I know teams, especially the midfield, are unhappy. Sponsorship dries up when audiences decline due to pay walls, and sponsor money goes to teams. But revenue from pay TV deals goes to the bigwigs who then distribute the largesse, which is better if you're a big team.
Mr. Anazina, F1 is only beaten in viewer numbers (or was a couple of years ago) by the Olympics and the football World Cup. The idea it's a minority sport is plain wrong.
I think the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix had about 8m viewers at one point.
I am peeved that I can't watch F1 live (I have no moral issue with paying for Sky to get F1; I've just got better things to do with my money).
Having said that, Liberty really have got their YouTube channel sorted. 10-12 short videos from each race including qualy and race highlights, press conferences, some analysis and others, posted 12 or so hours afterwards. They're very good catch-up, and include regular 'history' items.
It's all much better than when Bernie was in charge (at least as far as I remember).
For instance, the Canadian GP highlights were posted 16 hours ago, and have had 1 million views. The Monaco GP highlights have had 3.3 million views. They're worldwide figures, but still much better than the vacuum that was there before.
The only candidate who has made an issue of Gove's old coke use is Sajid Javid, and he's always had a strong message about middle class drug use. The only other candidate who has 'gone large' on this in the past is Gove himself, which is why he's in trouble now.
This is very naïve. Boris Johnson being a bad boy is priced into the market. No one would believe him if he denied taking cocaine. He'd get more derision for that. And no one who likes him cares very much. He could probably snort a line of cocaine at his campaign launch and get away with it.
Michael Gove taking cocaine is eye-popping, akin to that moment when Edwina Currie revealed her benighted game of consequences with John Major, something that completely changes your perception of the individual. Michael Gove's USP is as the school swot. To find out that he's on PEDs is a Lance Armstrong moment.
And in much the same way as he's "Boris" to everyone, there's no question of him being described as a serial adulterer or a drug addict - he's a "bad boy".
Bad as in naughty? Bad as in evil? Or bad as in incompetent?
The only candidate who has made an issue of Gove's old coke use is Sajid Javid, and he's always had a strong message about middle class drug use. The only other candidate who has 'gone large' on this in the past is Gove himself, which is why he's in trouble now.
I do wonder what he has got on Boris though, or Mr. Johnson as he now refers to him, and whetherwe are about to find out! I do hope so!
I know teams, especially the midfield, are unhappy. Sponsorship dries up when audiences decline due to pay walls, and sponsor money goes to teams. But revenue from pay TV deals goes to the bigwigs who then distribute the largesse, which is better if you're a big team.
Mr. Anazina, F1 is only beaten in viewer numbers (or was a couple of years ago) by the Olympics and the football World Cup. The idea it's a minority sport is plain wrong.
I think the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix had about 8m viewers at one point.
I am peeved that I can't watch F1 live (I have no moral issue with paying for Sky to get F1; I've just got better things to do with my money).
Having said that, Liberty really have got their YouTube channel sorted. 10-12 short videos from each race including qualy and race highlights, press conferences, some analysis and others, posted 12 or so hours afterwards. They're very good catch-up, and include regular 'history' items.
It's all much better than when Bernie was in charge (at least as far as I remember).
For instance, the Canadian GP highlights were posted 16 hours ago, and have had 1 million views. The Monaco GP highlights have had 3.3 million views. They're worldwide figures, but still much better than the vacuum that was there before.
I find it remarkable that people who are sports fans don't pay the fee for Sky. It's really not very much given the sheer volume of sport you get. I'm not an agent for Sky but the monthly cost really isn't huge: indeed it's quite good value!
I know teams, especially the midfield, are unhappy. Sponsorship dries up when audiences decline due to pay walls, and sponsor money goes to teams. But revenue from pay TV deals goes to the bigwigs who then distribute the largesse, which is better if you're a big team.
Mr. Anazina, F1 is only beaten in viewer numbers (or was a couple of years ago) by the Olympics and the football World Cup. The idea it's a minority sport is plain wrong.
I think the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix had about 8m viewers at one point.
I am peeved that I can't watch F1 live (I have no moral issue with paying for Sky to get F1; I've just got better things to do with my money).
Having said that, Liberty really have got their YouTube channel sorted. 10-12 short videos from each race including qualy and race highlights, press conferences, some analysis and others, posted 12 or so hours afterwards. They're very good catch-up, and include regular 'history' items.
It's all much better than when Bernie was in charge (at least as far as I remember).
For instance, the Canadian GP highlights were posted 16 hours ago, and have had 1 million views. The Monaco GP highlights have had 3.3 million views. They're worldwide figures, but still much better than the vacuum that was there before.
I find it remarkable that people who are sports fans don't pay the fee for Sky. It's really not very much given the sheer volume of sport you get. I'm not an agent for Sky but the monthly cost really isn't huge: indeed it's quite good value!
It depends if you like sport or if you just like F1. And I suspect there are a lot of F1 fans who don't like or watch any other sports (I really only watch F1 and Tennis and Sky don't do Tennis anymore)...
"He could probably snort a line of cocaine at his campaign launch and get away with it." is a great line.
You could probably add "while shagging his mistress"
Mind bleach.
Sorry about that one!
Looking at Boris's rotundness though, I am surprised one of his many lovers has not said of him as one of Nicolas Soames's lovers said " making love to himwas a little like having a wardrobe fall on you with the key left out"
Mr. Anazina, I agree, but all save one of those are free-to-air, and the one that isn't (Premier League) is the top tier of the national sport.
Globally, F1 has (or had, at least) an audience of 300-330m or so.
Cricket World Cup 1.5bn worldwide.
F1 is not a minority pursuit – it's just far, far less popular globally than cricket and football – the Big Two in spectator numbers worldwide and – which have all have been all but abandoned by the BBC.
Were all the Bruges group present at Mcvey's launch ? She might do surprisingly well on the upside in the first vote. I have no idea who is in the Bruges group (Is it ERG concentrate ?)
It was a forerunner to the ERG. It was named after a speech made by Mrs T in which she said "We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level". What the morons that make up the ERG don't realise is that she never advocated leaving the EU. The single market was her legacy. Theyhave trashed it.
According to her official biographer Charles Moore, whilst she followed advice not to say it in public, she did indeed advocate leaving the EU as early as 1992. She apparently considered the Maastricht Treaty to be the last straw. So the claim that she would think her legacy had been trashed appears wide of the mark.
I know teams, especially the midfield, are unhappy. Sponsorship dries up when audiences decline due to pay walls, and sponsor money goes to teams. But revenue from pay TV deals goes to the bigwigs who then distribute the largesse, which is better if you're a big team.
Mr. Anazina, F1 is only beaten in viewer numbers (or was a couple of years ago) by the Olympics and the football World Cup. The idea it's a minority sport is plain wrong.
I think the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix had about 8m viewers at one point.
I am peeved that I can't watch F1 live (I have no moral issue with paying for Sky to get F1; I've just got better things to do with my money).
Having said that, Liberty really have got their YouTube channel sorted. 10-12 short videos from each race including qualy and race highlights, press conferences, some analysis and others, posted 12 or so hours afterwards. They're very good catch-up, and include regular 'history' items.
It's all much better than when Bernie was in charge (at least as far as I remember).
For instance, the Canadian GP highlights were posted 16 hours ago, and have had 1 million views. The Monaco GP highlights have had 3.3 million views. They're worldwide figures, but still much better than the vacuum that was there before.
I find it remarkable that people who are sports fans don't pay the fee for Sky. It's really not very much given the sheer volume of sport you get. I'm not an agent for Sky but the monthly cost really isn't huge: indeed it's quite good value!
It depends if you like sport or if you just like F1. And I suspect there are a lot of F1 fans who don't like or watch any other sports (I really only watch F1 and Tennis and Sky don't do Tennis anymore)...
Kind of proves my point that F1 isn't really a sport in the conventional sense as it's more about the technology than the racing element – hence why it appeals chiefly to car nerds (nothing wrong with that) but it's why many F1 fans have no discernible interest in sports that are powered by human athleticism.
I know teams, especially the midfield, are unhappy. Sponsorship dries up when audiences decline due to pay walls, and sponsor money goes to teams. But revenue from pay TV deals goes to the bigwigs who then distribute the largesse, which is better if you're a big team.
Mr. Anazina, F1 is only beaten in viewer numbers (or was a couple of years ago) by the Olympics and the football World Cup. The idea it's a minority sport is plain wrong.
I think the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix had about 8m viewers at one point.
I am peeved that I can't watch F1 live (I have no moral issue with paying for Sky to get F1; I've just got better things to do with my money).
Having said that, Liberty really have got their YouTube channel sorted. 10-12 short videos from each race including qualy and race highlights, press conferences, some analysis and others, posted 12 or so hours afterwards. They're very good catch-up, and include regular 'history' items.
It's all much better than when Bernie was in charge (at least as far as I remember).
For instance, the Canadian GP highlights were posted 16 hours ago, and have had 1 million views. The Monaco GP highlights have had 3.3 million views. They're worldwide figures, but still much better than the vacuum that was there before.
I find it remarkable that people who are sports fans don't pay the fee for Sky. It's really not very much given the sheer volume of sport you get. I'm not an agent for Sky but the monthly cost really isn't huge: indeed it's quite good value!
I'm only interested in motorsport, and have limited time for TV. If Sky had (say) F1, rallying, BTCC, DTM and others it may be worth it. But I'm not particularly interested in watching other sports, and don't want to end up subsidising football. £18 per month *is* a lot of money. I could afford it, but I can't justify it.
I've watched F1 since the late 1970s (when it was first regularly broadcast on TV), so it's a shame, but I have more free time at weekends now.
I have a memory, probably from a decade ago, of polling showing that Boris could bring a significant number of new voters to the Tories BUT that these were highly concentrated in the South & that as you went North it balanced out and then became net losses in the NE and Scotland.
Ie more votes but not nearly as positive in seats
Does anyone else recall this? Or did I make it up in a fevered dream at some point?
Hmm. Now I'm wondering about this (not disputing your figure just wondering on the basis of the F1 comparison, which I have a vague memory was from an official source so is unlikely to be exaggerated but there are different ways of putting together audience numbers).
Edited extra bit: " The 2008 season attracted a global audience of 600 million people per race.[132] It is a massive television event; the cumulative television audience was calculated to be 54 billion for the 2001 season, broadcast to 200 territories.[133]"
I know teams, especially the midfield, are unhappy. Sponsorship dries up when audiences decline due to pay walls, and sponsor money goes to teams. But revenue from pay TV deals goes to the bigwigs who then distribute the largesse, which is better if you're a big team.
Mr. Anazina, F1 is only beaten in viewer numbers (or was a couple of years ago) by the Olympics and the football World Cup. The idea it's a minority sport is plain wrong.
I think the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix had about 8m viewers at one point.
I am peeved that I can't watch F1 live (I have no moral issue with paying for Sky to get F1; I've just got better things to do with my money).
Having said that, Liberty really have got their YouTube channel sorted. 10-12 short videos from each race including qualy and race highlights, press conferences, some analysis and others, posted 12 or so hours afterwards. They're very good catch-up, and include regular 'history' items.
It's all much better than when Bernie was in charge (at least as far as I remember).
For instance, the Canadian GP highlights were posted 16 hours ago, and have had 1 million views. The Monaco GP highlights have had 3.3 million views. They're worldwide figures, but still much better than the vacuum that was there before.
I find it remarkable that people who are sports fans don't pay the fee for Sky. It's really not very much given the sheer volume of sport you get. I'm not an agent for Sky but the monthly cost really isn't huge: indeed it's quite good value!
I would agree, but don't forget that to get Sky Sports you need the basic Sky entertainment package so that adds another £20 a month on, and I doubt many will justify that extra amount if they don't watch TV as broadcast any more.
Were all the Bruges group present at Mcvey's launch ? She might do surprisingly well on the upside in the first vote. I have no idea who is in the Bruges group (Is it ERG concentrate ?)
It was a forerunner to the ERG. It was named after a speech made by Mrs T in which she said "We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level". What the morons that make up the ERG don't realise is that she never advocated leaving the EU. The single market was her legacy. Theyhave trashed it.
According to her official biographer Charles Moore, whilst she followed advice not to say it in public, she did indeed advocate leaving the EU as early as 1992. She apparently considered the Maastricht Treaty to be the last straw. So then claim that she would think her legacy had been trashed appears wide of the mark.
Which side of the debate is Charles Moore on...? The truth is she never said it in public. That is all we know.
I liked the SNP's original compromise of leaving the EU but remaining in the Single market. It sounded daft at the time but the implied Norway solution would have got us out of the current quagmire we're in now.
Hmm. Now I'm wondering about this (not disputing your figure just wondering on the basis of the F1 comparison, which I have a vague memory was from an official source so is unlikely to be exaggerated but there are different ways of putting together audience numbers).
1.5bn for the whole competition – however, you will find that cricket and football generally are the biggest sports by TV viewership globally, by quite a long chalk.
Kind of proves my point that F1 isn't really a sport in the conventional sense as it's more about the technology than the racing element – hence why it appeals chiefly to car nerds (nothing wrong with that) but it's why many F1 fans have no discernible interest in sports that are powered by human athleticism.
I became a lot happier about F1 the moment I realised it isn't a sport: it's a business, and the business always has a higher priority than the sport.
Once you understand that, it's much easier to be an F1 fan.
TBF, a BTCC weekend broadcast on ITV4 often has more racing in 6 hours than F1 gives you in half a season.
Mr. Anazina, in case you missed it, I added an edited extra to that post, which I'll reproduce here:
Edited extra bit: " The 2008 season attracted a global audience of 600 million people per race.[132] It is a massive television event; the cumulative television audience was calculated to be 54 billion for the 2001 season, broadcast to 200 territories.[133]"
I have a memory, probably from a decade ago, of polling showing that Boris could bring a significant number of new voters to the Tories BUT that these were highly concentrated in the South & that as you went North it balanced out and then became net losses in the NE and Scotland....
A decade ago, David Cameron was a promising potential PM...
I know teams, especially the midfield, are unhappy. Sponsorship dries up when audiences decline due to pay walls, and sponsor money goes to teams. But revenue from pay TV deals goes to the bigwigs who then distribute the largesse, which is better if you're a big team.
Mr. Anazina, F1 is only beaten in viewer numbers (or was a couple of years ago) by the Olympics and the football World Cup. The idea it's a minority sport is plain wrong.
I think the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix had about 8m viewers at one point.
I am peeved that I can't watch F1 live (I have no moral issue with paying for Sky to get F1; I've just got better things to do with my money).
Having said that, Liberty really have got their YouTube channel sorted. 10-12 short videos from each race including qualy and race highlights, press conferences, some analysis and others, posted 12 or so hours afterwards. They're very good catch-up, and include regular 'history' items.
It's all much better than when Bernie was in charge (at least as far as I remember).
For instance, the Canadian GP highlights were posted 16 hours ago, and have had 1 million views. The Monaco GP highlights have had 3.3 million views. They're worldwide figures, but still much better than the vacuum that was there before.
I find it remarkable that people who are sports fans don't pay the fee for Sky. It's really not very much given the sheer volume of sport you get. I'm not an agent for Sky but the monthly cost really isn't huge: indeed it's quite good value!
I'm only interested in motorsport, and have limited time for TV. If Sky had (say) F1, rallying, BTCC, DTM and others it may be worth it. But I'm not particularly interested in watching other sports, and don't want to end up subsidising football. £18 per month *is* a lot of money. I could afford it, but I can't justify it.
I've watched F1 since the late 1970s (when it was first regularly broadcast on TV), so it's a shame, but I have more free time at weekends now.
Ah see above – F1 is a niche interest. Not a conventional sport as it's more about the tech than human athletes.
This is very naïve. Boris Johnson being a bad boy is priced into the market. No one would believe him if he denied taking cocaine. He'd get more derision for that. And no one who likes him cares very much. He could probably snort a line of cocaine at his campaign launch and get away with it.
Michael Gove taking cocaine is eye-popping, akin to that moment when Edwina Currie revealed her benighted game of consequences with John Major, something that completely changes your perception of the individual. Michael Gove's USP is as the school swot. To find out that he's on PEDs is a Lance Armstrong moment.
And in much the same way as he's "Boris" to everyone, there's no question of him being described as a serial adulterer or a drug addict - he's a "bad boy".
Bad as in naughty? Bad as in evil? Or bad as in incompetent?
Perhaps the only kind of revelation that would really damage him is one that made him appear an "evil man" rather than a "bad boy"?
I liked the SNP's original compromise of leaving the EU but remaining in the Single market. It sounded daft at the time but the implied Norway solution would have got us out of the current quagmire we're in now.
This was May’s first, fatal error: she rejected the outstretched hands of other parties. At that point she was genuinely committed to using the No Deal threat. It was only when Ruth pointed out that that would break the Union that she backtracked.
I know teams, especially the midfield, are unhappy. Sponsorship dries up when audiences decline due to pay walls, and sponsor money goes to teams. But revenue from pay TV deals goes to the bigwigs who then distribute the largesse, which is better if you're a big team.
Mr. Anazina, F1 is only beaten in viewer numbers (or was a couple of years ago) by the Olympics and the football World Cup. The idea it's a minority sport is plain wrong.
I think the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix had about 8m viewers at one point.
I am peeved that I can't watch F1 live (I have no moral issue with paying for Sky to get F1; I've just got better things to do with my money).
Having said that, Liberty really have got their YouTube channel sorted. 10-12 short videos from each race including qualy and race highlights, press conferences, some analysis and others, posted 12 or so hours afterwards. They're very good catch-up, and include regular 'history' items.
It's all much better than when Bernie was in charge (at least as far as I remember).
For instance, the Canadian GP highlights were posted 16 hours ago, and have had 1 million views. The Monaco GP highlights have had 3.3 million views. They're worldwide figures, but still much better than the vacuum that was there before.
Yes, their online offering is now excellent. F1 have also, in recent weeks, had restored all the user-uploaded videos that Bernie blocked from YouTube for copyright reasons - going back years. There’s dozens of whole races to watch now, lots of incident analysis with footage and even some quirky videos like Lewis Hamilton’s entire 90-minute British GP from his car camera with team audio. I’d suggest it’s bringing literally millions of young fans to the sport.
Were all the Bruges group present at Mcvey's launch ? She might do surprisingly well on the upside in the first vote. I have no idea who is in the Bruges group (Is it ERG concentrate ?)
It was a forerunner to the ERG. It was named after a speech made by Mrs T in which she said "We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level". What the morons that make up the ERG don't realise is that she never advocated leaving the EU. The single market was her legacy. Theyhave trashed it.
According to her official biographer Charles Moore, whilst she followed advice not to say it in public, she did indeed advocate leaving the EU as early as 1992. She apparently considered the Maastricht Treaty to be the last straw. So then claim that she would think her legacy had been trashed appears wide of the mark.
Which side of the debate is Charles Moore on...? The truth is she never said it in public. That is all we know.
Given this was said back in 2013 long before there was any chance of Brexit and that it is backed up by some of the comments in her own autobiography I suspect you are rather desperately trying to shoot the messenger. Besides, what does it matter? She was another politician who is known to have been Eurosceptic and who did not agree with the direction the EU was going. A direct quote from her was that the EU needed the UK more than we needed them. A view shared by many in your party.
This is very naïve. Boris Johnson being a bad boy is priced into the market. No one would believe him if he denied taking cocaine. He'd get more derision for that. And no one who likes him cares very much. He could probably snort a line of cocaine at his campaign launch and get away with it.
Michael Gove taking cocaine is eye-popping, akin to that moment when Edwina Currie revealed her benighted game of consequences with John Major, something that completely changes your perception of the individual. Michael Gove's USP is as the school swot. To find out that he's on PEDs is a Lance Armstrong moment.
And in much the same way as he's "Boris" to everyone, there's no question of him being described as a serial adulterer or a drug addict - he's a "bad boy".
Bad as in naughty? Bad as in evil? Or bad as in incompetent?
Perhaps the only kind of revelation that would really damage him is one that made him appear an "evil man" rather than a "bad boy"?
Serial adulterer, liar, possible racist, charlatan, incompetent, suchthings are not obstacles to high office any more, here or in the US. I am all for being progressive, but FFS people, can't we find someone better than him?
I have a memory, probably from a decade ago, of polling showing that Boris could bring a significant number of new voters to the Tories BUT that these were highly concentrated in the South & that as you went North it balanced out and then became net losses in the NE and Scotland.
Ie more votes but not nearly as positive in seats
Does anyone else recall this? Or did I make it up in a fevered dream at some point?
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
On that thought, I should probably bugger off for a few months. Looking forward to still being an EU citizen on 1 Nov.
I have a memory, probably from a decade ago, of polling showing that Boris could bring a significant number of new voters to the Tories BUT that these were highly concentrated in the South & that as you went North it balanced out and then became net losses in the NE and Scotland.
Ie more votes but not nearly as positive in seats
Does anyone else recall this? Or did I make it up in a fevered dream at some point?
I suspect that whether it was true or not, the massive changes in polling since then probably render it horribly out of date.
Mr. Anazina, in case you missed it, I added an edited extra to that post, which I'll reproduce here:
Edited extra bit: " The 2008 season attracted a global audience of 600 million people per race.[132] It is a massive television event; the cumulative television audience was calculated to be 54 billion for the 2001 season, broadcast to 200 territories.[133]"
Looks like fake news – it seems that the figure relates to people who tuned into a race at some point in the season (not per race according to this source).
F1 makes the top ten, but not the top five, in terms of popularity globally.
Were all the Bruges group present at Mcvey's launch ? She might do surprisingly well on the upside in the first vote. I have no idea who is in the Bruges group (Is it ERG concentrate ?)
It was a forerunner to the ERG. It was named after a speech made by Mrs T in which she said "We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level". What the morons that make up the ERG don't realise is that she never advocated leaving the EU. The single market was her legacy. Theyhave trashed it.
According to her official biographer Charles Moore, whilst she followed advice not to say it in public, she did indeed advocate leaving the EU as early as 1992. She apparently considered the Maastricht Treaty to be the last straw. So then claim that she would think her legacy had been trashed appears wide of the mark.
Which side of the debate is Charles Moore on...? The truth is she never said it in public. That is all we know.
Given this was said back in 2013 long before there was any chance of Brexit and that it is backed up by some of the comments in her own autobiography I suspect you are rather desperately trying to shoot the messenger. Besides, what does it matter? She was another politician who is known to have been Eurosceptic and who did not agree with the direction the EU was going. A direct quote from her was that the EU needed the UK more than we needed them. A view shared by many in your party.
Fair comment, but the context needs to be investigated, and her world view needs to be contrasted with the pigmies that now advocate Brexit. her views on Europe were sceptical, that is for sure, but she, like most Tories of her generation saw it as an opportunity. I can'tremember the direct quotes from her biography, but that was my take on it when I read it.
This is very naïve. Boris Johnson being a bad boy is priced into the market. No one would believe him if he denied taking cocaine. He'd get more derision for that. And no one who likes him cares very much. He could probably snort a line of cocaine at his campaign launch and get away with it.
Michael Gove taking cocaine is eye-popping, akin to that moment when Edwina Currie revealed her benighted game of consequences with John Major, something that completely changes your perception of the individual. Michael Gove's USP is as the school swot. To find out that he's on PEDs is a Lance Armstrong moment.
And in much the same way as he's "Boris" to everyone, there's no question of him being described as a serial adulterer or a drug addict - he's a "bad boy".
Bad as in naughty? Bad as in evil? Or bad as in incompetent?
Perhaps the only kind of revelation that would really damage him is one that made him appear an "evil man" rather than a "bad boy"?
Serial adulterer, liar, possible racist, charlatan, incompetent, suchthings are not obstacles to high office any more, here or in the US. I am all for being progressive, but FFS people, can't we find someone better than him?
Sadly most of those have been true for decades if not centuries. There are plenty of honourable exceptions but also plenty of bad examples.
I have a memory, probably from a decade ago, of polling showing that Boris could bring a significant number of new voters to the Tories BUT that these were highly concentrated in the South & that as you went North it balanced out and then became net losses in the NE and Scotland.
Ie more votes but not nearly as positive in seats
Does anyone else recall this? Or did I make it up in a fevered dream at some point?
I suspect that whether it was true or not, the massive changes in polling since then probably render it horribly out of date.
He's surely more voter-repellent in London and the SE now, than then. Whether the appeal of the unscrupulous windbag has risen up north to compensate, I cannot say.
Mr. Anazina, in case you missed it, I added an edited extra to that post, which I'll reproduce here:
Edited extra bit: " The 2008 season attracted a global audience of 600 million people per race.[132] It is a massive television event; the cumulative television audience was calculated to be 54 billion for the 2001 season, broadcast to 200 territories.[133]"
Looks like fake news – it seems that the figure relates to people who tuned into a race at some point in the season (not per race according to this source).
F1 makes the top ten, but not the top five, in terms of popularity globally.
Isn't that the fault of the Scots having a half hearted devolution system rather than proper independence. Another good reason to let them go their own way so they can make their own decisions about tax and let England do likewise.
Unfortunately the soul of the Tory Party has been corrupted, just like the Labour Party. The extremists and nutjobs are in the ascendancy. Nothing good will come of it.
You've covered Esther McVey – but what about that fat bloke with the microphone?
Well done Esther McVey (not a phrase I thought I would see myself write). No matter the circumstances it must be unnerving to have a fat twat clamber on stage shouting the odds.
Somebody should have removed him by the breeks arse
You'd have to have a heart of stone not to enjoy watching Boris and Govey stabbing each other in the back. Though Gove is the most wounded I've got a feeling he and his formidable wife with deliver the coup de grace. You don't work for the Mail for twenty years without being the very best in character assassination
Andrea Leadsom MP ✔ @andrealeadsom Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
Isn't that the fault of the Scots having a half hearted devolution system rather than proper independence. Another good reason to let them go their own way so they can make their own decisions about tax and let England do likewise.
How can a Boris thought be the fault of the Scots? If Boris wants to be PM of England let him make the case for that, if he wants to be PM of the UK he needs to think about all parts of the country he wants to lead.
It is just another example of what we would get, he will say what he thinks his audience would like to hear, without a care for detail, practicality or even consistency from day to day.
Andrea Leadsom MP ✔ @andrealeadsom Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
Andrea Leadsom MP ✔ @andrealeadsom Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
Oh, piss off Andrea.
when she hands in 63 names you will have to eat your words
Andrea Leadsom MP ✔ @andrealeadsom Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
Isn't that the fault of the Scots having a half hearted devolution system rather than proper independence. Another good reason to let them go their own way so they can make their own decisions about tax and let England do likewise.
How can a Boris thought be the fault of the Scots? If Boris wants to be PM of England let him make the case for that, if he wants to be PM of the UK he needs to think about all parts of the country he wants to lead.
It is just another example of what we would get, he will say what he thinks his audience would like to hear, without a care for detail, practicality or even consistency from day to day.
He will act as PM of England for certain, the man is a balloon.
Andrea Leadsom MP ✔ @andrealeadsom Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
Oh, piss off Andrea.
Somewhat lacking in chivalry. Though I too would have been content to see her price fly out to 1000.
Andrea Leadsom MP ✔ @andrealeadsom Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
Oh, piss off Andrea.
I said she was the dark horse in this contest. Slipping in at the last minute.
If a couple of the cokeheads fall at one of the hurdles, then anything can happen.
Isn't that the fault of the Scots having a half hearted devolution system rather than proper independence. Another good reason to let them go their own way so they can make their own decisions about tax and let England do likewise.
How can a Boris thought be the fault of the Scots? If Boris wants to be PM of England let him make the case for that, if he wants to be PM of the UK he needs to think about all parts of the country he wants to lead.
It is just another example of what we would get, he will say what he thinks his audience would like to hear, without a care for detail, practicality or even consistency from day to day.
I am no advocate for Boris but it is clear that any Prime Minister should be considering what would be best for the majority of people they are legislating for and should not be held hostage by a small minority in one region.
At the same time it is also clear that Scotland should be able to decide its own tax and spend policies for its own people which is why they should have independence.
It is not just 2008 and 2012 that Boris led successful campaigns.
He also successfully led 2016 too.
You mean when he was effectively working for Mr. Putin.
And effectively working against Cameron, Labour [officially], the IMF, most trade unions, most business lobbies, Obama and more.
Yet Boris won, defeating Cameron, Obama etc - that surely is more evidence that he can win than in one constituency a swing of 6.5 vs a swing of 6.2
We get it. There is a strong market for unicorns and it is entirely likely that unicorn demand has not diminished over the past n years. They are still unicorns, however. And no more attainable now than they have been in the past.
But if we're choosing I will go for a sugar pink and lime green one please.
Andrea Leadsom MP ✔ @andrealeadsom Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
Oh, piss off Andrea.
Somewhat lacking in chivalry. Though I too would have been content to see her price fly out to 1000.
Andrea Leadsom MP ✔ @andrealeadsom Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
Oh, piss off Andrea.
I said she was the dark horse in this contest. Slipping in at the last minute.
If a couple of the cokeheads fall at one of the hurdles, then anything can happen.
If the contest becomes about drug use how does Mary Jane Leadsom benefit ?
Andrea Leadsom MP ✔ @andrealeadsom Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
Oh, piss off Andrea.
when she hands in 63 names you will have to eat your words
"When" ?
That would require a degree of conspiratorial competence, superb organisational skills, discretion and guile that have hitherto escaped 95% of Tory MPs.
Isn't that the fault of the Scots having a half hearted devolution system rather than proper independence. Another good reason to let them go their own way so they can make their own decisions about tax and let England do likewise.
I love the rather naïve way Rory Stewart says "is it possible Boris hasn't thought this through". Perhaps he was being ironic. A more accurate statement is "It is impossible that Boris has thought this (or anything else) through"
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Having said that, Liberty really have got their YouTube channel sorted. 10-12 short videos from each race including qualy and race highlights, press conferences, some analysis and others, posted 12 or so hours afterwards. They're very good catch-up, and include regular 'history' items.
It's all much better than when Bernie was in charge (at least as far as I remember).
For instance, the Canadian GP highlights were posted 16 hours ago, and have had 1 million views. The Monaco GP highlights have had 3.3 million views. They're worldwide figures, but still much better than the vacuum that was there before.
Globally, F1 has (or had, at least) an audience of 300-330m or so.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.125574963
F1 is not a minority pursuit – it's just far, far less popular globally than cricket and football – the Big Two in spectator numbers worldwide and – which have all have been all but abandoned by the BBC.
Only the SNP, LDs, Plaid and Grn have clean hands.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38833883
I've watched F1 since the late 1970s (when it was first regularly broadcast on TV), so it's a shame, but I have more free time at weekends now.
Ie more votes but not nearly as positive in seats
Does anyone else recall this? Or did I make it up in a fevered dream at some point?
Hmm. Now I'm wondering about this (not disputing your figure just wondering on the basis of the F1 comparison, which I have a vague memory was from an official source so is unlikely to be exaggerated but there are different ways of putting together audience numbers).
Edited extra bit: " The 2008 season attracted a global audience of 600 million people per race.[132] It is a massive television event; the cumulative television audience was calculated to be 54 billion for the 2001 season, broadcast to 200 territories.[133]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One#Media_coverage
Once you understand that, it's much easier to be an F1 fan.
TBF, a BTCC weekend broadcast on ITV4 often has more racing in 6 hours than F1 gives you in half a season.
Edited extra bit: " The 2008 season attracted a global audience of 600 million people per race.[132] It is a massive television event; the cumulative television audience was calculated to be 54 billion for the 2001 season, broadcast to 200 territories.[133]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One#Media_coverage
I presume she has the numbers??
It was until 1985, when their first ever narcotics legislation was commenced.
On that thought, I should probably bugger off for a few months. Looking forward to still being an EU citizen on 1 Nov.
F1 makes the top ten, but not the top five, in terms of popularity globally.
https://www.totalsportek.com/most-popular-sports/
There are plenty of honourable exceptions but also plenty of bad examples.
This is the sort of thing our license fee should be paying for.....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-48580157
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Just handed in my nomination papers - thanks so much to all those supporting! Looking forward to the campaign launch 9.45am tomorrow
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It is just another example of what we would get, he will say what he thinks his audience would like to hear, without a care for detail, practicality or even consistency from day to day.
I only go to the poor house if Loathsome wins.
If a couple of the cokeheads fall at one of the hurdles, then anything can happen.
At the same time it is also clear that Scotland should be able to decide its own tax and spend policies for its own people which is why they should have independence.
That would require a degree of conspiratorial competence, superb organisational skills, discretion and guile that have hitherto escaped 95% of Tory MPs.