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Answers on one side of the paper only, please, to the UK electorate
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Expecting the defections to start happening.
2) They don't, and do not expect it to
3) They couldn't.
I cannot understand why anyone would wish to destabilise the economy and further erode trust in Democracy other than Putin and his cronies....
A truly depressing day of politics. Not that any side cares about the high ground, but we are delving into the depths of it now, as party fanatics tell us all how great it is.
I do repeat my earlier question of why we have not seen more defections among local politicians over the past year - defections are relatively common in local politics anyway, so even though it is perfectly possible for a group to keep their heads down even as the national party, whichever one, transforms into something else, as it is not directly relevant to them, I'd have expected to see some more drama at such a level as it is also easier for such people to make the jump than MPs.
The electorate see two camps prepared to shit on any doorstep to get what they want.
https://twitter.com/oletwinofficial/status/1166707027168694272?s=21
5. If not, why not?
6. If so, what then?
There has already been a referendum.
I actually support the FTPA and ideally there shouldn't be a GE until May/June 2022.
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1166711208700981249
Incidentally, one of the last times I remember that three PCs used Orders in Council to such effect was the Falklands, when the three PCs were Thatcher, Nott and Tebbit and the Orders authorised the task-force. Can anybody remember another?
The monarch and the monarchy have been popular, but just wait until the No Deal shit hits the fan: she, and her reputation, are going to get absolutely covered in the stinking smatter.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/49488234
Everybody seems to be on about CBD oil these days. Is there any hard science behind the claims? I know all the CBD drinks, coffees etc are a bunch of horseshit due to the very low levels, but the pure stuff? Has there been some actual peer reviewed studies or is it anecdotal?
Boris is trying to force a decision through - by restricting any final decision to whatever deal he can cobble together against No Deal.
Everyone else needs to remove No Deal from the table before that final decision is made. Only if the final decision is Deal v No Deal do you want to bin Boris and bring someone else in to extend
https://twitter.com/AbiWilks/status/1166796539664240640
Love it, hope they completely destroy their credibility in the eyes of younger voters.
Edit: Not sure but this might be the same guy...
https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1145747419264503808
I think he really struggles with the job of fact checker, propagandist is a more fitting title.
More on topic this live feed of parliament square protests is mildly entertaining...
https://twitter.com/sohoite/status/1166805375225647105
She is seen - whether unfairly or not - to be enabling an act of constitutional theft.
Boris has faced Parliament for just ONE day so far, and he has not yet faced a SINGLE vote. His very Premiership rests on the flimsiest of constitutional conventions, and his majority exists only hypothetically.
The correct approach by the Queen would have been to delay somehow, perhaps to seek wider advice from her Privy Councillors.
This is a terrible day for democracy in this country, and indeed for the Union.
I tend to agree though that this is also terrible optics for Brexit. The whole project is now so toxic it is like a political Chernobyl.
Time for the gilet jaunes to mobilise.
And given Boris moves today, does anyone really think he will take any notice? Hes clearly prepared to utilise the reserved powers to their fullest extent, which gives him a lot of clout. And thrusts us into very uncertain times.
They had a deal, they chose to play politics and party advantages, Emporer Boris is their love child.
2 At the moment this question is about an unknown quantity and cannot be rationally answered either in positive or negative terms by anyone.
3 Irrelevant. The matter has had intense parliamentary scrutiny and the current position arises precisely out of the results of parliament's decisions thus far. A deal will come back to parliament for it to accept or reject. That is current government policy. Stalinism it ain't.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2015/09/11/some-fashion-advice-for-jeremy-corbyn/
Their entire strategy is reliant on one of
- the EU caving or getting a fudged withdrawal agreement through
- a VONC and an election before 31 October or an extension by someone other than Boris after an election
- no dealing on 31 October and it all being fine actually
The first seems unlikely given the lack of desire of the EU/ERG/labour leavers to compromise and the second relies on the Labour party walking into an obvious bear trap rather than "trying our best but unfortunately not having the numbers in parliament to stop no deal".
If we no deal on 31 October the government will immediately lose a VONC and holding an election 1-2 months after crashing out of the EU seems a little brave.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157?fbclid=IwAR0xZDEcMTEMXUJ6Ipm10EOt8SkWZL5IuEK8rceZPhuoRtyqvOCk-C-vbnA
The petition says that "Parliament will consider this for debate".
Forgive my ignorance, but if Parliament were prorogued could it actually discuss such a petition?
He wants to be "forced" into an election and play the victim but it is essential for that plan to succeed that it happens before Oct 31st. After that he has to go No Deal or panic and backtrack and either of those courses of action stand to lose him substantial numbers of votes.
As I've stated for a while there is no way anyone is going to accept an election now without insisting on an extension - and an extension is toxic for Boris.
Hence No election is possible.
2. Inertia is the most powerful force in politics. Once it is done it is done and it will go back to being a minority interest
3. Get a grip. It’s 4 f*****g days. After Bercow and others have abused parliamentary procedure
At a minimum it's 8 days and that depends on when the proroguing begins. It's possible that it begins on September 9th which removes another 3 days of debates.
Between those items it reduces Parliament from 25 days of sitting where things were editable down to 14.
This is the thing - as much as I detest what Boris has done, there is action they can still take and I hope they take it rather than simply getting outraged.