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  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,573
    justin124 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Battle-shy on Brexit, the Labour leader no longer looks like the hero who had Glastonbury calling his name in 2017

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/02/jeremy-corbyn-liability-brexit-labour-party

    ”It is hard to present Corbyn as a man for the future, and May’s departure will date him even more. He will be a stale continuity figure from the time of stasis, irradiated through years of loitering ineffectually amid the referendum’s toxic fallout. His aura of specialness has dissipated, revealing the man in all his flawed mediocrity. ”

    Rafael Behr makes an error in his article by stating that Corbyn has now been Labour Leader longer than Callaghan. Not so - Callaghan held the position from early April 1976 - mid-November 1980 - ie over 4 years and 7 months.
    If Corbyn had stood clearly for the Brexit he has always supported for respect worthy radical reasons, while at the same time been radical about the left's shameful history of anti-Semitism and support for reactionary authoritarians he could have renewed the left in this country in a truly interesting way. Now even the Guardian think he's a bit sad. What hope is there for a renewed and interesting left now?

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    I wouldn't be surprised if Killing Eve turned a profit. And I doubt the BBC paid much for the Women's World Cup soccer rights.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    So, we went out on penalties?

    No change there then. That’s equality.

    You don’t know anything about football, do you?
    Nope. I do know you’re one of the worst posters on this site though.

    It’s a low bar toss up between you and NigelforRemain.

    _Anazina_ said:

    So, we went out on penalties?

    No change there then. That’s equality.

    You don’t know anything about football, do you?
    Nope. I do know you’re one of the worst posters on this site though.

    It’s a low bar toss up between you and NigelforRemain.
    Brilliant
    If only.
    ⚽️
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    Foxy said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    One of the positives of Women's football is that there are lots of out Lesbians, and nobody seems bothered (well nearly nobody!). How unlike the mens game.

    Nobody except ‘Casino Royale’, whose only comment on the England ladies football team is based on sheer ignorance of the sport, followed by an irrelevant inquiry into the players’ sexuality.

    Funny old game.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    Pulpstar said:
    "Greed is not so good?"
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    Pulpstar said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9235665/womens-football-england-husbands-partners-girlfriends-boyfriends-world-cup/

    70% of England team according to the 10 players the Sun had a look at.

    75% (12/16) of USA team straight according to this :
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7204985/Meet-wives-husbands-girlfriends-boyfriends-Womens-Soccer-team.html

    Interesting. Thanks!
    You now know more about the players’ sexuality than you do about their field positions. It’s a start, I suppose.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    rcs1000 said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    I wouldn't be surprised if Killing Eve turned a profit. And I doubt the BBC paid much for the Women's World Cup soccer rights.
    Not a fan of Killing Eve myself (I found the central character annoying to the point of being unwatchable) but why he sees it as a ‘minority’ programme is beyond me. Isn’t it wildly popular?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Foxy said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    One of the positives of Women's football is that there are lots of out Lesbians, and nobody seems bothered (well nearly nobody!). How unlike the mens game.
    To be fair, if there were lots of out lesbians playing men’s football I think a few people might raise eyebrows
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited July 2019

    How many presidents does the EU have?

    How many does the UK have?

    Lord President of the Council - Mel Stride
    President of the Board of Trade - Liam Fox
    President of the Supreme Court - Lady Hale
    ...
    Presidents are dull

    Lord Great Chamberlin
    Lord High Chancellor
    Lord High Admiral
    First Sea Lord
    Earl Marshall

    And my favourite... The Queen’s Swanmaster
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065
    edited July 2019
    Dadge said:

    Nominations for EU Parliament president:

    Ska Keller (Greens, Germany)
    Sira Abed Rego (GUE, Spain)
    David Maria Sassoli (S&D, Italy)
    Jan Zahradil (ECR, Czech Republic)


    Elections to be held tomorrow

    After 3 ballots, only top 2 will go to 4th ballot

    I'd expect Ska to get this, if Leyen hadn't just got the top job. Having two Germans in key positions sends out the wrong message, perhaps.
    Ms Ge it's "von der Leyen"
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    edited July 2019
    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,038
    So men watching women's football are either:

    a) Thinking about having sex with the players

    or

    b) Thinking about the players having sex with each other

    It's a funny old game.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,491
    _Anazina_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9235665/womens-football-england-husbands-partners-girlfriends-boyfriends-world-cup/

    70% of England team according to the 10 players the Sun had a look at.

    75% (12/16) of USA team straight according to this :
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7204985/Meet-wives-husbands-girlfriends-boyfriends-Womens-Soccer-team.html

    Interesting. Thanks!
    You now know more about the players’ sexuality than you do about their field positions. It’s a start, I suppose.
    I couldn't give a toss about their field positions.

    I'm not interested in the game of football.
  • VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,543
    Charles said:

    How many presidents does the EU have?

    How many does the UK have?

    Lord President of the Council - Mel Stride
    President of the Board of Trade - Liam Fox
    President of the Supreme Court - Lady Hale
    ...
    Presidents are dull

    Lord Great Chamberlin
    Lord High Chancellor
    Lord High Admiral
    First Sea Lord
    Earl Marshall

    And my favourite... The Queen’s Swanmaster
    What about the President of the Oxford Union?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,491
    _Anazina_ said:

    Foxy said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    One of the positives of Women's football is that there are lots of out Lesbians, and nobody seems bothered (well nearly nobody!). How unlike the mens game.

    Nobody except ‘Casino Royale’, whose only comment on the England ladies football team is based on sheer ignorance of the sport, followed by an irrelevant inquiry into the players’ sexuality.

    Funny old game.
    Maybe you should log off, sober up and calm down before coming back to post on here.

    Just a friendly tip.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,414

    So men watching women's football are either:

    a) Thinking about having sex with the players

    or

    b) Thinking about the players having sex with each other

    It's a funny old game.

    Would it be wrong to suggest that quite a few would willingly give a toss?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    How many presidents does the EU have?

    How many does the UK have?

    Lord President of the Council - Mel Stride
    President of the Board of Trade - Liam Fox
    President of the Supreme Court - Lady Hale
    ...
    Presidents are dull

    Lord Great Chamberlin
    Lord High Chancellor
    Lord High Admiral
    First Sea Lord
    Earl Marshall

    And my favourite... The Queen’s Swanmaster
    What about the President of the Oxford Union?
    I’ve known many. These days they are not as impressive as they when my uncle, grandfather and great-grandfather held the position 😂
  • kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456
    _Anazina_ said:

    rcs1000 said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    I wouldn't be surprised if Killing Eve turned a profit. And I doubt the BBC paid much for the Women's World Cup soccer rights.
    Not a fan of Killing Eve myself (I found the central character annoying to the point of being unwatchable) but why he sees it as a ‘minority’ programme is beyond me. Isn’t it wildly popular?
    Ok I accept that killing eve is profitable and quite entertaining , But the BBC has lost its way and panders to minority groups and is no longer a channel for the vast majority of licence payers . An overpaid and overbloated organisation which thinks it has a divine right to exist . It needs root and branch reform and needs to get back to doing what it was good at once upon a time , good dramas , light entertainment , serious investigative journalism, and education and representing the best of Britain on the world stage ,
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    _Anazina_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9235665/womens-football-england-husbands-partners-girlfriends-boyfriends-world-cup/

    70% of England team according to the 10 players the Sun had a look at.

    75% (12/16) of USA team straight according to this :
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7204985/Meet-wives-husbands-girlfriends-boyfriends-Womens-Soccer-team.html

    Interesting. Thanks!
    You now know more about the players’ sexuality than you do about their field positions. It’s a start, I suppose.
    I couldn't give a toss about their field positions.

    I'm not interested in the game of football.
    We’ve already established all that.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Charles said:

    Charles said:

    How many presidents does the EU have?

    How many does the UK have?

    Lord President of the Council - Mel Stride
    President of the Board of Trade - Liam Fox
    President of the Supreme Court - Lady Hale
    ...
    Presidents are dull

    Lord Great Chamberlin
    Lord High Chancellor
    Lord High Admiral
    First Sea Lord
    Earl Marshall

    And my favourite... The Queen’s Swanmaster
    What about the President of the Oxford Union?
    I’ve known many. These days they are not as impressive as they when my uncle, grandfather and great-grandfather held the position 😂
    Were you a Union hack, Charles?

    (I must admit to being a small Union hack at Cambridge...)
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,720

    _Anazina_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9235665/womens-football-england-husbands-partners-girlfriends-boyfriends-world-cup/

    70% of England team according to the 10 players the Sun had a look at.

    75% (12/16) of USA team straight according to this :
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7204985/Meet-wives-husbands-girlfriends-boyfriends-Womens-Soccer-team.html

    Interesting. Thanks!
    You now know more about the players’ sexuality than you do about their field positions. It’s a start, I suppose.
    I couldn't give a toss about their field positions.

    I'm not interested in the game of football.
    The game of football is a threat to the union. You should advocate a UK team.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    edited July 2019
    kjohnw said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    rcs1000 said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    I wouldn't be surprised if Killing Eve turned a profit. And I doubt the BBC paid much for the Women's World Cup soccer rights.
    Not a fan of Killing Eve myself (I found the central character annoying to the point of being unwatchable) but why he sees it as a ‘minority’ programme is beyond me. Isn’t it wildly popular?
    Ok I accept that killing eve is profitable and quite entertaining , But the BBC has lost its way and panders to minority groups and is no longer a channel for the vast majority of licence payers . An overpaid and overbloated organisation which thinks it has a divine right to exist . It needs root and branch reform and needs to get back to doing what it was good at once upon a time , good dramas , light entertainment , serious investigative journalism, and education and representing the best of Britain on the world stage ,
    I know what you mean, take this for example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mymuvd1kmY
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,131

    How many presidents does the EU have?

    How many does the UK have?

    Lord President of the Council - Mel Stride
    President of the Board of Trade - Liam Fox
    President of the Supreme Court - Lady Hale
    ...
    You're using facts in an argument again, aren't you?... :)
  • kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456
    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    kjohnw said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    rcs1000 said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    I wouldn't be surprised if Killing Eve turned a profit. And I doubt the BBC paid much for the Women's World Cup soccer rights.
    Not a fan of Killing Eve myself (I found the central character annoying to the point of being unwatchable) but why he sees it as a ‘minority’ programme is beyond me. Isn’t it wildly popular?
    Ok I accept that killing eve is profitable and quite entertaining , But the BBC has lost its way and panders to minority groups and is no longer a channel for the vast majority of licence payers . An overpaid and overbloated organisation which thinks it has a divine right to exist . It needs root and branch reform and needs to get back to doing what it was good at once upon a time , good dramas , light entertainment , serious investigative journalism, and education and representing the best of Britain on the world stage ,
    The BBC has brought many important moments shared by the nation. I’ve been highly critical of its news coverage which seems to have become dumbed down in recent years.

    However you don’t appreciate what you have till it’s gone , I’d support ad breaks to subsidize its license fee but it must never go to subscriber only as that will spell the end of it .

  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    kjohnw said:

    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
    As remarkable as it might seem, the BBC doesn’t control the schedule of the Women’s World Cup. Fifa does that. Perhaps they should screen it as a recording at 2pm the following afternoon?
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    nico67 said:

    kjohnw said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    rcs1000 said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    I wouldn't be surprised if Killing Eve turned a profit. And I doubt the BBC paid much for the Women's World Cup soccer rights.
    Not a fan of Killing Eve myself (I found the central character annoying to the point of being unwatchable) but why he sees it as a ‘minority’ programme is beyond me. Isn’t it wildly popular?
    Ok I accept that killing eve is profitable and quite entertaining , But the BBC has lost its way and panders to minority groups and is no longer a channel for the vast majority of licence payers . An overpaid and overbloated organisation which thinks it has a divine right to exist . It needs root and branch reform and needs to get back to doing what it was good at once upon a time , good dramas , light entertainment , serious investigative journalism, and education and representing the best of Britain on the world stage ,
    The BBC has brought many important moments shared by the nation. I’ve been highly critical of its news coverage which seems to have become dumbed down in recent years.

    However you don’t appreciate what you have till it’s gone , I’d support ad breaks to subsidize its license fee but it must never go to subscriber only as that will spell the end of it .

    Agreed - BBC News is shite but there are many good things about the channel. I would accept ads, too.
  • StreeterStreeter Posts: 684
    kjohnw said:

    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
    It’s more popular than cricket.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/10/womens-world-cup-match-breaks-tv-audience-record
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 2,052
    eristdoof said:

    Dadge said:

    Nominations for EU Parliament president:

    Ska Keller (Greens, Germany)
    Sira Abed Rego (GUE, Spain)
    David Maria Sassoli (S&D, Italy)
    Jan Zahradil (ECR, Czech Republic)


    Elections to be held tomorrow

    After 3 ballots, only top 2 will go to 4th ballot

    I'd expect Ska to get this, if Leyen hadn't just got the top job. Having two Germans in key positions sends out the wrong message, perhaps.
    Ms Ge it's "von der Leyen"
    Ihr Name ist zu lang; das Leben ist zu kurz.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,733
    kjohnw said:

    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
    Well, what were tonights viewing figures?

    6.1 million watched England play Scotland. I am sure that tonights audience would be bigger.

    Considering Britain's obesity rate, and low exercise rate amongst teenage girls, a bit of positivity about female sport is very much a public service.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    The main problem now with ads on the BBC, besides advertising being the root of all evil, is that you risk causing mortal damage to ITV and/or Channel 4.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    _Anazina_ said:

    nico67 said:

    kjohnw said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    rcs1000 said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    I wouldn't be surprised if Killing Eve turned a profit. And I doubt the BBC paid much for the Women's World Cup soccer rights.
    Not a fan of Killing Eve myself (I found the central character annoying to the point of being unwatchable) but why he sees it as a ‘minority’ programme is beyond me. Isn’t it wildly popular?
    Ok I accept that killing eve is profitable and quite entertaining , But the BBC has lost its way and panders to minority groups and is no longer a channel for the vast majority of licence payers . An overpaid and overbloated organisation which thinks it has a divine right to exist . It needs root and branch reform and needs to get back to doing what it was good at once upon a time , good dramas , light entertainment , serious investigative journalism, and education and representing the best of Britain on the world stage ,
    The BBC has brought many important moments shared by the nation. I’ve been highly critical of its news coverage which seems to have become dumbed down in recent years.

    However you don’t appreciate what you have till it’s gone , I’d support ad breaks to subsidize its license fee but it must never go to subscriber only as that will spell the end of it .

    Agreed - BBC News is shite but there are many good things about the channel. I would accept ads, too.
    Yes ads could be a way of reducing the license fee and reduce some of the vitriol aimed at it by the right wing press.

    People need to see the state of public broadcasters in other countries and then they’d really appreciate it.

    And the BBC brought us the wonderful Saga and the Bridge amongst many brilliant foreign tv series .

    It’s brought us excellent coverage of Summer and Winter Olympics and of course Wimbledon which I absolutely love .

    It doesn’t always get it right but it’s part and parcel of life in Britain .
  • kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456

    The main problem now with ads on the BBC, besides advertising being the root of all evil, is that you risk causing mortal damage to ITV and/or Channel 4.

    No other country has a television licence fee . If we do want a public service broadcaster pay for it out of general taxation
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,414
    kjohnw said:

    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
    Each to their own. I have no interest whatsoever in the sport of tennis. However, the wall-to-wall fortnight of tyranny which is Wimbledon is now upon us. On the BBC. With women, (a significant proportion of whom are lesbians).
    Strangely, the huge expense of that is rarely criticised, despite it being scantily watched in comparison to football, until the finals.
    Presumably, that is "traditional "? Or, is it just the right sort who watch it?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    dixiedean said:

    kjohnw said:

    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
    Each to their own. I have no interest whatsoever in the sport of tennis. However, the wall-to-wall fortnight of tyranny which is Wimbledon is now upon us. On the BBC. With women, (a significant proportion of whom are lesbians).
    Strangely, the huge expense of that is rarely criticised, despite it being scantily watched in comparison to football, until the finals.
    Presumably, that is "traditional "? Or, is it just the right sort who watch it?
    You’re tyranny is others pleasure, each to their own . I despise soap operas which are on throughout the year .
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,733
    kjohnw said:

    The main problem now with ads on the BBC, besides advertising being the root of all evil, is that you risk causing mortal damage to ITV and/or Channel 4.

    No other country has a television licence fee . If we do want a public service broadcaster pay for it out of general taxation
    Actually quite a few countries have a TV licence fee.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26546570
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653
    Interesting to see fitness play such a big part in the game this evening. The Americans were far stronger physically. That’s one area where the men’s game is very different. In international football you’ll generally find sides are physically matched these days once you get to a tournament. That will come in the women’s game, too, but right now it’s a huge advantage for the US.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679
    edited July 2019
    kjohnw said:

    The main problem now with ads on the BBC, besides advertising being the root of all evil, is that you risk causing mortal damage to ITV and/or Channel 4.

    No other country has a television licence fee . If we do want a public service broadcaster pay for it out of general taxation
    You really are full of poop.

    Lots of other countries have a tv licence fee.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence

    The Museum of Broadcast Communications in Chicago notes that two-thirds of the countries in Europe and half of the countries in Asia and Africa use television licences to fund public television. TV licensing is rare in the Americas, largely being confined to French overseas departments and British Overseas Territories.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited July 2019

    Interesting to see fitness play such a big part in the game this evening. The Americans were far stronger physically. That’s one area where the men’s game is very different. In international football you’ll generally find sides are physically matched these days once you get to a tournament. That will come in the women’s game, too, but right now it’s a huge advantage for the US.

    The USA women's team always do the same thing at the start of each match: they try to out-run the opposition in the first 15 minutes and force them to make silly mistakes as they try to play at a pace they're not used to playing at. It happened again tonight, although you'd think England would have been ready for it.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,414
    nico67 said:

    dixiedean said:

    kjohnw said:

    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
    Each to their own. I have no interest whatsoever in the sport of tennis. However, the wall-to-wall fortnight of tyranny which is Wimbledon is now upon us. On the BBC. With women, (a significant proportion of whom are lesbians).
    Strangely, the huge expense of that is rarely criticised, despite it being scantily watched in comparison to football, until the finals.
    Presumably, that is "traditional "? Or, is it just the right sort who watch it?
    You’re tyranny is others pleasure, each to their own . I despise soap operas which are on throughout the year .
    I quite agree. There is not enough high quality free-to-air sport on in this country. Inevitably, some of us aren't interested in some of it, but there you go. You can't please everyone all the time...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    dixiedean said:

    kjohnw said:

    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
    Each to their own. I have no interest whatsoever in the sport of tennis. However, the wall-to-wall fortnight of tyranny which is Wimbledon is now upon us. On the BBC. With women, (a significant proportion of whom are lesbians).
    Strangely, the huge expense of that is rarely criticised, despite it being scantily watched in comparison to football, until the finals.
    Presumably, that is "traditional "? Or, is it just the right sort who watch it?
    It doesn't bother me these days because the BBC has so few programmes worth watching. So they might as well show tennis as far as I'm concerned.
  • kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456
    Foxy said:

    kjohnw said:

    The main problem now with ads on the BBC, besides advertising being the root of all evil, is that you risk causing mortal damage to ITV and/or Channel 4.

    No other country has a television licence fee . If we do want a public service broadcaster pay for it out of general taxation
    Actually quite a few countries have a TV licence fee.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26546570
    Oh well , every days a school day ! That’s what I like about PB there is always someone who knows more than you😁but I still want to scrap the licence fee , when you see what they pay Lineker and Hugh Edwards. It’s great for those on the gravy train.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    The BBC coverage tonight was fine - without the need for Gary Front Bottom Lineker - his wages could pay for a lot of pensioner tv licences.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,490
    Foxy said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    One of the positives of Women's football is that there are lots of out Lesbians, and nobody seems bothered (well nearly nobody!). How unlike the mens game.
    Yes, I should imagine there are very few lesbians in the men's game.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    Streeter said:

    kjohnw said:

    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
    It’s more popular than cricket.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/10/womens-world-cup-match-breaks-tv-audience-record
    In fairness, that’s probably a consequence of the cricket being on a subscription channel (Sky Sports) more than an outright popularity test. However, the viewing figures for the women’s football have been pretty impressive, all that said.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,490
    Charles said:

    Foxy said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    One of the positives of Women's football is that there are lots of out Lesbians, and nobody seems bothered (well nearly nobody!). How unlike the mens game.
    To be fair, if there were lots of out lesbians playing men’s football I think a few people might raise eyebrows
    Dammit, I should read on.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,624
    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    Question. If the Americans can coach American women to play football this well, why can't they do the same for the men? Seems odd that the women's team is this strong when the men's team is that weak

    Two factors:

    1. There is stiff competition for male athletes - NFL, Basketball, Baseball, Ice Hockey - that aren't there/nearly as strong for female athletes.

    2. Women's soccer is not nearly as prevalent in the rest of the world as the men's game, though it is growing.

    Also, I'd say the USA men's team have had their moments. I was at school so only saw highlights, but I think they were very unfortunate not to beat the Germans in the 2002 World Cup Quarter Final. They could have made the final that year. And I think they did okay in the 2010 and 2014 tournaments.
    USA mens team knocked us out in the group stage of our first World Cup.
    Actually it was Spain who did so.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_FIFA_World_Cup_Group_2
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146

    Charles said:

    How many presidents does the EU have?

    How many does the UK have?

    Lord President of the Council - Mel Stride
    President of the Board of Trade - Liam Fox
    President of the Supreme Court - Lady Hale
    ...
    Presidents are dull

    Lord Great Chamberlin
    Lord High Chancellor
    Lord High Admiral
    First Sea Lord
    Earl Marshall

    And my favourite... The Queen’s Swanmaster
    What about the President of the Oxford Union?
    Lord President of the Court of Session
    President of the National Trust for Scotland
    President of the Privy Council
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,414
    The best thing about the BBC, for me, is the radio. Is there still a radio licence?
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    Foxy said:

    kjohnw said:

    The main problem now with ads on the BBC, besides advertising being the root of all evil, is that you risk causing mortal damage to ITV and/or Channel 4.

    No other country has a television licence fee . If we do want a public service broadcaster pay for it out of general taxation
    Actually quite a few countries have a TV licence fee.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26546570
    That’s a bit out of date. Sweden abolished the tv licence last year.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    kjohnw said:

    The main problem now with ads on the BBC, besides advertising being the root of all evil, is that you risk causing mortal damage to ITV and/or Channel 4.

    No other country has a television licence fee . If we do want a public service broadcaster pay for it out of general taxation
    Japan has one but the collection guy goes away if you say you haven't got a telly.

    He actually told me to tell him I didn't have a telly. I think they do it this way to keep the official collection rates up.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    What percentage of British TV channels are BBC channels these days?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884

    Charles said:

    How many presidents does the EU have?

    How many does the UK have?

    Lord President of the Council - Mel Stride
    President of the Board of Trade - Liam Fox
    President of the Supreme Court - Lady Hale
    ...
    Presidents are dull

    Lord Great Chamberlin
    Lord High Chancellor
    Lord High Admiral
    First Sea Lord
    Earl Marshall

    And my favourite... The Queen’s Swanmaster
    What about the President of the Oxford Union?
    Lord President of the Court of Session
    President of the National Trust for Scotland
    President of the Privy Council
    HMS President
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156
    edited July 2019
    What an absurd story, campaign contacts Tory members to ask for support all of whom will have provided their details to the party to participate in the election and a few of them who are Hunt supporters complain.

    Hunt campaign really scraping the barrel now in desperation to stop Boris
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156
    AndyJS said:

    Is ToryHome supporting Hunt? Their front page has a big graphic saying "Public back Hunt as best PM over Boris by 41% to 29%"

    https://www.conservativehome.com

    No, that is Hunt campaign advertising (most Tory and Brexit Party voters of course back Boris as I have pointed out on ConHome)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884

    kjohnw said:

    The main problem now with ads on the BBC, besides advertising being the root of all evil, is that you risk causing mortal damage to ITV and/or Channel 4.

    No other country has a television licence fee . If we do want a public service broadcaster pay for it out of general taxation
    Japan has one but the collection guy goes away if you say you haven't got a telly.

    He actually told me to tell him I didn't have a telly. I think they do it this way to keep the official collection rates up.
    TV Licence = TV Poll Tax!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    EU parliament is in a "very inaccessible place".

    i.e. on the European continent.

    https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1146089447303331840



  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,751
    Compared with the prospect of a No Deal Brexit in a few months, frankly who could care less about a few more or less unwanted emails on top of the mountain we already receive?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited July 2019
    2020 presidential election winner:

    Trump 2.12
    Harris 7.4
    Biden 11.5
    Warren 12.5
    Buttigieg 21
    Sanders 22
    Yang 42

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441
  • dodradedodrade Posts: 597
    dixiedean said:

    The best thing about the BBC, for me, is the radio. Is there still a radio licence?

    Not since 1971.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    AndyJS said:

    2020 presidential election winner:

    Trump 2.12
    Harris 7.4
    Biden 11.5
    Warren 12.5
    Buttigieg 21
    Sanders 22
    Yang 42

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

    Biden and Warren looking like value there.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    Wow...

    “When I went to Auschwitz I rather complacently said to myself, ‘thank goodness we don’t have to worry about that kind of thing happening in the UK’ and now I find myself faced with the leader of the Labour Party who has opened the door to antisemitism in a way that is truly frightening.”

    https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-accuses-corbyn-of-deeply-held-prejudices-against-jews/
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,751

    Wow...

    “When I went to Auschwitz I rather complacently said to myself, ‘thank goodness we don’t have to worry about that kind of thing happening in the UK’ and now I find myself faced with the leader of the Labour Party who has opened the door to antisemitism in a way that is truly frightening.”

    https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-accuses-corbyn-of-deeply-held-prejudices-against-jews/

    Patriotism does seem to have been displaced these days as the last refuge of the scoundrel.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,751
    edited July 2019
    Kim: "It's water, honestly. It just looks like concrete."
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    2020 presidential election winner:

    Trump 2.12
    Harris 7.4
    Biden 11.5
    Warren 12.5
    Buttigieg 21
    Sanders 22
    Yang 42

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

    Biden and Warren looking like value there.
    Biden certainly.
  • valleyboyvalleyboy Posts: 606
    dixiedean said:

    kjohnw said:

    DougSeal said:

    kjohnw said:

    How many are lesbians?

    My sister played for a full women’s team once and she was one of only two straight players.

    Suits the BBC agenda : gentleman Jack, killing Eve , women’s football . Time the licence fee was scrapped , it has become a minority channel taking the majorities money . And when you look at what they have been paying their top celebs : disgraceful waste of public money
    How do shows about women make the BBC a minority channel? Women form a slight majority in this country and the BBC show the men’s World Cup. What on Earth are you on about?
    Women’s football is not widely enjoyed or taken seriously , even amongst women ! I have no issue with women playing the sport , but it’s hardly peak time viewing , the BBC is heading for a slow death the way it’s going , far better entertainment now on Netflix and amazon prime and Now TV
    Each to their own. I have no interest whatsoever in the sport of tennis. However, the wall-to-wall fortnight of tyranny which is Wimbledon is now upon us. On the BBC. With women, (a significant proportion of whom are lesbians).
    Strangely, the huge expense of that is rarely criticised, despite it being scantily watched in comparison to football, until the finals.
    Presumably, that is "traditional "? Or, is it just the right sort who watch it?
    Yep, Radio 5 normally on with me 24/7. When Wimbledon on rarely tune in. Cannot be the only one turned off bt tennis coverage on BBC.
  • kjohnw said:

    The main problem now with ads on the BBC, besides advertising being the root of all evil, is that you risk causing mortal damage to ITV and/or Channel 4.

    No other country has a television licence fee . If we do want a public service broadcaster pay for it out of general taxation
    Japan has one but the collection guy goes away if you say you haven't got a telly.

    He actually told me to tell him I didn't have a telly. I think they do it this way to keep the official collection rates up.
    TV Licence = TV Poll Tax!
    Agree - The licence is the ultimate regressive tax. Just because loads of other countries have doesn't mean we should.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    Chris said:

    Kim: "It's water, honestly. It just looks like concrete."
    "I don't like steps"
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708


    TV Licence = TV Poll Tax!

    Can't pay won't pay.

    OK I could pay but it's a no.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300

    Wow...

    “When I went to Auschwitz I rather complacently said to myself, ‘thank goodness we don’t have to worry about that kind of thing happening in the UK’ and now I find myself faced with the leader of the Labour Party who has opened the door to antisemitism in a way that is truly frightening.”

    https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-accuses-corbyn-of-deeply-held-prejudices-against-jews/

    Powerful stuff, and code for don't elect Boris the race-baiter.
  • The BBC spend more money on their Glasto coverage than the Men's Football World Cup. Their ethics are all over the shop.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884

    The BBC spend more money on their Glasto coverage than the Men's Football World Cup. Their ethics are all over the shop.

    The REAL BBC "pay gap" isn't between their highly paid female presenters and their even more highly paid male presenters.

    It's actually between all those people, the BBC elite if you will, and the rest of us plebs.
  • Ms Brisk does like her Glasto coverage though. We were reminiscing about our ups and downs of Beeb Glasto today.

    Personally I only really utilise the World Service (well mens world cup and wimbeldon as well I guess) which I would have once cockily been able to state came from FCO funds, sadly no more.
  • The BBC spend more money on their Glasto coverage than the Men's Football World Cup. Their ethics are all over the shop.

    The REAL BBC "pay gap" isn't between their highly paid female presenters and their even more highly paid male presenters.

    It's actually between all those people, the BBC elite if you will, and the rest of us plebs.
    Hmmmm, tbf the beeb are paying somewhat the market rate.

    The yank on Sky news papers, Kate Andrews, doesn't think their is such a thing as a gender pay gap (overall, not just BBC) once you take into account sensible factors and I like that position.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217
    More weirdness in the T May exit market.

    How on earth do I get to £36 profit from my position here ? No I haven't hit cashout yet.

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/1146205299801563142
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217
    AndyJS said:

    AndyJS said:

    2020 presidential election winner:

    Trump 2.12
    Harris 7.4
    Biden 11.5
    Warren 12.5
    Buttigieg 21
    Sanders 22
    Yang 42

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

    Biden and Warren looking like value there.
    Biden certainly.
    Hopefully he'll have some sort of a comeback narrative in the next debate.
  • TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    rcs1000 said:

    That second yellow was a bit harsh :-(

    Having not seen the first half I didn't know she was booked, I was hoping she was only going to get booked, could have been a red IMO. She went studs first over the top of the ball, that is a red card quite often let alone a yellow.
  • Pulpstar said:

    More weirdness in the T May exit market.

    How on earth do I get to £36 profit from my position here ? No I haven't hit cashout yet.

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/1146205299801563142

    What is this a Maths exam??? You're asking like you know the answer. Have you previously backed them all and are now laying or something. ???

    Something algos???

    All of the above plus showing off you ethics?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217

    Pulpstar said:

    More weirdness in the T May exit market.

    How on earth do I get to £36 profit from my position here ? No I haven't hit cashout yet.

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/1146205299801563142

    What is this a Maths exam??? You're asking like you know the answer. Have you previously backed them all and are now laying or something. ???

    Something algos???

    All of the above plus showing off you ethics?
    I have no idea, the fair value of the book looks to be about -£109 to me.
  • JBriskinindyref2JBriskinindyref2 Posts: 1,775
    edited July 2019
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    More weirdness in the T May exit market.

    How on earth do I get to £36 profit from my position here ? No I haven't hit cashout yet.

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/1146205299801563142

    What is this a Maths exam??? You're asking like you know the answer. Have you previously backed them all and are now laying or something. ???

    Something algos???

    All of the above plus showing off you ethics?
    I have no idea, the fair value of the book looks to be about -£109 to me.
    So just showing off your ethics then? Can't say I wouldn't have hit that button.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    More weirdness in the T May exit market.

    How on earth do I get to £36 profit from my position here ? No I haven't hit cashout yet.

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/1146205299801563142

    What is this a Maths exam??? You're asking like you know the answer. Have you previously backed them all and are now laying or something. ???

    Something algos???

    All of the above plus showing off you ethics?
    I have no idea, the fair value of the book looks to be about -£109 to me.
    So just showing off your ethics then? Can't say I wouldn't have hit that button.
    Maybe he's just curious to know what's going on?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    More weirdness in the T May exit market.

    How on earth do I get to £36 profit from my position here ? No I haven't hit cashout yet.

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/1146205299801563142

    What is this a Maths exam??? You're asking like you know the answer. Have you previously backed them all and are now laying or something. ???

    Something algos???

    All of the above plus showing off you ethics?
    I have no idea, the fair value of the book looks to be about -£109 to me.
    So just showing off your ethics then? Can't say I wouldn't have hit that button.
    I'm highly doubting hitting the button will suddenly give me £36.40 profit in the market. I've asked Betfair_Cs anyway.
  • You're green by quite a bit on Oct to Dec and the markets not closed yet.

    I guess you're gambling every second you don't hit the button.

    Trust in the algos
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    Is ToryHome supporting Hunt? Their front page has a big graphic saying "Public back Hunt as best PM over Boris by 41% to 29%"

    https://www.conservativehome.com

    No, that is Hunt campaign advertising (most Tory and Brexit Party voters of course back Boris as I have pointed out on ConHome)
    Clever of Hunt to get his advert positioned like that.
  • While we all marvel at Pulpstar's leet skills.

    I note that there ain't exactly much liquidity in the B&R Betfair market.

    Do they always start like that?
  • 8000 maj - 8/1 - Well okay 7/1.

    It's a sign.
  • Yeah I reloaded - I'm a high roller really.

    I'm green Con and Brexit.

    Can't possibly be as bad as my last late night bet shenanigans. (Well I guess technically, from an accountants position it could be worse)

    See you on the other side people
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