As always I apologise if I misrepresent you. But never hate your enemies, it makes you vulnerable. JRM certainly has an idiosyncratic view, one I don't share, but I suspect it's not all an act.
I remember once being accused by a young socialist of being a political pub-crawler. No doubt, some sort of class-traitor. I quite liked that, I took it as meaning my views don't fit perfectly into any one political party, a non-purist.
The word 'populism' amuses me. As a retired scientist, it's the favourite word of someone who subjectively believes they are always right, even when their views are unpopular. We get them even in science, but then no one is perfect.
Edit: I may distrust politicians, but that only means I start on the assumption they are always lying. I will accept proof that some occasionally tell the truth.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Regarding speed limiters, its a good idea on paper that will be hard to implement. My Volvo has every safety system thats currently available, one of which is an adaptive speed limiter. Switch it on and the car reads the road signs and sets the limiter accordingly - you can set a variance of a couple of mph though as my speedo is well calibrated I leave it on absolute values.
Most of the time it works just fine. Occasionally it misses a sign and has the wrong speed limit set (easy to override with a single steering wheel button press). Occasionally it decides the limit is now 20 instead of 30 and the first you know of it is the car braking.
And that's before pranksters start making little road signs...
As an inveterate law-breaker, I wouldn't like this. Going up the A68 to Scotland there are limited overtaking points ad it can be depressing being stuck behind a caravan for 50 miles travelling at 40 MPH or something like that. A quick burst of speed allows safe and quick overtaking - and since the Government is placing much store on shaving 20 minutes on rail travel from Birmingham to London, they shouldn't really object if drivers have the same objective travelling from Darlington to Edinburgh.
The devices would not stop you doing that, merely flag up that you were over the speed limit while doing so.
Incidentally the decline of motor vehicle deaths in the UK over recent decades has been a remarkeable success story. They are down to less than 20% of the rate of the mid Sixties:
I doubt that. My lorry is limited to 56 mph, and when you get to that speed an orange light comes on and the accelerator ceases to have any effect. I believe that is an EU wheeze.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
I think that in political discourse you can judge a phrase by the company it keeps. The phrase "cultural Marxism" keeps some very unpleasant company indeed. People who want to use it should not be surprised if they are perceived accordingly.
Signing a petition started by someone who wants to kill Theresa May fall in to the same category?
Up to a point. There's too much extreme and violent language used by people on all sides. Although I would draw a distinction between a well-funded and organised international neo-fascist movement and someone saying something stupid online. I signed the petition. I didn't know anything about the person who started it at the time I did. I probably would have signed it anyway, I think the fact it has been signed by almost 6 million people is probably more relevant than the fact the person who started it may be a twat. But you are right that language matters and we should all take responsibility for the company we keep.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
Gove's 'decline' isn't really anything of the sort. He's still trading above the probability he was fairly steady at through most of March before last weekend. All that's happened is that people have realised that May isn't going to be forced out imminently and that, consequently, the chances of the next Tory leadership change resulting in a coronation are lower (with the assumption - accurate to my mind - that Gove is one of the few who could benefit from that process).
I’m fairly confident British EU commissioner and MEPs backed legislation in the EU they knew would be unpopular here, and then blamed it on the EU saying “what can we do?”
EU commissioners are appointed by the UK government. If they vote for something, it’s because the UK government is quite happy with it. Successive elected UK governments have used the EU to bring in regulations that they knew would be unpopular at home. Then they blamed them the EU in order to avoid electoral difficulties at home.
One of the sources of unhappiness with the EU in the UK was this constant drip, drip of outrage from the tabloids at EU regulations that UK governments had advocated for. The tabloids were happy to generate pageviews with their faux outrage & the government got their regulations & all of them were quite happy with the status quo until it blew up in their faces.
That might be what it means now in various sewers on the Internet. It didn’t used to; see the posts up-thread.
Of course, words change.
As an aside, shouldn’t there be one term that describes the Gramscian capture of the academy and the associated preference for anti-hegemonic cultural values?
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
I would be comfortable with the speed limit on motorways being raised to 85mph if simultaneously the speed limit in built-up areas was reduced to 20mph.
Luckily May gets her estimates of turnout at anti-Brexit marches from Casino Royale.
My estimates are accurate, not propaganda.
I think even the Remain echoists had started to get embarrassed by the “two million!” clarions, and have at least now reverted to the original spin.
I'm sticking with half a million, CR. Long experience of attending matches at Leyton Orient has given me the ability to calculate small crowds accurately.
You’ve been (as usual) consistently very sensible.
I think that in political discourse you can judge a phrase by the company it keeps. The phrase "cultural Marxism" keeps some very unpleasant company indeed. People who want to use it should not be surprised if they are perceived accordingly.
Yes, but unfortunately has become a staple on places like the Telegraph's talk boards, where it also attracts in anti-semitic conspiracists. I've seen much more anti-semitism over the years there then in the Guardian.
I'll take your word for it, but to be fair, as with Corbyn's mural, I wouldn't at first sight have recognised it as anti-semitic and would have just found it obscure. I think there's a problem that people assume that everyone is familiar with the terms of reference in the places they browse, especiually if they're vigilant about this sort of thing - they catch allusions which pass many of us by, including sometimes the people who use them. But I take the point about a phrase acquiring the company it keeps.
Indeed. This phrase has has now in fact become one of the things that has massively increased the visibilty and acceptability of anti-semitism on the internet, because of, first, as you say, its apparent innocuousness on first sight, followed by the company it keeps.
To many people at first it appears as a shorthand for things they may not like, in a mainstream way on the right, such as anti-elitism or excessive pro-minority views in culture.. and then a devotee will be on hand to explain the full "story". I've seen this countless times online, even in apparently unrelated areas such as classical music videos on youtube, for example.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
Driving at 80-85 vs 70 certainly makes little appreciable difference to arrival times (unless you are driving a very long way), increases the risk of accidents, and wastes fuel. I don’t see the point personally.
Something that’s becoming more common is cars being driven at 25mph in towns and wandering all over the road. I imagine it’s people on their phones.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
I would be comfortable with the speed limit on motorways being raised to 85mph if simultaneously the speed limit in built-up areas was reduced to 20mph.
As a pedestrian, I find 20mph limits a pita because cars bunch up at lower speeds so on busy streets there are not the gaps in which to safely cross the road. The same thing happens in heavy rain or snow. It probably means more pollution as well.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
I would be comfortable with the speed limit on motorways being raised to 85mph if simultaneously the speed limit in built-up areas was reduced to 20mph.
Isn't the problem lack of variablity? It's pefectly safe and reasonable to do 30mph past Hackney Marshes at 3 am but you will get done if you try it. At other times, (Sunday about 10.30am) even 15mph is a bit quick.
The whole attitude from the EU today is one that I find really frustrating.
There is a distinct difference between being anti EU and being anti Europe.
I have no problems with identifying (in part) as being European. That is the continent of which we are part. I like visiting European countries, I enjoy European culture and food.
But the EU is not Europe. It never has been and (by all rights) it never will be.
It is a political construct that has decided that it runs all of Europe - which is simply not the case.
You cannot be a citizen of the EU - the EU is not a nation state. You can be a citizen of the EU member state which affords you certain rights within the larger grouping - but you are still not an EU citizen.
If the EU had not embarked on the path of trying to create a pan-national superstate, we wouldn't be where we are now.
I have long been critical of certain parts of the EU project but that doesn't make me a bad person or anti-Europe. It makes me someone with genuine concerns about the direction of travel that the EU has taken. A direction that the UK has not been able to significantly alter - for a range of reasons.
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
I bitterly resent the name calling from within the European Parliament today. It does not help in the slightest.
I think that in political discourse you can judge a phrase by the company it keeps. The phrase "cultural Marxism" keeps some very unpleasant company indeed. People who want to use it should not be surprised if they are perceived accordingly.
Signing a petition started by someone who wants to kill Theresa May fall in to the same category?
Up to a point. There's too much extreme and violent language used by people on all sides. Although I would draw a distinction between a well-funded and organised international neo-fascist movement and someone saying something stupid online. I signed the petition. I didn't know anything about the person who started it at the time I did. I probably would have signed it anyway, I think the fact it has been signed by almost 6 million people is probably more relevant than the fact the person who started it may be a twat. But you are right that language matters and we should all take responsibility for the company we keep.
There's too much focus on how a sentence can be taken out of context and magnified to be the central philosophy of the person who said it rather than seeing it as 1% of their thought process, but that's the way arguments seem to be had now. Of course people signing the petition wouldn't be responsible for anything that happened to Mrs May, but there were plenty who liked to blame journalists who are critical of mass immigration for the Christchurch massacre, to give a recent example. Are the two things that different? Guilt by association to win an argument/make one appear morally superior
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
I agree with that post completely. However EU rules tend to be very sensible (I'm sure there are exceptions), but then we in the UK get hold of them and gold plate them and/or enforce them religiously. Our 'jobs worth' attitude to rules in this country is very frustrating. It often results in laws not being passed that should be because we can't cope with all exceptions, or laws being enforced when clearly common sense says they shouldn't in particular instances.
The whole attitude from the EU today is one that I find really frustrating.
There is a distinct difference between being anti EU and being anti Europe.
I have no problems with identifying (in part) as being European. That is the continent of which we are part. I like visiting European countries, I enjoy European culture and food.
But the EU is not Europe. It never has been and (by all rights) it never will be.
It is a political construct that has decided that it runs all of Europe - which is simply not the case.
You cannot be a citizen of the EU - the EU is not a nation state. You can be a citizen of the EU member state which affords you certain rights within the larger grouping - but you are still not an EU citizen.
If the EU had not embarked on the path of trying to create a pan-national superstate, we wouldn't be where we are now.
I have long been critical of certain parts of the EU project but that doesn't make me a bad person or anti-Europe. It makes me someone with genuine concerns about the direction of travel that the EU has taken. A direction that the UK has not been able to significantly alter - for a range of reasons.
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
I bitterly resent the name calling from within the European Parliament today. It does not help in the slightest.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
I agree with that post completely. However EU rules tend to be very sensible (I'm sure there are exceptions), but then we in the UK get hold of them and gold plate them and/or enforce them religiously. Our 'jobs worth' attitude to rules in this country is very frustrating. It often results in laws not being passed that should be because we can't cope with all exceptions, or laws being enforced when clearly common sense says they shouldn't in particular instances.
I get tremendous pleasure from driving 2mph below the speed limit.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
I would be comfortable with the speed limit on motorways being raised to 85mph if simultaneously the speed limit in built-up areas was reduced to 20mph.
Isn't the problem lack of variablity? It's pefectly safe and reasonable to do 30mph past Hackney Marshes at 3 am but you will get done if you try it. At other times, (Sunday about 10.30am) even 15mph is a bit quick.
Perhaps. But long experience has shown that drivers treat a compulsory maximum as an optional minimum. I can't say that a driver being forced to take another 10 minutes for their journey strikes me as a particular hardship.
That might be what it means now in various sewers on the Internet. It didn’t used to; see the posts up-thread.
Of course, words change.
As an aside, shouldn’t there be one term that describes the Gramscian capture of the academy and the associated preference for anti-hegemonic cultural values?
Times change. Consider similar arguments made on both sides about whether some old buffer on his allotment should immediately recognise a mural showing bankers sitting on workers and playing Monopoly as antisemitic.
Here is the thing. It used to be that we'd dissect what was said. Now we start from the other end: identify virulently antisemitic (or racist or Islamophobic or whatever) groups; see what they say and do that "normal" groups do not; those things can be used to identify (and in places even define) antisemitism, racism or whatever.
The whole attitude from the EU today is one that I find really frustrating.
There is a distinct difference between being anti EU and being anti Europe.
I have no problems with identifying (in part) as being European. That is the continent of which we are part. I like visiting European countries, I enjoy European culture and food.
But the EU is not Europe. It never has been and (by all rights) it never will be.
It is a political construct that has decided that it runs all of Europe - which is simply not the case.
You cannot be a citizen of the EU - the EU is not a nation state. You can be a citizen of the EU member state which affords you certain rights within the larger grouping - but you are still not an EU citizen.
If the EU had not embarked on the path of trying to create a pan-national superstate, we wouldn't be where we are now.
I have long been critical of certain parts of the EU project but that doesn't make me a bad person or anti-Europe. It makes me someone with genuine concerns about the direction of travel that the EU has taken. A direction that the UK has not been able to significantly alter - for a range of reasons.
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
I bitterly resent the name calling from within the European Parliament today. It does not help in the slightest.
I'm now imagining you sitting in the restaurants in Norway, Serbia and Ukraine enjoying that non-EU European cuisine.
Speed limits are all fine and dandy - but there are times when you legitimately need to exceed the speed limit in order to avoid an incident. Speed limiters take away that control precisely at a time when you might actually need it to avoid a larger problem.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Funnily enough, one of the few I've ever encountered who claimed to stick rigidly to the speed limit at all times was Snowflake, once of this parish. It is widely thought that she was Yvette Cooper, in which case I would say from my perception of her here that she is notably well-informed, and dogmatic.
And no, I don't always stick to the speed limit. There are times when it is downright dangerous to do so.
Good morning, everybody. I have been offline since Thursday. Please can someone tell me whether a No-deal Brexit has been definitely and legally avoided yet? I've looked at the BBC news but it doesn't seem to give a definite picture.
I can't say that a driver being forced to take another 10 minutes for their journey strikes me as a particular hardship.
so a bit like having to stand in a diffeerent passport queue then ? :-)
I'm not sure how many deaths speeding through a passport queue causes but I'll take a stab that the number is a little lower than that caused by driving too fast.
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
Are you in favour of customs barriers between the countries that are currently in the EU? If not, then whatever you replace the EU with would need to look remarkably like the current EU.
I think that in political discourse you can judge a phrase by the company it keeps. The phrase "cultural Marxism" keeps some very unpleasant company indeed. People who want to use it should not be surprised if they are perceived accordingly.
Signing a petition started by someone who wants to kill Theresa May fall in to the same category?
Up to a point. There's too much extreme and violent language used by people on all sides. Although I would draw a distinction between a well-funded and organised international neo-fascist movement and someone saying something stupid online. I signed the petition. I didn't know anything about the person who started it at the time I did. I probably would have signed it anyway, I think the fact it has been signed by almost 6 million people is probably more relevant than the fact the person who started it may be a twat. But you are right that language matters and we should all take responsibility for the company we keep.
There's too much focus on how a sentence can be taken out of context and magnified to be the central philosophy of the person who said it rather than seeing it as 1% of their thought process, but that's the way arguments seem to be had now. Of course people signing the petition wouldn't be responsible for anything that happened to Mrs May, but there were plenty who liked to blame journalists who are critical of mass immigration for the Christchurch massacre, to give a recent example. Are the two things that different? Guilt by association to win an argument/make one appear morally superior
I agree, the gotcha culture online is very tiring. Personally I have no interest in appearing morally superior. But if somebody is using a phrase widely used by neo-Nazis I think that should be highlighted. Either the person was unaware of the connection, in which case they would presumably be grateful for having it drawn to their attention. Or they are aware but think it doesn't matter, in which case I think they should be respectfully challenged, because language does matter. Or they are a neo Nazi-sympathiser and are trying to promulgate their hateful ideology, in which case I think they should be challenged forcefully, because we know how this process ends.
Speed limits are all fine and dandy - but there are times when you legitimately need to exceed the speed limit in order to avoid an incident. Speed limiters take away that control precisely at a time when you might actually need it to avoid a larger problem.
You see it already on the motorway with trucks that are limited. At busy times one whole lane is just blocked off with back to back lorries.
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
Are you in favour of customs barriers between the countries that are currently in the EU? If not, then whatever you replace the EU with would need to look remarkably like the current EU.
I am perfectly happy to have a well-constructed trading bloc with reciprocal arrangements - what I object to is everything that has been loaded on top of that. The 'European Project' has moved beyond trade and the necessary structures to support and facilitate that into areas that really should be left to the nation state.
Who'd have though Donald Tusk could reach JFK's 'Ich bin ein Berliner' levels of solidarity with his appeal to British Europeans. Listening to a phone-in people are saying they were in tears when they heard what he said
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
I think that in political discourse you can judge a phrase by the company it keeps. The phrase "cultural Marxism" keeps some very unpleasant company indeed. People who want to use it should not be surprised if they are perceived accordingly.
Signing a petition started by someone who wants to kill Theresa May fall in to the same category?
Up to a point. There's too much extreme and violent language used by people on all sides. Although I would draw a distinction between a well-funded and organised international neo-fascist movement and someone saying something stupid online. I signed the petition. I didn't know anything about the person who started it at the time I did. I probably would have signed it anyway, I think the fact it has been signed by almost 6 million people is probably more relevant than the fact the person who started it may be a twat. But you are right that language matters and we should all take responsibility for the company we keep.
There's too much focus on how a sentence can be taken out of context and magnified to be the central philosophy of the person who said it rather than seeing it as 1% of their thought process, but that's the way arguments seem to be had now. Of course people signing the petition wouldn't be responsible for anything that happened to Mrs May, but there were plenty who liked to blame journalists who are critical of mass immigration for the Christchurch massacre, to give a recent example. Are the two things that different? Guilt by association to win an argument/make one appear morally superior
I agree, the gotcha culture online is very tiring. Personally I have no interest in appearing morally superior. But if somebody is using a phrase widely used by neo-Nazis I think that should be highlighted. Either the person was unaware of the connection, in which case they would presumably be grateful for having it drawn to their attention. Or they are aware but think it doesn't matter, in which case I think they should be respectfully challenged, because language does matter. Or they are a neo Nazi-sympathiser and are trying to promulgate their hateful ideology, in which case I think they should be challenged forcefully, because we know how this process ends.
The fact the person using it on this occasion is a Conservative married to a Jewish man probably means she was probably using it to dig out PC lefties, which is the obvious take reading the context even if she wasn't.
Good morning, everybody. I have been offline since Thursday. Please can someone tell me whether a No-deal Brexit has been definitely and legally avoided yet? I've looked at the BBC news but it doesn't seem to give a definite picture.
Thanks in anticipation.
For the day after tomorrow, yes, although there are some brexit enthusiasts dicking around with an eccentric legal theory that, were it not a pile of pants, would mean no.
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
Are you in favour of customs barriers between the countries that are currently in the EU? If not, then whatever you replace the EU with would need to look remarkably like the current EU.
the issue is one of governance and accountability. We could have more confederal structure rather than the one direction dirigisme of th current set up.
The highest verified speed on UK public roads is 197mph by the great Smokey Nagata on the A1 in an A80 Supra running 2 bar of boost. Unless anyone on here can top it?
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
I would expect 20 to 30mph speed limits to be taken very seriously.
A motorway is a regulated environment and the 70mph limit designed for a different age when car engines, brakes, and safety was of an entirely different order.
Who'd have though Donald Tusk could reach JFK's 'Ich bin ein Berliner' levels of solidarity with his appeal to British Europeans. Listening to a phone-in people are saying they were in tears when they heard what he said
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
I'm not sure the UK is reminiscent of Berlin 1963 or Gdansk 1982 quite yet.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Speak for yourself. You usually do.
You’ve detected an opportunity to climb on a high horse, whilst hiding behind your cloak of anonymity, and rebuke posters you politically disagree with whilst making yourself feel good about it at the same time.
I take your posts about as seriously as I do all your other posts.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
I would be comfortable with the speed limit on motorways being raised to 85mph if simultaneously the speed limit in built-up areas was reduced to 20mph.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
I would expect 20 to 30mph speed limits to be taken very seriously.
A motorway is a regulated environment and the 70mph limit designed for a different age when car engines, brakes, and safety was of an entirely different order.
Although it is still intrinsically both safer and more environmentally friendly to travel at 70mph than 80mph. That's not to say that in the right conditions it wouldn't be safe to travel at 90mph or even higher but casualty rates on the roads are falling and the static speed limits is a part of that.
I’m fairly confident British EU commissioner and MEPs backed legislation in the EU they knew would be unpopular here, and then blamed it on the EU saying “what can we do?”
EU commissioners are appointed by the UK government. If they vote for something, it’s because the UK government is quite happy with it. Successive elected UK governments have used the EU to bring in regulations that they knew would be unpopular at home. Then they blamed them the EU in order to avoid electoral difficulties at home.
One of the sources of unhappiness with the EU in the UK was this constant drip, drip of outrage from the tabloids at EU regulations that UK governments had advocated for. The tabloids were happy to generate pageviews with their faux outrage & the government got their regulations & all of them were quite happy with the status quo until it blew up in their faces.
Trouble is, we have no way of easily telling which are which.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Speak for yourself. You usually do.
You’ve detected an opportunity to climb on a high horse, whilst hiding behind your cloak of anonymity, and rebuke posters you politically disagree with whilst making yourself feel good about it at the same time.
I take your posts about as seriously as I do all your other posts.
The highest verified speed on UK public roads is 197mph by the great Smokey Nagata on the A1 in an A80 Supra running 2 bar of boost. Unless anyone on here can top it?
113 mph is my record.
In a Porsche Cayenne Turbo on the M1.
That was the best vehicle I owned.
It was a performance sports car on a 4x4 floor plan.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
I would be comfortable with the speed limit on motorways being raised to 85mph if simultaneously the speed limit in built-up areas was reduced to 20mph.
I agree. In practice, the police only take an interest at people doing 85 + on motorways.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
I agree with that post completely. However EU rules tend to be very sensible (I'm sure there are exceptions), but then we in the UK get hold of them and gold plate them and/or enforce them religiously. Our 'jobs worth' attitude to rules in this country is very frustrating. It often results in laws not being passed that should be because we can't cope with all exceptions, or laws being enforced when clearly common sense says they shouldn't in particular instances.
And, also, that too many in positions of authority take pleasure in “catching” those who technically break the rules.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
I would be comfortable with the speed limit on motorways being raised to 85mph if simultaneously the speed limit in built-up areas was reduced to 20mph.
A sensible suggestion.
Wasn't something like that suggested in the early days of coalition but the eco-warriors went nuts as car emissions higher at 80 rather than 70.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
I agree with that post completely. However EU rules tend to be very sensible (I'm sure there are exceptions), but then we in the UK get hold of them and gold plate them and/or enforce them religiously. Our 'jobs worth' attitude to rules in this country is very frustrating. It often results in laws not being passed that should be because we can't cope with all exceptions, or laws being enforced when clearly common sense says they shouldn't in particular instances.
I get tremendous pleasure from driving 2mph below the speed limit.
I think you’re full of shit.
If a policeman followed you for long enough you’d get a ticket, just like everyone else.
The largest gap between males and females occurred in decile 1 with a gap of 4.7 years, and smallest in decile 10 at 2.9 years. The sex-specific gap between adjacent deciles was largest between the two most deprived deciles, decile 1 and decile 2. Decile 2 males were expected to live more than 2.2 years longer than males in decile 1, showing a stark contrast even between relatively deprived populations. For females, the equivalent gap was 1.6 years.
Who'd have though Donald Tusk could reach JFK's 'Ich bin ein Berliner' levels of solidarity with his appeal to British Europeans. Listening to a phone-in people are saying they were in tears when they heard what he said
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
Speed limits are all fine and dandy - but there are times when you legitimately need to exceed the speed limit in order to avoid an incident. Speed limiters take away that control precisely at a time when you might actually need it to avoid a larger problem.
You see it already on the motorway with trucks that are limited. At busy times one whole lane is just blocked off with back to back lorries.
This the times I want to do 80 on a motorway is to get away from someone doing 70 driving badly...
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
Are you in favour of customs barriers between the countries that are currently in the EU? If not, then whatever you replace the EU with would need to look remarkably like the current EU.
I am perfectly happy to have a well-constructed trading bloc with reciprocal arrangements - what I object to is everything that has been loaded on top of that. The 'European Project' has moved beyond trade and the necessary structures to support and facilitate that into areas that really should be left to the nation state.
It would have been preferable if the EU had stayed as the Western European Union; the original six, plus us, Austria and Iberia and maybe Scandinavia. However, thanks in no small part to Mrs T, we are where we are. The culture in the East, for historic reasons is, it seems to me, somewhat different.
I’m fairly confident British EU commissioner and MEPs backed legislation in the EU they knew would be unpopular here, and then blamed it on the EU saying “what can we do?”
EU commissioners are appointed by the UK government. If they vote for something, it’s because the UK government is quite happy with it.
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No, that's not right. One EU commissioner is nominated by the UK government but after appointment, they are not the representative of that government and are explicitly required to have their allegiance to the EU as a whole. If a commissioners advocates something, it's because they personally think it's worth doing.
You are right that the Commission will often initiate law on the request of national governments but when they do, it's because they agree with the point, not because the commissioner's PM has told them to.
The Council of Ministers exists to enable national government to advocate their case.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Funnily enough, one of the few I've ever encountered who claimed to stick rigidly to the speed limit at all times was Snowflake, once of this parish. It is widely thought that she was Yvette Cooper, in which case I would say from my perception of her here that she is notably well-informed, and dogmatic.
And no, I don't always stick to the speed limit. There are times when it is downright dangerous to do so.
I think the rule of speed limit + 2 mph + 10% is a sensible rule of thumb for a prosecution.
I go much slower when there are horses, cyclists and children, down to 15mph at times. If it’s a clear road, at 6am, I have gone 37-38mph in a built up area, but I don’t take the piss. On motorways I’d say I average 75-80 with spurts when I get up to 85-90.
The fact the person using it on this occasion is a Conservative married to a Jewish man probably means she was probably using it to dig out PC lefties, which is the obvious take reading the context even if she wasn't.
Personally I think her use of the phrase illustrates that there is a continuum of global far right thought that stretches right from the guys with the tiki torches to the right wing of the Conservative party, via people like Orban, Bannon, the Mercers, Brevik and the NZ mosque shooter, "Tommy Robinson" and some commentators on the Telegraph comment boards. I view all these people as a threat to my family's ultimate happiness and safety. If that makes me a PC leftie then I guess that is a badge I am willing to wear.
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
Are you in favour of customs barriers between the countries that are currently in the EU? If not, then whatever you replace the EU with would need to look remarkably like the current EU.
I am perfectly happy to have a well-constructed trading bloc with reciprocal arrangements - what I object to is everything that has been loaded on top of that. The 'European Project' has moved beyond trade and the necessary structures to support and facilitate that into areas that really should be left to the nation state.
It would have been preferable if the EU had stayed as the Western European Union; the original six, plus us, Austria and Iberia and maybe Scandinavia. However, thanks in no small part to Mrs T, we are where we are. The culture in the East, for historic reasons is, it seems to me, somewhat different.
...and arguably in the Med, too. But it's actually in the Mediterranean or South where the EU has been the most beneficial in supporting democracy, despite the travails of recent years. In Spain, Portugal and Greece, the EU has replaced dictatorship with democracy, partially compromised by power relations with the north-western EU, ofcourse, but still greater democracy.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
I would be comfortable with the speed limit on motorways being raised to 85mph if simultaneously the speed limit in built-up areas was reduced to 20mph.
That is exactly what should happen. There are so many children etc popping up out of nowhere in residential areas that it doesn't matter that much how good a driver one is. Speed is the main predictor of whether the pedestrian survives a crash or not.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Funnily enough, one of the few I've ever encountered who claimed to stick rigidly to the speed limit at all times was Snowflake, once of this parish. It is widely thought that she was Yvette Cooper, in which case I would say from my perception of her here that she is notably well-informed, and dogmatic.
And no, I don't always stick to the speed limit. There are times when it is downright dangerous to do so.
I think the rule of speed limit + 2 mph + 10% is a sensible rule of thumb for a prosecution.
I go much slower when there are horses, cyclists and children, down to 15mph at times. If it’s a clear road, at 6am, I have gone 37-38mph in a built up area, but I don’t take the piss. On motorways I’d say I average 75-80 with spurts when I get up to 85-90.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
I would expect 20 to 30mph speed limits to be taken very seriously.
A motorway is a regulated environment and the 70mph limit designed for a different age when car engines, brakes, and safety was of an entirely different order.
Although it is still intrinsically both safer and more environmentally friendly to travel at 70mph than 80mph. That's not to say that in the right conditions it wouldn't be safe to travel at 90mph or even higher but casualty rates on the roads are falling and the static speed limits is a part of that.
It’s still safer to travel at 50mph, or not to travel at all and stay at home.
There are trade offs: including the economy, speed, and pleasure.
The speed limits have been the same for a very long time so I find it hard to see how they’ve been a decisive factor in reductions over the last 20-30 years.
I am in Paris currently and have not been concentrating, but am I right in saying that the ERG is now split between those who believe the UK should become a vassal state of the EU and others who believe it is vital to keep on fighting against the Jews?
I don't think the Corbynistas have yet infiltrated the ERG....
Cultural Marxism is just a fancy way of saying “political correctness gone maaaaad”. I am surprised to see it described as an anti-Semitic trope.
No, it is an explicitly anti-semitic phrase. If people are unknowingly using it they are still promoting anti-semitism.
It's not explicitly anti-Semitic. The allegation is that is code for anti-semitism. But, I've certainly seen the term used in contexts that are not anti-Semitic.
I must have seen the phrase Cultural Marxism used at least dozens of times, and never once with an anti-Semitic intent to the best of my knowledge.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Who does not?
Quite a few people never break speed limits by design. It has always amused me how many who would consider themselves on the side of law and order think they have the right to ignore laws they dislike as soon as they get in their car, even though they are designed to prevent injury and death.
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
Speeding in urban areas and on country roads is stupid, but doing 80-85 on a motorway makes little difference. Motorways are by far the safest roads on which to drive.
I would be comfortable with the speed limit on motorways being raised to 85mph if simultaneously the speed limit in built-up areas was reduced to 20mph.
A sensible suggestion.
Wasn't something like that suggested in the early days of coalition but the eco-warriors went nuts as car emissions higher at 80 rather than 70.
There’s always a reason why the public need to be told what to do.
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
Are you in favour of customs barriers between the countries that are currently in the EU? If not, then whatever you replace the EU with would need to look remarkably like the current EU.
Don't be silly. The EU of today looks very different from the EEC of 1965, yet that earlier body had already done away with customs barriers. The idea that all the rest of the associated projects are necessary for that limited objective is demonstrably false and damages the arguments of those who want either a trading area or a much more political union.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
I agree with that post completely. However EU rules tend to be very sensible (I'm sure there are exceptions), but then we in the UK get hold of them and gold plate them and/or enforce them religiously. Our 'jobs worth' attitude to rules in this country is very frustrating. It often results in laws not being passed that should be because we can't cope with all exceptions, or laws being enforced when clearly common sense says they shouldn't in particular instances.
I get tremendous pleasure from driving 2mph below the speed limit.
I think you’re full of shit.
If a policeman followed you for long enough you’d get a ticket, just like everyone else.
I disagree, I think there are plenty of people who wouldn't knowingly break the speed limit.
The one's that used to wind me up on the A32 were the drivers who'd do 40 in the 60 zones, and then carry on doing that speed through the 30 limited villages.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Funnily enough, one of the few I've ever encountered who claimed to stick rigidly to the speed limit at all times was Snowflake, once of this parish. It is widely thought that she was Yvette Cooper, in which case I would say from my perception of her here that she is notably well-informed, and dogmatic.
And no, I don't always stick to the speed limit. There are times when it is downright dangerous to do so.
I think the rule of speed limit + 2 mph + 10% is a sensible rule of thumb for a prosecution.
I go much slower when there are horses, cyclists and children, down to 15mph at times. If it’s a clear road, at 6am, I have gone 37-38mph in a built up area, but I don’t take the piss. On motorways I’d say I average 75-80 with spurts when I get up to 85-90.
In other words, I use my judgment.
So you routinely break laws that you do not like?
I have recently installed a dash cam and my speedometer is 2 mph faster than the GPS
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Speak for yourself. You usually do.
You’ve detected an opportunity to climb on a high horse, whilst hiding behind your cloak of anonymity, and rebuke posters you politically disagree with whilst making yourself feel good about it at the same time.
I take your posts about as seriously as I do all your other posts.
What’s your name?
If you came to a pb meet you might find out. I am known to the editors and several regular posters. I have no intention of revealing it publicly.
I suspect you are a reincarnation of a previous poster, and your behaviour since you started posting under this account has been pompous and rude.
Who'd have though Donald Tusk could reach JFK's 'Ich bin ein Berliner' levels of solidarity with his appeal to British Europeans. Listening to a phone-in people are saying they were in tears when they heard what he said
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
Are you in favour of customs barriers between the countries that are currently in the EU? If not, then whatever you replace the EU with would need to look remarkably like the current EU.
Don't be silly. The EU of today looks very different from the EEC of 1965, yet that earlier body had already done away with customs barriers. The idea that all the rest of the associated projects are necessary for that limited objective is demonstrably false and damages the arguments of those who want either a trading area or a much more political union.
It wasn't until the advent of the single market that barriers were finally removed. The original goals of the EEC took a long time to come to fruition. My point was mainly that this cannot be done without political institutions of a similar nature to the ones we have.
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
I agree with that post completely. However EU rules tend to be very sensible (I'm sure there are exceptions), but then we in the UK get hold of them and gold plate them and/or enforce them religiously. Our 'jobs worth' attitude to rules in this country is very frustrating. It often results in laws not being passed that should be because we can't cope with all exceptions, or laws being enforced when clearly common sense says they shouldn't in particular instances.
I get tremendous pleasure from driving 2mph below the speed limit.
I think you’re full of shit.
If a policeman followed you for long enough you’d get a ticket, just like everyone else.
I disagree, I think there are plenty of people who wouldn't knowingly break the speed limit.
The one's that used to wind me up on the A32 were the drivers who'd do 40 in the 60 zones, and then carry on doing that speed through the 30 limited villages.
Who'd have though Donald Tusk could reach JFK's 'Ich bin ein Berliner' levels of solidarity with his appeal to British Europeans. Listening to a phone-in people are saying they were in tears when they heard what he said
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
Car speed limiters in 2022, we're getting them whether in the EU or not.
Isn’t this a complete non story? Speed limiting technology does not enforce speed limits, it allows drivers to control their speed by means other than the accelerator and the brake.
No - It very much is a story and the EU will pass it into law in September applying to all new cars and commercial vehicles from 2022. The speed will be governed by a limiter based on gps. The driver will be able to override the speed limiter but aftet a short period an audible warning will cut in
There’s an awful lot of shitcake nannying legislation coming out of the EU this week that reminds me why I voted to Leave. They seem intent on taking all the freedom and pleasure out of driving.
It’s reminded me why I voted to Leave and felt so strongly about it prior to the vote.
You take pleasure out of breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit?
Yes, and so do you.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Funnily enough, one of the few I've ever encountered who claimed to stick rigidly to the speed limit at all times was Snowflake, once of this parish. It is widely thought that she was Yvette Cooper, in which case I would say from my perception of her here that she is notably well-informed, and dogmatic.
And no, I don't always stick to the speed limit. There are times when it is downright dangerous to do so.
I think the rule of speed limit + 2 mph + 10% is a sensible rule of thumb for a prosecution.
I go much slower when there are horses, cyclists and children, down to 15mph at times. If it’s a clear road, at 6am, I have gone 37-38mph in a built up area, but I don’t take the piss. On motorways I’d say I average 75-80 with spurts when I get up to 85-90.
Who'd have though Donald Tusk could reach JFK's 'Ich bin ein Berliner' levels of solidarity with his appeal to British Europeans. Listening to a phone-in people are saying they were in tears when they heard what he said
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
There wasn't a dry eye in the house.
Tories don't have tear ducts
Didn't George Osborne once famously cry at a funeral....
Massive Movement on Betfair in the last 15 minutes in favour of May's deal being approved at 3rd attempt.
This seems to be optimistic - Rees Mogg's article in the Mail says he is "now willing to support [the deal] IF THE DUP DOES." But there is little sign that the DUP are going to do that, their statements yesterday do not suggest any movement on their part.
Who'd have though Donald Tusk could reach JFK's 'Ich bin ein Berliner' levels of solidarity with his appeal to British Europeans. Listening to a phone-in people are saying they were in tears when they heard what he said
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
Who'd have though Donald Tusk could reach JFK's 'Ich bin ein Berliner' levels of solidarity with his appeal to British Europeans. Listening to a phone-in people are saying they were in tears when they heard what he said
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
There wasn't a dry eye in the house.
Tories don't have tear ducts
Or hearts.
We should sympathise with the ERGers. They don’t even have brains...
Who'd have though Donald Tusk could reach JFK's 'Ich bin ein Berliner' levels of solidarity with his appeal to British Europeans. Listening to a phone-in people are saying they were in tears when they heard what he said
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
The fact the person using it on this occasion is a Conservative married to a Jewish man probably means she was probably using it to dig out PC lefties, which is the obvious take reading the context even if she wasn't.
Personally I think her use of the phrase illustrates that there is a continuum of global far right thought that stretches right from the guys with the tiki torches to the right wing of the Conservative party, via people like Orban, Bannon, the Mercers, Brevik and the NZ mosque shooter, "Tommy Robinson" and some commentators on the Telegraph comment boards. I view all these people as a threat to my family's ultimate happiness and safety. If that makes me a PC leftie then I guess that is a badge I am willing to wear.
I think May's deal will fail again, more narrowly, and then Bercow may kibosh it again, to prevent a fourth time, as there won't be any new change to the substance. Maybe the next only real crunch moment will be the government's response to the indicative votes.
Again, we're allowing ourselves very little time to change course, and it is heavily irresponsible to do that.
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As always I apologise if I misrepresent you. But never hate your enemies, it makes you vulnerable. JRM certainly has an idiosyncratic view, one I don't share, but I suspect it's not all an act.
I remember once being accused by a young socialist of being a political pub-crawler. No doubt, some sort of class-traitor. I quite liked that, I took it as meaning my views don't fit perfectly into any one political party, a non-purist.
The word 'populism' amuses me. As a retired scientist, it's the favourite word of someone who subjectively believes they are always right, even when their views are unpopular. We get them even in science, but then no one is perfect.
Edit: I may distrust politicians, but that only means I start on the assumption they are always lying. I will accept proof that some occasionally tell the truth.
I’ve never met anyone who’s religiously stuck to 70mph on dual carriageways and motorways at all times, and wouldn’t believe you if you said you were one of them.
Going 100mph+ is obviously dickish but rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
JIMIPM
The only clearly sensible exception to me is overtaking on single carriage roads, which should be completed as swiftly as possible. I find 20mph infuriating, but spend little time driving in socialist boroughs of London, so it doesn’t affect me.
No deal has not definitively been ruled out. It currently seems less likely than it did previously.
One of the sources of unhappiness with the EU in the UK was this constant drip, drip of outrage from the tabloids at EU regulations that UK governments had advocated for. The tabloids were happy to generate pageviews with their faux outrage & the government got their regulations & all of them were quite happy with the status quo until it blew up in their faces.
Of course, words change.
As an aside, shouldn’t there be one term that describes the Gramscian capture of the academy and the associated preference for anti-hegemonic cultural values?
To many people at first it appears as a shorthand for things they may not like, in a mainstream way on the right, such as anti-elitism or excessive pro-minority views in culture.. and then a devotee will be on hand to explain the full "story". I've seen this countless times online, even in apparently unrelated areas such as classical music videos on youtube, for example.
Something that’s becoming more common is cars being driven at 25mph in towns and wandering all over the road. I imagine it’s people on their phones.
https://twitter.com/HenryNewman/status/1110831159234232326
There is a distinct difference between being anti EU and being anti Europe.
I have no problems with identifying (in part) as being European. That is the continent of which we are part. I like visiting European countries, I enjoy European culture and food.
But the EU is not Europe. It never has been and (by all rights) it never will be.
It is a political construct that has decided that it runs all of Europe - which is simply not the case.
You cannot be a citizen of the EU - the EU is not a nation state. You can be a citizen of the EU member state which affords you certain rights within the larger grouping - but you are still not an EU citizen.
If the EU had not embarked on the path of trying to create a pan-national superstate, we wouldn't be where we are now.
I have long been critical of certain parts of the EU project but that doesn't make me a bad person or anti-Europe. It makes me someone with genuine concerns about the direction of travel that the EU has taken. A direction that the UK has not been able to significantly alter - for a range of reasons.
I am a European - in the true sense of the word. But as a remain voter who would now vote otherwise, I am anti-EU - at least in the current form. A form that is not going to change in the short-medium term as far as I can see.
I bitterly resent the name calling from within the European Parliament today. It does not help in the slightest.
Here is the thing. It used to be that we'd dissect what was said. Now we start from the other end: identify virulently antisemitic (or racist or Islamophobic or whatever) groups; see what they say and do that "normal" groups do not; those things can be used to identify (and in places even define) antisemitism, racism or whatever.
so a bit like having to stand in a diffeerent passport queue then ? :-)
Massive Movement on Betfair in the last 15 minutes in favour of May's deal being approved at 3rd attempt.
And no, I don't always stick to the speed limit. There are times when it is downright dangerous to do so.
Right that's it. The straw which breaks.
No Deal.
Checked Ladbrokes (traditionally bookies can sometimes lag) but there isn't a straight market on May's deal passing, that I could see.
Movements start with the most unlikely beginnings. Could this be the start of a beautiful friendship.....
Male life expectation in England for the most deprived 10% is 9.3 years less than for the least deprived 10%
But healthy life expectancy is 18.7 years less.
That's a lot of extra ill health in the poor parts of town.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthinequalities/bulletins/healthstatelifeexpectanciesbyindexofmultipledeprivationimd/2015to2017#life-expectancy-and-healthy-life-expectancy-in-england-by-the-index-of-multiple-deprivation-2015-imd15-2015-to-2017
For April 12th, no.
More Europeans would be happy with it.
A motorway is a regulated environment and the 70mph limit designed for a different age when car engines, brakes, and safety was of an entirely different order.
I take your posts about as seriously as I do all your other posts.
Trouble is, we have no way of easily telling which are which.
In a Porsche Cayenne Turbo on the M1.
That was the best vehicle I owned.
It was a performance sports car on a 4x4 floor plan.
If a policeman followed you for long enough you’d get a ticket, just like everyone else.
The largest gap between males and females occurred in decile 1 with a gap of 4.7 years, and smallest in decile 10 at 2.9 years. The sex-specific gap between adjacent deciles was largest between the two most deprived deciles, decile 1 and decile 2. Decile 2 males were expected to live more than 2.2 years longer than males in decile 1, showing a stark contrast even between relatively deprived populations. For females, the equivalent gap was 1.6 years.
You are right that the Commission will often initiate law on the request of national governments but when they do, it's because they agree with the point, not because the commissioner's PM has told them to.
The Council of Ministers exists to enable national government to advocate their case.
I go much slower when there are horses, cyclists and children, down to 15mph at times. If it’s a clear road, at 6am, I have gone 37-38mph in a built up area, but I don’t take the piss. On motorways I’d say I average 75-80 with spurts when I get up to 85-90.
In other words, I use my judgment.
Price for ERG is end of Mrs May. Price for Labour is GE.
PD iced, new Tory leader, then a GE which decides who runs with the Future Relationship.
I like GE in Oct at 12/1.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.156207707
There was a spike to "Yes it will pass" but that has receded again.
There are trade offs: including the economy, speed, and pleasure.
The speed limits have been the same for a very long time so I find it hard to see how they’ve been a decisive factor in reductions over the last 20-30 years.
There’s always a reason why the public need to be told what to do.
The one's that used to wind me up on the A32 were the drivers who'd do 40 in the 60 zones, and then carry on doing that speed through the 30 limited villages.
I suspect you are a reincarnation of a previous poster, and your behaviour since you started posting under this account has been pompous and rude.
No geninuely new delurker would do that.
Has to be an omen
Again, we're allowing ourselves very little time to change course, and it is heavily irresponsible to do that.