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CON leadership vote 3rd round of MPsGove 51Hunt 54Javid 38Johnson 143Stewart 27
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Seems odd he's lost MPs.
Faint. I did say faint. Faint hope.
Your little narrow band of extremists won't win a General Election. Just so you know.
However lots of 2017 Tories would have voted Brexit Party under a Stewart led Tory Party.
Rory has more chance of being the next Liberal PM than a Tory one
I think the job of Tory leader at present is even more of a poisoned chalice than 2016 and I can't foresee the next leader lasting more than a year*
*Unless something magical happens and the WDA does get approved before approximately the end of November
I suspect, however, that what did for him were the joke tweets he sent about Amess's 20-year Southend campaign and biscuits and so on. It is like Boris in 2016. You need to be seen to be taking the process seriously.
Seems improbable though. Some number of those now freed up will like Boris better than the rest, others will jump on a winner. We can dream though.
The Tories cannot allow - as they did once before by electing the charisma-vacuum May - the forces of populism to find their only electoral expression on the left. That's how Corbyn almost upended the country in GE2017.
And we can tell the tax cuts were gimmicks because Gove could not explain his new sales tax and Boris was rowing back on his tax cuts for the rich (and bribe for MPs) faster than Steve Redgrave.
Who is going to lead any kind of drive to compromise now?
The contest will be much duller with the telling questions Rory raised left unanswered. Will Javid now pull out ? .. if so the bun fight between Hunt and Gove will be ferocious.
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God help us. I liked his style, he was refreshing and direct. But he needs to toughen up if he wants to win, one day.
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Well, hopefully the eventual loser will be able to climb to 100 backers. 1/3 of the MPs will probably mirror what they get in the members vote.
He may as well join Umunna in the LDs if he really wants to be PM, there is little room for a pro EU, anti tax cut 2nd Tory Party
Just as a classic conservative believes that bakers bake and butchers make sausages in their own interest, not the public's, and yet both sides benefit from the exchange, so I think the fact that Boris' career will be on the line from the very beginning of his premiership should help to force out the best in him.
15 of those votes could disappear next time.
Wanting a deal has never been a problem with the Brexit process. Getting one through parliament is. Boris eventually backed the WA, but everyone now in the race says they can get a better one. If he, or they, cannot, they seem keener on no deal than returning to the deal that already exists.
Hunt could also point to his record as being an effective Health Secretary.
Effective that is for the purposes of the Conservative party, I'll let others decide how effective he was for health purposes.
17.4 million people voted for Brexit. Many of them would vote Tory if there were economic disruptions, provided that Brexit has been delivered. Few will vote Tory if we don’t.
The only thing that will utterly destroy the party is cancelling Brexit. If it doesn’t happen and someone else can be blamed, we will survive, but be out of power for a generation.
And also Boris is actually quite good at several things (and terrible at others). Importantly, he is a good hirer and delegator, he spots talent, he employs bright people, he's open to being persuaded - it's one of the reasons he was an effective London mayor. He knows how to put together a decent team - he's clearly done it for this campaign.
Teresa May did not have these skills and that's one reason she was a total disaster.
As for NI, if that went it would be much better for our taxes and resolve this whole problem neatly.
But they also knew that confronting the Tory Party with the "truth" wasn't actually the way to get to the right answer. The way was to win the leadership and steer it round using sleight of hand and the advantages a newly elected leader has and a discredited sitting PM lacks.
If the objective is to piss him off then they should all go to Gove.
Also bad things get forgotten sooner.
Yet that is what our next prime minister says they will do.
This HoC will block anything else.
He must be wondering who would he like to face in the hustings though. Must be a part of him that would love to see Gove get eviscerated by the members for f*cking up the past three years under May.....
It is the backstop that creates all the problems for the ERG so they can vote for Boris's WA with the cover story (which may even be true) that it will allow the development of technical solutions to the Irish border problem.
All he needs is a majority then he can tell the DUP to sod off and deliver it
The same problems will attach to him as PM, BUT in that job he will get to hire and fire the whole team, and run the whole show. It may just suit him better.
I am clearly whistling in the dark here, but when it is so dark, that's all you have left to do.
If Johnson is pulling strings then the question is if he lends votes to his favoured opponent in the final round, or pulls 'home' all the votes to himself to give himself the biggest mandate.
I think the latter is more sensible.
His rhetoric was often non-Conservative and at odds with his real position.
The media fawning can end now.
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PPS Don't forget the Summer Recess.
Can you explain why the Tory Party should pay such heed to people who have no intention of supporting it?
In all seriousness, while I have criticised parties for attempting to pretend unity, to claim a bigger tent of support than is reasonable or reflects reality, some really do go so far in the other direction, arbitrarily deciding certain strands of conservatism or labour are not really Tories or Labour after all, much to their own shock I am sure.
Surely you've discussed it with her many times ...