It is an absolute mystery how the Camberwell story is STILL running though. Even in the right wing press. It should have been the easiest thing in the world to shut down, especially as his girlfriend has shown no signs of doing anything except backing him.
I think Hunt is correct to state that Boris is a coward in The Times Newspaper on Monday. But I also think Boris is arrogant and out of touch by his refusal to debate his rival in the contest to be next PM. I think the advisers around Johnson are misreading this and Hunt can exploit this massively. What has Boris got to hide? Even before this problem with his next door neighbours he was not engaging. He will be made PM on the terms the public dictate not the other way around....
I think we'll find the vast majority of Tory members think having a blazing row with your partner is not enough reason to be voted against. They'll also think those saying Boris should explain the row, including Jeremy Hunt, are paying little or no heed to Carrie's rights of privacy.
It is an absolute mystery how the Camberwell story is STILL running though. Even in the right wing press. It should have been the easiest thing in the world to shut down, especially as his girlfriend has shown no signs of doing anything except backing him.
The mystery is what Johnson was doing on his laptop! The public are asked to put their faith in an unelected PM. Boris has to realise evasion and not confessing to his deeds comes at a price....
I think we'll find the vast majority of Tory members think having a blazing row with your partner is not enough reason to be voted against. They'll also think those saying Boris should explain the row, including Jeremy Hunt, are paying little or no heed to Carrie's rights of privacy.
I thought she was a Tory HQ media operative? If you ever work for the Tories or Labour and have a relationship with a high profile public figure privacy goes out of the window...
I think we'll find the vast majority of Tory members think having a blazing row with your partner is not enough reason to be voted against. They'll also think those saying Boris should explain the row, including Jeremy Hunt, are paying little or no heed to Carrie's rights of privacy.
What Hunt is really asking for is Johnson to say what his political position is on anything. On virtually every major issue he is sitting on the fence. With the exception of Brexit, where he seems to believe that personal willpower is enough.
Carrie doesn't live here anymore Carrie used to room on the second floor Sorry that she left no forwarding address. That was known to me Carrie doesn't live here anymore You could always ask at the corner store Carrie had a date with her own kind if fate It's plain to see
I think we'll find the vast majority of Tory members think having a blazing row with your partner is not enough reason to be voted against. They'll also think those saying Boris should explain the row, including Jeremy Hunt, are paying little or no heed to Carrie's rights of privacy.
I thought she was a Tory HQ media operative? If you ever work for the Tories or Labour and have a relationship with a high profile public figure privacy goes out of the window...
So if the row was about a sexual matter do you think Boris should have to explain it publicly?
I think we'll find the vast majority of Tory members think having a blazing row with your partner is not enough reason to be voted against. They'll also think those saying Boris should explain the row, including Jeremy Hunt, are paying little or no heed to Carrie's rights of privacy.
I thought she was a Tory HQ media operative? If you ever work for the Tories or Labour and have a relationship with a high profile public figure privacy goes out of the window...
So if the row was about a sexual matter do you think Boris should have to explain it publicly?
It depends on how you define sexual matter.
If Johnson is serious about being PM then he has his future in his own hands and should confess it. If something comes out later it will damage him more in two weeks time than it will now. He wants to be PM, he has to engage with the people he wants to govern and not skulk away and complain about press intrusion.
It is an absolute mystery how the Camberwell story is STILL running though. Even in the right wing press. It should have been the easiest thing in the world to shut down, especially as his girlfriend has shown no signs of doing anything except backing him.
The tape. The recording of the row completely changes the story.
If it was a report from a neighbour it gets dealt with in a five second statement "Nosy neighbours completely over reacting to lovers tiff".
The tape means it now becomes a tight rope for Boris to walk where ever single otterance can be verified and the slightest inexactitude can be crucified.
Carrie doesn't live here anymore Carrie used to room on the second floor Sorry that she left no forwarding address. That was known to me Carrie doesn't live here anymore You could always ask at the corner store Carrie had a date with her own kind if fate It's plain to see
Channelling Sir Cliff!
Have you see the Woody Allen Movie Husbands and Wives...itself based on Bergman's Scenes from a Marriage?
It is a major reason why I have on some occasions turned down some enticing opportunities and returned home to spend a quiet night at home...and with no regrets.
I have always found older men's obsessional lusting after younger women quite pathetic...
You think we should not be a democracy first and foremost?
Nobody voted for no deal though. Perhaps it might be an idea to check that they haven't changed their mind if this is the Brexit on offer.
Why? Do we check with them on everything?
Funny how all the people begging for this to be checked are those who disagreed with the outcome in the original vote and typically also those who disagreed with checking any step of the way towards European integration.
Carrie doesn't live here anymore Carrie used to room on the second floor Sorry that she left no forwarding address. That was known to me Carrie doesn't live here anymore You could always ask at the corner store Carrie had a date with her own kind if fate It's plain to see
Channelling Sir Cliff!
Have you see the Woody Allen Movie Husbands and Wives...itself based on Bergman's Scenes from a Marriage?
It is a major reason why I have on some occasions turned down some enticing opportunities and returned home to spend a quiet night at home...and with no regrets.
I have always found older men's obsessional lusting after younger women quite pathetic...
Somewhat ironic that it was written then, by Woody Allen. A truism nonetheless.
It is an absolute mystery how the Camberwell story is STILL running though. Even in the right wing press. It should have been the easiest thing in the world to shut down, especially as his girlfriend has shown no signs of doing anything except backing him.
The tape. The recording of the row completely changes the story.
If it was a report from a neighbour it gets dealt with in a five second statement "Nosy neighbours completely over reacting to lovers tiff".
The tape means it now becomes a tight rope for Boris to walk where ever single otterance can be verified and the slightest inexactitude can be crucified.
If there was something unbelievable bad on the tape we would already have heard it. He could easily cover it off with some form of words saying that "We'd both had difficult days, it was all triggered off by something silly (spilt wine) harsh words were spoken (can't recall exactly what) things were thrown, etc. etc.
You think we should not be a democracy first and foremost?
Nobody voted for no deal though. Perhaps it might be an idea to check that they haven't changed their mind if this is the Brexit on offer.
Why? Do we check with them on everything?
Funny how all the people begging for this to be checked are those who disagreed with the outcome in the original vote and typically also those who disagreed with checking any step of the way towards European integration.
You don't think that destroying successful businesses employing hundreds or thousands of staff, may give a bit of a pause for thought?
You think we should not be a democracy first and foremost?
Nobody voted for no deal though. Perhaps it might be an idea to check that they haven't changed their mind if this is the Brexit on offer.
Why? Do we check with them on everything?
Funny how all the people begging for this to be checked are those who disagreed with the outcome in the original vote and typically also those who disagreed with checking any step of the way towards European integration.
You don't think that destroying successful businesses employing hundreds or thousands of staff, may give a bit of a pause for thought?
No. I think its a shame though, if it happens, and we should offer help if we can for transition.
Carrie doesn't live here anymore Carrie used to room on the second floor Sorry that she left no forwarding address. That was known to me Carrie doesn't live here anymore You could always ask at the corner store Carrie had a date with her own kind if fate It's plain to see
Channelling Sir Cliff!
Have you see the Woody Allen Movie Husbands and Wives...itself based on Bergman's Scenes from a Marriage?
It is a major reason why I have on some occasions turned down some enticing opportunities and returned home to spend a quiet night at home...and with no regrets.
I have always found older men's obsessional lusting after younger women quite pathetic...
Somewhat ironic that it was written then, by Woody Allen. A truism nonetheless.
Good point. about Allen..
But both films depict older men's descent into chaos after leaving their wives for frivolous younger women, and how quickly they bitterly regret it as their lives decompose....and in both films they return back to their wives....
Carrie doesn't live here anymore Carrie used to room on the second floor Sorry that she left no forwarding address. That was known to me Carrie doesn't live here anymore You could always ask at the corner store Carrie had a date with her own kind if fate It's plain to see
Channelling Sir Cliff!
Have you see the Woody Allen Movie Husbands and Wives...itself based on Bergman's Scenes from a Marriage?
It is a major reason why I have on some occasions turned down some enticing opportunities and returned home to spend a quiet night at home...and with no regrets.
I have always found older men's obsessional lusting after younger women quite pathetic...
Somewhat ironic that it was written then, by Woody Allen. A truism nonetheless.
Good point. about Allen..
But both films depict older men's descent into chaos after leaving their wives for frivolous younger women, and how quickly they bitterly regret it as their lives decompose....and in both films they return back to their wives....
You would have thought Johnson might have learned that lesson, several times over (allegedy).
Talking about Boris Johnsons laptop, it would not surprise me if someone had hacked into it over the last few years. His mobile has probably also been monitored.
Given the lengths people/organisations will go to in this world to 'trap' unsuspecting people. It would not surprise me if several foreign powers or organisations have targeted Boris...
You think we should not be a democracy first and foremost?
We aren't in any relevant sense. We are a representative democracy who have dabbled in direct democracy on half a dozen occasions and should now conclude that it doesn't really work for us.
You are also wrong to claim that those calling for another vote "disagreed with" the outcome in 2016. I effectively abstained in 2016 and it wasn't until late 2018 that I concluded that brexit was an irretrievable disaster and we needed to think again.
I don't know if you have noticed what an increasingly isolated voice you are on this forum? It's almost as if the more intelligent former advocates of brexit had realised their mistake and quietly stopped posting about the topic, leaving you looking rather exposed.
Quite. It's not necessarily irrelevant to overall context, but many are the political partisans that pretend it is all that matters, when it affects their side.
Carrie doesn't live here anymore Carrie used to room on the second floor Sorry that she left no forwarding address. That was known to me Carrie doesn't live here anymore You could always ask at the corner store Carrie had a date with her own kind if fate It's plain to see
Channelling Sir Cliff!
Have you see the Woody Allen Movie Husbands and Wives...itself based on Bergman's Scenes from a Marriage?
It is a major reason why I have on some occasions turned down some enticing opportunities and returned home to spend a quiet night at home...and with no regrets.
I have always found older men's obsessional lusting after younger women quite pathetic...
Somewhat ironic that it was written then, by Woody Allen. A truism nonetheless.
Good point. about Allen..
But both films depict older men's descent into chaos after leaving their wives for frivolous younger women, and how quickly they bitterly regret it as their lives decompose....and in both films they return back to their wives....
The frivolous one is Boris.
I doubt many of us could put up with him for long before going off the deep end.
I guess Cox is not as true to his opinions in the face of political pressure as it appeared earlier this year when he did not give the answer May would dearly have loved to have had in relation to the tweaks to the PD. Turns out if it is Boris saying stuff, whether it is true or not in his eyes does not matter.
I note they use the term "Brexiteer MPs" and then clarify it with "former Remainers" to describe Johnson backers Nicky Morgan etc. The Telegraph is becoming a joke now, I bet they wouldn't dare describe Hunt as a Brexiteer or indeed anything other than a Remainer despite the fact that he now advocates no deal if nothing else comes along.
I think we'll find the vast majority of Tory members think having a blazing row with your partner is not enough reason to be voted against. They'll also think those saying Boris should explain the row, including Jeremy Hunt, are paying little or no heed to Carrie's rights of privacy.
I thought she was a Tory HQ media operative? If you ever work for the Tories or Labour and have a relationship with a high profile public figure privacy goes out of the window...
So if the row was about a sexual matter do you think Boris should have to explain it publicly?
She refused to swallow and Bozo got upset ! Personally I could care less what the row was about . I think the media are cremating the story now. As long as he hasn’t done anything violent towards her then I think the public won’t be that bothered .
The problem is instead of proper scrutiny over his Brexit plans the media will just print anything but for the next few weeks .
His current plan seems to be a load of bluff and bluster.
You think we should not be a democracy first and foremost?
We aren't in any relevant sense. We are a representative democracy who have dabbled in direct democracy on half a dozen occasions and should now conclude that it doesn't really work for us.
You are also wrong to claim that those calling for another vote "disagreed with" the outcome in 2016. I effectively abstained in 2016 and it wasn't until late 2018 that I concluded that brexit was an irretrievable disaster and we needed to think again.
I don't know if you have noticed what an increasingly isolated voice you are on this forum? It's almost as if the more intelligent former advocates of brexit had realised their mistake and quietly stopped posting about the topic, leaving you looking rather exposed.
Do not confuse quiet, confident amusement with stupidity. Sweet dreams
You think we should not be a democracy first and foremost?
Nobody voted for no deal though. Perhaps it might be an idea to check that they haven't changed their mind if this is the Brexit on offer.
Why? Do we check with them on everything?
Funny how all the people begging for this to be checked are those who disagreed with the outcome in the original vote and typically also those who disagreed with checking any step of the way towards European integration.
You don't think that destroying successful businesses employing hundreds or thousands of staff, may give a bit of a pause for thought?
No. I think its a shame though, if it happens, and we should offer help if we can for transition.
Can you get that help organised in less than four months?
"I ask you: Do you want total Brexit? If necessary, do you want a Brexit more total and radical than anything that we can even yet imagine?"
When Margaret Thatcher was elected in 1979 nobody though she would turn a great swathe of the UK into a post-industrial wasteland, and many people were badly hurt by her transition from heavy industry and mining to light industry and services. Yet she was re-elected twice and was PM for over a decade. Don't make the mistake of thinking that just because Brexit causes unpromised destruction it will be punished electorally.
You think we should not be a democracy first and foremost?
We aren't in any relevant sense. We are a representative democracy who have dabbled in direct democracy on half a dozen occasions and should now conclude that it doesn't really work for us.
You are also wrong to claim that those calling for another vote "disagreed with" the outcome in 2016. I effectively abstained in 2016 and it wasn't until late 2018 that I concluded that brexit was an irretrievable disaster and we needed to think again.
I don't know if you have noticed what an increasingly isolated voice you are on this forum? It's almost as if the more intelligent former advocates of brexit had realised their mistake and quietly stopped posting about the topic, leaving you looking rather exposed.
I'm not ashamed of thinking for myself and making my own mind up rather than following the crowd.
I was a Remainer until March 2016. I argued on this very site against Leave. But I eventually read some very convincing arguments and switched. That was fairly unusual.
I've not read a single original or unique argument since the referendum to make me consider switching back. Every argument made now is a rehash of the same arguments made (often by my former self) before the vote.
You think we should not be a democracy first and foremost?
Nobody voted for no deal though. Perhaps it might be an idea to check that they haven't changed their mind if this is the Brexit on offer.
Why? Do we check with them on everything?
Funny how all the people begging for this to be checked are those who disagreed with the outcome in the original vote and typically also those who disagreed with checking any step of the way towards European integration.
You don't think that destroying successful businesses employing hundreds or thousands of staff, may give a bit of a pause for thought?
No. I think its a shame though, if it happens, and we should offer help if we can for transition.
Can you get that help organised in less than four months?
Government should so it's best as a transition.
In unforeseen emergencies help can be arranged in days/weeks.
Its a good job the UK has a better exchange rate for exporters now if their margin is that low.
What currency do you think UK->EU tariffs are paid in?
What's that got to do with it ?
My point is comparing the 4% margin now with what they would have been getting with the exchange rate of three years ago.
What proportion of their input cost is in sterling?
Given that they employ 350 people in Kidderminster I'd imagine a large part of it.
Of course it should be possible to look at the accounts of this company to see if Hunt's quoting correct numbers.
My general thought is if its running on only a 4% margin even with 'half the European market sewn up' then its got big problems when the next recession arrives.
Its a good job the UK has a better exchange rate for exporters now if their margin is that low.
What currency do you think UK->EU tariffs are paid in?
What's that got to do with it ?
My point is comparing the 4% margin now with what they would have been getting with the exchange rate of three years ago.
What proportion of their input cost is in sterling?
Given that they employ 350 people in Kidderminster I'd imagine a large part of it.
Of course it should be possible to look at the accounts of this company to see if Hunt's quoting correct numbers.
My general thought is if its running on only a 4% margin even with 'half the European market sewn up' then its got big problems when the next recession arrives.
It also gives no indication as to what proportion of costs are fixed or variable Or what is cash and what is for accounting purposes.
You think we should not be a democracy first and foremost?
Nobody voted for no deal though. Perhaps it might be an idea to check that they haven't changed their mind if this is the Brexit on offer.
Why? Do we check with them on everything?
Funny how all the people begging for this to be checked are those who disagreed with the outcome in the original vote and typically also those who disagreed with checking any step of the way towards European integration.
You don't think that destroying successful businesses employing hundreds or thousands of staff, may give a bit of a pause for thought?
No. I think its a shame though, if it happens, and we should offer help if we can for transition.
Can you get that help organised in less than four months?
Government should so it's best as a transition.
In unforeseen emergencies help can be arranged in days/weeks.
In specific cases, yes. But everywhere at once? That's when things break.
In radiation poisoning, there's a thing called the "Walking Ghost" phase. If you are exposed to too much radiation, the chromosomes in your cells get destroyed and your cells can no longer reproduce. The subject feels better briefly, but parts of the body begin to die, in the order of their cell life. Bone marrow and mucous membranes die first, then the colon linings, then the skin. The victim dies horribly and attempts at a cure are pointless as the body can no longer function. If you want nightmares, google "Hisashi Ouchi"
You can avoid this by limiting the exposure or taking precautions. Brexit need not be painful, and even no-deal is survivable. Preparation and time and a plan is all that's required. But running at it and assuming everything would be hunky-dory and stuff gets better by itself is foolish.
Meanwhile, unalloyed good news from Turkey. Erdogan's attempt to overturn the election of an opposition Mayor of Istanbul has spectacularly backfired. Imamoglu extended his win, gaining 54% of the vote. To his credit, the AKP candidate has conceded defeat and congratulated him. Even more impressive, 8% was the midpoint of polling predictions! Polling success klaxon!
I think we'll find the vast majority of Tory members think having a blazing row with your partner is not enough reason to be voted against. They'll also think those saying Boris should explain the row, including Jeremy Hunt, are paying little or no heed to Carrie's rights of privacy.
What Hunt is really asking for is Johnson to say what his political position is on anything. On virtually every major issue he is sitting on the fence. With the exception of Brexit, where he seems to believe that personal willpower is enough.
It is not simply that Boris is sitting on the fence. In many cases, following Trump, he is on both sides of the fence at once.
And the graph at the top seems to show Boris's implied probability of winning is down about 10 per cent since the story broke. Is that holding up well, or is it just that he had an enormous lead to start with?
Once again, Carole has let her enthusiasm run ahead of the facts.....
The Guardian says: back and forth on text. The video has Bannon saying both on text and over text, without a "the" but I can't see the "the" in the article either. Are you sure you linked to the right one?
Once again, Carole has let her enthusiasm run ahead of the facts.....
The Guardian says: back and forth on text. The video has Bannon saying both on text and over text, without a "the" but I can't see the "the" in the article either. Are you sure you linked to the right one?
Central section in this block of the text:
The first clip shows Bannon reading a front page story in the Daily Telegraph about Johnson’s resignation speech with the headline ‘Let’s Make Britain Great Again’. He says: “Today we are going to see if Boris Johnson tries to overthrow the British government. He’s going to give a speech in the Commons.”
Bannon then says: “I’ve been talking to him all weekend about this speech. We went back and forth over the text.”
Klayman asks him if they’ve been speaking on the phone and he says: “Talked to him initially over the phone then it’s just easier to go back and forth on text. It’s just easier. I’ve been telling him one of my recommendations is that he gave one of the most important political speeches of 2016. Was his closing speech, a three-to-five-minute speech in June 2016, his closing argument on national TV for the Leave campaign ... And it was magnificent.
Once again, Carole has let her enthusiasm run ahead of the facts.....
The Guardian says: back and forth on text. The video has Bannon saying both on text and over text, without a "the" but I can't see the "the" in the article either. Are you sure you linked to the right one?
Central section in this block of the text:
The first clip shows Bannon reading a front page story in the Daily Telegraph about Johnson’s resignation speech with the headline ‘Let’s Make Britain Great Again’. He says: “Today we are going to see if Boris Johnson tries to overthrow the British government. He’s going to give a speech in the Commons.”
Bannon then says: “I’ve been talking to him all weekend about this speech. We went back and forth over the text.”
Klayman asks him if they’ve been speaking on the phone and he says: “Talked to him initially over the phone then it’s just easier to go back and forth on text. It’s just easier. I’ve been telling him one of my recommendations is that he gave one of the most important political speeches of 2016. Was his closing speech, a three-to-five-minute speech in June 2016, his closing argument on national TV for the Leave campaign ... And it was magnificent.
Anyway you are right but it looks more like bad subbing, with that one-line paragraph rather oddly inserted as a teaser for or summary of the very next paragraph.
Once again, Carole has let her enthusiasm run ahead of the facts.....
The Guardian says: back and forth on text. The video has Bannon saying both on text and over text, without a "the" but I can't see the "the" in the article either. Are you sure you linked to the right one?
Central section in this block of the text:
The first clip shows Bannon reading a front page story in the Daily Telegraph about Johnson’s resignation speech with the headline ‘Let’s Make Britain Great Again’. He says: “Today we are going to see if Boris Johnson tries to overthrow the British government. He’s going to give a speech in the Commons.”
Bannon then says: “I’ve been talking to him all weekend about this speech. We went back and forth over the text.”
Klayman asks him if they’ve been speaking on the phone and he says: “Talked to him initially over the phone then it’s just easier to go back and forth on text. It’s just easier. I’ve been telling him one of my recommendations is that he gave one of the most important political speeches of 2016. Was his closing speech, a three-to-five-minute speech in June 2016, his closing argument on national TV for the Leave campaign ... And it was magnificent.
Anyway you are right but it looks more like bad subbing, with that one-line paragraph rather oddly inserted as a teaser for or summary of the very next paragraph.
It might be if Carole had replied to Evan Davis tweet making this point now nearly 24 hours ago. But she hasn't - just continued to complain about why the BBC aren't carrying her story.
Once again, Carole has let her enthusiasm run ahead of the facts.....
The Guardian says: back and forth on text. The video has Bannon saying both on text and over text, without a "the" but I can't see the "the" in the article either. Are you sure you linked to the right one?
Central section in this block of the text:
The first clip shows Bannon reading a front page story in the Daily Telegraph about Johnson’s resignation speech with the headline ‘Let’s Make Britain Great Again’. He says: “Today we are going to see if Boris Johnson tries to overthrow the British government. He’s going to give a speech in the Commons.”
Bannon then says: “I’ve been talking to him all weekend about this speech. We went back and forth over the text.”
Klayman asks him if they’ve been speaking on the phone and he says: “Talked to him initially over the phone then it’s just easier to go back and forth on text. It’s just easier. I’ve been telling him one of my recommendations is that he gave one of the most important political speeches of 2016. Was his closing speech, a three-to-five-minute speech in June 2016, his closing argument on national TV for the Leave campaign ... And it was magnificent.
Anyway you are right but it looks more like bad subbing, with that one-line paragraph rather oddly inserted as a teaser for or summary of the very next paragraph.
It might be if Carole had replied to Evan Davis tweet making this point now nearly 24 hours ago. But she hasn't - just continued to complain about why the BBC aren't carrying her story.
I'm afraid I do not follow Twitter but in any case, I am not really sure what the fuss is about on either side. I can't see what difference it makes when, where or even whether Boris dealt with Bannon during the referendum in which we already know Bannon has links to Farage, except that it adds vaguely to the sense that Boris is not answering questions (on anything). Perhaps things will be clearer in the morning.
I understand wealthy people have different tastes. But I can furnish an entire flat from your local British Heart Foundation Furniture and Electrical store. You can pick up some nice stuff in there, and there are such things as French polishers...
I'm afraid I do not follow Twitter but in any case, I am not really sure what the fuss is about on either side. I can't see what difference it makes when, where or even whether Boris dealt with Bannon during the referendum in which we already know Bannon has links to Farage, except that it adds vaguely to the sense that Boris is not answering questions (on anything). Perhaps things will be clearer in the morning.
Evans point is that the text implies close involvement in its drafting - not supported by the video. While discussing things by text is much looser.
Not for the first time, Carole has over-egged her pudding.
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https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1142883370856275971
Carrie used to room on the second floor
Sorry that she left no forwarding address.
That was known to me
Carrie doesn't live here anymore
You could always ask at the corner store
Carrie had a date with her own kind if fate
It's plain to see
Channelling Sir Cliff!
https://twitter.com/guylodge/status/1142857177536835586?s=21
Busy trying to divvy out the top jobs, whilst his campaign is on fire.
Talk about hubris.
If Johnson is serious about being PM then he has his future in his own hands and should confess it. If something comes out later it will damage him more in two weeks time than it will now. He wants to be PM, he has to engage with the people he wants to govern and not skulk away and complain about press intrusion.
If it was a report from a neighbour it gets dealt with in a five second statement "Nosy neighbours completely over reacting to lovers tiff".
The tape means it now becomes a tight rope for Boris to walk where ever single otterance can be verified and the slightest inexactitude can be crucified.
Bannon claimed last year he was involved with Boris - it was reported on the news.
Johnson denied it last year - it was less widely reported but was.
Now we have a video of Bannon claiming that which we already knew he had claimed. That is news how exactly?
If the BBC get a video of David Icke claiming our politicians are lizard people should they run that?
It is a major reason why I have on some occasions turned down some enticing opportunities and returned home to spend a quiet night at home...and with no regrets.
I have always found older men's obsessional lusting after younger women quite pathetic...
Is the bottling going to become an issue or are the membership so steadfast in their determination to elect Boris they don't care.
If so, they will probably be getting another ballot paper before the year is out.
Funny how all the people begging for this to be checked are those who disagreed with the outcome in the original vote and typically also those who disagreed with checking any step of the way towards European integration.
Earth shattering for Carole, but maybe the BBC have more important issues.
I couldn't care less that "Nigey" said, he's a tosser like Bannon.
Why has Bannon got Boris's iphone # and vice versa? Bannon has been out of white house for a year or more iirc.
But both films depict older men's descent into chaos after leaving their wives for frivolous younger women, and how quickly they bitterly regret it as their lives decompose....and in both films they return back to their wives....
Given the lengths people/organisations will go to in this world to 'trap' unsuspecting people. It would not surprise me if several foreign powers or organisations have targeted Boris...
You are also wrong to claim that those calling for another vote "disagreed with" the outcome in 2016. I effectively abstained in 2016 and it wasn't until late 2018 that I concluded that brexit was an irretrievable disaster and we needed to think again.
I don't know if you have noticed what an increasingly isolated voice you are on this forum? It's almost as if the more intelligent former advocates of brexit had realised their mistake and quietly stopped posting about the topic, leaving you looking rather exposed.
I doubt many of us could put up with him for long before going off the deep end.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/23/northern-ireland-backstop-can-made-obsolete-using-existing-technology/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7172895/Britain-consider-joining-military-assault-Iran-Jeremy-Hunt-says.html
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1142794697234100224?s=21
The problem is instead of proper scrutiny over his Brexit plans the media will just print anything but for the next few weeks .
His current plan seems to be a load of bluff and bluster.
My point is comparing the 4% margin now with what they would have been getting with the exchange rate of three years ago.
I was a Remainer until March 2016. I argued on this very site against Leave. But I eventually read some very convincing arguments and switched. That was fairly unusual.
I've not read a single original or unique argument since the referendum to make me consider switching back. Every argument made now is a rehash of the same arguments made (often by my former self) before the vote.
In unforeseen emergencies help can be arranged in days/weeks.
Of course it should be possible to look at the accounts of this company to see if Hunt's quoting correct numbers.
My general thought is if its running on only a 4% margin even with 'half the European market sewn up' then its got big problems when the next recession arrives.
In radiation poisoning, there's a thing called the "Walking Ghost" phase. If you are exposed to too much radiation, the chromosomes in your cells get destroyed and your cells can no longer reproduce. The subject feels better briefly, but parts of the body begin to die, in the order of their cell life. Bone marrow and mucous membranes die first, then the colon linings, then the skin. The victim dies horribly and attempts at a cure are pointless as the body can no longer function. If you want nightmares, google "Hisashi Ouchi"
You can avoid this by limiting the exposure or taking precautions. Brexit need not be painful, and even no-deal is survivable. Preparation and time and a plan is all that's required. But running at it and assuming everything would be hunky-dory and stuff gets better by itself is foolish.
https://twitter.com/francesbarber13/status/1142930108484935682?s=20
(sorry, I'm a sucker for old granny furniture).
Although that carpet is probably unrefurbishable...
Even more impressive, 8% was the midpoint of polling predictions! Polling success klaxon!
https://www.ft.com/content/15a569ca-d1a8-11e5-831d-09f7778e7377
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7173013/JANE-FRYER-asks-crumpled-unstatesmanlike-Boris-feeling-strain-bid-PM.html
And the graph at the top seems to show Boris's implied probability of winning is down about 10 per cent since the story broke. Is that holding up well, or is it just that he had an enormous lead to start with?
Bannon then says: “I’ve been talking to him all weekend about this speech. We went back and forth over the text.”
She heard a the that I didn't.
Make your own minds up:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/22/video-reveals-steve-bannon-links-to-boris-johnson?CMP=share_btn_tw
Once again, Carole has let her enthusiasm run ahead of the facts.....
The first clip shows Bannon reading a front page story in the Daily Telegraph about Johnson’s resignation speech with the headline ‘Let’s Make Britain Great Again’. He says: “Today we are going to see if Boris Johnson tries to overthrow the British government. He’s going to give a speech in the Commons.”
Bannon then says: “I’ve been talking to him all weekend about this speech. We went back and forth over the text.”
Klayman asks him if they’ve been speaking on the phone and he says: “Talked to him initially over the phone then it’s just easier to go back and forth on text. It’s just easier. I’ve been telling him one of my recommendations is that he gave one of the most important political speeches of 2016. Was his closing speech, a three-to-five-minute speech in June 2016, his closing argument on national TV for the Leave campaign ... And it was magnificent.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/22/boris-johnson-steve-bannon-texts-foreign-secretary-resignation-speech
Anyway you are right but it looks more like bad subbing, with that one-line paragraph rather oddly inserted as a teaser for or summary of the very next paragraph.
Not for the first time, Carole has over-egged her pudding.