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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    @Tissue_Price I bet there are plenty of Lords diehards to vote against relevant legislation, even if say Corbyn and May are in agreement over the WA heading through the Commons.
  • It's remarkable how often IT professionals can take something that's working perfectly well and then totally fuck it up in the name of "improvements", isn't it?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,500
    While sitting about waiting in the hospital for my pre-op assessment I found this: https://www.britishcouncil.org/organisation/policy-insight-research/defence-english-cooking

    Apparently George Orwell was commissioned by the British Council to write a piece on British Cookery in 1946. However when he submitted it they declined to use it as it was held to be "unwise to publish it for the continental reader"

    However, having read it twice now, I commend it to colleagues, especially the bon viveurs among us. There, I think, quite a few!
  • @Pulpstar I'd have thought that if (huge if) both Labour and Tory parties had agreed a position on the WA and whipped it through the Commons on a sizeable majority that'd be enough for that same whipping operation to get it through the Lords as well.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,500
    TheScreamingEagles wrote, @ 4:40PM
    Not only is Chris Grayling behind the upgrade of Vanilla, news reaches me that the writers and producers of season two of Westworld were also involved.

    No way was Grayling involved; it still works, albeit only after a fashion!
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    "It's remarkable how often IT professionals can take something that's working perfectly well and then totally fuck it up in the name of "improvements", isn't it?"


    Every IT upgrade in history has simultaneously succeeded in increasing complexity and reducing functionality, at least in one crucial respect or another.

    It's how the people who do all the IT upgrades keep themselves in work: fixing (usually very slowly and inefficiently) the problems that they have created in the first place. Quite ingenious, really.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    @OldKingCole If Grayling were responsible for the downgrade, most of the comments would never appear and those which did would arrive three hours late.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176
    @Black_Rook - Next you'll be telling us that Y2K was just a scam...
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,414
    edited February 2019
    Here is an overview of the necessary legislation
    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-legislation-list-factbox/factbox-what-brexit-legislation-does-britain-still-need-to-pass-before-eu-exit-idUKKCN1PW1FV
    Does anyone reckon that little lot will go through?
    I, for one, am delighted to see that Liam Fox is confident, and if not has "contingency plans".
  • My forecast - deal in March and extension agreed to 1st June to complete legislation
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164
    I take it the AV thread on Sunday is the Alternative Vanilla thread.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,500
    @Black Rook wrote:
    @OldKingCole If Grayling were responsible for the downgrade, most of the comments would never appear and those which did would arrive three hours late.


    Very true!
  • @OldKingCole Thanks for posting that George Orwell food review. That's rather good and pretty darn accurate! I enjoyed it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    edited February 2019
    @Casino_Royale I think it makes sense for everyone to treat say the 14th March as an absolute deadline for the Withdrawal Agreement, and then apply for the short extension after it is signed for the neccesary UK legislation.
    Edit: One smart card May and the EU might want to play between themselves is to have an extension granted in March, conditional upon the WA being passed by the House of Commons by the deadline.
    That heaps maximum pressure on the soft-remainers to pass the deal. There are plenty more of those than ERG in the HoC..
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,500
    @Casino Royale
    Took me back to my childhood with some of the food, too. Treacle tart with 'top of the milk' was a favourite
  • Growth across Europe's major economies set to be anaemic in the extreme, ranging from 0.2% (Italy) to 2.1% (Spain) according to the Commission.
  • Mr. NorthWales, brave to make an actual prediction.

    I'd thought the 11 December vote, which ended up being pulled, would've been lost, leading to a second referendum. Which shows my prophetic powers.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    First they take the emoticons, and we fall back... then they take the quote button, and we fall back... the line must be drawn here! this far, and no further!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,732
    @Casino_Royale - It's remarkable how often IT professionals can take something that's working perfectly well and then totally fuck it up in the name of "improvements", isn't it?

    Can't wait to see what improvements Brexit is going to make the country...
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,732
    @RobD - First they take the emoticons, and we fall back... then they take the quote button, and we fall back... the line must be drawn here! this far, and no further!

    This is where Sunil normally writes "Ни шагу назад!"
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,868
    @Casino_Royale yeah, we've just gone through a bout of that at work. Something that was just about passable has been axed in favour of something that may work well one day, was supposed to be a cost saving but I've heard deployment went vastly over budget. I'm sure the company that provides the new service will update their roadmap to remove the features we desired in the first place...
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,868
    @RobD what about ensign Sunil, you didn't even try to help him. Just blow up Vanilla!
  • My prediction:

    Nothing has changed.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1093560397637013507

    Corbyn and Red Team on the slide?
  • Vanilla Forums has been about as viable as the Malthouse Compromise today.

    What a hecking mess.
  • @OldKingCole I'm with you on that. Delicious!

    Orwell didn't live to see British cooking become rather good. Up until the early 1990s i'd say that'd have stayed pretty much bang on. But British cuisine has come on leaps and bounds in the last 20-25 years.

    His points on pubs are interesting too. Explains their precipitous decline. Virtually no men drunk in the home then (and they were virtually all men) and all went to the pub to drink. Now, almost everyone drinks at home and you go to most pubs for a drink or two and a meal, unless you're very lucky to live near a very good community /social wet pub that's still going.
  • The latest YouGov/ Times voting intention survey sees 41% of Britons saying they would vote Conservative (from 39% in our previous survey in mid-January) while 34% say they would back Labour (unchanged). Elsewhere, the Liberal Democrats are on 10% (from 11%) and votes for other parties stands at 16% (unchanged).

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/02/07/voting-intention-conservatives-41-labour-34-3-4-fe
  • Broken, sleazy Vanilla on the slide!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705
    Can I quote you on that @Sunil?
  • Did you know that Keir Starmer can deploy a magic spherical defensive shield from his forehead when he's under attack?

    Live footage: https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1093501481003700225
  • Also YouGov best pm.

    TM 40

    DN 39

    CORBYN 19 (not a misprint 19% )
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    Quick, restrain May before she goes out walking!
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,500
    @Casino Royale
    Indeed, and I agree about pubs. I remember, about 1955, being driven through industrial South Wales and remarking to my father (who came from that area) that there seemed very few of the off-licences that were beginning to proliferate in South Essex. 'It's because' he told me 'the wicked people who drink do it in pubs, not at home'.
    When I was at what is now Sunderland University a few years later it was rare to see a female in a pub, except the two or three that the students used, and then only in term time.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,138
    So France and Italy are going to go to war, huh? From this I conclude the following:

    * It will be the first war with two-hour lunch breaks.
    * The food will be fabulous...
    * ...as will be the uniforms
    * Many will die but the deaths will be depicted in the appropriate style, the French in Renaissance style with good use of colour and the Italians more baroque, with more vivid colours and composition. Both will have good command of chiaroscuro and be later exhibited.
    * The winner will be Germany
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,254
    I'm on a bus - top deck front seat.
    Is there anything better? Not sure there is.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,626
    new thread
  • @gypsumfantastic lol! That made me laugh.
  • NEW THREAD

  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,138
    RobD said:

    First they take the emoticons, and we fall back... then they take the quote button, and we fall back... the line must be drawn here! this far, and no further!

    Jean-Luc RobD
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    lol.


    i think Old King Cole might want to re-read what he wrote in his final paragraph!


    (Blushing face)

  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Any more polls like that Yougov and we're going to get another abysmal general election inflicted on us.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    May’s strategy is clear.

    Tell all MPs that they will be forced by statute to use Vanilla rather than WhatsApp unless they sign off the deal.

  • @OldKingCole All rings true. Methodism and the temperance movement were strong in South Wales, weren't they?

    Makes you wonder how men used to meet women, really. I've never been socially conservative about that sort of thing and refused to join two gentleman's clubs because of it. (not to make a feminist point, incidentally, but because I didn't want to spend £1,200 a year for the privilege of hanging round with a load of dull old farts on a Friday night without a single lady in sight.)
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    Only 19% of Labour voters think it was right to leave the EU in the latest YouGov .

    And yet clueless Corbyn thinks he should continue to ignore Remainers .
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,279
    Liking the Orwell piece...

    "They are also inclined to despise rabbits, and rabbit-rearing for the table has never been extensively practiced in Britain. On the other hand they will eat young rooks, which are shot in May and baked in pies...."

    "The fish fried in oil to which the British working classes are especially addicted is definitely nasty, and has been an enemy of home cookery, since it can be bought everywhere in the big towns, ready cooked and at low prices...."

    "The other main category of puddings – milk puddings – is the kind of thing that one would prefer to pass over in silence, but it must be mentioned, since these dishes are, unfortunately, characteristic of Britain. They are preparations of rice, semolina, barley, sago or even macaroni, mixed with milk and sugar and baked in the oven. The one made with barley is somewhat less bad then the others: the one made with macaroni is intolerable to any civilised palate...."
  • nico67 said:

    Only 19% of Labour voters think it was right to leave the EU in the latest YouGov .

    And yet clueless Corbyn thinks he should continue to ignore Remainers .

    Two different polls with conservative leads of 7% in the last week and today he torpedoes the second referendum, notwithstanding Starmer clinging on with non convincing statements it is still on the table.

    Lots of labour mps and members must be in turmoil as Corbyn facilltates leaving the EU
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502

    nico67 said:

    Only 19% of Labour voters think it was right to leave the EU in the latest YouGov .

    And yet clueless Corbyn thinks he should continue to ignore Remainers .

    Two different polls with conservative leads of 7% in the last week and today he torpedoes the second referendum, notwithstanding Starmer clinging on with non convincing statements it is still on the table.

    Lots of labour mps and members must be in turmoil as Corbyn facilltates leaving the EU
    Corbyns desperate attempt to please both sides is going to end in tears . Brexit is a right wing project and instead of making the case that a Tory Brexit will harm poorer communities he’s delusionally throwing Remainers under a bus . All the Labour talent bar Starmer is on the backbenches whilst the front bench is full of clueless Corbyn groupies !
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