My guess is that anyone attacking Turkey or Latvia would not stop there. I’m also pretty sure that such an attack would not be isolated, would have major regional ripple effects, would lead to huge and sustained economic and financial turmoil, and would cause significant movements of people across borders. For these reasons, I think it’s best to deter such attacks. Jeremy Corbyn would agree with you, though.
Are you willing to pick up a rifle and fight in the fields of Latvia or in the mountains of Turkey?
The Soviet Union no longer exists. What exactly is NATO for? If another threat were to arise in the world, sure we could look at another pact with relevant countries. But NATO is defunct in 2019.
The main threat to the balance of power in Europe today is again Germany, which ironically we've pushed to extending - via the EU - its economic and political power all the way to the Russian border. Any sensible British foreign policy would be aimed at containing Germany.
Ah, you’re a Trumpian loon. So a new-style Tory, not a High Tory.
He is not a conservative. He is a UKIPPER ( TBP) and talks utter nonsense
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
...and as a Welshman, I find it tiresome that it is wheeled out and our noses rubbed in it every six nations and every world cup since 2003.
Though the cricket was entertaining comparing it to the 1966 World cup seems a little over egged. That was a WORLD cup including almost every country in the world. This was a rather more limited affair that includes perhaps 10% of the worlds sports playing nations.
Indeed Europe America China Russia and Japan weren't even represented. Did they even know a contest was taking place?
FIFA World Cup 2018 Semi-Finalists: France, Belgium, Croatia, England. Combined population of 138 million. All from Europe.
ICC ODI World Cup 2019 Semi-Finalists: England & Wales, New Zealand, Australia, India. Combined population of 1,428 million. From Europe, South Asia and Oceania.
Which is the more global sport?
It's got to do with the international prestige of the competition. I mean how can 'Viceroy' go dancing through the streets of Berlin chanting "Two World Wars and One Limited Overs Cricket World Cup" with a straight face.
It's actually an incredibly ethnocentric viewpoint that cricket doesn't matter simply because most countries in Europe don't play it. For example IPL averages something like 300-400m viewers, half the entire population of Europe. Cricket is massive. Just not massive in this corner of the world.
Second. And I wished I shared OGH optimism. But Trump has just let his racist mask slip and will double down rather than apologise and shortly the Tories and us will be lumbered with an incompetent for PM. Good to see Mrs May enjoying the cricket. I suspect history will be kinder to her than her successor.
Theresa May is comfortably the worst Prime Minister of my lifetime. And yet you may be right with your final assertion.
Worse than Brown? At least she knew what she wanted to do with the job once she got it, even if very little of it got done because of you know what.
Hard to imagine but much much worse than Brown. Totally clueless.
Even were it possible, believing that anything good might come from an agreement precipitately arrived at, and fronted by Boris, would be evidence of being as high as a viceroy.
Not saying that’s not right, but wasn’t a post Brexit deal with South Korea announced a few weeks ago? Or was that just one of those “rollover” agreements?
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
Cricket is an intensely boring sport. They had a day-long match that did not even give a fixed result; AIUI they had to eventually resolve it on the number of boundaries.
A few minutes of drama at the end of eight or nine hours doesn't make it exciting.
Any sport that cannot give a result after so long really isn't a sport.
So the F1 was miles better - if only to see Vettel's career continue to implode ...
I like cricket because it builds slowly and subtly to a denouement.
For similar reasons I much prefer a fruit cake, that might need at least a week to mature and form more complex flavours after being baked, to something like a Victoria sponge.
A five-year old son's lack of patience means that it's Victoria Sponge every time at the moment.
"Dad, is it ready yet?"
Hate to nag, but you’re doing your child a disservice pumping them full of sugar and empty calories. Fill them up with raw carrots, cucumber, peppers, berries, fruit etc. That’s how you build a strong nation of future stars.
Lecture over.
Teaching a child how to bake, to enjoy making their own food, is not "pumping them full of sugar and empty calories".
It's one step forward on the road to enjoying a chicken curry they've cooked you from scratch.
Though the cricket was entertaining comparing it to the 1966 World cup seems a little over egged. That was a WORLD cup including almost every country in the world. This was a rather more limited affair that includes perhaps 10% of the worlds sports playing nations.
Indeed Europe America China Russia and Japan weren't even represented. Did they even know a contest was taking place?
FIFA World Cup 2018 Semi-Finalists: France, Belgium, Croatia, England. Combined population of 138 million. All from Europe.
ICC ODI World Cup 2019 Semi-Finalists: England & Wales, New Zealand, Australia, India. Combined population of 1,428 million. From Europe, South Asia and Oceania.
Which is the more global sport?
It's got to do with the international prestige of the competition. I mean how can 'Viceroy' go dancing through the streets of Berlin chanting "Two World Wars and One Limited Overs Cricket World Cup" with a straight face.
It's actually an incredibly ethnocentric viewpoint that cricket doesn't matter simply because most countries in Europe don't play it. For example IPL averages something like 300-400m viewers, half the entire population of Europe. Cricket is massive. Just not massive in this corner of the world.
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
Cricket is an intensely boring sport. They had a day-long match that did not even give a fixed result; AIUI they had to eventually resolve it on the number of boundaries.
A few minutes of drama at the end of eight or nine hours doesn't make it exciting.
Any sport that cannot give a result after so long really isn't a sport.
So the F1 was miles better - if only to see Vettel's career continue to implode ...
I like cricket because it builds slowly and subtly to a denouement.
For similar reasons I much prefer a fruit cake, that might need at least a week to mature and form more complex flavours after being baked, to something like a Victoria sponge.
A five-year old son's lack of patience means that it's Victoria Sponge every time at the moment.
"Dad, is it ready yet?"
Hate to nag, but you’re doing your child a disservice pumping them full of sugar and empty calories. Fill them up with raw carrots, cucumber, peppers, berries, fruit etc. That’s how you build a strong nation of future stars.
Lecture over.
I think that's a little unfair: we probably make a cake once a month during term-time, and a bit more regularly during holidays. we bake bread at least weekly.
He's currently sitting downstairs, with his uniform on, and some raspberries in the bowl (a rather dangerous combination that sometimes requires s jumper change). Sweets are treats or rewards, not a right, and I try to get him doing lots of exercise.
A day at the cricket is in my experience the best that sport of any kind has to offer. The banter and good humour in the crowd is vastly superior to the snarling faux hate of football, only rugby comes close and it is too often a boring spectacle. Enjoying the sun, the drink, the food and the company with some brilliant athleticism and sport right in front of you, it really is the best.
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
For someone who professes no interest in cricket, you seem terribly concerned, malcolm. Though sadly ignorant of the rules.
Only thing I know about it is what I read on here, but with Irishman in the team , Welsh totally omitted from team name and those dodgy rules that allowed them to steal it from New Zealand , I can see it is just like unionists in UK. With rules like that and days sitting yawning or asleep it is no wonder it is a minority sport or non existant in most countries around the world apart from a few ex colonies..
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
Cricket is an intensely boring sport. They had a day-long match that did not even give a fixed result; AIUI they had to eventually resolve it on the number of boundaries.
A few minutes of drama at the end of eight or nine hours doesn't make it exciting.
Any sport that cannot give a result after so long really isn't a sport.
So the F1 was miles better - if only to see Vettel's career continue to implode ...
I like cricket because it builds slowly and subtly to a denouement.
For similar reasons I much prefer a fruit cake, that might need at least a week to mature and form more complex flavours after being baked, to something like a Victoria sponge.
A five-year old son's lack of patience means that it's Victoria Sponge every time at the moment.
"Dad, is it ready yet?"
Hate to nag, but you’re doing your child a disservice pumping them full of sugar and empty calories. Fill them up with raw carrots, cucumber, peppers, berries, fruit etc. That’s how you build a strong nation of future stars.
Lecture over.
I think that's a little unfair: we probably make a cake once a month during term-time, and a bit more regularly during holidays. we bake bread at least weekly.
He's currently sitting downstairs, with his uniform on, and some raspberries in the bowl (a rather dangerous combination that sometimes requires s jumper change). Sweets are treats or rewards, not a right, and I try to get him doing lots of exercise.
My motto is everything in moderation.
Including cake.
Great.
But how does it feel being a moderate in a country of extremists?
Congratulations to the England cricket team and while I don't think there is a great link between sport and politics the Blair government in 2005 after the 2003 rugby world cup win was re elected, albeit the 1966 World Cup soccer win cane before that year's general election in 1970 the Wilson Government was voted out after England went out
Though the cricket was entertaining comparing it to the 1966 World cup seems a little over egged. That was a WORLD cup including almost every country in the world. This was a rather more limited affair that includes perhaps 10% of the worlds sports playing nations.
Indeed Europe America China Russia and Japan weren't even represented. Did they even know a contest was taking place?
FIFA World Cup 2018 Semi-Finalists: France, Belgium, Croatia, England. Combined population of 138 million. All from Europe.
ICC ODI World Cup 2019 Semi-Finalists: England & Wales, New Zealand, Australia, India. Combined population of 1,428 million. From Europe, South Asia and Oceania.
Which is the more global sport?
It's got to do with the international prestige of the competition. I mean how can 'Viceroy' go dancing through the streets of Berlin chanting "Two World Wars and One Limited Overs Cricket World Cup" with a straight face.
It's actually an incredibly ethnocentric viewpoint that cricket doesn't matter simply because most countries in Europe don't play it. For example IPL averages something like 300-400m viewers, half the entire population of Europe. Cricket is massive. Just not massive in this corner of the world.
On topic yes cricket is deathly boring but this was a World Cup. With England involved. And that made it extremely not boring. I listened to the last two hours in the car and it was amazing entertainment.
Was strong drink involved. Rounders is for children and will never be exciting once you are beyond 10.
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
England being world champions in a sport that everyone has heard of is what has cut-through!
A day at the cricket is in my experience the best that sport of any kind has to offer. The banter and good humour in the crowd is vastly superior to the snarling faux hate of football, only rugby comes close and it is too often a boring spectacle. Enjoying the sun, the drink, the food and the company with some brilliant athleticism and sport right in front of you, it really is the best.
Translation: it’s only bearable if you’re inebriated.
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
...and as a Welshman, I find it tiresome that it is wheeled out and our noses rubbed in it every six nations and every world cup since 2003.
They have been doing it for over 50 years on a dodgy football one , so you can expect a lot more of it.
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
For someone who professes no interest in cricket, you seem terribly concerned, malcolm. Though sadly ignorant of the rules.
Only thing I know about it is what I read on here, but with Irishman in the team , Welsh totally omitted from team name and those dodgy rules that allowed them to steal it from New Zealand , I can see it is just like unionists in UK. With rules like that and days sitting yawning or asleep it is no wonder it is a minority sport or non existant in most countries around the world apart from a few ex colonies..
I don’t like football, malcolm. But I tend to refrain from displaying my prejudice against, and ignorance of the sport.
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
Cricket is an intensely boring sport. They had a day-long match that did not even give a fixed result; AIUI they had to eventually resolve it on the number of boundaries.
A few minutes of drama at the end of eight or nine hours doesn't make it exciting.
Any sport that cannot give a result after so long really isn't a sport.
So the F1 was miles better - if only to see Vettel's career continue to implode ...
I like cricket because it builds slowly and subtly to a denouement.
For similar reasons I much prefer a fruit cake, that might need at least a week to mature and form more complex flavours after being baked, to something like a Victoria sponge.
A five-year old son's lack of patience means that it's Victoria Sponge every time at the moment.
"Dad, is it ready yet?"
Hate to nag, but you’re doing your child a disservice pumping them full of sugar and empty calories. Fill them up with raw carrots, cucumber, peppers, berries, fruit etc. That’s how you build a strong nation of future stars.
Lecture over.
I think that's a little unfair: we probably make a cake once a month during term-time, and a bit more regularly during holidays. we bake bread at least weekly.
He's currently sitting downstairs, with his uniform on, and some raspberries in the bowl (a rather dangerous combination that sometimes requires s jumper change). Sweets are treats or rewards, not a right, and I try to get him doing lots of exercise.
My motto is everything in moderation.
Including cake.
Great.
But how does it feel being a moderate in a country of extremists?
Bit unfair to call Derbyshire 'a country of extremists.' Chris Williamson is only one person.
Though the cricket was entertaining comparing it to the 1966 World cup seems a little over egged. That was a WORLD cup including almost every country in the world. This was a rather more limited affair that includes perhaps 10% of the worlds sports playing nations.
Indeed Europe America China Russia and Japan weren't even represented. Did they even know a contest was taking place?
FIFA World Cup 2018 Semi-Finalists: France, Belgium, Croatia, England. Combined population of 138 million. All from Europe.
ICC ODI World Cup 2019 Semi-Finalists: England & Wales, New Zealand, Australia, India. Combined population of 1,428 million. From Europe, South Asia and Oceania.
Which is the more global sport?
It's got to do with the international prestige of the competition. I mean how can 'Viceroy' go dancing through the streets of Berlin chanting "Two World Wars and One Limited Overs Cricket World Cup" with a straight face.
It's actually an incredibly ethnocentric viewpoint that cricket doesn't matter simply because most countries in Europe don't play it. For example IPL averages something like 300-400m viewers, half the entire population of Europe. Cricket is massive. Just not massive in this corner of the world.
Next you will be telling us US football is wonderful
Congratulations to the England football team and while I don't think there is a great link between sport and politics the Wilson Government in 1966 after the England soccer world cup win and the Blair government in 2005 after the 2003 rugby world cup win were both re elected
Cricket team, I believe.
The 1966 General Election was in March, so before the football World Cup, and Wilson lost the following one in 1970.
Though the cricket was entertaining comparing it to the 1966 World cup seems a little over egged. That was a WORLD cup including almost every country in the world. This was a rather more limited affair that includes perhaps 10% of the worlds sports playing nations.
Indeed Europe America China Russia and Japan weren't even represented. Did they even know a contest was taking place?
FIFA World Cup 2018 Semi-Finalists: France, Belgium, Croatia, England. Combined population of 138 million. All from Europe.
ICC ODI World Cup 2019 Semi-Finalists: England & Wales, New Zealand, Australia, India. Combined population of 1,428 million. From Europe, South Asia and Oceania.
Which is the more global sport?
It's got to do with the international prestige of the competition. I mean how can 'Viceroy' go dancing through the streets of Berlin chanting "Two World Wars and One Limited Overs Cricket World Cup" with a straight face.
It's actually an incredibly ethnocentric viewpoint that cricket doesn't matter simply because most countries in Europe don't play it. For example IPL averages something like 300-400m viewers, half the entire population of Europe. Cricket is massive. Just not massive in this corner of the world.
Though the cricket was entertaining comparing it to the 1966 World cup seems a little over egged. That was a WORLD cup including almost every country in the world. This was a rather more limited affair that includes perhaps 10% of the worlds sports playing nations.
Indeed Europe America China Russia and Japan weren't even represented. Did they even know a contest was taking place?
FIFA World Cup 2018 Semi-Finalists: France, Belgium, Croatia, England. Combined population of 138 million. All from Europe.
ICC ODI World Cup 2019 Semi-Finalists: England & Wales, New Zealand, Australia, India. Combined population of 1,428 million. From Europe, South Asia and Oceania.
Wasn’t there some discussion a few years ago about people here being classified as second generation immigrants even if they were born here if their parents weren’t?
Always seemed daft to me - if you’re born in a country you’re mot an immigrant.
Trump is vile but we know that and despite it all our government wants to cosy up to him. I don’t see how any sporting victory can change any of that.
Certainly some figures have shown Scottish born voters voted by a small majority for independence in 2014, which Nats occasionally mention
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
England being world champions in a sport that everyone has heard of is what has cut-through!
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
England being world champions in a sport that everyone has heard of is what has cut-through!
Congratulations to the England football team and while I don't think there is a great link between sport and politics the Wilson Government in 1966 after the England soccer world cup win and the Blair government in 2005 after the 2003 rugby world cup win were both re elected
Cricket team, I believe.
The 1966 General Election was in March, so before the football World Cup, and Wilson lost the following one in 1970.
A day at the cricket is in my experience the best that sport of any kind has to offer. The banter and good humour in the crowd is vastly superior to the snarling faux hate of football, only rugby comes close and it is too often a boring spectacle. Enjoying the sun, the drink, the food and the company with some brilliant athleticism and sport right in front of you, it really is the best.
That's a picnic. With some guys standing around away across the field.
Congratulations to the England cricket team and while I don't think there is a great link between sport and politics the Blair government in 2005 after the 2003 rugby world cup win was re elected, albeit the 1966 World Cup soccer win cane before that year's general election in 1970 the Wilson Government was voted out after England went out
No it didn’t, the 1966 general election was in March and the World Cup final was in July.
Though the cricket was entertaining comparing it to the 1966 World cup seems a little over egged. That was a WORLD cup including almost every country in the world. This was a rather more limited affair that includes perhaps 10% of the worlds sports playing nations.
Indeed Europe America China Russia and Japan weren't even represented. Did they even know a contest was taking place?
FIFA World Cup 2018 Semi-Finalists: France, Belgium, Croatia, England. Combined population of 138 million. All from Europe.
ICC ODI World Cup 2019 Semi-Finalists: England & Wales, New Zealand, Australia, India. Combined population of 1,428 million. From Europe, South Asia and Oceania.
Which is the more global sport?
That is mainly because of India though
If India was divided into dozens of smaller countries, all fielding separate international cricket teams, would it make cricket any more an international sport?
That would seem to be the logical conclusion of the argument comparing football to cricket based on numbers of countries.
Congratulations to the England football team and while I don't think there is a great link between sport and politics the Wilson Government in 1966 after the England soccer world cup win and the Blair government in 2005 after the 2003 rugby world cup win were both re elected
Cricket team, I believe.
The 1966 General Election was in March, so before the football World Cup, and Wilson lost the following one in 1970.
Wasn’t there some discussion a few years ago about people here being classified as second generation immigrants even if they were born here if their parents weren’t?
Are we sure it's even proper cricket? The photo of the lads in sky blue look like they are trialling a new outfit for inmates of some privatised prison.
I don't know anybody who gives the slightest fuck about it. I don't think it's going to be moment of transformative nationalism.
That's true but I thought 'Irish backstops' were cricket related until I came on here.
Congratulations to the England cricket team and while I don't think there is a great link between sport and politics the Blair government in 2005 after the 2003 rugby world cup win was re elected, albeit the 1966 World Cup soccer win cane before that year's general election in 1970 the Wilson Government was voted out after England went out
No it didn’t, the 1966 general election was in March and the World Cup final was in July.
Congratulations to the England cricket team and while I don't think there is a great link between sport and politics the Blair government in 2005 after the 2003 rugby world cup win was re elected, albeit the 1966 World Cup soccer win cane before that year's general election in 1970 the Wilson Government was voted out after England went out
No it didn’t, the 1966 general election was in March and the World Cup final was in July.
Yes, OK well if you read the context of the sentence including the world 'albeit' that is what I meant the general election came before the world cup, I am on the tube and was typing fast
Congratulations to the England football team and while I don't think there is a great link between sport and politics the Wilson Government in 1966 after the England soccer world cup win and the Blair government in 2005 after the 2003 rugby world cup win were both re elected
Cricket team, I believe.
The 1966 General Election was in March, so before the football World Cup, and Wilson lost the following one in 1970.
Other than that, good post!
Peter Bonetti lost it for Labour in 1970.
Only decent thing Chelsea have ever done for the country.
Are we sure it's even proper cricket? The photo of the lads in sky blue look like they are trialling a new outfit for inmates of some privatised prison.
I don't know anybody who gives the slightest fuck about it. I don't think it's going to be moment of transformative nationalism.
That's true but I thought 'Irish backstops' were cricket related until I came on here.
Nah, it's the captain who's Irish. Buttler's from Taunton.
Though the cricket was entertaining comparing it to the 1966 World cup seems a little over egged. That was a WORLD cup including almost every country in the world. This was a rather more limited affair that includes perhaps 10% of the worlds sports playing nations.
Indeed Europe America China Russia and Japan weren't even represented. Did they even know a contest was taking place?
FIFA World Cup 2018 Semi-Finalists: France, Belgium, Croatia, England. Combined population of 138 million. All from Europe.
ICC ODI World Cup 2019 Semi-Finalists: England & Wales, New Zealand, Australia, India. Combined population of 1,428 million. From Europe, South Asia and Oceania.
Which is the more global sport?
That is mainly because of India though
If India was divided into dozens of smaller countries, all fielding separate international cricket teams, would it make cricket any more an international sport?
That would seem to be the logical conclusion of the argument comparing football to cricket based on numbers of countries.
It is fair to say more people watch cricket in India than the rest of the world combined I expect
The England ODI team originally wore blue thanks to the Aussies and World Series cricket picking it as white was a no no and red originally clashed with the maroon of the Windies.
In recent years we’ve also worn red, green, and orange.
We went back to the light blue because any England cricket fan will tell you it was the same colour as our ‘92 kit.
But kit colours don’t have to match flags, the Italian football team wear blue.
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
For someone who professes no interest in cricket, you seem terribly concerned, malcolm. Though sadly ignorant of the rules.
Only thing I know about it is what I read on here, but with Irishman in the team , Welsh totally omitted from team name and those dodgy rules that allowed them to steal it from New Zealand , I can see it is just like unionists in UK. With rules like that and days sitting yawning or asleep it is no wonder it is a minority sport or non existant in most countries around the world apart from a few ex colonies..
I don’t like football, malcolm. But I tend to refrain from displaying my prejudice against, and ignorance of the sport.
Nigel, no fun in that is there, I am just having a bit of a laugh. I can understand you on football which can be very very boring at times as well.
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
England being world champions in a sport that everyone has heard of is what has cut-through!
What a keeper
Agreed. Jos Buttler is great.
I seemed to remember a regular PB poster on here called him the Emile Heskey of cricket the other day....can't quite remember who it was though....
There are some predictable comments on here this morning but I would add the following
Cricket is a well loved sport by many, indeed I played it along with tennis, golf and football, but it does not appeal to the majority.
My response to England winning the cricket World Cup is one of pride tinged with great sympathy for the Kiwis who were fantastic, both in the way they played and the way they responded to their devastating defeat
It is true the English team have connections with Ireland, NZ and the Carribean, but it is nonsense to try to make political capital for one argument or another.
The final was the most amazing game of cricket, and not just the end, but the whole game and let us just enjoy the moment and sideline unnecesary bitterness
I did not realise England are the only Country to have won the World cup in football, rugby and cricket
Though the cricket was entertaining comparing it to the 1966 World cup seems a little over egged. That was a WORLD cup including almost every country in the world. This was a rather more limited affair that includes perhaps 10% of the worlds sports playing nations.
Indeed Europe America China Russia and Japan weren't even represented. Did they even know a contest was taking place?
FIFA World Cup 2018 Semi-Finalists: France, Belgium, Croatia, England. Combined population of 138 million. All from Europe.
ICC ODI World Cup 2019 Semi-Finalists: England & Wales, New Zealand, Australia, India. Combined population of 1,428 million. From Europe, South Asia and Oceania.
Which is the more global sport?
That is mainly because of India though
If India was divided into dozens of smaller countries, all fielding separate international cricket teams, would it make cricket any more an international sport?
That would seem to be the logical conclusion of the argument comparing football to cricket based on numbers of countries.
It is fair to say more people watch cricket in India than the rest of the world combined I expect
We could try a different metric. The cricket world cup, despite being younger than the football world cup, has been won by teams from four continents - America, Asia, Europe and Oceania. The football world cup has only been won by teams from two continents - South America and Europe.
The England ODI team originally wore blue thanks to the Aussies and World Series cricket picking it as white was a no no and red originally clashed with the maroon of the Windies.
In recent years we’ve also worn red, green, and orange.
We went back to the light blue because any England cricket fan will tell you it was the same colour as our ‘92 kit.
But kit colours don’t have to match flags, the Italian football team wear blue.
And the Kiwis, or course, black. And the England soccer kit usually has some blue in it.
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
England being world champions in a sport that everyone has heard of is what has cut-through!
What a keeper
Agreed. Jos Buttler is great.
I seemed to remember a regular PB poster on here called him the Emile Heskey of cricket the other day....can't quite remember who it was though....
That wasn’t me. I just pointed out what some idiot tweeted to TMS.
One of the reasons I have kept my Lancashire membership is to see Jos Buttler in t20 cricket l.
Viceroy ranting from Spain about the threat from foreigners...
As a Brit abroad myself I get the irony but his lunacy is a product of who he is not where he lives.
Has it occured to you 'he' might be your next door neighbour? The woman sitting beside the pool with the big breasts pretending to do the crossword......
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
England being world champions in a sport that everyone has heard of is what has cut-through!
What a keeper
Agreed. Jos Buttler is great.
I seemed to remember a regular PB poster on here called him the Emile Heskey of cricket the other day....can't quite remember who it was though....
That wasn’t me. I just pointed out what some idiot tweeted to TMS.
One of the reasons I have kept my Lancashire membership is to see Jos Buttler in t20 cricket l.
I presume you have to be a mute when you go and watch, as a proud Yorkshireman?
There are some predictable comments on here this morning but I would add the following
Cricket is a well loved sport by many, indeed I played it along with tennis, golf and football, but it does not appeal to the majority.
My response to England winning the cricket World Cup is one of pride tinged with great sympathy for the Kiwis who were fantastic, both in the way they played and the way they responded to their devastating defeat
It is true the English team have connections with Ireland, NZ and the Carribean, but it is nonsense to try to make political capital for one argument or another.
The final was the most amazing game of cricket, and not just the end, but the whole game and let us just enjoy the moment and sideline unnecesary bitterness
I did not realise England are the only Country to have won the World cup in football, rugby and cricket
G very remiss of you to forget that it is England and Wales, seems to be a very very common error.
Viceroy ranting from Spain about the threat from foreigners...
As a Brit abroad myself I get the irony but his lunacy is a product of who he is not where he lives.
Has it occured to you 'he' might be your next door neighbour? The woman sitting beside the pool with the big breasts pretending to do the crossword......
The England ODI team originally wore blue thanks to the Aussies and World Series cricket picking it as white was a no no and red originally clashed with the maroon of the Windies.
In recent years we’ve also worn red, green, and orange.
We went back to the light blue because any England cricket fan will tell you it was the same colour as our ‘92 kit.
But kit colours don’t have to match flags, the Italian football team wear blue.
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
England being world champions in a sport that everyone has heard of is what has cut-through!
What a keeper
Agreed. Jos Buttler is great.
I seemed to remember a regular PB poster on here called him the Emile Heskey of cricket the other day....can't quite remember who it was though....
That wasn’t me. I just pointed out what some idiot tweeted to TMS.
One of the reasons I have kept my Lancashire membership is to see Jos Buttler in t20 cricket l.
I presume you have to be a mute when you go and watch, as a proud Yorkshireman?
All the time, as a Liverpool supporting Yorkshireman working in Manchester I’m always on mute.
The England ODI team originally wore blue thanks to the Aussies and World Series cricket picking it as white was a no no and red originally clashed with the maroon of the Windies.
In recent years we’ve also worn red, green, and orange.
We went back to the light blue because any England cricket fan will tell you it was the same colour as our ‘92 kit.
But kit colours don’t have to match flags, the Italian football team wear blue.
It is a crap outfit though
Scots aren’t able to criticise anyone else’s kits after you lot wore this.
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
For someone who professes no interest in cricket, you seem terribly concerned, malcolm. Though sadly ignorant of the rules.
Only thing I know about it is what I read on here, but with Irishman in the team , Welsh totally omitted from team name and those dodgy rules that allowed them to steal it from New Zealand , I can see it is just like unionists in UK. With rules like that and days sitting yawning or asleep it is no wonder it is a minority sport or non existant in most countries around the world apart from a few ex colonies..
I don’t like football, malcolm. But I tend to refrain from displaying my prejudice against, and ignorance of the sport.
Nigel, no fun in that is there, I am just having a bit of a laugh. I can understand you on football which can be very very boring at times as well.
Worth remembering that there are pockets of genuine enthusiasm for cricket in Scotland. Freuchie, a Fife village team, won the village championship, beating a Surrey team, in 1985!
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
For someone who professes no interest in cricket, you seem terribly concerned, malcolm. Though sadly ignorant of the rules.
Only thing I know about it is what I read on here, but with Irishman in the team , Welsh totally omitted from team name and those dodgy rules that allowed them to steal it from New Zealand , I can see it is just like unionists in UK. With rules like that and days sitting yawning or asleep it is no wonder it is a minority sport or non existant in most countries around the world apart from a few ex colonies..
I don’t like football, malcolm. But I tend to refrain from displaying my prejudice against, and ignorance of the sport.
Nigel, no fun in that is there, I am just having a bit of a laugh. I can understand you on football which can be very very boring at times as well.
Hey! That sounded like an apology! If you're going to be a grouch you have to stay in costume all day or your fans will think you've gone soft
Well done to England. I thought they were the best batting team in the tournament and deserved the win. After the three Group losses they needed to beat India, NZ, Aus and NZ and they managed that in style so deserved it!
I've been a cricket fan for years and I prefer Tests but yesterday's final has to go down as one of the best, if not THE best, sport final ever. It was absolutely gripping, and the fact it was played in the sunshine at the greatest cricket venue on Earth, in the greatest sports-event hosting country on Earth, just made it even better.
I'm Welsh so it's hard to praise an English sports team but this is one hell of a one-day team and deserved World champs.
None of it has anything to do with Brexit but I will say this... for all the naysayers and doom-mongers the UK is the BEST country (by far) at hosting the big sports events. The RWC2015 was amazing, the 2012 Olympics was brilliant, we have the best football leagues in the world, Wimbledon and the Open Championships are always first class... we are just the best country in which to watch sports: safe, welcoming, accessible in terms of travel and language, and supreme at hosting the big occasion.
The England ODI team originally wore blue thanks to the Aussies and World Series cricket picking it as white was a no no and red originally clashed with the maroon of the Windies.
In recent years we’ve also worn red, green, and orange.
We went back to the light blue because any England cricket fan will tell you it was the same colour as our ‘92 kit.
But kit colours don’t have to match flags, the Italian football team wear blue.
It is a crap outfit though
Scots aren’t able to criticise anyone else’s kits after you lot wore this.
They only needed brown shorts to look like a Neapolitan ice cream.
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
England being world champions in a sport that everyone has heard of is what has cut-through!
The England ODI team originally wore blue thanks to the Aussies and World Series cricket picking it as white was a no no and red originally clashed with the maroon of the Windies.
In recent years we’ve also worn red, green, and orange.
We went back to the light blue because any England cricket fan will tell you it was the same colour as our ‘92 kit.
But kit colours don’t have to match flags, the Italian football team wear blue.
It is a crap outfit though
Scots aren’t able to criticise anyone else’s kits after you lot wore this.
They only needed brown shorts to look like a Neapolitan ice cream.
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
For someone who professes no interest in cricket, you seem terribly concerned, malcolm. Though sadly ignorant of the rules.
Only thing I know about it is what I read on here, but with Irishman in the team , Welsh totally omitted from team name and those dodgy rules that allowed them to steal it from New Zealand , I can see it is just like unionists in UK. With rules like that and days sitting yawning or asleep it is no wonder it is a minority sport or non existant in most countries around the world apart from a few ex colonies..
I don’t like football, malcolm. But I tend to refrain from displaying my prejudice against, and ignorance of the sport.
Nigel, no fun in that is there, I am just having a bit of a laugh. I can understand you on football which can be very very boring at times as well.
Hey! That sounded like an apology! If you're going to be a grouch you have to stay in costume all day or your fans will think you've gone soft
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
For someone who professes no interest in cricket, you seem terribly concerned, malcolm. Though sadly ignorant of the rules.
Only thing I know about it is what I read on here, but with Irishman in the team , Welsh totally omitted from team name and those dodgy rules that allowed them to steal it from New Zealand , I can see it is just like unionists in UK. With rules like that and days sitting yawning or asleep it is no wonder it is a minority sport or non existant in most countries around the world apart from a few ex colonies..
I don’t like football, malcolm. But I tend to refrain from displaying my prejudice against, and ignorance of the sport.
Nigel, no fun in that is there, I am just having a bit of a laugh. I can understand you on football which can be very very boring at times as well.
Worth remembering that there are pockets of genuine enthusiasm for cricket in Scotland. Freuchie, a Fife village team, won the village championship, beating a Surrey team, in 1985!
Viceroy ranting from Spain about the threat from foreigners...
As a Brit abroad myself I get the irony but his lunacy is a product of who he is not where he lives.
Has it occured to you 'he' might be your next door neighbour? The woman sitting beside the pool with the big breasts pretending to do the crossword......
Viceroy ranting from Spain about the threat from foreigners...
As a Brit abroad myself I get the irony but his lunacy is a product of who he is not where he lives.
Has it occured to you 'he' might be your next door neighbour? The woman sitting beside the pool with the big breasts pretending to do the crossword......
All of my neighbour's are Spanish. Your prejudices and stereotypes continue to amuse.
I'm Welsh so it's hard to praise an English sports team but this is one hell of a one-day team and deserved World champs.
It's the Entland and Wales team though the and Wales tends to get dropped. So there should be no difficulty for you at all.
I know! It's still tough to be seen to be supporting England though. It's the type of thing that gets you hauled around the back of a pub for a kicking!
First country to win world cups in football, rugby and cricket, plus the longest Wimbledon final ever and a fantastic Grand Prix from silverstone watched by nearly 150,000 paying spectators. Well done to all those involved, especially those on the receiving end of the close results (which I probably wouldn’t have said if it had been Australia or India!).
There’s definitely a story to be told about how that last-minute TV deal came about, a good task for a journo today.
Back to life with a bump and a hangover this morning.
Two of the three dodgy as well. New Zealand were robbed yesterday, pathetic they get 4 runs when the ball bounces off their man and then the fixed super over. Only way they ever win , just like 1966. Rugby was only exception.
For someone who professes no interest in cricket, you seem terribly concerned, malcolm. Though sadly ignorant of the rules.
Only thing I know about it is what I read on here, but with Irishman in the team , Welsh totally omitted from team name and those dodgy rules that allowed them to steal it from New Zealand , I can see it is just like unionists in UK. With rules like that and days sitting yawning or asleep it is no wonder it is a minority sport or non existant in most countries around the world apart from a few ex colonies..
I don’t like football, malcolm. But I tend to refrain from displaying my prejudice against, and ignorance of the sport.
Nigel, no fun in that is there, I am just having a bit of a laugh. I can understand you on football which can be very very boring at times as well.
Genuine question - what’s the cricket demographic? Does it really have significant cut-through?
I only knew there was some cricket on because I overheard our tenors talking about it at church yesterday, and only that it was a World Cup when my Twitter timeline suddenly became full of it last night.
But I’m quite prepared to believe I’m entirely atypical. As the product of a moderately good public school I do of course resent cricket almost as much as rugby, both of them unpleasant tortures imposed on us academically-minded chaps much against our will.
Cricket is an intensely boring sport. They had a day-long match that did not even give a fixed result; AIUI they had to eventually resolve it on the number of boundaries.
A few minutes of drama at the end of eight or nine hours doesn't make it exciting.
Any sport that cannot give a result after so long really isn't a sport.
So the F1 was miles better - if only to see Vettel's career continue to implode ...
I like cricket because it builds slowly and subtly to a denouement.
For similar reasons I much prefer a fruit cake, that might need at least a week to mature and form more complex flavours after being baked, to something like a Victoria sponge.
A five-year old son's lack of patience means that it's Victoria Sponge every time at the moment.
"Dad, is it ready yet?"
Hate to nag, but you’re doing your child a disservice pumping them full of sugar and empty calories. Fill them up with raw carrots, cucumber, peppers, berries, fruit etc. That’s how you build a strong nation of future stars.
Lecture over.
I think that's a little unfair: we probably make a cake once a month during term-time, and a bit more regularly during holidays. we bake bread at least weekly.
He's currently sitting downstairs, with his uniform on, and some raspberries in the bowl (a rather dangerous combination that sometimes requires s jumper change). Sweets are treats or rewards, not a right, and I try to get him doing lots of exercise.
My motto is everything in moderation.
Including cake.
Great.
But how does it feel being a moderate in a country of extremists?
I'm not. The vast majority of people I know - whether left or right, leaver or remainer, are not what I'd call 'extreme'. When we talk, we can agree on more than we disagree. And I think the same'd be true of PBers as well if/when we met in person - t'Internet can lead to horrible conversations.
Disagreeing with someone's point doesn't automatically make them 'extreme' or you 'moderate'.
Viceroy ranting from Spain about the threat from foreigners...
As a Brit abroad myself I get the irony but his lunacy is a product of who he is not where he lives.
Has it occured to you 'he' might be your next door neighbour? The woman sitting beside the pool with the big breasts pretending to do the crossword......
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It will be interesting to see how they compare to the recent football semi-final.
It's one step forward on the road to enjoying a chicken curry they've cooked you from scratch.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_national_cricket_team
He's currently sitting downstairs, with his uniform on, and some raspberries in the bowl (a rather dangerous combination that sometimes requires s jumper change). Sweets are treats or rewards, not a right, and I try to get him doing lots of exercise.
My motto is everything in moderation.
Including cake.
But how does it feel being a moderate in a country of extremists?
That’s not a sport, that’s a business.
The 1966 General Election was in March, so before the football World Cup, and Wilson lost the following one in 1970.
Other than that, good post!
Mr. Jessop, aye, I like the everything in moderation line too.
https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/1277987
A genuine snort coffee out your nose moment.
That would seem to be the logical conclusion of the argument comparing football to cricket based on numbers of countries.
Massively found out at the top level but more suited to Scotland’s low level.
#NowThatIsWhatYouCallNiche
In recent years we’ve also worn red, green, and orange.
We went back to the light blue because any England cricket fan will tell you it was the same colour as our ‘92 kit.
But kit colours don’t have to match flags, the Italian football team wear blue.
IIRC it is printed in Broxbourne nowadays.
Cricket is a well loved sport by many, indeed I played it along with tennis, golf and football, but it does not appeal to the majority.
My response to England winning the cricket World Cup is one of pride tinged with great sympathy for the Kiwis who were fantastic, both in the way they played and the way they responded to their devastating defeat
It is true the English team have connections with Ireland, NZ and the Carribean, but it is nonsense to try to make political capital for one argument or another.
The final was the most amazing game of cricket, and not just the end, but the whole game and let us just enjoy the moment and sideline unnecesary bitterness
I did not realise England are the only Country to have won the World cup in football, rugby and cricket
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48985789
One of the reasons I have kept my Lancashire membership is to see Jos Buttler in t20 cricket l.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/reunited-after-25-years-the-scots-1068745.amp
(just saying, as a Fifer).
I've been a cricket fan for years and I prefer Tests but yesterday's final has to go down as one of the best, if not THE best, sport final ever. It was absolutely gripping, and the fact it was played in the sunshine at the greatest cricket venue on Earth, in the greatest sports-event hosting country on Earth, just made it even better.
I'm Welsh so it's hard to praise an English sports team
None of it has anything to do with Brexit but I will say this... for all the naysayers and doom-mongers the UK is the BEST country (by far) at hosting the big sports events. The RWC2015 was amazing, the 2012 Olympics was brilliant, we have the best football leagues in the world, Wimbledon and the Open Championships are always first class... we are just the best country in which to watch sports: safe, welcoming, accessible in terms of travel and language, and supreme at hosting the big occasion.
https://twitter.com/delagenicolas/status/1149742052839739392
England’s Chairman is a Petrean so this really is a victory for the University of Cambridge.
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1150676963016826880
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ef/f7/4a/eff74a85bcbba10c499ae464c1d91555.jpg
(Apologies if I got that wrong)
Wales is part of the team name!
Disagreeing with someone's point doesn't automatically make them 'extreme' or you 'moderate'.