Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
Good to know that Tory members are so relaxed about people's personal lives these days. They've come a long way since, I don't know, a couple of years ago.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Do you think most divorces entail restraining orders? The character of an aspiring Prime Minister is a legitimate subject of debate.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Do you think most divorces entail restraining orders? The character of an aspiring Prime Minister is a legitimate subject of debate.
The question for betting purposes is does the selectorate care though ?
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Do you think most divorces entail restraining orders? The character of an aspiring Prime Minister is a legitimate subject of debate.
I have just checked and that post was posted 12 hours ago and has now been deleted, I suspect that may be some legal issues were involved even libel lawyers.
Even if it were true Boris was not convicted of any crime
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Do you think most divorces entail restraining orders? The character of an aspiring Prime Minister is a legitimate subject of debate.
The question for betting purposes is does the selectorate care though ?
Of course they don’t. The Conservative party is fighting a by-election on the explicit pitch “better a convict than a Remainer”. They won’t care if the guy they think will deliver Brexit is a serial killer.
So taxpayers will now be expected to pick up the tab to bail out business hit by no deal .
It’s a shame they can’t just ask Leavers to stump up the money for this . Apparently they all knew what they were voting for so should be happy to pay up to seal their Brexit dream !
Perhaps i'm overthinking it, but is it possible that Hunt's line on this is actually an attempt to get the Conservative party to seriously confront the reality of no deal, in a vain attempt to create a route to being able to get off the hook they've impaled themselves on? He can't get anywhere by opposing no deal because of the consequences ("project fear"), so has decided to go down the route of claiming that he will implement no deal despite the consequences (Johnson of course is arguing that there will be no serious consequences).
And it may be a position being pushed with an eye on a possible no deal aftermath.
I was wondering too what Hunt's agenda is with his disgusting remarks. My guess is he still applies a Remainer logic that if A then B. If we want Brexit at all costs, there is no crime too big in its execution. This way he can show his fanatical dedication to the cause of Brexit and get the trust of the typical Tory Party member.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Why on earth would you say that. Where has integrity gone
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Do you think most divorces entail restraining orders? The character of an aspiring Prime Minister is a legitimate subject of debate.
I have just checked and that post was posted 12 hours ago and has now been deleted, I suspect that may be some legal issues were involved even libel lawyers.
Even if it were true Boris was not convicted of any crime
It presumably relates to the story on the front page of the Sunday Times this morning. Which only implied there might have been a restraining order, but didn't explicitly say so.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
Everyone commenting about it all on twitter seems to have a european flag or FBPE in their username though.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
To paraphrase Burns, “A Shit’s a Shit for A' That".
This no doubt the same pollster that had a majority of seats now backing Remain a few months before the Brexit Party came first in 2/3 of local authority areas in the European Parliament elections?
Add up the LibDem, CUK, Nats and Green votes (add a proportion of the Labour vote at your leisure) and the mystery is solved....
Anyway back on the Brexit Party policies - targeting the graduate vote by reducing the interest cost of loans is an, er, 'interesting' bit of political positioning...
Not convinced there's an awful lot of votes in it for them (in particular) but we'll see... (presumably it's just to make the pensioners feel good about voting for them - "for the kids")
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Leavers should worry who Boris will betray and abandon next.
Corbyn's chosen one looks to be Long Bailey, and a remainer challenge could just as equally emerge from Tom Watson who is currently 20-1 as Thornberry.
Anyhow Thornberry now looks too short to me, Long Bailey should have favoritism I think - Not that I think she's good to back at current odds of around 9-1... very much a laying game still.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
Everyone commenting about it all on twitter seems to have a european flag or FBPE in their username though.
Yeah - like MailOnline, a well known hangout of “diehard remainers”. "When asked about the incident, Mostyn-Owen refused to comment directly but held up a copy of the New Statesman whose cover depicted Johnson with the headline 'Restraining Order'.
Anyway back on the Brexit Party policies - targeting the graduate vote by reducing the interest cost of loans is an, er, 'interesting' bit of political positioning...
Not convinced there's an awful lot of votes in it for them (in particular) but we'll see... (presumably it's just to make the pensioners feel good about voting for them - "for the kids")
If pensioners gave two hoots for the grandkids the vast majority wouldn’t have inflicted Brexit on them .
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
Everyone commenting about it all on twitter seems to have a european flag or FBPE in their username though.
Yeah - like MailOnline, a well known hangout of “diehard remainers”.
"When asked about the incident, Mostyn-Owen refused to comment directly but held up a copy of the New Statesman whose cover depicted Johnson with the headline 'Restraining Order'.
Johnson's ex-wife said it was a 'very good cover’l
The comments are the relevant section for guessing how the Tory selectorate might react to such news I think. If the Daily Mail comments turn against Boris, it's game over for him. They might, but not before he is Tory leader.
Corbyn's chosen one looks to be Long Bailey, and a remainer challenge could just as equally emerge from Tom Watson who is currently 20-1 as Thornberry.
Anyhow Thornberry now looks too short to me, Long Bailey should have favoritism I think - Not that I think she's good to back at current odds of around 9-1... very much a laying game still.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
Everyone commenting about it all on twitter seems to have a european flag or FBPE in their username though.
Yeah - like MailOnline, a well known hangout of “diehard remainers”.
"When asked about the incident, Mostyn-Owen refused to comment directly but held up a copy of the New Statesman whose cover depicted Johnson with the headline 'Restraining Order'.
Johnson's ex-wife said it was a 'very good cover’l
The comments are the relevant section for guessing how the Tory selectorate might react to such news I think. If the Daily Mail comments turn against Boris, it's game over for him. They might, but not before he is Tory leader.
I don’t disagree. He’s got the Tory party in the bag. It’s everyone else he has to worry about and this sort of goes to that. I’d also say it goes to the veracity of the above mentioned Tweet.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
Corbyn's chosen one looks to be Long Bailey, and a remainer challenge could just as equally emerge from Tom Watson who is currently 20-1 as Thornberry.
Anyhow Thornberry now looks too short to me, Long Bailey should have favoritism I think - Not that I think she's good to back at current odds of around 9-1... very much a laying game still.
I've been laying Thornberry (table stakes) for some time.
For me it hinges on the principle of consent for NI.
It is difficult to argue against allowing the NI a referendum on whether to have a backstop or a hard border.
The DUP might try, but I doubt it would win them many friends in the region, which might give them pause for reflection.
Force the extremists to face the consequences of their intransigence.
If we have a hard border with the consent of the people of NI, then that's their choice. If they chose to maintain the current fudged situation then that's their choice as well
+1
+1 on condition that the people of NI can change the situation unilaterally in the future.
Given they will in the backstop be following laws they have no say in they must have a unilateral right to exit that or there is no ongoing principle of consent.
You know, though, we can announce that in a situation where the people of Northern Ireland voted in a referendum to exit the backstop, we would - with regret - be forced to abrogate the treaty.
Job done.
There's no need to even involve the EU in this.
My understanding is that there was no legal way to do that.
I am not comfortable in our only solution to maintain freedoms for people is to say we will break the law. Especially in advance, it is very bad faith to be operating in a way that our rights are only maintained if we act illegally. I fail to see why this can't be delegated to the people of NI [not London] and maintained that way, given that the people of NI will most likely never want to abrogate but at least then they have the right. Its a fundamental principle.
International law doesn't work like you think it does.
What "law" would the UK break if it abrogated the treaty?
It is not acting in bad faith to declare that you will always respect the democratic wishes of the people of Northern Ireland.
Indeed, I would point out that under the terms of our Treaty Membership of the UN, we are required to recognise the right of peoples' self determination. Failure to allow the people of Northern Ireland to exit the backstop would be us breaching that treaty.
I don't think this is correct, although I am absolutely not an expert in international law. Intentionally breaching a treaty obligation normally counts as an "internationally wrongful act" and can be treated the same as breaches of international law, on my understanding. There's an informative Wikipedia article on State Responsibility that covers this issue at the top level.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Why on earth would you say that. Where has integrity gone
We tried integrity and compromise with May BigG, it did not work, diehard Remainers will stop at nothing to stop Brexit and overturn the Leave vote and those who want to respect it need a leader just as ruthless, as Boris is
Hurrah! Irony is not dead. The leader of the Democratic Express Roadshow, or whatever he called it, which visited dozens of Labour CLPs last summer to urge them to deselect MPs...
...is facing deselection.
"Chris Williamson faces being deselected as a Labour MP by local activists"
Corbyn's chosen one looks to be Long Bailey, and a remainer challenge could just as equally emerge from Tom Watson who is currently 20-1 as Thornberry.
Anyhow Thornberry now looks too short to me, Long Bailey should have favoritism I think - Not that I think she's good to back at current odds of around 9-1... very much a laying game still.
I've been laying Thornberry (table stakes) for some time.
I think she's too loyal to challenge as a 2nd ref/remain candidate but not one of Corbyn's chosen few (Sacking her as Shadow Foreign Sec would cause a rumpus though so she'll stay in post)
The chosen few seem to be
Long Bailey, (Dawn) Butler and more of an outsider but still worth keeping onside, Laura Pidcock.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Why on earth would you say that. Where has integrity gone
We tried integrity and compromise with May BigG, it did not work, diehard Remainers will stop at nothing to stop Brexit and overturn the Leave vote and those who want to respect it need a leader just as ruthless, as Boris is
If there's one word I wouldn't use to describe May's approach to parliament, it's "compromise"
What if Labour never VoNC? Corbyn, to my mind, seems largely disinterested in Parliamentary procedure, preferring his allotment and rallies to anything going on in the Commons. I think his January VoNC was only done because he was under severe pressure to do so.
I just don't think he cares enough to VoNC.
That's not to say the ERG or Remainers (depending on the situation) within the Conservative party won't try, but I do really wonder about Corbyn. He's not up to the job, and this is another situation where leadership will be required and he'll fall massively short.
Only the Leader of the Opposition can table a VoNC under the terms of the FTPA as far as I'm aware.
Really? That’s not in the text of the Act itself so far as I can see. Is it a Parliamentary convention perhaps?
I believe any one can table, but only LOTO automatically gets priority over government business
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
Everyone commenting about it all on twitter seems to have a european flag or FBPE in their username though.
Yeah - like MailOnline, a well known hangout of “diehard remainers”.
"When asked about the incident, Mostyn-Owen refused to comment directly but held up a copy of the New Statesman whose cover depicted Johnson with the headline 'Restraining Order'.
Johnson's ex-wife said it was a 'very good cover’l
The comments are the relevant section for guessing how the Tory selectorate might react to such news I think. If the Daily Mail comments turn against Boris, it's game over for him. They might, but not before he is Tory leader.
Some of the Daily Mail comments on that article
'Scraping the barrel now DM? Hunt is your best bet for your preferred remain.'
'The Stop Boris Brigade are getting ever more desperate. If this woman was really frightened why wait 30 years to say anything? How much has she been paid or is she just bitter and twisted wanting her revenge to be a dish eaten very very cold.'
'There all trying to do to Boris what they do to Trump. It's doesn't work'
'Project Fear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
'Gutter journalism.'
'These continuous attacks on Boris are only strengthening his chances of being the next prime minister because the people in this vote are believe it or not just normal people.'
As well as his key commitment to Leave the EU with No Deal and go to WTO terms Nigel Farage promises to abolish interest rates on student loans, scrap HS2 and halve overseas aid use the savings to fund £200 billion of economic development outside London at a rally in Birmingham today.
He also unveiled the first 100 Brexit Party Parliamentary candidates selected ready for any snap general election.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Why on earth would you say that. Where has integrity gone
We tried integrity and compromise with May BigG, it did not work, diehard Remainers will stop at nothing to stop Brexit and overturn the Leave vote and those who want to respect it need a leader just as ruthless, as Boris is
If there's one word I wouldn't use to describe May's approach to parliament, it's "compromise"
May could have gone straight to No Deal rather than extend, she even held talks with Labour on a Customs Union, she gave diehard Remainers 3 chances to back the Withdrawal Agreement, they refused.
No more compromise, if diehard Remainers want a fight, a fight they will get
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
You keep saying that but it means nothing and it stretches the truth. 55% of the country think he’s untrustworthy. Even amongst Tory voters in last week’s YouGov found him preferred by 48% compared to 39% who preferred Hunt which, technically, is not “most”. If you think Labour leavers are going to vote for Johnson instead of Corbyn I’ve got a big tower in the middle of Paris to sell you.
Corbyn's chosen one looks to be Long Bailey, and a remainer challenge could just as equally emerge from Tom Watson who is currently 20-1 as Thornberry.
Anyhow Thornberry now looks too short to me, Long Bailey should have favoritism I think - Not that I think she's good to back at current odds of around 9-1... very much a laying game still.
I've been laying Thornberry (table stakes) for some time.
I think she's too loyal to challenge as a 2nd ref/remain candidate but not one of Corbyn's chosen few (Sacking her as Shadow Foreign Sec would cause a rumpus though so she'll stay in post)
The chosen few seem to be
Long Bailey, (Dawn) Butler and more of an outsider but still worth keeping onside, Laura Pidcock.
I would suggest keeping a small green at least on Angela Rayner. DYOR.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
As well as his key commitment to Leave the EU with No Deal and go to WTO terms Nigel Farage promises to abolish interest rates on student loans, scrap HS2 and halve overseas aid use the savings to fund £200 billion of economic development outside London at a rally in Birmingham today.
He also unveiled the first 100 Brexit Party Parliamentary candidates selected ready for any snap general election.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Why on earth would you say that. Where has integrity gone
We tried integrity and compromise with May BigG, it did not work, diehard Remainers will stop at nothing to stop Brexit and overturn the Leave vote and those who want to respect it need a leader just as ruthless, as Boris is
If there's one word I wouldn't use to describe May's approach to parliament, it's "compromise"
May could have gone straight to No Deal rather than extend, she even held talks with Labour on a Customs Union, she gave diehard Remainers 3 chances to back the Withdrawal Agreement, they refused.
No more compromise, if diehard Remainers want a fight, a fight they will get
There you go again. You’ve used it twice in that post alone.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Why on earth would you say that. Where has integrity gone
We tried integrity and compromise with May BigG, it did not work, diehard Remainers will stop at nothing to stop Brexit and overturn the Leave vote and those who want to respect it need a leader just as ruthless, as Boris is
If there's one word I wouldn't use to describe May's approach to parliament, it's "compromise"
May could have gone straight to No Deal rather than extend, she even held talks with Labour on a Customs Union, she gave diehard Remainers 3 chances to back the Withdrawal Agreement, they refused.
No more compromise, if diehard Remainers want a fight, a fight they will get
She didn't want no deal. To offer no deal instead of her deal would have been to compromise to get Brexit through
Corbyn's chosen one looks to be Long Bailey, and a remainer challenge could just as equally emerge from Tom Watson who is currently 20-1 as Thornberry.
Anyhow Thornberry now looks too short to me, Long Bailey should have favoritism I think - Not that I think she's good to back at current odds of around 9-1... very much a laying game still.
I've been laying Thornberry (table stakes) for some time.
I think she's too loyal to challenge as a 2nd ref/remain candidate but not one of Corbyn's chosen few (Sacking her as Shadow Foreign Sec would cause a rumpus though so she'll stay in post)
The chosen few seem to be
Long Bailey, (Dawn) Butler and more of an outsider but still worth keeping onside, Laura Pidcock.
I would suggest keeping a small green at least on Angela Rayner. DYOR.
My Labour book is green city, it's a long term market I've actually played quite well !
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Why on earth would you say that. Where has integrity gone
We tried integrity and compromise with May BigG, it did not work, diehard Remainers will stop at nothing to stop Brexit and overturn the Leave vote and those who want to respect it need a leader just as ruthless, as Boris is
And again. Is this a movie pitch you are making? The least interesting Bruce Willis flick ever?
This will be fascinating for political scientists and historians. Brown/Blair always maintained this kind of proposal was a disaster. A surefire way to lose an GE before the starting gun has fired.
Is it still true in 21st century with generation rent etc etc?
As well as his key commitment to Leave the EU with No Deal and go to WTO terms Nigel Farage promises to abolish interest rates on student loans, scrap HS2 and halve overseas aid use the savings to fund £200 billion of economic development outside London at a rally in Birmingham today.
He also unveiled the first 100 Brexit Party Parliamentary candidates selected ready for any snap general election.
I did not even vote Brexit Party in the European Parliament elections so I will certainly not be applying to be a Brexit Party candidate at the next general election.
I am not a No Deal diehard, I still want Brexit with a Deal
“No Deal diehard”. A variation on the theme but it’s almost like Tourette’s
Corbyn's chosen one looks to be Long Bailey, and a remainer challenge could just as equally emerge from Tom Watson who is currently 20-1 as Thornberry.
Anyhow Thornberry now looks too short to me, Long Bailey should have favoritism I think - Not that I think she's good to back at current odds of around 9-1... very much a laying game still.
I've been laying Thornberry (table stakes) for some time.
I think she's too loyal to challenge as a 2nd ref/remain candidate but not one of Corbyn's chosen few (Sacking her as Shadow Foreign Sec would cause a rumpus though so she'll stay in post)
The chosen few seem to be
Long Bailey, (Dawn) Butler and more of an outsider but still worth keeping onside, Laura Pidcock.
I would suggest keeping a small green at least on Angela Rayner. DYOR.
Yes, leaders do not often get to choose their successors. Not least this is because they lose their leadership because their ideas and methods have been discredited.
This will be fascinating for political scientists and historians. Brown/Blair always maintained this kind of proposal was a disaster. A surefire way to lose an GE before the starting gun has fired.
Is it still true in 21st century with generation rent etc etc?
Yes, as most of generation rent want to inherit the family home, see how disastrous the dementia tax was for May in 2017.
It seems Labour wants to replace inheritance tax with a gifts tax paid at income tax rates above a threshold of £125 000 on any gifts made during a lifetime or after death
Corbyn's chosen one looks to be Long Bailey, and a remainer challenge could just as equally emerge from Tom Watson who is currently 20-1 as Thornberry.
Anyhow Thornberry now looks too short to me, Long Bailey should have favoritism I think - Not that I think she's good to back at current odds of around 9-1... very much a laying game still.
I've been laying Thornberry (table stakes) for some time.
I think she's too loyal to challenge as a 2nd ref/remain candidate but not one of Corbyn's chosen few (Sacking her as Shadow Foreign Sec would cause a rumpus though so she'll stay in post)
The chosen few seem to be
Long Bailey, (Dawn) Butler and more of an outsider but still worth keeping onside, Laura Pidcock.
I would suggest keeping a small green at least on Angela Rayner. DYOR.
Yes, leaders do not often get to choose their successors. Not least this is because they lose their leadership because their ideas and methods have been discredited.
Given that Jezza has managed to plunge his party to 20% in some polls, then yes, highly discredited.
But hey comrades, as Uncle Len said on TV, the important thing is Jeremy is doing a fantastic job and there's no panic.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
The whole point is to sound unhinged. It's about connecting with your target market.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Point of order: isn't this a successful attempt to dig into Boris' personal life?
No, it is a pretty disgusting attempt to exploit a divorce for political gain
Heaven forfend that anyone should question Boris’ right to be an utter shit.
What's slightly more confusing is HYUFD absolute certainty that Johnson will deliver Brexit ("because he says so") given the man's long and proven record as an inveterate liar. Which has cost him several jobs (and could have been more), several relationships, and the trust of most people who have had the misfortune to work closely with him.
Being devious to get Brexit through is probably no bad thing at the moment
Why on earth would you say that. Where has integrity gone
We tried integrity and compromise with May BigG, it did not work, diehard Remainers will stop at nothing to stop Brexit and overturn the Leave vote and those who want to respect it need a leader just as ruthless, as Boris is
And again. Is this a movie pitch you are making? The least interesting Bruce Willis flick ever?
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
The whole point is to sound unhinged. It's about connecting with your target market.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
You keep saying that but it means nothing and it stretches the truth. 55% of the country think he’s untrustworthy. Even amongst Tory voters in last week’s YouGov found him preferred by 48% compared to 39% who preferred Hunt which, technically, is not “most”. If you think Labour leavers are going to vote for Johnson instead of Corbyn I’ve got a big tower in the middle of Paris to sell you.
Boris will win a few Labour Leave voters, particularly in the North and Midlands and Wales but no Labour Remain voters admittedly
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
I guess the social media vetting is taking longer than planned.
This is one reason the Brexit Party polling numbers (Westminster VI) are complete pants. They are going to field joke candidates. Mind you, that hasn’t hindered SLab, until recently.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
HYUFD voted REMAIN in 2016. The fanaticism of the recent convert.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
HYUFD voted REMAIN in 2016. The fanaticism of the recent convert.
A double whammy of their Brexit farce and Corbyn .
They should be really concerned by the Lib Dems polling , the fact that they’re still polling consistently between 19% and 22 % so long after the EU elections .
The longer this lasts the more those voters are going to be difficult to claw back .
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
I will keep using it because it is true
Interesting. You are using “diehard” as an adjective (an Americanism), over and over again, primarily to modify the noun “remainer”, but occasionally others too. Now, while I don’t doubt there are remainers in the world, I’m not sure how philosophically you ascribe “truth” in any objective sense to a simple modified collective noun. Tarski and much of the subsequent work on truth takes sentences to be the primary bearers of truth. Finding truth in a descriptive device is a novel one to me. It has “truth” in the same way as “white snow” has truth - without a verb where is the “truth”? You are not asserting anything. If you were to say “snow is white” however or “some remainers are diehards” then those, undoubtedly, would be true statements.
More pressingly your repetition makes for very very dull writing that makes you seem like you’ve a limited vocabulary, which I am sure isn’t true, or indeed have some sort of obsession. Try some synonyms - intransigent, inflexible, immovable, unchanging, uncompromising, unyielding, rigid, entrenched maybe? It’ll brighten everyone’s experience here as you continue to enlighten us on the coming Tory landslide.
A double whammy of their Brexit farce and Corbyn .
They should be really concerned by the Lib Dems polling , the fact that they’re still polling consistently between 19% and 22 % so long after the EU elections .
The longer this lasts the more those voters are going to be difficult to claw back .
All very volatile. But my feeling is those Remainers aren't coming back to Uncle Ho anytime soon.
What a mess Jezza is making of his so-called leadership and you just know John McDonnell knows it too.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
One imagines the press came across this while investigating whether the younger Boris was coked off his tits on icing sugar every weekend. Since that would be the bigger story, it suggests he was not. (Although if the reason for the restraining order were unearthed, that might be more important still.)
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
HYUFD voted REMAIN in 2016. The fanaticism of the recent convert.
A double whammy of their Brexit farce and Corbyn .
They should be really concerned by the Lib Dems polling , the fact that they’re still polling consistently between 19% and 22 % so long after the EU elections .
The longer this lasts the more those voters are going to be difficult to claw back .
All very volatile. But my feeling is those Remainers aren't coming back to Uncle Ho anytime soon.
What a mess Jezza is making of his so-called leadership and you just know John McDonnell knows it too.
Corbyn needs to go . But not be replaced by another loser , the talk of Rebecca Long- Bailey shows some in the party are intent on adding insult to injury .
I agree re JM , I think he’s torn between loyalty but realizing that Labour are in deep trouble .
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters.
Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
I will keep using it because it is true
Interesting. You are using “diehard” as an adjective (an Americanism), over and over again, primarily to modify the noun “remainer”, but occasionally others too. Now, while I don’t doubt there are remainers in the world, I’m not sure how philosophically you ascribe “truth” in any objective sense to a simple modified collective noun. Tarski and much of the subsequent work on truth takes sentences to be the primary bearers of truth. Finding truth in a descriptive device is a novel one to me. It has “truth” in the same way as “white snow” has truth - without a verb where is the “truth”? You are not asserting anything. If you were to say “snow is white” however or “some remainers are diehards” then those, undoubtedly, would be true statements.
More pressingly your repetition makes for very very dull writing that makes you seem like you’ve a limited vocabulary, which I am sure isn’t true, or indeed have some sort of obsession. Try some synonyms - intransigent, inflexible, immovable, unchanging, uncompromising, unyielding, rigid, entrenched maybe? It’ll brighten everyone’s experience here as you continue to enlighten us on the coming Tory landslide.
As anyone in advertising knows to get a message across you have a few key words and a snappy message you repeat over and over again, you don't try and win the Booker prize!
Dawn of the No Deal. Night of the Living No Deal. Evil No Deal. I and II ... No Deal or Alive. No Deal and Buried.
Brexit another Day. You only Brexit Twice
and of course: From Russia with No Deal.
A New Deal The Deal Strikes Back Return of the Deal The Phantom Deal Attack of the Deals Revenge of the Deal The Deal Awakens The Last Deal The Rise of Deal
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters. Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win. Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
HYUFD voted REMAIN in 2016. The fanaticism of the recent convert.
A lot of Conservatives voted Remain, perhaps even most of them. Then they had a change of leader, and a change of party line over the EU. What they always do is follow their leader. If they had another change of leader, to one who was in favour of remaining, in all probability most of them would change back again.
Mr HYUFD is not showing the fanaticism of the convert at all. He has not really been converted: he doesn`t really believe anything. He is just showing traditional loyalty, Conservative style.
Yet more dubious attempts to dig into Boris' personal life, as the polls showed last week most Tory members do not care, nor do most Tory voters and Leave voters. Just diehard Remainer dirty tricks
If this is accurate it’s not a “dirty trick”, just reporting a matter that goes to the character of a would be PM. I’ve got news for you, it’s not just “diehard remainers” as you consistently and wearyingly put it, who can’t stand the man. The majority of the British public don’t like him either.
No as the polls last week showed most LD, Labour and Remainer voters do not like Boris, most Tory, Brexit Party and Leave voters do like Boris and it is the latter coalition he needs to win. Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
HYUFD voted REMAIN in 2016. The fanaticism of the recent convert.
A lot of Conservatives voted Remain, perhaps even most of them. Then they had a change of leader, and a change of party line over the EU. What they always do is follow their leader. If they had another change of leader, to one who was in favour of remaining, in all probability most of them would change back again.
That's not really true. William Hague once characterised the leadership as "an autocracy tempered by regicide". Conservative Party members are very loyal to their leader until they are not, and when the loyalty stops, it really stops.
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Good to know that Tory members are so relaxed about people's personal lives these days. They've come a long way since, I don't know, a couple of years ago.
Even if it were true Boris was not convicted of any crime
It’s a shame they can’t just ask Leavers to stump up the money for this . Apparently they all knew what they were voting for so should be happy to pay up to seal their Brexit dream !
But actually the Leave cause is all about belief.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8052/report/1166944/yorkshire-vs-surrey-specsavers-county-championship-division-one-2019
So let’s get this straight , a country is going to embark on an act of economic self harm and then have to use tax payers money to alleviate that .
And people wonder why the world looks on in total shock and disbelief at the UK.
Not convinced there's an awful lot of votes in it for them (in particular) but we'll see... (presumably it's just to make the pensioners feel good about voting for them - "for the kids")
She is even airbrushed out of https://labour.org.uk/people/shadow-cabinet/ top picture at the moment !
Corbyn's chosen one looks to be Long Bailey, and a remainer challenge could just as equally emerge from Tom Watson who is currently 20-1 as Thornberry.
Anyhow Thornberry now looks too short to me, Long Bailey should have favoritism I think - Not that I think she's good to back at current odds of around 9-1... very much a laying game still.
"When asked about the incident, Mostyn-Owen refused to comment directly but held up a copy of the New Statesman whose cover depicted Johnson with the headline 'Restraining Order'.
Johnson's ex-wife said it was a 'very good cover’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7196765/Thirty-years-night-scared-Boris-Johnson-says-confidante-wife.html
If the Daily Mail comments turn against Boris, it's game over for him. They might, but not before he is Tory leader.
Tolhurst is a diehard Remainer fanatic determined to try and stop Brexit and Boris no matter what the cost. Left liberal attacks on the personal life of Trump and Berlusconi did not stop them winning and they will not stop Boris winning either
...is facing deselection.
"Chris Williamson faces being deselected as a Labour MP by local activists"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/29/chris-williamson-deselection-labour-antisemitism
The chosen few seem to be
Long Bailey, (Dawn) Butler and more of an outsider but still worth keeping onside, Laura Pidcock.
'Scraping the barrel now DM? Hunt is your best bet for your preferred remain.'
'The Stop Boris Brigade are getting ever more desperate. If this woman was really frightened why wait 30 years to say anything? How much has she been paid or is she just bitter and twisted wanting her revenge to be a dish eaten very very cold.'
'There all trying to do to Boris what they do to Trump. It's doesn't work'
'Project Fear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
'Gutter journalism.'
'These continuous attacks on Boris are only strengthening his chances of being the next prime minister because the people in this vote are believe it or not just normal people.'
No more compromise, if diehard Remainers want a fight, a fight they will get
BTW stop saying “diehard remainer” in every single post. You sound unhinged.
And again. Is this a movie pitch you are making? The least interesting Bruce Willis flick ever?
Is it still true in 21st century with generation rent etc etc?
https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/1145441802893365248
It seems Labour wants to replace inheritance tax with a gifts tax paid at income tax rates above a threshold of £125 000 on any gifts made during a lifetime or after death
But hey comrades, as Uncle Len said on TV, the important thing is Jeremy is doing a fantastic job and there's no panic.
I guess the social media vetting is taking longer than planned.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2019/06/30/liberal-democrat-surge-shows-scale-threat-labour/
Night of the Living No Deal.
Evil No Deal. I and II ...
No Deal or Alive.
No Deal and Buried.
A double whammy of their Brexit farce and Corbyn .
They should be really concerned by the Lib Dems polling , the fact that they’re still polling consistently between 19% and 22 % so long after the EU elections .
The longer this lasts the more those voters are going to be difficult to claw back .
You only Brexit Twice
and of course:
From Russia with No Deal.
https://twitter.com/VeeCee30/status/1144455929246572544
Straws in the wind?
More pressingly your repetition makes for very very dull writing that makes you seem like you’ve a limited vocabulary, which I am sure isn’t true, or indeed have some sort of obsession. Try some synonyms - intransigent, inflexible, immovable, unchanging, uncompromising, unyielding, rigid, entrenched maybe? It’ll brighten everyone’s experience here as you continue to enlighten us on the coming Tory landslide.
What a mess Jezza is making of his so-called leadership and you just know John McDonnell knows it too.
I agree re JM , I think he’s torn between loyalty but realizing that Labour are in deep trouble .
The Deal Strikes Back
Return of the Deal
The Phantom Deal
Attack of the Deals
Revenge of the Deal
The Deal Awakens
The Last Deal
The Rise of Deal
No Deal and Let Live
No Deal another Day
You Only No Deal Twice
No Deal: Quantum of Solace
Mr HYUFD is not showing the fanaticism of the convert at all. He has not really been converted: he doesn`t really believe anything. He is just showing traditional loyalty, Conservative style.