I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
They, like other billionaires, buy influence and try to shape the agenda.
Yep, democracy up for sale is precisely my point. We are in an age where the covert manipulation of information by agents like Cambridge Analytica and Putin's front organisations is the new normal.
Of course no one wants to admit being manipulated themselves, we are all too awake for that surely. Or are we?
Isnt this simply "Targeted advertising* ?
Yes, and the commercial variety is as sinister as the political sort. All political adverts should be published openly and registered so they can be refuted and disputed. Otherwise we have a political world rather like a silent disco, with no one communicating.
Yeah, a shame it took forever for the electoral commission to take action against Led by Donkeys.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
It also shows how all trade deals impinge on sovereignty. We use our money to influence others.
I am glad that Bozo has backed Macron on this, it shows some rare good judgement on his part.
It is rather Orwellian for a Far Right organisation to shut up its critics by accusing them of being McCarthyites. It rather misses the point of what McCarthy did.
There is a lot of shadowy funding of rightwing political thinktanks. It would be very interesting to see their accounts.
Have the Lib Dems repaid the bent money they got from Michael Brown?
You see, if they did that, they would be giving money to a convicted fraudster. And that would be wrong
US cos can't trade with Iran, N Korea and a couple of others but I don't know if adding to that list is a solely presidential ability.
Those are legislated for, covered by sanctions, or due to things like arms control regulations. If Stable Genius Trump wants to stop Apple making iPhones in China he will need to do more than lose his rag on Twitter.
They, like other billionaires, buy influence and try to shape the agenda.
Yep, democracy up for sale is precisely my point. We are in an age where the covert manipulation of information by agents like Cambridge Analytica and Putin's front organisations is the new normal.
Of course no one wants to admit being manipulated themselves, we are all too awake for that surely. Or are we?
Isnt this simply "Targeted advertising* ?
Yes, and the commercial variety is as sinister as the political sort. All political adverts should be published openly and registered so they can be refuted and disputed. Otherwise we have a political world rather like a silent disco, with no one communicating.
Yeah, a shame it took forever for the electoral commission to take action against Led by Donkeys.
Led by Donkeys have certainly openly published their pieces!
They, like other billionaires, buy influence and try to shape the agenda.
Yep, democracy up for sale is precisely my point. We are in an age where the covert manipulation of information by agents like Cambridge Analytica and Putin's front organisations is the new normal.
Of course no one wants to admit being manipulated themselves, we are all too awake for that surely. Or are we?
Isnt this simply "Targeted advertising* ?
Yes, and the commercial variety is as sinister as the political sort. All political adverts should be published openly and registered so they can be refuted and disputed. Otherwise we have a political world rather like a silent disco, with no one communicating.
Yeah, a shame it took forever for the electoral commission to take action against Led by Donkeys.
Led by Donkeys have certainly openly published their pieces!
But it took a lot of digging to find out who they actually were. Interesting how lax the commission were, when they were so eager to investigate BXP finances. Whatever happened to that investigation, anyway? It seemed so urgent at the time....
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
It is rather Orwellian for a Far Right organisation to shut up its critics by accusing them of being McCarthyites. It rather misses the point of what McCarthy did.
There is a lot of shadowy funding of rightwing political thinktanks. It would be very interesting to see their accounts.
Have the Lib Dems repaid the bent money they got from Michael Brown?
You see, if they did that, they would be giving money to a convicted fraudster. And that would be wrong
May be they could give it to Age Concern? After all Michael Brown stole it from pensioners
They, like other billionaires, buy influence and try to shape the agenda.
Yep, democracy up for sale is precisely my point. We are in an age where the covert manipulation of information by agents like Cambridge Analytica and Putin's front organisations is the new normal.
Of course no one wants to admit being manipulated themselves, we are all too awake for that surely. Or are we?
Isnt this simply "Targeted advertising* ?
Yes, and the commercial variety is as sinister as the political sort. All political adverts should be published openly and registered so they can be refuted and disputed. Otherwise we have a political world rather like a silent disco, with no one communicating.
Yeah, a shame it took forever for the electoral commission to take action against Led by Donkeys.
Led by Donkeys have certainly openly published their pieces!
But it took a lot of digging to find out who they actually were. Interesting how lax the commission were, when they were so eager to investigate BXP finances. Whatever happened to that investigation, anyway? It seemed so urgent at the time....
Also, even though the individuals behind it have been revealed, the crowd funding was led by several large anonymous donors. Same as Mr Stop Brexit.
They, like other billionaires, buy influence and try to shape the agenda.
Yep, democracy up for sale is precisely my point. We are in an age where the covert manipulation of information by agents like Cambridge Analytica and Putin's front organisations is the new normal.
Of course no one wants to admit being manipulated themselves, we are all too awake for that surely. Or are we?
Isnt this simply "Targeted advertising* ?
Yes, and the commercial
Yeah, a shame it took forever for the electoral commission to take action against Led by Donkeys.
Led by Donkeys have certainly openly published their pieces!
But it took a lot of digging to find out who they actually were. Interesting how lax the commission were, when they were so eager to investigate BXP finances. Whatever happened to that investigation, anyway? It seemed so urgent at the time....
Also, even though the individuals behind it have been revealed, the crowd funding was led by several large anonymous donors. Same as Mr Stop Brexit.
Yes, we need more transparency all round, the TPA are famously reticent on the subject. Methinks that they are not funded by taxpayers like me, but rather by people who pay little or no UK tax.
I am happy to be proven wrong when they come clean.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
I find it very hard to see any distinction between the idea of "pulling developing nations up" and Kipling's concept of the White Man's Burden. Brazilians may be brown, but that doesn't preclude them from forming their own views on things.
It is rather Orwellian for a Far Right organisation to shut up its critics by accusing them of being McCarthyites. It rather misses the point of what McCarthy did.
There is a lot of shadowy funding of rightwing political thinktanks. It would be very interesting to see their accounts.
Have the Lib Dems repaid the bent money they got from Michael Brown?
You see, if they did that, they would be giving money to a convicted fraudster. And that would be wrong
May be they could give it to Age Concern? After all Michael Brown stole it from pensioners
Was distressed to realise the other day that the qualifying age for help from Age Concern was 50
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
That something I've been suggesting for 10+ years without receiving much support.
I suppose that when it was only Western manufacturing workers who were losing out fewer people were bothered than when some trees in the Amazon catch fire.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
The Amazon is a global asset that happens to be based largely in Brazil. Macron has levers that may help protect that asset or at least not reward those deliberately harming it. He is using them. That is power. Good for him.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
The Amazon is a global asset that happens to be based largely in Brazil. Macron has levers that may help protect that asset or at least not reward those deliberately harming it. He is using them. That is power. Good for him.
An extraordinarily patronising neo colonial mindset. Like all that rubber was a global asset thaty happened to be based largely in the Congo.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
The Amazon is a global asset that happens to be based largely in Brazil. Macron has levers that may help protect that asset or at least not reward those deliberately harming it. He is using them. That is power. Good for him.
An extraordinarily patronising neo colonial mindset. Like all that rubber was a global asset thaty happened to be based largely in the Congo.
No, rubber was a resource. The Amazon is a hugely important global lung. Destroying it harms everyone on earth.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
And how many years did it take to form the Amazon rainforest ?
Just got back from Chester. Shame that Durham collapsed like England but my girlfriend from Harrogate is very happy. Had a great time at my first cricket match.
Record attendance there for a 20/20 the World Cup has clearly done some good.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
The Amazon is a global asset that happens to be based largely in Brazil. Macron has levers that may help protect that asset or at least not reward those deliberately harming it. He is using them. That is power. Good for him.
An extraordinarily patronising neo colonial mindset. Like all that rubber was a global asset thaty happened to be based largely in the Congo.
Aren't the neocolonialists the Brazilians driving indigenous peoples out so that they can seize their lands and rape their resources?
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
The Amazon is a global asset that happens to be based largely in Brazil. Macron has levers that may help protect that asset or at least not reward those deliberately harming it. He is using them. That is power. Good for him.
An extraordinarily patronising neo colonial mindset. Like all that rubber was a global asset thaty happened to be based largely in the Congo.
Are we colonially trying to cut down and extract the timber from the Amazon?
Or are we talking about keeping intact the lungs of our planet that life relies upon?
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
The Amazon is a global asset that happens to be based largely in Brazil. Macron has levers that may help protect that asset or at least not reward those deliberately harming it. He is using them. That is power. Good for him.
An extraordinarily patronising neo colonial mindset. Like all that rubber was a global asset thaty happened to be based largely in the Congo.
Aren't the neocolonialists the Brazilians driving indigenous peoples out so that they can seize their lands and rape their resources?
They might be; I don't know, nor do you. I am suspicious of the speed with which we have all gone from knowing bugger all about it to 100% expertise and 100% outrage in about 24 hours. And I think Macron's claim that Bolsonaro "lied to him" (in, presumably, an off the record, informal and private conversation) is so infantile and self important that Donald Trump could have said it.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
The Amazon is a global asset that happens to be based largely in Brazil. Macron has levers that may help protect that asset or at least not reward those deliberately harming it. He is using them. That is power. Good for him.
An extraordinarily patronising neo colonial mindset. Like all that rubber was a global asset thaty happened to be based largely in the Congo.
Aren't the neocolonialists the Brazilians driving indigenous peoples out so that they can seize their lands and rape their resources?
They might be; I don't know, nor do you. I am suspicious of the speed with which we have all gone from knowing bugger all about it to 100% expertise and 100% outrage in about 24 hours. And I think Macron's claim that Bolsonaro "lied to him" (in, presumably, an off the record, informal and private conversation) is so infantile and self important that Donald Trump could have said it.
You may have only started learning what Bolsonaro is about 24 hours ago. Some of us have been observing for longer. The destruction of the Amozon rainforest featured in the original McLibel pamphlet decades ago.
What are you doing reading that site...which has a record of spreading a whole load of dodgy anti-Semitic stuff.
Don't worry, he will miss all that stuff.
What anti-Semitic story have I ever spread?
Ignore that Fox.....you are about as anti Semite as I am pro Amazon tree deforatsration
I believe it was a criticism of Dorset Eye, not @foxy except in his choice of reading material
I don’t know whether Dorset Eye republished it with permission or not, but that piece is by George Monbiot and originally appeared in the Guardian last November.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has completed a three-week course of radiation therapy for a cancerous tumor on her pancreas and there is no evidence of the disease remaining, the supreme court said Friday.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has completed a three-week course of radiation therapy for a cancerous tumor on her pancreas and there is no evidence of the disease remaining, the supreme court said Friday.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
The Amazon is a global asset that happens to be based largely in Brazil. Macron has levers that may help protect that asset or at least not reward those deliberately harming it. He is using them. That is power. Good for him.
An extraordinarily patronising neo colonial mindset. Like all that rubber was a global asset thaty happened to be based largely in the Congo.
Aren't the neocolonialists the Brazilians driving indigenous peoples out so that they can seize their lands and rape their resources?
They might be; I don't know, nor do you. I am suspicious of the speed with which we have all gone from knowing bugger all about it to 100% expertise and 100% outrage in about 24 hours. And I think Macron's claim that Bolsonaro "lied to him" (in, presumably, an off the record, informal and private conversation) is so infantile and self important that Donald Trump could have said it.
You may have only started learning what Bolsonaro is about 24 hours ago. Some of us have been observing for longer. The destruction of the Amozon rainforest featured in the original McLibel pamphlet decades ago.
The activities of Bolsonaro during his presidency (Feb 2019 onwards) were foreshadowed in a pamphlet from decades ago?
It is rather Orwellian for a Far Right organisation to shut up its critics by accusing them of being McCarthyites. It rather misses the point of what McCarthy did.
There is a lot of shadowy funding of rightwing political thinktanks. It would be very interesting to see their accounts.
Have the Lib Dems repaid the bent money they got from Michael Brown?
You see, if they did that, they would be giving money to a convicted fraudster. And that would be wrong
May be they could give it to Age Concern? After all Michael Brown stole it from pensioners
The money should be returned directly to Michael Brown's victims, and it reflects very poorly on the Liberal Democrats that they have made no attempt to do so.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
And how many years did it take to form the Amazon rainforest ?
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
And how many years did it take to form the Amazon rainforest ?
Although the Amazon is often thought of as pristine nature, over the past few decades, archaeologists have discovered evidence of numerous large, complex societies that may have inhabited Amazonia in the past. While these findings contrast with the small Amazonian societies anthropologists investigated in the 20th century, they are in line with initial eyewitness accounts of Europeans from the 16th and 17th centuries.
I see Macron is vetoing the Mercosur Free Trade agreement unless the Brazilian President turns his back on his manifesto and implements Macron’s preferred environmental policy
(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Seriously....comrade...and your point is????
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
My point is that Bolsanaro is democratically elected.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
And how many years did it take to form the Amazon rainforest ?
They might be; I don't know, nor do you. I am suspicious of the speed with which we have all gone from knowing bugger all about it to 100% expertise and 100% outrage in about 24 hours.
Speak for yourself. Many of us have been all too familiar with developments in the Amazon for a long time, and Bolsanaro appears to be accelerating them. Since that is generally accepted to affect climate change, it's a legitimate concern for all of us.
The trouble with going on about how dreadful Trump is, is that nobody is going on about how wonderful and great any of his opponents is. You need to be for something, not just anti something else.
Yes, shades of 2004 there when voters voted for John Kerry as he was not George W Bush, whereas Bush voters made a positive vote for their man
At this point in his Presidency, George W Bush had net approval of +16.5 vs -12.2. That's a 28.7 percentage point gap. That's absolutely enormous.
The only President to have a lower net approval at this point in their Presidency is Jimmy Carter.
The trouble with going on about how dreadful Trump is, is that nobody is going on about how wonderful and great any of his opponents is. You need to be for something, not just anti something else.
Yes, shades of 2004 there when voters voted for John Kerry as he was not George W Bush, whereas Bush voters made a positive vote for their man
At this point in his Presidency, George W Bush had net approval of +16.5 vs -12.2. That's a 28.7 percentage point gap. That's absolutely enormous.
The only President to have a lower net approval at this point in their Presidency is Jimmy Carter.
They might be; I don't know, nor do you. I am suspicious of the speed with which we have all gone from knowing bugger all about it to 100% expertise and 100% outrage in about 24 hours.
Speak for yourself. Many of us have been all too familiar with developments in the Amazon for a long time, and Bolsanaro appears to be accelerating them. Since that is generally accepted to affect climate change, it's a legitimate concern for all of us.
I have been aware since early infancy *in general terms* of loss of Amazonian rain forest at the rate of n tennis courts per minute/Waleses per year. That doesn't relieve me, or you, of the obligation to know something about the specifics of the present situation before commenting on it.
An anti-Brexit MP has contacted a group of Conservatives telling them to quit and join a new “Remain alliance” or risk facing a targeted campaign to unseat them at a snap general election.
The message was sent to at least 20 pro-European Union Tory MPs by Heidi Allen, a former Tory MP who now sits as an independent.
Why doesn't he f**k off and go and live on Easter island?
I don't agree with him, but I still think there should be a debate, rather than one point of view being assumed to be correct. I know that's very 20th century.
Why doesn't he f**k off and go and live on Easter island?
I don't agree with him, but I still think there should be a debate, rather than one point of view being assumed to be correct. I know that's very 20th century.
Plus I see even Bolsonaro has now agreed to send the army to tackle the forest fires in the Amazon
Why doesn't he f**k off and go and live on Easter island?
I don't agree with him, but I still think there should be a debate, rather than one point of view being assumed to be correct. I know that's very 20th century.
Yes. Fair point. Although, thinking for a moment, that was my debating point!
Why doesn't he f**k off and go and live on Easter island?
I don't agree with him, but I still think there should be a debate, rather than one point of view being assumed to be correct. I know that's very 20th century.
The trouble with this line of argument is it leads to Why shouldn't majority X persecute minority Y? It is their country after all, and they were democratically elected on a clear mandate to persecute Y. And that is very much the case in the Amazon. Line of reasoning you'd expect from a Communist Tbf. Apart from the democratic bit obvs.
The trouble with going on about how dreadful Trump is, is that nobody is going on about how wonderful and great any of his opponents is. You need to be for something, not just anti something else.
Yes, shades of 2004 there when voters voted for John Kerry as he was not George W Bush, whereas Bush voters made a positive vote for their man
At this point in his Presidency, George W Bush had net approval of +16.5 vs -12.2. That's a 28.7 percentage point gap. That's absolutely enormous.
The only President to have a lower net approval at this point in their Presidency is Jimmy Carter.
The trouble with going on about how dreadful Trump is, is that nobody is going on about how wonderful and great any of his opponents is. You need to be for something, not just anti something else.
Yes, shades of 2004 there when voters voted for John Kerry as he was not George W Bush, whereas Bush voters made a positive vote for their man
At this point in his Presidency, George W Bush had net approval of +16.5 vs -12.2. That's a 28.7 percentage point gap. That's absolutely enormous.
The only President to have a lower net approval at this point in their Presidency is Jimmy Carter.
The trouble with going on about how dreadful Trump is, is that nobody is going on about how wonderful and great any of his opponents is. You need to be for something, not just anti something else.
Yes, shades of 2004 there when voters voted for John Kerry as he was not George W Bush, whereas Bush voters made a positive vote for their man
At this point in his Presidency, George W Bush had net approval of +16.5 vs -12.2. That's a 28.7 percentage point gap. That's absolutely enormous.
The only President to have a lower net approval at this point in their Presidency is Jimmy Carter.
The trouble with going on about how dreadful Trump is, is that nobody is going on about how wonderful and great any of his opponents is. You need to be for something, not just anti something else.
Yes, shades of 2004 there when voters voted for John Kerry as he was not George W Bush, whereas Bush voters made a positive vote for their man
At this point in his Presidency, George W Bush had net approval of +16.5 vs -12.2. That's a 28.7 percentage point gap. That's absolutely enormous.
The only President to have a lower net approval at this point in their Presidency is Jimmy Carter.
The trouble with going on about how dreadful Trump is, is that nobody is going on about how wonderful and great any of his opponents is. You need to be for something, not just anti something else.
Yes, shades of 2004 there when voters voted for John Kerry as he was not George W Bush, whereas Bush voters made a positive vote for their man
At this point in his Presidency, George W Bush had net approval of +16.5 vs -12.2. That's a 28.7 percentage point gap. That's absolutely enormous.
The only President to have a lower net approval at this point in their Presidency is Jimmy Carter.
Trump's approval rating at this point of his presidency is also only 1% below Obama's and Reagan's at the same stage of theirs, both were re elected
Net approval for Obama was -8.1, for Trump it's -12.2; that's a three point difference.
Net approval for Reagan was -3.1; so that's a nine point difference.
And there is a fundamental difference. In both 2011 and 1983, the US was emerging from recessions. Things were getting better economically. And as things improved, each President's approval rating climbed.
In the US right now, the economy is slowing. (As it is everywhere in the world.) Now, there are various things Trump can do to turn this around. People are floating a cut to the payroll tax. Or a massive infrastructure programme. Either of these are possible. Both would act as a fiscal stimulus.
But, of course, these things worsen both the US government and trade deficits, because they mean growing consumption more than production. So, Mr Trump: do you want to get the economy moving and get reelected? Or do you want to reduce the US trade deficit, but have a recession?
Of course, if he chooses the former option (which he probably will), then it just moves the day of reckoning back a couple of years.
The trouble with going on about how dreadful Trump is, is that nobody is going on about how wonderful and great any of his opponents is. You need to be for something, not just anti something else.
Yes, shades of 2004 there when voters voted for John Kerry as he was not George W Bush, whereas Bush voters made a positive vote for their man
At this point in his Presidency, George W Bush had net approval of +16.5 vs -12.2. That's a 28.7 percentage point gap. That's absolutely enormous.
The only President to have a lower net approval at this point in their Presidency is Jimmy Carter.
Trump's approval rating at this point of his presidency is also only 1% below Obama's and Reagan's at the same stage of theirs, both were re elected
How's his negatives?
Only 3% higher than Obama's at the same stage of his presidency, at this point in 2011 there really was a good chance of President Romney
I hope you aren't as correct as you were about Boris my friend.
We will see but I remain of the view that only Biden can stop Trump being re elected and I think the Democrats will pick Warren instead
I think the number of times the nominee has made more than a nominal difference in the last 60 years is... one or two. Probably Hillary. And that's about it.
Simply, when the economy is growing and everyone is happy, the ruling party gets reelected. When it is slowing, and people are angry, they don't.
2008 - Global Financial Crisis and recession 2000 - TMT Bubble Bursts and recession 1992 - Just after the early 1990s recession 1980 - 70s recession 1976 - Wategate scandal and oil shock etc.
Will a UK-Australia deal make the Withdrawal Agreement impossible? I could easily imagine a conflict between, for example, the agricultural rules they agree to and what the EU would demand.
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(This isn’t a comment in the rightness or wrongness of their climate change views, but of the downside being tied into a single body for trade deals)
Rarely has a US President stuck up taxes so much by a whim. The MAGA bunch don't even seem to realise these are taxes paid by Americans!
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49450245
The upside (which you might not have considered) is possibly that through trading deals we can pull developing nations into making better environmental and labour reforms....
I am glad that Bozo has backed Macron on this, it shows some rare good judgement on his part.
The Mercosur Agreement has taken 20 years to negotiate.
Now Macron is threatening to throw all that work away because he doesn’t like the policies of another President.
I am happy to be proven wrong when they come clean.
I suppose that when it was only Western manufacturing workers who were losing out fewer people were bothered than when some trees in the Amazon catch fire.
Record attendance there for a 20/20 the World Cup has clearly done some good.
Or are we talking about keeping intact the lungs of our planet that life relies upon?
https://twitter.com/WritesTruths/status/1165031959137050624?s=20
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has completed a three-week course of radiation therapy for a cancerous tumor on her pancreas and there is no evidence of the disease remaining, the supreme court said Friday.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/23/ruth-bader-ginsburg-cancer-tumor-treatment
Yep. Nothing to do with a stream of 'China is the Enemy' tweets.
Trump becoming a bit needy?
https://www.livescience.com/51631-ancient-amazon-rainforest-agriculture.html
"Why shouldn’t Brazilians burn down trees?
The Western hysteria over the rainforest fires is riddled with colonial arrogance.
Brendan O'Neill"
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/08/23/why-shouldnt-brazilians-burn-down-trees/
I have been aware since early infancy *in general terms* of loss of Amazonian rain forest at the rate of n tennis courts per minute/Waleses per year. That doesn't relieve me, or you, of the obligation to know something about the specifics of the present situation before commenting on it.
The message was sent to at least 20 pro-European Union Tory MPs by Heidi Allen, a former Tory MP who now sits as an independent.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/23/heidi-allen-has-told-tories-join-remain-alliance-face-electoral/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-49452789
And that is very much the case in the Amazon.
Line of reasoning you'd expect from a Communist Tbf. Apart from the democratic bit obvs.
Edit: O'Neills argument not yours of course.
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1165023641442095104?s=20
Net approval for Reagan was -3.1; so that's a nine point difference.
And there is a fundamental difference. In both 2011 and 1983, the US was emerging from recessions. Things were getting better economically. And as things improved, each President's approval rating climbed.
In the US right now, the economy is slowing. (As it is everywhere in the world.) Now, there are various things Trump can do to turn this around. People are floating a cut to the payroll tax. Or a massive infrastructure programme. Either of these are possible. Both would act as a fiscal stimulus.
But, of course, these things worsen both the US government and trade deficits, because they mean growing consumption more than production. So, Mr Trump: do you want to get the economy moving and get reelected? Or do you want to reduce the US trade deficit, but have a recession?
Of course, if he chooses the former option (which he probably will), then it just moves the day of reckoning back a couple of years.
Simply, when the economy is growing and everyone is happy, the ruling party gets reelected. When it is slowing, and people are angry, they don't.
2008 - Global Financial Crisis and recession
2000 - TMT Bubble Bursts and recession
1992 - Just after the early 1990s recession
1980 - 70s recession
1976 - Wategate scandal and oil shock
etc.
Schools set for long-awaited cash injection
There are suggestions that some £4bn in extra funding, as a one-off, one-year cash injection, could be announced as early as next week.
https://www.bbc.com/news/education-49450745
https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/339629/mayor-pete-scores-highest-email-read-rate-among-de.html