6pm is the deadline? I'm off the clock. The lovely Penny has derelicted her duty and left the field open for the sad, the mad and the bad. Who made it in time and who didn't?
Was it ever a difficult choice? I suppose for me it makes it less likely I will spoil my ballot, provided Hunt is the alternative. Francois is scum. The tragic embodiment of what the Tory Party has become.
Gove Eustace Morgan Hancock Green Crouch Harper Doyle-Price Double Hunt Fox Mcloughlin Javid Halfon Atkins Johnson Truss Wallace Leadsom Heaton-Harris Wheeler Mcvey Streeter Bradley Raab Davis Miller Stewart Gauke Prentis
Was it ever a difficult choice? I suppose for me it makes it less likely I will spoil my ballot, provided Hunt is the alternative. Francois is scum. The tragic embodiment of what the Tory Party has become.
Well said, although possibly rather insulting to scum everywhere
So, who will get the wooden spoon for the first ballot? I know nothing of Harper but he did well enough to get on the ballot, but maybe between him and Stewart? As surely Leadsom can get more than them given her previous showing, and McVey should be able to get some spartans in the first round.
Was it ever a difficult choice? I suppose for me it makes it less likely I will spoil my ballot, provided Hunt is the alternative. Francois is scum. The tragic embodiment of what the Tory Party has become.
Well said, although possibly rather insulting to scum everywhere
Can’t we tell Putin that Francois insulted his mother !
Mr. Borough, who'd be a politician? The pay is lower than for many other jobs, the media intensity is massive and usually unfair, and there's an off-chance a psycho with a knife, gun, or petrol bomb will deliberately target you.
I maintain that the media is the cause of much of the decline of politics, with a fixation on scalps, splits, and sensationalism, of personality over substance, and subjecting politicians to microscopic scrutiny whilst barely glancing at legislation.
Not exactly up there with the ones who could have replaced Wilson. Healey, Callaghan, Williams, Crosland, Castle etc etc.
Incredible how few big political beasts are around these days.
Hardly, 24 hour news and social media means who in their right minds wants to be a politician. There are far easier ways to make money and / or change the world.
Mr. Borough, who'd be a politician? The pay is lower than for many other jobs, the media intensity is massive and usually unfair, and there's an off-chance a psycho with a knife, gun, or petrol bomb will deliberately target you.
I maintain that the media is the cause of much of the decline of politics, with a fixation on scalps, splits, and sensationalism, of personality over substance, and subjecting politicians to microscopic scrutiny whilst barely glancing at legislation.
If I were an MP I'd vote for whoever I thought would get the lowest number of votes, in an attempt to keep the high number of candidates in place as long as possible.
Gove Eustace Morgan Hancock Green Crouch Harper Doyle-Price Double Hunt Fox Mcloughlin Javid Halfon Atkins Johnson Truss Wallace Leadsom Heaton-Harris Wheeler Mcvey Streeter Bradley Raab Davis Miller Stewart Gauke Prentis
If I were an MP I'd vote for whoever I thought would get the lowest number of votes, in an attempt to keep the high number of candidates in place as long as possible.
That's no good if the lowest doesn't meet the 5% threshold in round 1 or the 10% threshold in round 2.
Mr. Borough, who'd be a politician? The pay is lower than for many other jobs...
...but it's considerably greater than most other jobs, the expenses, pension and exit payoffs are much better, the performance criteria are damn nearly nonexistent, the entry qualifications are far lower, and you get to break the law with impunity.
Hang on Liz... higher rate is currently paid by about the top 10-12pc of earners, which would fall to about the top 5pc under Boris’s plan (based on ONS tables of earning centiles). If the suggestion is that earning over £50k is fairly average - especially *that much over* that a marginal increase in tax rates makes a big difference - Bojo and chums want to be very careful how that plays out among working class Brexit fans a long way from London.
If I were an MP I'd vote for whoever I thought would get the lowest number of votes, in an attempt to keep the high number of candidates in place as long as possible.
That's no good if the lowest doesn't meet the 5% threshold in round 1 or the 10% threshold in round 2.
Sure you cannot guarantee that, but you're giving them a shot at least, and it'd be funny for no one to be elimated in the first round.
It is not just 2008 and 2012 that Boris led successful campaigns.
He also successfully led 2016 too.
You mean when he was effectively working for Mr. Putin.
And effectively working against Cameron, Labour [officially], the IMF, most trade unions, most business lobbies, Obama and more.
Yet Boris won, defeating Cameron, Obama etc - that surely is more evidence that he can win than in one constituency a swing of 6.5 vs a swing of 6.2
We get it. There is a strong market for unicorns and it is entirely likely that unicorn demand has not diminished over the past n years. They are still unicorns, however. And no more attainable now than they have been in the past.
But if we're choosing I will go for a sugar pink and lime green one please.
Which Con MP is going to be first to defect to the LIbDems when Boris wins?
Greening
Greening could have more influence on the outcome by defecting before the contest starts. It would only take a few defections to confirm that the winner will not be PM.
Mr. Chris, ha, you make it sound like the infamous PT playable demo.
For those unaware, PT was a demo for a game that got axed (and has kind of come back as Death Stranding) whereby the player wanders through a house, and then finds himself returned to the beginning. That sounds very straightforward, but it frightened most who played it and absolutely terrified some people.
Little changes occur, which step by step make things horrifying.
It is to allow two days of hustings so MPs can find out which candidates are in favour of delivering Brexit, uniting the party and winning back voters.
Hang on Liz... higher rate is currently paid by about the top 10-12pc of earners, which would fall to about the top 5pc under Boris’s plan (based on ONS tables of earning centiles). If the suggestion is that earning over £50k is fairly average - especially *that much over* that a marginal increase in tax rates makes a big difference - Bojo and chums want to be very careful how that plays out among working class Brexit fans a long way from London.
Hang on Liz... higher rate is currently paid by about the top 10-12pc of earners, which would fall to about the top 5pc under Boris’s plan (based on ONS tables of earning centiles). If the suggestion is that earning over £50k is fairly average - especially *that much over* that a marginal increase in tax rates makes a big difference - Bojo and chums want to be very careful how that plays out among working class Brexit fans a long way from London.
Looking at that list I'm in the top 3% of earners - eek
I can see how it will be attractive to 9% of all voters but how many of them don't already vote Tory (or would have done before Brexit scared them to the Lib Dems).
It is to allow two days of hustings so MPs can find out which candidates are in favour of delivering Brexit, uniting the party and winning back voters.
Mad respect for any of them bold enough to say they don't want to do any of those things.
Hang on Liz... higher rate is currently paid by about the top 10-12pc of earners, which would fall to about the top 5pc under Boris’s plan (based on ONS tables of earning centiles). If the suggestion is that earning over £50k is fairly average - especially *that much over* that a marginal increase in tax rates makes a big difference - Bojo and chums want to be very careful how that plays out among working class Brexit fans a long way from London.
Looking at that list I'm in the top 3% of earners - eek
I can see how it will be attractive to 9% of all voters but how many of them don't already vote Tory (or would have done before Brexit scared them to the Lib Dems).
And that’s the thing. We’ve been conditioned to believe higher rate is a slightly aspirational but highly achievable “middle class” state of affairs. I’m hovering at the lower edge after 20+ years in relatively senior jobs, and I’d be pretty shocked if someone felt I should be taken out of that band by a margin of £30k.
Not really. You have an excellent chance of keeping it for decades and (omitting by-elections) you get to keep it for 4-5years. I change jobs every 4-8 years (it's the only way to get cross-training) and I get assessed every six months, so I'm not oversympathetic to those in secure employment where the only performance criterion is not to soil oneself.
Yes, cannabis is dangerous, but no more than other perfectly legal drugs. It's time for a rethink, and the Tory party - the funkiest, most jiving party on Earth - is where it's happening. - Boris, 2001.
Hang on Liz... higher rate is currently paid by about the top 10-12pc of earners, which would fall to about the top 5pc under Boris’s plan (based on ONS tables of earning centiles). If the suggestion is that earning over £50k is fairly average - especially *that much over* that a marginal increase in tax rates makes a big difference - Bojo and chums want to be very careful how that plays out among working class Brexit fans a long way from London.
Looking at that list I'm in the top 3% of earners - eek
I can see how it will be attractive to 9% of all voters but how many of them don't already vote Tory (or would have done before Brexit scared them to the Lib Dems).
The Brexit fans are not the immediate selectorate. But Brexiteers like rich becoming richer because they "deserve" it. Proof: look at the morons who voted Trump and still many of them will vote today.
It would not shock me if this were true, but is it wise to repost it here?
Would make a good scoop for The Evening Standard to expose any foibles in Boris's past. I wonder if the editor knows anything about Boris and if he would want to shaft his previous colleague. Surely not.
Would make sense to wait until Boris is almost through to the last 2 to cause maximum chaos/impact (delete to taste)
Just seen the charming gentleman at EMcV's event earlier - hard to imagine he's an extreme Brexit supporter, as he doesn't fit the stereotype of stupid, fat, ugly, ignorant, boorish dickwad in the slightest...
Hang on Liz... higher rate is currently paid by about the top 10-12pc of earners, which would fall to about the top 5pc under Boris’s plan (based on ONS tables of earning centiles). If the suggestion is that earning over £50k is fairly average - especially *that much over* that a marginal increase in tax rates makes a big difference - Bojo and chums want to be very careful how that plays out among working class Brexit fans a long way from London.
Looking at that list I'm in the top 3% of earners - eek
I can see how it will be attractive to 9% of all voters but how many of them don't already vote Tory (or would have done before Brexit scared them to the Lib Dems).
I am slumming it in the top 4% - which makes you a cosseted elitist while I am a down to earth man of the people.
It would not shock me if this were true, but is it wise to repost it here?
Would make a good scoop for The Evening Standard to expose any foibles in Boris's past. I wonder if the editor knows anything about Boris and if he would want to shaft his previous colleague. Surely not.
Would make sense to wait until Boris is almost through to the last 2 to cause maximum chaos/impact (delete to taste)
Why wait until he's almost through - if you have the ammo to destroy him do it when the option is him and A.N. Other...
Hang on Liz... higher rate is currently paid by about the top 10-12pc of earners, which would fall to about the top 5pc under Boris’s plan (based on ONS tables of earning centiles). If the suggestion is that earning over £50k is fairly average - especially *that much over* that a marginal increase in tax rates makes a big difference - Bojo and chums want to be very careful how that plays out among working class Brexit fans a long way from London.
Looking at that list I'm in the top 3% of earners - eek
I can see how it will be attractive to 9% of all voters but how many of them don't already vote Tory (or would have done before Brexit scared them to the Lib Dems).
I am slumming it in the top 4% - which makes you a cosseted elitist while I am a down to earth man of the people.
An engaged couple say their wedding plans have been scuppered by changes to next year's early May bank holiday.
May Day is traditionally held on a Monday, but will be put back to Friday, 8 May in 2020 to accommodate the 75th anniversary of VE Day.
But Simon Aherne and Anna Cousins, from Cardiff, say the lack of notice has left their plans in tatters as most guests will be unable to attend.
The UK government said it made the decision "as soon as practicable".
Mr Aherne, a teacher and part-time DJ, and PR professional Ms Cousins were due to get married at Kingscote Barn in Gloucestershire on Sunday, 3 May - the day before the traditional bank holiday Monday.
Hang on Liz... higher rate is currently paid by about the top 10-12pc of earners, which would fall to about the top 5pc under Boris’s plan (based on ONS tables of earning centiles). If the suggestion is that earning over £50k is fairly average - especially *that much over* that a marginal increase in tax rates makes a big difference - Bojo and chums want to be very careful how that plays out among working class Brexit fans a long way from London.
Looking at that list I'm in the top 3% of earners - eek
I can see how it will be attractive to 9% of all voters but how many of them don't already vote Tory (or would have done before Brexit scared them to the Lib Dems).
And that’s the thing. We’ve been conditioned to believe higher rate is a slightly aspirational but highly achievable “middle class” state of affairs. I’m hovering at the lower edge after 20+ years in relatively senior jobs, and I’d be pretty shocked if someone felt I should be taken out of that band by a margin of £30k.
It’s a consequence of politicians hanging around professionals in and around London, where jobs paying £40-50k elsewhere in the country can often be £70-80k. They think that a lot more people earn £70-80k than is actually the case.
A better policy would be something like an income tax break for seasonal transport tickets, there’s a lot of people having to earn something like £7k just to get to work given the 40% rate.
Hang on Liz... higher rate is currently paid by about the top 10-12pc of earners, which would fall to about the top 5pc under Boris’s plan (based on ONS tables of earning centiles). If the suggestion is that earning over £50k is fairly average - especially *that much over* that a marginal increase in tax rates makes a big difference - Bojo and chums want to be very careful how that plays out among working class Brexit fans a long way from London.
Looking at that list I'm in the top 3% of earners - eek
I can see how it will be attractive to 9% of all voters but how many of them don't already vote Tory (or would have done before Brexit scared them to the Lib Dems).
I am slumming it in the top 4% - which makes you a cosseted elitist while I am a down to earth man of the people.
23% here. Absolubte poverty by pb.com standards.
32%. Blimey, other people are much poorer than I realise!
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Harper Doyle-Price Double
Hunt Fox Mcloughlin
Javid Halfon Atkins
Johnson Truss Wallace
Leadsom Heaton-Harris Wheeler
Mcvey Streeter Bradley
Raab Davis Miller
Stewart Gauke Prentis
Wait, hang on...
Incredible how few big political beasts are around these days.
I maintain that the media is the cause of much of the decline of politics, with a fixation on scalps, splits, and sensationalism, of personality over substance, and subjecting politicians to microscopic scrutiny whilst barely glancing at legislation.
Can’t we just fast forward to the bit when the EU tell Bozo to get lost .
He is the man for our times!
But, she is a mother.
Everything the man does has is saturated with unintended comedy.
Dreadfully awful candidate ....
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1138117706379644933?s=20
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Gyimah all your Govin'
All your hugs and kisses too
Gyimah all your Govin'
Don't let up until we're through
Liberals there first with Thorpe .... Not a happy thought for the Hunt and Corbyn dogs !! ....
Mr. Chris, ha, you make it sound like the infamous PT playable demo.
For those unaware, PT was a demo for a game that got axed (and has kind of come back as Death Stranding) whereby the player wanders through a house, and then finds himself returned to the beginning. That sounds very straightforward, but it frightened most who played it and absolutely terrified some people.
Little changes occur, which step by step make things horrifying.
Anyway, I must be off. Be nice, everyone.
I can see how it will be attractive to 9% of all voters but how many of them don't already vote Tory (or would have done before Brexit scared them to the Lib Dems).
Might explain why Boris the coward has been hiding.
https://twitter.com/RealNatalieRowe/status/1137765119373578247
- Boris, 2001.
He’s likely to get a much easier ride because they’re hoping for a constant stream of drama to report on .
Would make sense to wait until Boris is almost through to the last 2 to cause maximum chaos/impact (delete to taste)
The crime would be to repeat the accusation in the the text you write yourself.
May Day is traditionally held on a Monday, but will be put back to Friday, 8 May in 2020 to accommodate the 75th anniversary of VE Day.
But Simon Aherne and Anna Cousins, from Cardiff, say the lack of notice has left their plans in tatters as most guests will be unable to attend.
The UK government said it made the decision "as soon as practicable".
Mr Aherne, a teacher and part-time DJ, and PR professional Ms Cousins were due to get married at Kingscote Barn in Gloucestershire on Sunday, 3 May - the day before the traditional bank holiday Monday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48575410
A better policy would be something like an income tax break for seasonal transport tickets, there’s a lot of people having to earn something like £7k just to get to work given the 40% rate.