of his country - far too much corruption for example. If India finds itself importing that then it's entirely reasonable for them to try to draw a line.
We have Hadrian's wall after all, no idea why it's not heavily manned
On the news that Boris nee Cummings intends making any vote on an extension an effective vonc and dismissal for any conservative who fails to vote for the government one of my sons summed it up very well
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
Reckon that is very good to be honest
More like the steering wheel, the brakes, their clothes, their wallet and mobile phone.
Anyone have an idea why the fall has flatlined? I haven't looked at international figures.
Perhaps we've reached a plateau where the technology itself is much safer and therefore the number of deaths is due to sheer bad driving? How many accidents are now caused by burst tyres, failed brakes or ignition fires compared to stupid overtaking or drunkenness compared to 1970?
This was discussed at length on my most recent Speed Awareness course. The conclusion was that all the easy gains had now been made, and from here on it's just a question improving driving standards.
That's not easily done.
ABS saved my life once, and that was shortly after they had been introduced, so I need no persuasion of the influence of technical improvements.
A big factor in the reduction since 1970 is the change in attitudes to drinking. When I were a lad, having a skinful and then driving home was considered a bit of a lark. Young drivers these days seem to have a bit more sense.
I doubt we'll see much more of a fall in the death numbers until self-driving cars start to come in.
On the news that Boris nee Cummings intends making any vote on an extension an effective vonc and dismissal for any consrervative who fails to vote for the government one of my sons summed it up very well
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
Reckon that is very good to be honest
That comes from a tweet earlier this week.
Really. Will have words with my youngest but he obviously follows twitter
This is ethnic cleansing. One person who was found "illegal" had served in the Indian Army for 30 years. Another was the brother of ex Indian President. All these 1.9m people are, of course, Muslims. The indian government has not criticized Myanmar for the expulsion of Rohingya people.
No, its bureaucracy. Moreover you know its that, and I really object to the fact you've tagged it as truly horrible thing.
I will agree entirely that there's a danger that these matters spill over into the type of horrible things you suggest, but it is just an administrative thing currently.
Earlier this week I had a conversation with a Bangladeshi man who I've known for decades. He's rather disappointed in the state of his country - far too much corruption for example. If India finds itself importing that then it's entirely reasonable for them to try to draw a line.
We have Hadrian's wall after all, no idea why it's not heavily manned
Because the Scots are still prepared to let us come up for the time being.
On the news that Boris nee Cummings intends making any vote on an extension an effective vonc and dismissal for any conservative who fails to vote for the government one of my sons summed it up very well
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
Reckon that is very good to be honest
It needs a bit of work, actually. Brick walls don't respond well to game-theory wheezes.
Anyone have an idea why the fall has flatlined? I haven't looked at international figures.
Perhaps we've reached a plateau where the technology itself is much safer and therefore the number of deaths is due to sheer bad driving? How many accidents are now caused by burst tyres, failed brakes or ignition fires compared to stupid overtaking or drunkenness compared to 1970?
This was discussed at length on my most recent Speed Awareness course. The conclusion was that all the easy gains had now been made, and from here on it's just a question improving driving standards.
That's not easily done.
A big factor in the reduction since 1970 is the change in attitudes to drinking.
On the news that Boris nee Cummings intends making any vote on an extension an effective vonc and dismissal for any conservative who fails to vote for the government one of my sons summed it up very well
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
Reckon that is very good to be honest
It’s another illustration that Dominic Cummings ain’t that bright. First, any would-be rebel will already have factored in their likely expulsion. And secondly, the threat to overrule supportive local parties is going to be badly received and is of very questionable legality. It shows how weak the centre is, not how strong.
This is ethnic cleansing. One person who was found "illegal" had served in the Indian Army for 30 years. Another was the brother of ex Indian President. All these 1.9m people are, of course, Muslims. The indian government has not criticized Myanmar for the expulsion of Rohingya people.
No, its bureaucracy. Moreover you know its that, and I really object to the fact you've tagged it as truly horrible thing.
I will agree entirely that there's a danger that these matters spill over into the type of horrible things you suggest, but it is just an administrative thing currently.
Earlier this week I had a conversation with a Bangladeshi man who I've known for decades. He's rather disappointed in the state of his country - far too much corruption for example. If India finds itself importing that then it's entirely reasonable for them to try to draw a line.
We have Hadrian's wall after all, no idea why it's not heavily manned
Because the Scots are still prepared to let us come up for the time being.
Happily so too. A most beautiful country, and populated by a people who are the most fun to wind up on the planet.
This is ethnic cleansing. One person who was found "illegal" had served in the Indian Army for 30 years. Another was the brother of ex Indian President. All these 1.9m people are, of course, Muslims. The indian government has not criticized Myanmar for the expulsion of Rohingya people.
No, its bureaucracy. Moreover you know its that, and I really object to the fact you've tagged it as truly horrible thing.
I will agree entirely that there's a danger that these matters spill over into the type of horrible things you suggest, but it is just an administrative thing currently.
Earlier this week I had a conversation with a Bangladeshi man who I've known for decades. He's rather disappointed in the state of his country - far too much corruption for example. If India finds itself importing that then it's entirely reasonable for them to try to draw a line.
We have Hadrian's wall after all, no idea why it's not heavily manned
On the news that Boris nee Cummings intends making any vote on an extension an effective vonc and dismissal for any conservative who fails to vote for the government one of my sons summed it up very well
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
Reckon that is very good to be honest
It needs a bit of work, actually. Brick walls don't respond well to game-theory wheezes.
Boris playing chicken: hps://youtu.be/u7hZ9jKrwvo
I just googled to see what became of Sal Mineo. Has there ever been a more ill-fated trio?
Trougher in anger at snout being removed from trough shock.
Really? You don't think it would be easier for Tory grandees to simply go along with current shite, and carry on guzzling if the swill is all they care about?
You may reference Hancock or Rudd in your answer, if you like.
It must be said that for pro-EU British politicians, the EU and its patronage represent a potentially lucrative second career. Many of those currently fighting tooth and nail against Brexit stand to lose a good deal financially if UK citizens can longer benefit from EU patronage. This may not be their primary motivation, but it would be a strange person who wasn't frustrated to see their reward for years of assiduous support for the EU project evaporate in one democratic event.
The Survation VI numbers are close to the YouGov numbers which many mean the period of polling volatility is easing as Boris establishes a solid lead but the vagaries of UNS or USE-less as I call it (Uniform Swing Estimation) make it harder to quantify that nice majority for which Johnson supporters are yearning.
They are pretty identical really: i.e. Survation (UK) Con 31, Lab 24, LD 21, Brexit 14, SNP 4, Plaid 1, Green 3, Other 3. YouGov (GB) Con 33, Lab 22, LD 21, Brexit 12, SNP 4, Plaid 1, Green 7, Other 1.
With Survation, Greens are down to 3% and there is next to no remaining scope for Lab (or LD) to advance by squeezing the Greens. Survation but not YouGov prompt for Greens so the difference in Green share readily explains their higher Lab share.
The combined Con/Brexit share of 45 is identical in both polls, although it would be about 46.2% on a GB basis with Survation, and the Con share would be about 0.8% higher. There is a lot of potential still for a Brexit Party squeeze to boost Con - both companies prompt still for the BP.
I mean YouGov but not Survation prompt for Greens.
Good analysis, thanks! What we don't know here is how far the Lab/LD vote varies by constituency (both for demographic/traditional reasons and deliberate tactical voting). 43-45% (46-50% with Greens) would be a scary bloc for the Tories if they all concentrated in each seat, which of course they won't. But that 7-11% lead is not what it seems, unless the Tories are lucky enough that Lab and LD voters split exactly equally in every seat.
The same applies to the BXP vote, as you say, though it seems fairly sticky - what on earth does Johnson have to do to squeeze it down to 5??
On the news that Boris nee Cummings intends making any vote on an extension an effective vonc and dismissal for any conservative who fails to vote for the government one of my sons summed it up very well
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
Reckon that is very good to be honest
It’s another illustration that Dominic Cummings ain’t that bright. First, any would-be rebel will already have factored in their likely expulsion. And secondly, the threat to overrule supportive local parties is going to be badly received and is of very questionable legality. It shows how weak the centre is, not how strong.
I think it's boiling down to a a 'route 1' mindset Alastair. The 'story' is;
"Parliament has had its chance, and a fat lot of good they've been. The Government is just delivering on the referendum. We want a deal, but if that's not available then no-deal delivers the referendum result equally well. "
That's a pretty straightforwards thing, Moreover there's some truth wrapped up in it.
Now I've no idea whether this sort of narrowing is intentional, but if it is then I think it's not a stupid plan, and in fact I think its rather straightforwards.
I'm actually quite surprised that the LDs (and others) haven't switched to a full-on rejoin campaign. I think it very likely indeed that we could secure a rejoin clause from the EU, and a very nice one too.
The pro-EU forces can then just campaign on a positive message. 'Take up the rejoin offer'. You wouldn't win now, but you may well do so within a few years.
So Government managed Food Banks and rationing here we come.
As I stated last night, I recommend Oxo and Knorr for stock piling.
I do need stock cubes. Are they subject to Brexit disruptable just-in-time supply chains too?
They're subject to panic-buying, like everything else in the shops!
Two people missing the joke now...when will it end.
This is too serious a matter for joking.
I have a serious surplus of Oxo reduced salt chicken and could do with some Knorr beef. If anyone would like to barter, perhaps we could set up a stock exchange?
The Survation VI numbers are close to the YouGov numbers which many mean the period of polling volatility is easing as Boris establishes a solid lead but the vagaries of UNS or USE-less as I call it (Uniform Swing Estimation) make it harder to quantify that nice majority for which Johnson supporters are yearning.
They are pretty identical really: i.e. Survation (UK) Con 31, Lab 24, LD 21, Brexit 14, SNP 4, Plaid 1, Green 3, Other 3. YouGov (GB) Con 33, Lab 22, LD 21, Brexit 12, SNP 4, Plaid 1, Green 7, Other 1.
With Survation, Greens are down to 3% and there is next to no remaining scope for Lab (or LD) to advance by squeezing the Greens. Survation but not YouGov prompt for Greens so the difference in Green share readily explains their higher Lab share.
The combined Con/Brexit share of 45 is identical in both polls, although it would be about 46.2% on a GB basis with Survation, and the Con share would be about 0.8% higher. There is a lot of potential still for a Brexit Party squeeze to boost Con - both companies prompt still for the BP.
I mean YouGov but not Survation prompt for Greens.
Good analysis, thanks! What we don't know here is how far the Lab/LD vote varies by constituency (both for demographic/traditional reasons and deliberate tactical voting). 43-45% (46-50% with Greens) would be a scary bloc for the Tories if they all concentrated in each seat, which of course they won't. But that 7-11% lead is not what it seems, unless the Tories are lucky enough that Lab and LD voters split exactly equally in every seat.
The same applies to the BXP vote, as you say, though it seems fairly sticky - what on earth does Johnson have to do to squeeze it down to 5??
I don't think it is as bad as it looks for the Tories. You might well say Brexit Party in a poll, but faced with the actual risk of letting Labour in in the voting booth think twice. But that also applies the other way to the Labour inclined Brexit supporters who must be reasonably numerous even if we all ignore them.
So Government managed Food Banks and rationing here we come.
As I stated last night, I recommend Oxo and Knorr for stock piling.
I do need stock cubes. Are they subject to Brexit disruptable just-in-time supply chains too?
They're subject to panic-buying, like everything else in the shops!
Two people missing the joke now...when will it end.
This is too serious a matter for joking.
I have a serious surplus of Oxo reduced salt chicken and could do with some Knorr beef. If anyone would like to barter, perhaps we could set up a stock exchange?
This is ethnic cleansing. One person who was found "illegal" had served in the Indian Army for 30 years. Another was the brother of ex Indian President. All these 1.9m people are, of course, Muslims. The indian government has not criticized Myanmar for the expulsion of Rohingya people.
No, its bureaucracy. Moreover you know its that, and I really object to the fact you've tagged it as truly horrible thing.
I will agree entirely that there's a danger that these matters spill over into the type of horrible things you suggest, but it is just an administrative thing currently.
Earlier this week I had a conversation with a Bangladeshi man who I've known for decades. He's rather disappointed in the state of his country - far too much corruption for example. If India finds itself importing that then it's entirely reasonable for them to try to draw a line.
We have Hadrian's wall after all, no idea why it's not heavily manned
Because the Scots are still prepared to let us come up for the time being.
Happily so too. A most beautiful country, and populated by a people who are the most fun to wind up on the planet.
I thought that was Brexiteers? Though perhaps because we have a proportionally smaller number up here it's just the novelty value.
So Government managed Food Banks and rationing here we come.
As I stated last night, I recommend Oxo and Knorr for stock piling.
I do need stock cubes. Are they subject to Brexit disruptable just-in-time supply chains too?
They're subject to panic-buying, like everything else in the shops!
Two people missing the joke now...when will it end.
This is too serious a matter for joking.
I have a serious surplus of Oxo reduced salt chicken and could do with some Knorr beef. If anyone would like to barter, perhaps we could set up a stock exchange?
If India is doing so well relative to Bangladesh, then how come
India is evolving in a certain way and Bangladesh is too. I don't know much about this, so I'll tell you my thoughts, and they may be right or wrong.
India is trying to find a way to be governed. They have hanging over them this weird period where a small number of white people somehow arrived at an almost magical government in some ways. Exploitation isn't though a basis for stability.
Bangladesh is way younger. A most astonishing country. They just need to choose to build their country.
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You may reference Hancock or Rudd in your answer, if you like.
In all seriousness, that would've been looking very rosy now. But that's hindsight for you. Works even better with lottery numbers.
The indian government has not criticized Myanmar for the expulsion of Rohingya people.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/soldier-for-30-years-assam-man-arrested-as-illegal-immigrant-2045049
We'll see what happens.
'No deal is like a game of dare with two cars hurtling towards a brick wall each unbending but in Boris nee Cummings case they have thrown out of their windows the steering wheel and brakes'
Reckon that is very good to be honest
I will agree entirely that there's a danger that these matters spill over into the type of horrible things you suggest, but it is just an administrative thing currently.
Earlier this week I had a conversation with a Bangladeshi man who I've known for decades. He's rather disappointed in the state of his country - far too much corruption for example. If India finds itself importing that then it's entirely reasonable for them to try to draw a line.
We have Hadrian's wall after all, no idea why it's not heavily manned
A big factor in the reduction since 1970 is the change in attitudes to drinking. When I were a lad, having a skinful and then driving home was considered a bit of a lark. Young drivers these days seem to have a bit more sense.
I doubt we'll see much more of a fall in the death numbers until self-driving cars start to come in.
https://twitter.com/ProfTomkins/status/1167811819999772672?s=20
https://youtu.be/u7hZ9jKrwvo
Le Clerc just hit evens but when I logged in it was gone. So I've offered up my own evens and it's getting nibbled into. Nobody undercut me please.
Let's hope he doesn't bottle it this time.
https://twitter.com/IsabelHardman/status/1167812621040590848?s=20
If India is doing so well relative to Bangladesh, then how come 1 INR which was equal to 1.72 BDT in February 2012 is now 1 INR = 1.18 BDT today. Why such a slide in just 7 years.
Bangladesh is the fastest growing economy in South Asia and the idea that Bangladeshis, particularly Muslims, will migrate to India [ particularly the very poor Eastern states ] is a fiction. This is nothing but a Hindu Nationalist BJP agenda [ opposed by almost all political parties in India ]. More so, after Amit Shah, the butcher of Gujarat became Home MInister recently. You have to ask why Modi and Amit Shah were banned from entering the UK and US for 9 years.
https://www.businessinsider.com/concerns-about-modis-rise-to-power-2014-5?r=US&IR=T
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-narendra-modi-was-banned-from-the-u-s-1399062010
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
The same applies to the BXP vote, as you say, though it seems fairly sticky - what on earth does Johnson have to do to squeeze it down to 5??
Off Farage perhaps. But I'm pro-Farage so let's hope he doesn't.
"Parliament has had its chance, and a fat lot of good they've been. The Government is just delivering on the referendum. We want a deal, but if that's not available then no-deal delivers the referendum result equally well. "
That's a pretty straightforwards thing, Moreover there's some truth wrapped up in it.
Now I've no idea whether this sort of narrowing is intentional, but if it is then I think it's not a stupid plan, and in fact I think its rather straightforwards.
I'm actually quite surprised that the LDs (and others) haven't switched to a full-on rejoin campaign. I think it very likely indeed that we could secure a rejoin clause from the EU, and a very nice one too.
The pro-EU forces can then just campaign on a positive message. 'Take up the rejoin offer'. You wouldn't win now, but you may well do so within a few years.
I have a serious surplus of Oxo reduced salt chicken and could do with some Knorr beef. If anyone would like to barter, perhaps we could set up a stock exchange?
Also new thread.
Though perhaps because we have a proportionally smaller number up here it's just the novelty value.
I'll get my coat and go to the new thread.
https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/1167820850239811584?s=20
India is trying to find a way to be governed. They have hanging over them this weird period where a small number of white people somehow arrived at an almost magical government in some ways. Exploitation isn't though a basis for stability.
Bangladesh is way younger. A most astonishing country. They just need to choose to build their country.