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  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    I hear The Gallant Pioneer is THE Rangers bar, very close to the beach and a great atmosphere.

    Probably.
    Staunch brogues are essential.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,406

    eek said:

    I will wait for RCS2000's comments but it's nice to see someone who actually understands economics being appointed to a central bank...
    Varoufakis would have been an inspired choice.
    I think he may have burnt a few too many bridges - but for the Lols alone he should have been nominated by some side or other..
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    I hear The Gallant Pioneer is THE Rangers bar, very close to the beach and a great atmosphere.

    Probably.
    Am not really keen on the Sevco mob.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362

    Charles said:

    Nike 'pulls Betsy Ross flag trainer after Kaepernick complaint'

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48840608

    Woke to broke...

    As with Lush, I doubt that hardline conservatives form part of Nike's core demographic of customers.
    It’s an interesting broader question though.

    The original flag was obviously an important symbol in American history. It was misused and adopted by white supremacists/ KKK.

    Does that mean that it should be forever taboo or is there a way to “reclaim” [sic] it for the mainstream?
    Try that with the 'swastika was an ancient Indian symbol of divinity' stuff and see what happens.
    Good for some, they are selling online at $2000 now
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    Rebecca Long-Barrier :)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679
    eek said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Your life has gone wrong if you have to spend a night in Blackpool. Get a Taxi and as a minimum head to Lytham..
    Not an option.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362
    Charles said:

    Charles said:

    Nike 'pulls Betsy Ross flag trainer after Kaepernick complaint'

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48840608

    Woke to broke...

    As with Lush, I doubt that hardline conservatives form part of Nike's core demographic of customers.
    It’s an interesting broader question though.

    The original flag was obviously an important symbol in American history. It was misused and adopted by white supremacists/ KKK.

    Does that mean that it should be forever taboo or is there a way to “reclaim” [sic] it for the mainstream?
    Try that with the 'swastika was an ancient Indian symbol of divinity' stuff and see what happens.
    If I was an Indian who followed that faith then there could be an argument. (Don’t know if there any adherents left). If it’s someone with no connection to the history it’s clearly bollocks.

    For example, the Scots didn’t behave particularly well in Darien. I don’t think that should prevent proud Scots using whatever the Scottish flag was at the time as a symbol of they so choose.
    The English have behaved appallingly just about everywhere and that does not prevent them pushing the union jack up everybody's nose
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362
    TGOHF said:



    I'm interested in the Scots' bad behaviour in Darien. Pray tell me more.

    The impounding of the crew of the Worcester and the hanging of the crew.
    Given the English blockaded it and made sure it failed big time so they could steal Scotland , seems pretty tame
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156
    If there is a general election this year Corbyn is likely to still be Labour leader anyway, if not and Long-Bailey succeeds him then the Corbynite take over of Labour will be complete
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884

    Charles said:

    Nike 'pulls Betsy Ross flag trainer after Kaepernick complaint'

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48840608

    Woke to broke...

    As with Lush, I doubt that hardline conservatives form part of Nike's core demographic of customers.
    It’s an interesting broader question though.

    The original flag was obviously an important symbol in American history. It was misused and adopted by white supremacists/ KKK.

    Does that mean that it should be forever taboo or is there a way to “reclaim” [sic] it for the mainstream?
    Try that with the 'swastika was an ancient Indian symbol of divinity' stuff and see what happens.
    Ancient? It's pretty much a contemporary Indian "symbol of divinity".
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    I hear The Gallant Pioneer is THE Rangers bar, very close to the beach and a great atmosphere.

    Probably.
    LOL
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,914
    edited July 2019

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    'The Midland' which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morecambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morecambe is next to Blackpool.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362

    Christine Lagarde has the ECB nomination.

    Jobs for the girls as well as the boys, nearly as bad as Westminster with Oxford rejects
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679
    Roger said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    The Midland which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morcambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morcambe is next to Blackpool.
    I stayed at the Midland in Morecambe last year.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,406
    edited July 2019
    @TSE you are aware that the only reason Fracking is allowed in the UK is the slight hope that it will cause a serious enough earthquake that it separates Blackpool from the rest of the UK...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156

    One for @HYUFD to contemplate:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146042843691212800

    This seems to put the nail in the coffin of his theory as to what Boris Johnson would in fact do as Prime Minister with a majority.

    Far from it, Boris has confirmed he wants a FTA and to remove the temporary Customs Union for GB and he himself will never accept the backstop and will seek to renegotiate it with the EU, however if he gets a majority and the EU still won't budge and Northern Ireland voters decide to vote for the backstop until a technical solution is found to the Irish border well reluctantly he would have to accept that choice put upon him
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,478

    Nominations for EU top jobs

    Eu Commission President: Ursula von der Leyen (Germany, CDU)

    European Central Bank: Christine Lagarde

    EU Council President: Charles Michel (Belgium, Liberals)

    High Representatives for Foreign Affairs: Josep Borell (Spain, Socialists)

    I don't think I voted for any of them.

    Just like last time.
    Just like our next PM!
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,914
    edited July 2019

    Roger said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    The Midland which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morcambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morcambe is next to Blackpool.
    I stayed at the Midland in Morecambe last year.
    What did you think? Interesting hotel less interesting town? Very Agatha Christie I thought
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    If only the EU had overridden the party blocks last time. No Juncker. No need to blame his unsteadiness and slurred speech on sciatica. No need to listen to his endless barely coherent verbiage in the European Parliament. No embarrassment over his tax arrangements. Just possibly that would have swung enough votes to stop us leaving.

    And they also wouldn't have Selmayr to deal with.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    edited July 2019
    malcolmg said:

    Christine Lagarde has the ECB nomination.

    Jobs for the girls as well as the boys, nearly as bad as Westminster with Oxford rejects
    Boris Johnson was not rejected by Oxford. Nor were Cameron, Osborne and Gove. Or May, for the matter of that.

    Corbyn was of course rejected by North London Polytechnic.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    edited July 2019
    malcolmg said:

    TGOHF said:



    I'm interested in the Scots' bad behaviour in Darien. Pray tell me more.

    The impounding of the crew of the Worcester and the hanging of the crew.
    Given the English blockaded it and made sure it failed big time so they could steal Scotland , seems pretty tame
    Darien is so inhospitable that, even today, it is impossible to traverse by road - it’s the only gap in the Pan American highway - the so called “Darien Gap” in fact has no roads at all. It was not blockaded. While London refused to give any support for fear of upsetting the Spanish who claimed the area there was no “blockade”, it was a dumb idea in the wrong place. A look at the area today will tell you it was doomed to fail.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    Nominations for EU top jobs

    Eu Commission President: Ursula von der Leyen (Germany, CDU)

    European Central Bank: Christine Lagarde

    EU Council President: Charles Michel (Belgium, Liberals)

    High Representatives for Foreign Affairs: Josep Borell (Spain, Socialists)

    I don't think I voted for any of them.

    Just like last time.
    You voted for the person in the room who took part in the selection, well you’re shared electorate did. You voted for the MEPs who will confirm or not the selection I’m note sure what you actually want. The structures of the EU aren’t perfect but there is active participation of our nation state.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,733

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Embrace it. Stay near the beach, dine on fish and chips, buy a Scouser wig and tasche, and revel in the Las Vegas like absurdity of it all.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    HYUFD said:

    One for @HYUFD to contemplate:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146042843691212800

    This seems to put the nail in the coffin of his theory as to what Boris Johnson would in fact do as Prime Minister with a majority.

    Far from it, Boris has confirmed he wants a FTA and to remove the temporary Customs Union for GB and he himself will never accept the backstop and will seek to renegotiate it with the EU, however if he gets a majority and the EU still won't budge and Northern Ireland voters decide to vote for the backstop until a technical solution is found to the Irish border well reluctantly he would have to accept that choice put upon him
    There are a lot of words there but I struggle to see how they confirm your basic “far from it” premise.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679
    edited July 2019
    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    The Midland which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morcambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morcambe is next to Blackpool.
    I stayed at the Midland in Morecambe last year.
    What did you think? Interesting hotel less interesting town?
    We stayed during the hottest weekend of the year, the rooms were tiny, and so was the bed, but the rest of the hotel was lovely, the restaurant overlooking/on the beach was breathtaking.

    As for the town, there was a LIDL nearby, and I lost count of the number of smackheads and druggies we walked pass.

    The most astonishing thing about that place is that it has a Tory MP.

    It is the sort of place looks like that is has had only Labour MPs since Queen Victoria's reign.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679
    Foxy said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Embrace it. Stay near the beach, dine on fish and chips, buy a Scouser wig and tasche, and revel in the Las Vegas like absurdity of it all.
    That's the plan, I'm going on a hen night.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156

    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    The Midland which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morcambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morcambe is next to Blackpool.
    I stayed at the Midland in Morecambe last year.
    What did you think? Interesting hotel less interesting town?
    We stayed during the hottest weekend of the year, the rooms were tiny, and so was the bed, but the rest of the hotel was lovely, the restaurant overlooking/on the beach was breathtaking.

    As for the town, there was a LIDL nearby, and I lost count of the number of smackheads and druggies we walked pass.

    The most astonishing thing about that place is that it has a Tory MP.

    It is the sort of place looks like that is has had only Labour MPs since Queen Victoria's reign.
    I have always found Blackpool bed and breakfasts good value for money, bracing sea sir and enough arcades to last you a year
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Yet another potential negotiating card needlessly thrown away.
    Nah - you can’t use that. The negative perception (bad faith) would outweigh the benefit
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    eek said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Your life has gone wrong if you have to spend a night in Blackpool. Get a Taxi and as a minimum head to Lytham..
    Not an option.
    Just go with the flow, I would guess it depends on what night of the week it is but if you’re on own I think you’ll find a passable Indian restaurant and accept its not Monte Carlo
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362
    ydoethur said:

    malcolmg said:

    Christine Lagarde has the ECB nomination.

    Jobs for the girls as well as the boys, nearly as bad as Westminster with Oxford rejects
    Boris Johnson was not rejected by Oxford. Nor were Cameron, Osborne and Gove. Or May, for the matter of that.

    Corbyn was of course rejected by North London Polytechnic.
    call them what you like, bunch of retreads, Oxford degrees must be two a penny if that bunch of losers got them
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362
    DougSeal said:

    malcolmg said:

    TGOHF said:



    I'm interested in the Scots' bad behaviour in Darien. Pray tell me more.

    The impounding of the crew of the Worcester and the hanging of the crew.
    Given the English blockaded it and made sure it failed big time so they could steal Scotland , seems pretty tame
    Darien is so inhospitable that, even today, it is impossible to traverse by road - it’s the only gap in the Pan American highway - the so called “Darien Gap” in fact has no roads at all. It was not blockaded. While London refused to give any support for fear of upsetting the Spanish who claimed the area there was no “blockade”, it was a dumb idea in the wrong place. A look at the area today will tell you it was doomed to fail.
    It was indeed a scam , but as ever the dastardly English did all they could to do the Scots down, just because they were scared from the Spanish.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679
    Poor Liam Fox.
  • kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456
    nichomar said:

    eek said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Your life has gone wrong if you have to spend a night in Blackpool. Get a Taxi and as a minimum head to Lytham..
    Not an option.
    Just go with the flow, I would guess it depends on what night of the week it is but if you’re on own I think you’ll find a passable Indian restaurant and accept its not Monte Carlo
    Wasn’t the Imperial Hotel where the Tories used to stay for conference until Blackpool fell out of fashion
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,038
    nichomar said:

    Nominations for EU top jobs

    Eu Commission President: Ursula von der Leyen (Germany, CDU)

    European Central Bank: Christine Lagarde

    EU Council President: Charles Michel (Belgium, Liberals)

    High Representatives for Foreign Affairs: Josep Borell (Spain, Socialists)

    I don't think I voted for any of them.

    Just like last time.
    You voted for the person in the room who took part in the selection, well you’re shared electorate did. You voted for the MEPs who will confirm or not the selection I’m note sure what you actually want. The structures of the EU aren’t perfect but there is active participation of our nation state.
    How about something really radical like a ballot paper with the candidates names on it, where all of the voters of the EU get to show their preferences (using AV, natch), and the winner gets the gig.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    kjohnw said:

    nichomar said:

    eek said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Your life has gone wrong if you have to spend a night in Blackpool. Get a Taxi and as a minimum head to Lytham..
    Not an option.
    Just go with the flow, I would guess it depends on what night of the week it is but if you’re on own I think you’ll find a passable Indian restaurant and accept its not Monte Carlo
    Wasn’t the Imperial Hotel where the Tories used to stay for conference until Blackpool fell out of fashion
    Last time I visited Blackpool, I stayed in Manchester :)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156
    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,038

    Foxy said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Embrace it. Stay near the beach, dine on fish and chips, buy a Scouser wig and tasche, and revel in the Las Vegas like absurdity of it all.
    That's the plan, I'm going on a hen night.
    You won't be needing your own hotel room then...
  • eekeek Posts: 28,406
    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    and also no border between us and Northern Ireland..
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,038
    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    So Remain it is then.

    Does Bozo think he can just spout any old shite and people will fall for it?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    and also no border between us and Northern Ireland..
    Gay marriage?
    Abortion?
    Railways?
    Number plates (road vehicles)?
    Political parties?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156
    It would be based instead on the duty free arrangements for 95% of Canadian goods and hence UK goods too the UK is proposing under the Withdrawal Agreement
  • anothernickanothernick Posts: 3,591

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    So Remain it is then.

    Does Bozo think he can just spout any old shite and people will fall for it?
    Most people won't fall for it but Tory Party members will.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,406
    edited July 2019

    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    and also no border between us and Northern Ireland..
    Gay marriage?
    Abortion?
    Railways?
    Number plates (road vehicles)?
    Political parties?
    Nope
    Nope
    Nope
    Many people in NI actually use GB numbered plates until their car is 3 years old and the garage swaps it to an NI as it's sold on.
    Nope - it's still on religious grounds
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,131

    nichomar said:

    Nominations for EU top jobs

    Eu Commission President: Ursula von der Leyen (Germany, CDU)

    European Central Bank: Christine Lagarde

    EU Council President: Charles Michel (Belgium, Liberals)

    High Representatives for Foreign Affairs: Josep Borell (Spain, Socialists)

    I don't think I voted for any of them.

    Just like last time.
    You voted for the person in the room who took part in the selection, well you’re shared electorate did. You voted for the MEPs who will confirm or not the selection I’m note sure what you actually want. The structures of the EU aren’t perfect but there is active participation of our nation state.
    How about something really radical like a ballot paper with the candidates names on it, where all of the voters of the EU get to show their preferences (using AV, natch), and the winner gets the gig.
    So we have progressed from fantasising about a better deal from Merkel, via fantasising about German car manufacturers coming to our aid, fantasising that if we threaten no deal we will get a better deal, fantasising that Boris Johnson is in any way competent to lead anything, and now we are fantasising about a better way to elect posts in an organisation we are about to leave whilst using a method of election that was rejected the one time we put it to a referendum.

    Ooo-kay

    [Backs out of room slowly, hides under table... ]
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426

    Foxy said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Embrace it. Stay near the beach, dine on fish and chips, buy a Scouser wig and tasche, and revel in the Las Vegas like absurdity of it all.
    That's the plan, I'm going on a hen night.
    I admire you for not chickening out.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    eek said:

    I will wait for RCS2000's comments but it's nice to see someone who actually understands economics being appointed to a central bank...
    She’s a lawyer from the lawyer’s-law-firm (Baker Mac)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Embrace it. Stay near the beach, dine on fish and chips, buy a Scouser wig and tasche, and revel in the Las Vegas like absurdity of it all.
    That's the plan, I'm going on a hen night.
    I admire you for not chickening out.
    No need to be egg-splicit!
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,131
    Is it me, or has news recently moved quietly from "this will be bad in the future" to "this is bad now"?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    COME ON AMERIC...er, I mean ENGLAND!
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    malcolmg said:

    Charles said:

    Charles said:

    Nike 'pulls Betsy Ross flag trainer after Kaepernick complaint'

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48840608

    Woke to broke...

    As with Lush, I doubt that hardline conservatives form part of Nike's core demographic of customers.
    It’s an interesting broader question though.

    The original flag was obviously an important symbol in American history. It was misused and adopted by white supremacists/ KKK.

    Does that mean that it should be forever taboo or is there a way to “reclaim” [sic] it for the mainstream?
    Try that with the 'swastika was an ancient Indian symbol of divinity' stuff and see what happens.
    If I was an Indian who followed that faith then there could be an argument. (Don’t know if there any adherents left). If it’s someone with no connection to the history it’s clearly bollocks.

    For example, the Scots didn’t behave particularly well in Darien. I don’t think that should prevent proud Scots using whatever the Scottish flag was at the time as a symbol of they so choose.
    The English have behaved appallingly just about everywhere and that does not prevent them pushing the union jack up everybody's nose
    It’s got St. Andrew’s Cross in it... shared
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,131
    HYUFD said:

    It would be based instead on the duty free arrangements for 95% of Canadian goods and hence UK goods too the UK is proposing under the Withdrawal Agreement
    Is this based on anything or is it headcanon?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Embrace it. Stay near the beach, dine on fish and chips, buy a Scouser wig and tasche, and revel in the Las Vegas like absurdity of it all.
    That's the plan, I'm going on a hen night.
    I admire you for not chickening out.
    No need to be egg-splicit!
    All white, I was only yokeing.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    eek said:

    @TSE you are aware that the only reason Fracking is allowed in the UK is the slight hope that it will cause a serious enough earthquake that it separates Blackpool from the rest of the UK...

    I learnt this week that America is in the process of splitting in two* with the break in southern Missouri

    * physically I mean
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    So Remain it is then.

    Does Bozo think he can just spout any old shite and people will fall for it?
    If we leave the EU without a deal then we will be sued by the WTO if we fail to implement border controls and tariffs, as would the EU if they let it happen. You can’t just sit there and day there won’t be a hard border how does he get away with complete crap?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    eek said:

    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    and also no border between us and Northern Ireland..
    Gay marriage?
    Abortion?
    Railways?
    Number plates (road vehicles)?
    Political parties?
    Nope
    Nope
    Nope
    Many people in NI actually use GB numbered plates until their car is 3 years old and the garage swaps it to an NI as it's sold on.
    Nope - it's still on religious grounds
    I'm fairly sure there are railways in Northern Ireland.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Not only does Morecambe have a Tory MP, but so does Blackpool North, and Blackpool South has a Labour majority of just 2,500.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156
    viewcode said:

    HYUFD said:

    It would be based instead on the duty free arrangements for 95% of Canadian goods and hence UK goods too the UK is proposing under the Withdrawal Agreement
    Is this based on anything or is it headcanon?
    It is based on what the Canadian side said in the article
  • ralphmalphralphmalph Posts: 2,201

    Prediction: if Boris actually becomes PM and lasts, he will fall out with his CoE over spending/tax.

    Why would he not appoint a CotE that agrees with his spend and tax policies?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426

    Prediction: if Boris actually becomes PM and lasts, he will fall out with his CoE over spending/tax.

    Why would he not appoint a CotE that agrees with his spend and tax policies?
    Lunatics are barred from Parliament.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156
    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    and also no border between us and Northern Ireland..
    Boris can try and renegotiate the backstop and if the EU refuse propose to Leave the EU aiming for a GB FTA and no backstop for NI but if necessary No Deal.

    He could then put that to a referendum in NI, if NI voters say No Boris can say, sorry tried my best but have to respect democracy to avoid a hard border with the Republic of Ireland
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    and also no border between us and Northern Ireland..
    Gay marriage?
    Abortion?
    Railways?
    Number plates (road vehicles)?
    Political parties?
    Nope
    Nope
    Nope
    Many people in NI actually use GB numbered plates until their car is 3 years old and the garage swaps it to an NI as it's sold on.
    Nope - it's still on religious grounds
    I'm fairly sure there are railways in Northern Ireland.
    Hard border! And there's a break of gauge even if there wasn't a hard border.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    1-0!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    So Remain it is then.

    Does Bozo think he can just spout any old shite and people will fall for it?
    Even the EU want a technical solution to replace the backstop ultimately and that would still be compatible with a GB FTA
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,733
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    Embrace it. Stay near the beach, dine on fish and chips, buy a Scouser wig and tasche, and revel in the Las Vegas like absurdity of it all.
    That's the plan, I'm going on a hen night.
    I admire you for not chickening out.
    Hopefully no cock ups!
  • ralphmalphralphmalph Posts: 2,201
    nichomar said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    So Remain it is then.

    Does Bozo think he can just spout any old shite and people will fall for it?
    If we leave the EU without a deal then we will be sued by the WTO if we fail to implement border controls and tariffs, as would the EU if they let it happen. You can’t just sit there and day there won’t be a hard border how does he get away with complete crap?
    I am interested in this question and i have not seen that the WTO can take universal action, for clarity I have not seen that they can not. Having said that the normal sequence of events is that a member instigates the action and it must prove that its trade has, has being the important word, damaged by the actions of the country that has made a change. This means that a period of time must past to prove the trade has been damaged and what country would be able to claim that if we did implement implement tariffs or not that are the same for the RoW as they are for RoI?
  • ralphmalphralphmalph Posts: 2,201
    ydoethur said:

    Prediction: if Boris actually becomes PM and lasts, he will fall out with his CoE over spending/tax.

    Why would he not appoint a CotE that agrees with his spend and tax policies?
    Lunatics are barred from Parliament.
    Could have fooled me.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,038
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    So Remain it is then.

    Does Bozo think he can just spout any old shite and people will fall for it?
    Even the EU want a technical solution to replace the backstop ultimately and that would still be compatible with a GB FTA
    Parliament has rejected the backstop 3 times. Bozo has ruled out all other options that we can leave under. Ergo, we remain.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    1-1!
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176

    1-1!

    A very good goal.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    ydoethur said:

    Prediction: if Boris actually becomes PM and lasts, he will fall out with his CoE over spending/tax.

    Why would he not appoint a CotE that agrees with his spend and tax policies?
    Lunatics are barred from Parliament.
    And yet there sits the ERG ....
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,038

    1-1!

    Are you now posting using binary notation?


    111000111001110001110000111011011010101
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,156

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    So Remain it is then.

    Does Bozo think he can just spout any old shite and people will fall for it?
    Even the EU want a technical solution to replace the backstop ultimately and that would still be compatible with a GB FTA
    Parliament has rejected the backstop 3 times. Bozo has ruled out all other options that we can leave under. Ergo, we remain.
    No we move to a FTA and a technical solution for the Irish border and hold a referendum in NI on that proposal or the backstop, if they vote for it it is the EU with the problem, if not Boris can state he tried to stop the backstop but NI voters disagreed
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    ydoethur said:

    Prediction: if Boris actually becomes PM and lasts, he will fall out with his CoE over spending/tax.

    Why would he not appoint a CotE that agrees with his spend and tax policies?
    Lunatics are barred from Parliament.
    Didn't stop Marc Francois!
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176
    So George Osborne for the IMF job?
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    nichomar said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    So Remain it is then.

    Does Bozo think he can just spout any old shite and people will fall for it?
    If we leave the EU without a deal then we will be sued by the WTO if we fail to implement border controls and tariffs, as would the EU if they let it happen. You can’t just sit there and day there won’t be a hard border how does he get away with complete crap?
    I am interested in this question and i have not seen that the WTO can take universal action, for clarity I have not seen that they can not. Having said that the normal sequence of events is that a member instigates the action and it must prove that its trade has, has being the important word, damaged by the actions of the country that has made a change. This means that a period of time must past to prove the trade has been damaged and what country would be able to claim that if we did implement implement tariffs or not that are the same for the RoW as they are for RoI?
    To be honest the exact technicalities escape me but I have read in a number of articles that ROI and NI can just ignore the rules without sanctions. The most recent implied that the EU would in those circumstances have to implement a hard border between ROI and themselves. I think I’ll stick with the football now!
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,131
    tlg86 said:

    So George Osborne for the IMF job?

    Doesn't the UK have a vote in the nomination? I seem to remember Cameron blocked Brown. If so, I assume May will not nominate Osborne because she hates him.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300

    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    The Midland which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morcambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morcambe is next to Blackpool.
    I stayed at the Midland in Morecambe last year.
    What did you think? Interesting hotel less interesting town?
    We stayed during the hottest weekend of the year, the rooms were tiny, and so was the bed, but the rest of the hotel was lovely, the restaurant overlooking/on the beach was breathtaking.

    As for the town, there was a LIDL nearby, and I lost count of the number of smackheads and druggies we walked pass.

    The most astonishing thing about that place is that it has a Tory MP.

    It is the sort of place looks like that is has had only Labour MPs since Queen Victoria's reign.
    What was it about the Conservative leadership election that made you associate drugs with Labour MPs?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679
    tlg86 said:

    So George Osborne for the IMF job?

    I don't think he could afford the pay cuts especially now that he has an alimony to pay.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    1-1!

    Are you now posting using binary notation?


    111000111001110001110000111011011010101
    Nah, just the Lesbo Women's World Cup
    That’s uncalled for
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679

    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    The Midland which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morcambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morcambe is next to Blackpool.
    I stayed at the Midland in Morecambe last year.
    What did you think? Interesting hotel less interesting town?
    We stayed during the hottest weekend of the year, the rooms were tiny, and so was the bed, but the rest of the hotel was lovely, the restaurant overlooking/on the beach was breathtaking.

    As for the town, there was a LIDL nearby, and I lost count of the number of smackheads and druggies we walked pass.

    The most astonishing thing about that place is that it has a Tory MP.

    It is the sort of place looks like that is has had only Labour MPs since Queen Victoria's reign.
    What was it about the Conservative leadership election that made you associate drugs with Labour MPs?
    It was in conjunction with the LIDL.

    Show me a photo of Michael Gove in a LIDL and I'll revise my opinion.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    nichomar said:

    1-1!

    Are you now posting using binary notation?


    111000111001110001110000111011011010101
    Nah, just the Lesbo Women's World Cup
    That’s uncalled for
    An honest mistake!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884

    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    The Midland which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morcambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morcambe is next to Blackpool.
    I stayed at the Midland in Morecambe last year.
    What did you think? Interesting hotel less interesting town?
    We stayed during the hottest weekend of the year, the rooms were tiny, and so was the bed, but the rest of the hotel was lovely, the restaurant overlooking/on the beach was breathtaking.

    As for the town, there was a LIDL nearby, and I lost count of the number of smackheads and druggies we walked pass.

    The most astonishing thing about that place is that it has a Tory MP.

    It is the sort of place looks like that is has had only Labour MPs since Queen Victoria's reign.
    What was it about the Conservative leadership election that made you associate drugs with Labour MPs?
    It was in conjunction with the LIDL.

    Show me a photo of Michael Gove in a LIDL and I'll revise my opinion.
    It's actually Lidl (small case "idl").
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    2-1 to the USA!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426

    ydoethur said:

    Prediction: if Boris actually becomes PM and lasts, he will fall out with his CoE over spending/tax.

    Why would he not appoint a CotE that agrees with his spend and tax policies?
    Lunatics are barred from Parliament.
    Didn't stop Marc Francois!
    OK, good answer.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426

    ydoethur said:

    Prediction: if Boris actually becomes PM and lasts, he will fall out with his CoE over spending/tax.

    Why would he not appoint a CotE that agrees with his spend and tax policies?
    Lunatics are barred from Parliament.
    Could have fooled me.
    JackW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Prediction: if Boris actually becomes PM and lasts, he will fall out with his CoE over spending/tax.

    Why would he not appoint a CotE that agrees with his spend and tax policies?
    Lunatics are barred from Parliament.
    And yet there sits the ERG ....
    Also good answers...
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    The Autumn of 2000 was the wettest recorded in the United Kingdom since records began and I spent three days of it at a conference of local government lawyers in Blackpool. I’ve had better weeks.
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    edited July 2019
    Charles said:

    eek said:

    I will wait for RCS2000's comments but it's nice to see someone who actually understands economics being appointed to a central bank...
    She’s a lawyer from the lawyer’s-law-firm (Baker Mac)
    The idea that the BM is the lawyers’ law firm is baffling. How on earth do you reach that conclusion?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    DougSeal said:

    The Autumn of 2000 was the wettest recorded in the United Kingdom since records began and I spent three days of it at a conference of local government lawyers in Blackpool. I’ve had better weeks.

    Good grief.

    You know that's illegal in the US? Contravenes the eighth amendment.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300

    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    The Midland which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morcambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morcambe is next to Blackpool.
    I stayed at the Midland in Morecambe last year.
    What did you think? Interesting hotel less interesting town?
    We stayed during the hottest weekend of the year, the rooms were tiny, and so was the bed, but the rest of the hotel was lovely, the restaurant overlooking/on the beach was breathtaking.

    As for the town, there was a LIDL nearby, and I lost count of the number of smackheads and druggies we walked pass.

    The most astonishing thing about that place is that it has a Tory MP.

    It is the sort of place looks like that is has had only Labour MPs since Queen Victoria's reign.
    What was it about the Conservative leadership election that made you associate drugs with Labour MPs?
    It was in conjunction with the LIDL.

    Show me a photo of Michael Gove in a LIDL and I'll revise my opinion.
    Here is Jeremy Hunt photoshopped into a Lidl.
    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/nurses-quit-nhs-to-work-in-lidl-because-pay-hours-and-benefits-better/02/07/
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    ydoethur said:

    DougSeal said:

    The Autumn of 2000 was the wettest recorded in the United Kingdom since records began and I spent three days of it at a conference of local government lawyers in Blackpool. I’ve had better weeks.

    Good grief.

    You know that's illegal in the US? Contravenes the eighth amendment.
    Including the Death Penalty??
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163

    One for @HYUFD to contemplate:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146042843691212800

    This seems to put the nail in the coffin of his theory as to what Boris Johnson would in fact do as Prime Minister with a majority.

    Maybe, although his actual plans don't seem ideal for his stated aims either.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426

    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Advice from PBers.

    What's the best hotel in Blackpool? Preferably close to the beach.

    The stars have (mis)aligned and I need to spend a night in Blackpool.

    The Midland which is an authentic Art Deco Hotel in Morcambe is very good and interesting. I went there just to try the hotel a few years ago. Morcambe is next to Blackpool.
    I stayed at the Midland in Morecambe last year.
    What did you think? Interesting hotel less interesting town?
    We stayed during the hottest weekend of the year, the rooms were tiny, and so was the bed, but the rest of the hotel was lovely, the restaurant overlooking/on the beach was breathtaking.

    As for the town, there was a LIDL nearby, and I lost count of the number of smackheads and druggies we walked pass.

    The most astonishing thing about that place is that it has a Tory MP.

    It is the sort of place looks like that is has had only Labour MPs since Queen Victoria's reign.
    What was it about the Conservative leadership election that made you associate drugs with Labour MPs?
    It was in conjunction with the LIDL.

    Show me a photo of Michael Gove in a LIDL and I'll revise my opinion.
    Here is Jeremy Hunt photoshopped into a Lidl.
    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/nurses-quit-nhs-to-work-in-lidl-because-pay-hours-and-benefits-better/02/07/
    Missed a trick there.

    Should have put him in front of the frozen fish section.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,406
    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    and also no border between us and Northern Ireland..
    Gay marriage?
    Abortion?
    Railways?
    Number plates (road vehicles)?
    Political parties?
    Nope
    Nope
    Nope
    Many people in NI actually use GB numbered plates until their car is 3 years old and the garage swaps it to an NI as it's sold on.
    Nope - it's still on religious grounds
    I'm fairly sure there are railways in Northern Ireland.
    They run on a different gauge to the rest of the UK - which is what Sunil will care about...

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    While I know everybody is watching the football, I thought I'd write a quick comment on Christine Lagarde's appointment to head the ECB.

    I've never met her, but I have friends who worked for her at the IMF. They all have a great deal of respect for her: she's extremely sharp, and very driven.

    What she is not - though - is an academic economist. What views she has are pretty orthodox (the IMF shaped her, rather than the other way around). She believes countries need to live within their means, and I think she's likely to clash early and often with the Italians.

    (That being said: I wouldn't be surprised if she resurrected the Eurobond idea - where countries debts are severally guaranteed up to a certain percentage of GDP. The price for this, though, would be the ECB taking an increasingly activist role in policing countries budgets.)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426

    ydoethur said:

    DougSeal said:

    The Autumn of 2000 was the wettest recorded in the United Kingdom since records began and I spent three days of it at a conference of local government lawyers in Blackpool. I’ve had better weeks.

    Good grief.

    You know that's illegal in the US? Contravenes the eighth amendment.
    Including the Death Penalty??
    Being sent to Blackpool isn't quite the death penalty.

    Apart from anything else, executions are usually quicker.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    rcs1000 said:

    While I know everybody is watching the football, I thought I'd write a quick comment on Christine Lagarde's appointment to head the ECB.

    I've never met her, but I have friends who worked for her at the IMF. They all have a great deal of respect for her: she's extremely sharp, and very driven.

    What she is not - though - is an academic economist. What views she has are pretty orthodox (the IMF shaped her, rather than the other way around). She believes countries need to live within their means, and I think she's likely to clash early and often with the Italians.

    (That being said: I wouldn't be surprised if she resurrected the Eurobond idea - where countries debts are severally guaranteed up to a certain percentage of GDP. The price for this, though, would be the ECB taking an increasingly activist role in policing countries budgets.)

    Christine Lagarde got the IMF gig because George Osborne rather spitefully refused to nominate Gordon Brown, who was preferred by the Americans.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2011/may/23/imf-succession-agenda-brown-cameron
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    eek said:

    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1146073089723289600?s=20

    So Boris also commits to avoid a hard border in Ireland

    and also no border between us and Northern Ireland..
    Gay marriage?
    Abortion?
    Railways?
    Number plates (road vehicles)?
    Political parties?
    Nope
    Nope
    Nope
    Many people in NI actually use GB numbered plates until their car is 3 years old and the garage swaps it to an NI as it's sold on.
    Nope - it's still on religious grounds
    I'm fairly sure there are railways in Northern Ireland.
    They run on a different gauge to the rest of the UK - which is what Sunil will care about...


    5ft 3in to be exact, as opposed to 4ft 8 and a half inches "standard gauge" on GB and most of the rest of Europe.

    Notable exceptions on GB include 4ft gauge on the Glasgow Subway, and various narrow gauge heritage railways.
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