Who will their candidate be? Without a formal party structure, who chooses who the candidate will be?
Maybe they should try to raise the money to hold an open primary to choose a candidate for the by-election? (Edit: This idea brought to you thanks to Chris Leslie's comments about it not being democratic for political party members to choose a leader - this implies that a larger electorate should choose the leader/candidates, and consequently a system of primaries)
Interestingly, it appears that there's no local elections scheduled for May 2nd in Wales.
So do Labour go for that date and risk their defeat being the story of the night, or go earlier (April 11th?) and hope no-one notices among all the Brexit news?
Can't see it happening. Newport West will return a Labour MP and TIG isn't even a party yet. Unless the polls are showing 40% for them real soon now (which they won't), there's no upside for them in standing.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they commission some private polling in the constituency just to test the water.
For the Lib Dems, as so often, May's locals are going to be crucial. If they do well (and as they'll be fighting seats last fought on General Election day 2015, they could hardly do worse), it'll put them in a much better position to negotiate with TIG.
A comment made by TM today at PMQ's seems to have been missed in all the noise but she clearly said it is a deal or no brexit.
I would not be at all surprised if the deal falls she will surprise everyone and call a referendum and in one act, defenestrate ERG, and check mate Corbyn
The political climate is highly charged but I do believe these last few days has seen the end of Corbyn becoming PM and if so, he has all been worthwhile
If May is forced into an Article 50 extension, TIG will be the only major force going into the European elections with a coherent policy on Brexit. They could win and Labour and the Tories would get squeezed out on the other side by UKIP/The Brexit Party.
Both main parties seriously in the danger zone now.
I don't think Tigger is a serious name for a party! It sounds like something out of whinny the poo.
Something more like the British European Peoples party would be better!
I am more with the independents anyway than the Tories at the moment. I definitely don't like Corbyn. I can see NO Deal Brexit happening under the Tories and the damage it will do to the economy gathering pace.
Both parties reacted in a way that validated the arguments of those departing them, because they don't know how else to behave.
...But the truth is that we live in remarkable and fast changing times. The two main parties are both zombified and poisoned. The moment is primed for something to truly shake up the way this country does politics. This could be it.
I don't think Tiger is a serious name for a party! It sounds like something out of whinny the poo.
Something more like the British European Peoples party would be better!
I am more with the independents anyway than the Tories at the moment. I definitely don't like Corbyn. I can see NO Deal Brexit happening under the Tories and the damage it will do to the economy gathering pace.
Like I said in a previous thread, they should just get the inevitable merger with the Lib Dems over and done with and call the new party the British Internationalist New Liberal Independent Democrats, the BINLIDs.
Mr. P, it's a dumb argument. If your perspective is validated by someone you dislike being angry, or someone you like approving, then you've contracted out your critical faculties to your opponents and those you've placed on a pedestal.
Hitler was nice to his secretaries. And a vegetarian. That doesn't mean those are bad things just because a bad man approved of them. Stalin helped Kaganovic[sp] improve his literacy. Doesn't mean reading and writing fluently is evil.
The new party may well be a good thing, but The Bad People Being Angry isn't an argument in favour of that.
Far better to discuss policies and ideas than focusing on personal responses.
So you are a 'centrist' Labour MP. You were thinking of jumping ship and becoming a Tigger. You now see that a full-on Tory in the shape of Soubry has joined them. You decide to stay Labour.
I don't think Tigger is a serious name for a party! It sounds like something out of whinny the poo.
Something more like the British European Peoples party would be better!
I am more with the independents anyway than the Tories at the moment. I definitely don't like Corbyn. I can see NO Deal Brexit happening under the Tories and the damage it will do to the economy gathering pace.
Their campaign slogan would be "The wonderful thing about Tiggers, is that Tiggers are wonderful things."
Come to think of it, it's just as well they don't call themselves New Independent Group.
Can't see it happening. Newport West will return a Labour MP and TIG isn't even a party yet. Unless the polls are showing 40% for them real soon now (which they won't), there's no upside for them in standing.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they commission some private polling in the constituency just to test the water.
Newport West is a marginal. If the by-election was tomorrow, the Tories would probably win it.
I think you and Freggles are right - the Tiggers won't stand. They don't have a party, and I think they'll take setting one up quite slowly. But it depends on the polls and the pressure from the public.
Is grey/charcoal/elephant's breath actually the Tiggers' official colour (as claimed by Wikipedia) or is it a placeholder? Millennial pink is available, might suit them.
I don't think Tigger is a serious name for a party! It sounds like something out of whinny the poo.
Something more like the British European Peoples party would be better!
I am more with the independents anyway than the Tories at the moment. I definitely don't like Corbyn. I can see NO Deal Brexit happening under the Tories and the damage it will do to the economy gathering pace.
Their campaign slogan would be "The wonderful thing about Tiggers, is that Tiggers are wonderful things."
Come to think of it, it's just as well they don't call themselves New Independent Group.
Even that is better than the current Conservative position of lets wreck the economy together by executing No Deal Brexit!
Is grey/charcoal/elephant's breath actually the Tiggers' official colour (as claimed by Wikipedia) or is it a placeholder? Millennial pink is available, might suit them.
Is Ian Dunt never not angry? Most Tories seem pretty happy today. I guess they're not the right people.
I am content with these developments. In some circumstances I could support TIGs but while brexit is the main cause of the conservative defections, the full on attack on Corbyn, his anti semitism and his hard left inner circle, is likely to damage labour and especially his group far more
I don't think Tigger is a serious name for a party! It sounds like something out of whinny the poo.
Something more like the British European Peoples party would be better!
I am more with the independents anyway than the Tories at the moment. I definitely don't like Corbyn. I can see NO Deal Brexit happening under the Tories and the damage it will do to the economy gathering pace.
Their campaign slogan would be "The wonderful thing about Tiggers, is that Tiggers are wonderful things."
Come to think of it, it's just as well they don't call themselves New Independent Group.
Until after the next election, when Dr Sarah Wollaston is singing
"But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers Is I'm the only one...."
I don't think Tigger is a serious name for a party! It sounds like something out of whinny the poo.
Something more like the British European Peoples party would be better!
I am more with the independents anyway than the Tories at the moment. I definitely don't like Corbyn. I can see NO Deal Brexit happening under the Tories and the damage it will do to the economy gathering pace.
Well it's not their real name, just a nickname I gave them on Monday morning, which caught on.
IF the answer is Ed Balls, its always the wrong question.. wasn't he the one who invented or at least subscribed to the footling neoclassical endogenous growth theory?
Is grey/charcoal/elephant's breath actually the Tiggers' official colour (as claimed by Wikipedia) or is it a placeholder? Millennial pink is available, might suit them.
A comment made by TM today at PMQ's seems to have been missed in all the noise but she clearly said it is a deal or no brexit.
I would not be at all surprised if the deal falls she will surprise everyone and call a referendum and in one act, defenestrate ERG, and check mate Corbyn
The political climate is highly charged but I do believe these last few days has seen the end of Corbyn becoming PM and if so, he has all been worthwhile
Can you point me to where May says that. I'm looking in the Hansard for today's PMQs and the nearest I can find is in reply to a question from Stephen Doughty near the beginning:
"First of all, the hon. Gentleman knows there are two ways in which it is possible to ensure that we do not see no deal. One is to stay in the European Union, which is not what the referendum result said, and the other is to agree a deal. What I am working on at the moment is taking the view of this House of Commons about the concerns on the backstop in the deal and working with Brussels to resolve that issue, such that this House will be able to agree a deal."
This is in the context of the question of how to avoid a no deal, where she later challenges Corbyn to say which of the two options is his policy. But she also says later that no deal is made more likely by Labour's opposition to the deal, so I don't think she said what you think she said.
Is grey/charcoal/elephant's breath actually the Tiggers' official colour (as claimed by Wikipedia) or is it a placeholder? Millennial pink is available, might suit them.
Is grey/charcoal/elephant's breath actually the Tiggers' official colour (as claimed by Wikipedia) or is it a placeholder? Millennial pink is available, might suit them.
Is grey/charcoal/elephant's breath actually the Tiggers' official colour (as claimed by Wikipedia) or is it a placeholder? Millennial pink is available, might suit them.
A comment made by TM today at PMQ's seems to have been missed in all the noise but she clearly said it is a deal or no brexit.
I would not be at all surprised if the deal falls she will surprise everyone and call a referendum and in one act, defenestrate ERG, and check mate Corbyn
The political climate is highly charged but I do believe these last few days has seen the end of Corbyn becoming PM and if so, he has all been worthwhile
Can you point me to where May says that. I'm looking in the Hansard for today's PMQs and the nearest I can find is in reply to a question from Stephen Doughty near the beginning:
"First of all, the hon. Gentleman knows there are two ways in which it is possible to ensure that we do not see no deal. One is to stay in the European Union, which is not what the referendum result said, and the other is to agree a deal. What I am working on at the moment is taking the view of this House of Commons about the concerns on the backstop in the deal and working with Brussels to resolve that issue, such that this House will be able to agree a deal."
This is in the context of the question of how to avoid a no deal, where she later challenges Corbyn to say which of the two options is his policy. But she also says later that no deal is made more likely by Labour's opposition to the deal, so I don't think she said what you think she said.
Yes but she did say to avoid a no deal it is the deal or remain.
It is the first time I have heard her actually say an option is to stay in the European Union
They should avoid any trap here. they're not a national party...yet.
Agreed. They should keep away, perhaps back the Labour candidate if s/he is a pro-European moderate.
As pointed out by @tissueprice below, she is Ruth Jones (not the one from Gavin and Stacey). Trade Unionist and candidate for Monmouth in 2015 and 17, so pre and post Corbyn. She also has the benefit of having been in place since January. Given that, a speedy dropping of the writ might be in order.
Is grey/charcoal/elephant's breath actually the Tiggers' official colour (as claimed by Wikipedia) or is it a placeholder? Millennial pink is available, might suit them.
Is Ian Dunt never not angry? Most Tories seem pretty happy today. I guess they're not the right people.
I am content with these developments. In some circumstances I could support TIGs but while brexit is the main cause of the conservative defections, the full on attack on Corbyn, his anti semitism and his hard left inner circle, is likely to damage labour and especially his group far more
I had you down a "PB Tory most likely to join the Tiggers".
I don't think Tigger is a serious name for a party! It sounds like something out of whinny the poo.
Something more like the British European Peoples party would be better!
I am more with the independents anyway than the Tories at the moment. I definitely don't like Corbyn. I can see NO Deal Brexit happening under the Tories and the damage it will do to the economy gathering pace.
Well it's not their real name, just a nickname I gave them on Monday morning, which caught on.
And remember, Tiggers bounce!
They may get themselves a name, but still be known by everyone as "the Tiggers".
This may be instructive about your Tigger - from Wiki:
Tigger "is very confident and has quite an ego, he often thinks of himself as being handsome, and some of his other comments suggest he has a high opinion of himself. Tigger is always filled with great energy and optimism, and though always well-meaning, he can also be mischievous, and his actions have sometimes led to chaos and trouble for himself and his friends. Also, he often undertakes tasks with gusto, only to later realize they were not as easy as he had originally imagined."
Is Ian Dunt never not angry? Most Tories seem pretty happy today. I guess they're not the right people.
I am content with these developments. In some circumstances I could support TIGs but while brexit is the main cause of the conservative defections, the full on attack on Corbyn, his anti semitism and his hard left inner circle, is likely to damage labour and especially his group far more
I had you down a "PB Tory most likely to join the Tiggers".
Is Ian Dunt never not angry? Most Tories seem pretty happy today. I guess they're not the right people.
I am content with these developments. In some circumstances I could support TIGs but while brexit is the main cause of the conservative defections, the full on attack on Corbyn, his anti semitism and his hard left inner circle, is likely to damage labour and especially his group far more
I had you down a "PB Tory most likely to join the Tiggers".
They should avoid any trap here. they're not a national party...yet.
Agreed. They should keep away, perhaps back the Labour candidate if s/he is a pro-European moderate.
As pointed out by @tissueprice below, she is Ruth Jones (not the one from Gavin and Stacey). Trade Unionist and candidate for Monmouth in 2015 and 17, so pre and post Corbyn. She also has the benefit of having been in place since January. Given that, a speedy dropping of the writ might be in order.
If Spain is ready to block UK visa-less access to Schengen over Gibraltar, what's their price for agreeing to an extension of A50 going to be? It seems to me that an extension to A50 is going to be essential to have enough Parliamentary time to legislate for either of May's WA or a no-deal exit. I have a feeling Remain/Revoke may just have become the only possible end-game. ¡Gracias señores!
Is grey/charcoal/elephant's breath actually the Tiggers' official colour (as claimed by Wikipedia) or is it a placeholder? Millennial pink is available, might suit them.
Is Ian Dunt never not angry? Most Tories seem pretty happy today. I guess they're not the right people.
I am content with these developments. In some circumstances I could support TIGs but while brexit is the main cause of the conservative defections, the full on attack on Corbyn, his anti semitism and his hard left inner circle, is likely to damage labour and especially his group far more
I had you down a "PB Tory most likely to join the Tiggers".
TSE, surely?
I think TSE is awaiting instructions from his Guiding Spirit at the Evening Standard.
They should avoid any trap here. they're not a national party...yet.
Unless of course, a senior figure absent from politics a while decided they wanted to throw their hat in the ring to help get the party going....
Ed Balls.
David Miliband
TIG are going to need a lot of luck and a lucky wind behind them. In the conventional sense of building a successful new party their chances are close to zero. Only if other events conspire with them favourably can their (noble and decent) stand change things for the good of them personally. A greater chance is that events, while ending the TIGs themselves politically, will enable others in different parties to take up a sort of mantle from them. Ask the gang of four, or in a different context, John Hume or David Trimble.
Ignore time sheets in testing. Remember the cars aren't scrutineered and can do all sorts of funny stuff with tyres, fuel, engines and other car setup.
What we do know is that Williams are late to the party, Renault need to fix a dodgy rear wing and that most cars are pretty reliable.
Is Ian Dunt never not angry? Most Tories seem pretty happy today. I guess they're not the right people.
I am content with these developments. In some circumstances I could support TIGs but while brexit is the main cause of the conservative defections, the full on attack on Corbyn, his anti semitism and his hard left inner circle, is likely to damage labour and especially his group far more
I had you down a "PB Tory most likely to join the Tiggers".
TSE, surely?
I think TSE is awaiting instructions from his Guiding Spirit at the Evening Standard.
Dave and Ken Clarke are my guiding spirits as well.
If a majority of those three are happy in the Tory party then so am I.
Plus I’m prepared to fight the good fight and slay the ERG dragon.
If TIG does stand could Con snatch this on a split Lab vote?
Or could TIG win
Anything's possible... But somehow it's hard for me to see a metropolitan multi-millionaire luvvie party like TIG doing well enough in an area like Newport to win a FPTP by election.
Now if we can get a by in metropolitan London borough or a university city TIG might get the win there...
They should avoid any trap here. they're not a national party...yet.
Agreed. They should keep away, perhaps back the Labour candidate if s/he is a pro-European moderate.
As pointed out by @tissueprice below, she is Ruth Jones (not the one from Gavin and Stacey). Trade Unionist and candidate for Monmouth in 2015 and 17, so pre and post Corbyn. She also has the benefit of having been in place since January. Given that, a speedy dropping of the writ might be in order.
Smae day as the local elections?
There are no local elections in Newport, so tough call. Do you go the same day, lose, and have that as the lead story? Or go earlier, lose, and have the narrative badly against you? And what do Tiggers do? Stand, lose with all the above results? To my mind they'd be better off backing one of the candidates coupon fashion.
One thing that’s handy for the TIG in the short term is that the political media consider themselves moderates, so happily describe the new group in the same way. The fact that they’re actually Elitist’s might hit home in a by election.
Is Ian Dunt never not angry? Most Tories seem pretty happy today. I guess they're not the right people.
I am content with these developments. In some circumstances I could support TIGs but while brexit is the main cause of the conservative defections, the full on attack on Corbyn, his anti semitism and his hard left inner circle, is likely to damage labour and especially his group far more
I had you down a "PB Tory most likely to join the Tiggers".
The TIGers aren't even eligible to stand yet, are they? They are not yet a registered political party and are, for now, a group of (to some extent) like-minded independents.
Their other problem is the SDP had some "names" outside Parliament to stand, and it's not yet clear who those are for the TIGers (Goldie Lookin' Chain are from Newport - has anyone checked out their position on the issues?)
I agree that they do need to meet an electoral test in order not to fizzle, but query whether they will in fact be ready for Newport - because I'd drop the writ pretty sharpish if I were Labour.
A comment made by TM today at PMQ's seems to have been missed in all the noise but she clearly said it is a deal or no brexit.
I would not be at all surprised if the deal falls she will surprise everyone and call a referendum and in one act, defenestrate ERG, and check mate Corbyn
The political climate is highly charged but I do believe these last few days has seen the end of Corbyn becoming PM and if so, he has all been worthwhile
Can you point me to where May says that. I'm looking in the Hansard for today's PMQs and the nearest I can find is in reply to a question from Stephen Doughty near the beginning:
"First of all, the hon. Gentleman knows there are two ways in which it is possible to ensure that we do not see no deal. One is to stay in the European Union, which is not what the referendum result said, and the other is to agree a deal. What I am working on at the moment is taking the view of this House of Commons about the concerns on the backstop in the deal and working with Brussels to resolve that issue, such that this House will be able to agree a deal."
This is in the context of the question of how to avoid a no deal, where she later challenges Corbyn to say which of the two options is his policy. But she also says later that no deal is made more likely by Labour's opposition to the deal, so I don't think she said what you think she said.
Yes but she did say to avoid a no deal it is the deal or remain.
It is the first time I have heard her actually say an option is to stay in the European Union
Right, but she's been very clear that her policy is to leave the EU on March 29th. She'd prefer to do so with a deal, but she's never said she won't leave without one if MPs continue to refuse to vote for a deal - and she still hasn't. She's used no Brexit as an alternative before.
Their other problem is the SDP had some "names" outside Parliament to stand, and it's not yet clear who those are for the TIGers (Goldie Lookin' Chain are from Newport - has anyone checked out their position on the issues?)
I beleive their issues are 'guns don't kill people, rappers do'.
Is grey/charcoal/elephant's breath actually the Tiggers' official colour (as claimed by Wikipedia) or is it a placeholder? Millennial pink is available, might suit them.
Mr. Slackbladder, much is made of that, but I wonder if a lack of 'names' matters now the same way it did then. There are fewer 'names' generally in politics, and we're at an interesting moment in political history, and the rise of the internet and social media has altered the way people and politics interact.
The SDP defectors made a serious miscalculation back in 1981 by failing to resign their seats to force by elections at a time the new party enjoyed great momentum and was surging in the polls. They also failed to contest the 1981 Local Elections. It is likely that most of the defectors would have retained their seats and been much better placed to win again in 1983. A late defector - Bruce Douglas-Mann - insisted on resubmitting himself to his electors in Mitcham & Morden, but his campaign was effectively torpedoed by the Falklands Conflict in May 1982. Had it not been for that sudden crisis, he almost certainly would have won. Success in such by elections would also boost the party's claim for reasonable campaign coverage by the Broadcasters - and potential inclusion in Debates etc.However, the original 7 Labour MPs who defected on Monday appeared to indicate they had no intention of recontesting their seats next time.
A comment made by TM today at PMQ's seems to have been missed in all the noise but she clearly said it is a deal or no brexit.
I would not be at all surprised if the deal falls she will surprise everyone and call a referendum and in one act, defenestrate ERG, and check mate Corbyn
The political climate is highly charged but I do believe these last few days has seen the end of Corbyn becoming PM and if so, he has all been worthwhile
Can you point me to where May says that. I'm looking in the Hansard for today's PMQs and the nearest I can find is in reply to a question from Stephen Doughty near the beginning:
"First of all, the hon. Gentleman knows there are two ways in which it is possible to ensure that we do not see no deal. One is to stay in the European Union, which is not what the referendum result said, and the other is to agree a deal. What I am working on at the moment is taking the view of this House of Commons about the concerns on the backstop in the deal and working with Brussels to resolve that issue, such that this House will be able to agree a deal."
This is in the context of the question of how to avoid a no deal, where she later challenges Corbyn to say which of the two options is his policy. But she also says later that no deal is made more likely by Labour's opposition to the deal, so I don't think she said what you think she said.
Yes but she did say to avoid a no deal it is the deal or remain.
It is the first time I have heard her actually say an option is to stay in the European Union
Right, but she's been very clear that her policy is to leave the EU on March 29th. She'd prefer to do so with a deal, but she's never said she won't leave without one if MPs continue to refuse to vote for a deal - and she still hasn't. She's used no Brexit as an alternative before.
I don't think we'll ever know what plan B is because TMs deal will go through. It goes through partly because of the risk of 'no deal'. If I am wrong - usually am - we won't know what plan B is until after the 59th minute of the 11th hour, at which point TM will tell us. No-one will know till then.
Emmanuel Macron is under renewed pressure after a senate committee recommended his former security aide Alexandre Benalla should be investigated for perjury and accused the French president’s office of “serious failings”
Is Ian Dunt never not angry? Most Tories seem pretty happy today. I guess they're not the right people.
I am content with these developments. In some circumstances I could support TIGs but while brexit is the main cause of the conservative defections, the full on attack on Corbyn, his anti semitism and his hard left inner circle, is likely to damage labour and especially his group far more
I had you down a "PB Tory most likely to join the Tiggers".
Me too. If they're doing what he likes, why won't he sign up?
Emmanuel Macron is under renewed pressure after a senate committee recommended his former security aide Alexandre Benalla should be investigated for perjury and accused the French president’s office of “serious failings”
Right, but she's been very clear that her policy is to leave the EU on March 29th. She'd prefer to do so with a deal, but she's never said she won't leave without one if MPs continue to refuse to vote for a deal - and she still hasn't. She's used no Brexit as an alternative before.
It's the first time I can remember her saying explicitly revoke Article 50
Barry Gardiner furious about Derek Hatton’s readmission to Labour. Confirms he's made a formal complaint to the general secretary and says it was "appalling" that the news broke on the day the seven MPs left.
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Maybe they should try to raise the money to hold an open primary to choose a candidate for the by-election? (Edit: This idea brought to you thanks to Chris Leslie's comments about it not being democratic for political party members to choose a leader - this implies that a larger electorate should choose the leader/candidates, and consequently a system of primaries)
A centralist is going to be hard to fight, a Momentum backed candidate with an embarrassing twitter feed on the other hand
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/17387647.ruth-jones-picked-as-labours-mp-candidate-for-the-third-time/
So do Labour go for that date and risk their defeat being the story of the night, or go earlier (April 11th?) and hope no-one notices among all the Brexit news?
But I wouldn't be surprised if they commission some private polling in the constituency just to test the water.
Maybe they could recruit Rhys aka P Xain from Goldie Lookin Chain as their candidate... he's ex-Labour. https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/14705799.goldie-lookin-chains-rhys-hutchings-quits-newports-labour-group/
FPT:
For the Lib Dems, as so often, May's locals are going to be crucial. If they do well (and as they'll be fighting seats last fought on General Election day 2015, they could hardly do worse), it'll put them in a much better position to negotiate with TIG.
A comment made by TM today at PMQ's seems to have been missed in all the noise but she clearly said it is a deal or no brexit.
I would not be at all surprised if the deal falls she will surprise everyone and call a referendum and in one act, defenestrate ERG, and check mate Corbyn
The political climate is highly charged but I do believe these last few days has seen the end of Corbyn becoming PM and if so, he has all been worthwhile
Both main parties seriously in the danger zone now.
Something more like the British European Peoples party would be better!
I am more with the independents anyway than the Tories at the moment. I definitely don't like Corbyn. I can see NO Deal Brexit happening under the Tories and the damage it will do to the economy gathering pace.
...But the truth is that we live in remarkable and fast changing times. The two main parties are both zombified and poisoned. The moment is primed for something to truly shake up the way this country does politics. This could be it.
https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1098258121775112193
Hitler was nice to his secretaries. And a vegetarian. That doesn't mean those are bad things just because a bad man approved of them. Stalin helped Kaganovic[sp] improve his literacy. Doesn't mean reading and writing fluently is evil.
The new party may well be a good thing, but The Bad People Being Angry isn't an argument in favour of that.
Far better to discuss policies and ideas than focusing on personal responses.
Come to think of it, it's just as well they don't call themselves New Independent Group.
I think you and Freggles are right - the Tiggers won't stand. They don't have a party, and I think they'll take setting one up quite slowly. But it depends on the polls and the pressure from the public.
https://goo.gl/images/Z6jDST
"But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is I'm the only one...."
And remember, Tiggers bounce!
"First of all, the hon. Gentleman knows there are two ways in which it is possible to ensure that we do not see no deal. One is to stay in the European Union, which is not what the referendum result said, and the other is to agree a deal. What I am working on at the moment is taking the view of this House of Commons about the concerns on the backstop in the deal and working with Brussels to resolve that issue, such that this House will be able to agree a deal."
This is in the context of the question of how to avoid a no deal, where she later challenges Corbyn to say which of the two options is his policy. But she also says later that no deal is made more likely by Labour's opposition to the deal, so I don't think she said what you think she said.
Dunno, you have been a proper mardy bum today, which gives us all great hope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umEkJxFsn58
It is the first time I have heard her actually say an option is to stay in the European Union
She also has the benefit of having been in place since January.
Given that, a speedy dropping of the writ might be in order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_West_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_1980s
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This may be instructive about your Tigger - from Wiki:
Tigger "is very confident and has quite an ego, he often thinks of himself as being handsome, and some of his other comments suggest he has a high opinion of himself. Tigger is always filled with great energy and optimism, and though always well-meaning, he can also be mischievous, and his actions have sometimes led to chaos and trouble for himself and his friends. Also, he often undertakes tasks with gusto, only to later realize they were not as easy as he had originally imagined."
More prophetic than you knew?
Although you do get some tigers that are just black and white. Not sure if that's a rare mutation, as per black panthers.
If Spain is ready to block UK visa-less access to Schengen over Gibraltar, what's their price for agreeing to an extension of A50 going to be? It seems to me that an extension to A50 is going to be essential to have enough Parliamentary time to legislate for either of May's WA or a no-deal exit. I have a feeling Remain/Revoke may just have become the only possible end-game. ¡Gracias señores!
Grrrrreat!
I am not persuaded by this.
What we do know is that Williams are late to the party, Renault need to fix a dodgy rear wing and that most cars are pretty reliable.
I assume then, that the constituency chairs will be selecting the conservative candidates for these seats fairly quickly
If a majority of those three are happy in the Tory party then so am I.
Plus I’m prepared to fight the good fight and slay the ERG dragon.
Now if we can get a by in metropolitan London borough or a university city TIG might get the win there...
And what do Tiggers do? Stand, lose with all the above results? To my mind they'd be better off backing one of the candidates coupon fashion.
I get tumescent at the prospect of privatisation.
Their other problem is the SDP had some "names" outside Parliament to stand, and it's not yet clear who those are for the TIGers (Goldie Lookin' Chain are from Newport - has anyone checked out their position on the issues?)
I agree that they do need to meet an electoral test in order not to fizzle, but query whether they will in fact be ready for Newport - because I'd drop the writ pretty sharpish if I were Labour.
Shamima Begum will not be allowed here, says Bangladesh.
Minister of foreign affairs insists 19-year-old does not have dual citizenship
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/20/rights-of-shamima-begums-son-not-affected-says-javid?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Owen Jones
Aaron Bastaini et al...
Which, I think we can all get behind.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2019-02-11/u-k-will-see-a-recession-in-next-12-months-says-ucl-professor-mazzucato-video
Plenty of time to do all that they're not even a political party yet.
Success in such by elections would also boost the party's claim for reasonable campaign coverage by the Broadcasters - and potential inclusion in Debates etc.However, the original 7 Labour MPs who defected on Monday appeared to indicate they had no intention of recontesting their seats next time.
Years of abuse from the fans of a country that has never won the Webb Ellis trophy has worn me down.
They used to get all sensitive when we sang ‘Land not quite of my fathers’ during the Graham Henry era.
It makes no sense.