They’re Russian poodles and are doing Putin’s bidding .
If he was intending to convince anyone not already in agreement with him, then it wasn’t well said at all. ‘Traitor’ is a term which ought to be used only in its strict legal context. As a political insult it is divisive and counterproductive.
I don't think anybody is expecting or even trying to convince anyone at this stage. The country is dividing itself into two distinct cultural factions both of which actively fucking despise each other.
This is highly disruptive for the establishment as these two strands of opinion demonstrate little congruence with the party political system or, even more alarmingly, the social caste system.
Meanwhile .... Following continuing humiliation from Europe, the Prime Minister intends to make "a big bold offer" to the House of Commons. The UK will BREXIT the Eurovision from next year after last nights indicative votes that we are shite.
On hearing this news Boris Johnson slipped on a high-wire and shouted "Boom Bang-A-Bang" as he crossed the Thames.
Jeremy Corbyn indicated that Labour would set 392 tests and then attempt to be "All Kinds of Everything" to everyone.
Nigel Farage speaking at a rally in Nuremberg said Eurovision had finally met its "Waterloo" and Britain would no longer be "A Puppet On String", whilst Farage ally Donald Trump ripped off a White House interns dress and sang "Save All Your Kisses For Me".
Uncle Vince Cable rose from his bath chair whilst campaigning in Bedford and intoned the yellow peril will "Rise Like A Phoenix" and then hugged local LibDem bigwig Mike Smithson and cried out "Love Shine A Light".
Back in Downing Street Theresa May smiled and whispered "What's Another Year" for me as Prime Minister .....
A quite predictable (and indeed much predicted) flip. A lot of people talk a good game about disliking a leader/prospective leader or the direction of the party, but at the end of the day the tribe is the tribe, and excuses will be made. Whatever the other factors behind their choice, I respect the CUkers for standing up to be counted about their former tribes/leaders going too far for them.
They’re Russian poodles and are doing Putin’s bidding .
If he was intending to convince anyone not already in agreement with him, then it wasn’t well said at all. ‘Traitor’ is a term which ought to be used only in its strict legal context. As a political insult it is divisive and counterproductive.
I don't think anybody is expecting or even trying to convince anyone at this stage. The country is dividing itself into two distinct cultural factions both of which actively fucking despise each other.
This is highly disruptive for the establishment as these two strands of opinion demonstrate little congruence with the party political system or, even more alarmingly, the social caste system.
Seeing as the conservatives are in power (The average person on the street cares not for the lack of the size of their majority to be effective) and their voters are mainly in the 'right/brexit' area of the culture war, not delivering on Brexit is going to hit them worse than any recession that may have come about from delivering it...
This might be a stupid bet, but imho if Labour are narrowly in third (19/21/24) in London on a poll which has them nationally in third place and 20% behind the leaders that's a sign they are probably winning London in almost every other poll. I like the 7/4 Ladbrokes now have on them winning the region.
We forget that while this is the second poll (albeit both the same pollster) putting the LDs 2nd most polls have Labour in the mid 20s and the LDs around 15%. Let's say the end result (nationally) is Brex 30%, Lab 22%, LD 17% then this poll would suggest Labour would probably win London - and my hypothetical results are factoring in some more Lab -> LD shift from the polling average.
> @Dura_Ace said: > > @Scott_P said: > > > https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1129728300111339520 > > > > > > Well said by Guy Verhofstadt . > > > > They’re Russian poodles and are doing Putin’s bidding . > > If he was intending to convince anyone not already in agreement with him, then it wasn’t well said at all. > ‘Traitor’ is a term which ought to be used only in its strict legal context. As a political insult it is divisive and counterproductive. > > > > I don't think anybody is expecting or even trying to convince anyone at this stage. The country is dividing itself into two distinct cultural factions both of which actively fucking despise each other. > > This is highly disruptive for the establishment as these two strands of opinion demonstrate little congruence with the party political system or, even more alarmingly, the social caste system.
Three strands of opinion, two groups who do seem to despise each other, and the third looking on from the sidelines with bemusement, sadness and wondering how to get out of this.
A quite predictable (and indeed much predicted) flip. A lot of people talk a good game about disliking a leader/prospective leader or the direction of the party, but at the end of the day the tribe is the tribe, and excuses will be made. Whatever the other factors behind their choice, I respect the CUkers for standing up to be counted about their former tribes/leaders going too far for them.
The Brexit party surge is working wonderfully for the SNP -
2017 result was 36.9 SNP, 28.6 Tory, 27.1 Labour, 6.8 Lib Dems
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I went off Clarke when he called ambulance drivers 'glorified bus drivers'. Mind, they're paramedics now with a lot of training.
I thought highly of Salmond, but I'm bothered about the court case.
I think it is all manufactured, we will see if it ever gets there and if it does I believe it will be rubbish. Just does not ring true at all. Given the coaching and setup on the initial complaints, backdating the rules afterwards etc etc, looks like a real stitch up. Time will tell. They have him out of the picture for now so mission accomplished.
They’re Russian poodles and are doing Putin’s bidding .
What's the difference between that and being an American poodle and doing the military industrial complex's bidding? They're both foreign powers. Being unduly influenced by any foreign power is worthy of condemnation, but why is the second just seen as being a jolly good chap.
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This is highly disruptive for the establishment as these two strands of opinion demonstrate little congruence with the party political system or, even more alarmingly, the social caste system.
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1130038001688559616
https://twitter.com/MeanwhileScotia/status/1130040495101632513
#RuthforFM
On hearing this news Boris Johnson slipped on a high-wire and shouted "Boom Bang-A-Bang" as he crossed the Thames.
Jeremy Corbyn indicated that Labour would set 392 tests and then attempt to be "All Kinds of Everything" to everyone.
Nigel Farage speaking at a rally in Nuremberg said Eurovision had finally met its "Waterloo" and Britain would no longer be "A Puppet On String", whilst Farage ally Donald Trump ripped off a White House interns dress and sang "Save All Your Kisses For Me".
Uncle Vince Cable rose from his bath chair whilst campaigning in Bedford and intoned the yellow peril will "Rise Like A Phoenix" and then hugged local LibDem bigwig Mike Smithson and cried out "Love Shine A Light".
Back in Downing Street Theresa May smiled and whispered "What's Another Year" for me as Prime Minister .....
Developing story ....
We forget that while this is the second poll (albeit both the same pollster) putting the LDs 2nd most polls have Labour in the mid 20s and the LDs around 15%. Let's say the end result (nationally) is Brex 30%, Lab 22%, LD 17% then this poll would suggest Labour would probably win London - and my hypothetical results are factoring in some more Lab -> LD shift from the polling average.
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> If he was intending to convince anyone not already in agreement with him, then it wasn’t well said at all.
> ‘Traitor’ is a term which ought to be used only in its strict legal context. As a political insult it is divisive and counterproductive.
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> I don't think anybody is expecting or even trying to convince anyone at this stage. The country is dividing itself into two distinct cultural factions both of which actively fucking despise each other.
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> This is highly disruptive for the establishment as these two strands of opinion demonstrate little congruence with the party political system or, even more alarmingly, the social caste system.
Three strands of opinion, two groups who do seem to despise each other, and the third looking on from the sidelines with bemusement, sadness and wondering how to get out of this.
2017 result was 36.9 SNP, 28.6 Tory, 27.1 Labour, 6.8 Lib Dems
Plenty of low hanging Tory & Labour fruit for the SNP http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/snp and only Fife North East looking likely to go Lib Dem on this basis.