It is ready to "beef up" the political declaration only in a more Remainy direction.
Otherwise, it will say the UK needs to decide what it wants.
Is it my imagination Or have I finally found something worth Brexiting for? I was looking for some action But all I found was cake and unicorns
Is it worth the aggravation To find yourself a deal when there's nothing worth Brexiting for? It's a crazy situation But all I need is cake and unicorns.
You could wait for a lifetime To spend your days in the sunshine You might as well do the white line Cos when it comes on top
You gotta make it happen
"Definitely Maybe" does pretty much sum up May's negotiating positions.
According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London.
Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time?
I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any half-arsed logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water.
The damage continues: EasyJet are transferring over 1,000 pilots, re-issuing 3,300 cabin crew licences and re-registering 133 aircraft from the UK to Austria, and are creating a second spare parts “hub” in the EU to limit exposure to any logistical supply chain risks between the EU and the UK.
No one of these moves by UK businesses is a big deal, but the cumulative effect across multiple industries is the most extraordinary self-inflicted wound, akin to imposing economic sanctions on ourselves.
Didn't they do that in 2017?
They registered the Austrian subsidiary a couple of years ago, now looks like they are starting to use it for internal EU flights eg. Paris-Rome.
I like the naivety of some who think another leader would by now have produced the perfect Brexit deal which the EU would have lovingly accepted without a murmur.
It's not the EU, murmuring or not, that has to accept the deal, it's parliament, the Tory Party, the Labour Party, the ERG, the DUP and all the no plan Brexiteers in their wee corner of hell. The EU has accepted 'the' deal.
The EU has compromised but the deal is unacceptable as you say to vast numbers of MPs. It is they who seem to think that the EU is bound to accept whatever they demand. May has made numerous errors but the biggest problem she has faced throughout is less an inability to negotiate but much more an impossible brief. For the Brexiteers to blame her for the debacle is ridiculous. She cannot produce the unicorns they demand and nor can anyone else.
According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London.
Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time?
I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water.
Turns out that, if you exclude the US, there's a surprisingly weak correlation between gun ownership and gun crime internationally.
Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans.
It is ready to "beef up" the political declaration only in a more Remainy direction.
Otherwise, it will say the UK needs to decide what it wants.
Is it my imagination Or have I finally found something worth Brexiting for? I was looking for some action But all I found was cake and unicorns
Is it worth the aggravation To find yourself a deal when there's nothing worth Brexiting for? It's a crazy situation But all I need is cake and unicorns.
You could wait for a lifetime To spend your days in the sunshine You might as well do the white line Cos when it comes on top
You gotta make it happen
"Definitely Maybe" does pretty much sum up May's negotiating positions.
Maybe an agreement is easier if we supply cigarettes and alcohol?
The great thing about Dan Hodges is that he is so consistently, reliably wrong with his predictions about Corbyn and Labour you can set your watch by the opposite of whatever he says the time is.
I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water.
It's the argument the USians always advance - that while they might have lots of gun murders, they are replacing stabbing deaths.
In reality, the US actually has something like 60% higher knife murders per capita than the UK, as well as 60x as many gun murders per capita.
According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London.
Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time?
I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water.
Turns out that, if you exclude the US, there's a surprisingly weak correlation between gun ownership and gun crime internationally.
Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans.
Are you saying guns don't kill people, rappers do?
According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London.
Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time?
I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water.
Turns out that, if you exclude the US, there's a surprisingly weak correlation between gun ownership and gun crime internationally.
Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans.
Aye, I think Canada has at least as high gun ownership as the US but obviously a fraction of the gun deaths. If the septics hadn't fetishised the 2nd Amendment, the frontier spirit, home defence & general gun toting manliness, they might be in with a chance of sorting it.
- The EU have repeatedly ruled out reopening the WA or changing the backstop, before she even arrived. - The Malthouse Compromise has blown itself apart amid accusations of betrayal and stitch-ups. - May hasn't a single proposal, either concrete or unicorn, to offer the EU.
She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
Anyone who would contemplate leaving Labour over a second-order issue like the EU isn't a Moderate, they're a fanatic.
Brexit is the most vital immediate issue facing the country at the moment, and one that will not be easily reversed either way. It is also synonymous with the way we view ourselves and our place in the world.
Anyone who would contemplate leaving Labour over a second-order issue like the EU isn't a Moderate, they're a fanatic.
Brexit is the most vital immediate issue facing the country at the moment, and one that will not be easily reversed either way. It is also synonymous with the way we view ourselves and our place in the world.
- The EU have repeatedly ruled out reopening the WA or changing the backstop, before she even arrived. - The Malthouse Compromise has blown itself apart amid accusations of betrayal and stitch-ups. - May hasn't a single proposal, either concrete or unicorn, to offer the EU.
She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
I assume when they actually have these meetings they're all just sitting silently playing Candy Crush while their staff get together to write up the official statements they'll make and things they'll leak afterwards
Clever from May if she has secured another extended period for continued 'talks' with the EU. Parliament can probably forget about that Valentine's Day vote.
And further delay would no surprise whatsoever. All that matters to our tough-as-teak PM is keeping the deal alive and in play. She calculates that if it is still there at the death, with MPs having failed to oust her and vote bindingly instead for BINO or revoke/referendum, then TINA rules and it passes.
Might not work (in which case general election) but then again it definitely maybe might. Certainly she has to follow this strategy. No point moaning and groaning at her. It makes perfect sense.
<blockquote class="Quote" rel="Sandpit"> Aircraft landing gear that's retractable should have pins placed in them when under maintainance on the ground, that physically stops them moving if someone screws up the hydraulics.
It's on the pilot checklist, that the pins are in the cockpit before they start up, and not still on the landing gear. They also have 3' red coloured steamers hanging from them, so that a pilot walking around the aircraft remembers to take them out.
(Yes, maintenance people have put their own pins in the gear before, without the streamers, leaving the aircraft's set in the cockpit just to screw with the pilots. Several commercial aircraft has taken off and had to come straight back because the gear wouldn't retract, thanks to some random gear pins that shouldn't have been there.)</blockquote>
------ urgh, borken quotes.
I guess they must have forgotten then ... :)
There's also an old - probably apocryphal - story about an Eastern European airbase during the Cold War. A row of planes were lined up, and a security guard accidentally bends the tube sticking out the front (pitot?). Since it looks different, he goes down the line of planes and bends all the others to look similar ...
Today's developments suggest that as long as TM can find a way of helping the Labour party not to have its hands too much in the gore she will get home and dry on the WA with either Labour assistance or (more likely) enough absence of non-assistance, which will be just as good.
People are forgetting all the time that to deliver abolition of FoM and also to keep big commerce, industry and agriculture more or less onside looks and seems impossible. She is not far off actually doing it. It's very messy and I would much prefer 'Norway for Now' but this will do.
It is tempting fate to wonder what happens to party politics afterwards...…..foresight fails.
> @gypsumfantastic said: > Serious question: > > What is the point of May's visit? > > - The EU have repeatedly ruled out reopening the WA or changing the backstop, before she even arrived. > - The Malthouse Compromise has blown itself apart amid accusations of betrayal and stitch-ups. > - May hasn't a single proposal, either concrete or unicorn, to offer the EU. > > She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
It is a show.
The EU has decided to sit back and let one side break. They do not care if that is the UK or Ireland. They just do not want to be the one that forces Ireland to back off if they do.
If it results in no deal they will say we defended our member it is the Brits fault, EU unity.
> @Theuniondivvie said: > Fatal stabbings at highest level since records began in 1946 > > https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47156957 > > According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London. > > Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time? > > I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water. > > Turns out that, if you exclude the US, there's a surprisingly weak correlation between gun ownership and gun crime internationally. > > Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans. > > Aye, I think Canada has at least as high gun ownership as the US but obviously a fraction of the gun deaths. If the septics hadn't fetishised the 2nd Amendment, the frontier spirit, home defence & general gun toting manliness, they might be in with a chance of sorting it. > > But they have, so they're fcuked.
A significant proportion of US gun death are suicides. They have the decency to use them to go and blow their brains out - rather than jump under a train and piss off 50,000 delayed commuters.
> @SandyRentool said: > AV KLAXON !!! > > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486405957926912 > > > > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486795856195585 > > > > Which form of AV - perhaps TSE could explain the various options available? > > Perfect for St Valentine's day - a romantic AV thread for two.
My 4 day romantic break begins on the 15th.
I might be persuaded to do an AV thread this Sunday.
> @TheScreamingEagles said: > > @SandyRentool said: > > AV KLAXON !!! > > > > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486405957926912 > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486795856195585 > > > > > > > > Which form of AV - perhaps TSE could explain the various options available? > > > > Perfect for St Valentine's day - a romantic AV thread for two. > > My 4 day romantic break begins on the 15th. > > I might be persuaded to do an AV thread this Sunday.
> @kinabalu said: > Clever from May if she has secured another extended period for continued 'talks' with the EU. Parliament can probably forget about that Valentine's Day vote. > > And further delay would no surprise whatsoever. All that matters to our tough-as-teak PM is keeping the deal alive and in play. She calculates that if it is still there at the death, with MPs having failed to oust her and vote bindingly instead for BINO or revoke/referendum, then TINA rules and it passes. > > Might not work (in which case general election) but then again it definitely maybe might. Certainly she has to follow this strategy. No point moaning and groaning at her. It makes perfect sense.
The DUP will crash her government onto the rocks before they let that happen.
Also, imagine that May somehow succeeds in using blackmail and market chaos to "win" a MV. She then has to get all the enabling legislation through the very same exhauted and furious Parliament that she'd just been turning the thumb screws on.
Winning the MV is only the first step. May then needs to deliver seven acts of Parliament. Without a majority.
> @kinabalu said: > Clever from May if she has secured another extended period for continued 'talks' with the EU. Parliament can probably forget about that Valentine's Day vote. > > And further delay would no surprise whatsoever. All that matters to our tough-as-teak PM is keeping the deal alive and in play. She calculates that if it is still there at the death, with MPs having failed to oust her and vote bindingly instead for BINO or revoke/referendum, then TINA rules and it passes. > > Might not work (in which case general election) but then again it definitely maybe might. Certainly she has to follow this strategy. No point moaning and groaning at her. It makes perfect sense.
The only think that is nor sense is a GE
It may happen later in the year but only when brexit is clearer.
Back from not as sunny as it might have been Glasgow. On the radio whilst driving I heard Owen Smith asked how he could remain a member of the Labour party and replying, "That's a very good question". He is giving it serious thought and suggested others are too. It would be frankly hilarious if Labour were the first party to split because of Brexit.
> @TheScreamingEagles said: > > @TheScreamingEagles said: > > > @SandyRentool said: > > > AV KLAXON !!! > > > > > > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486405957926912 > > > > > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486795856195585 > > > > > > > > > > > > Which form of AV - perhaps TSE could explain the various options available? > > > > > > Perfect for St Valentine's day - a romantic AV thread for two. > > > > My 4 day romantic break begins on the 15th. > > > > I might be persuaded to do an AV thread this Sunday. > > Oh holy feck sticks.
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The DUP will crash her government onto the rocks before they let May blackmail them into supporting her deal.
Also, imagine that May somehow succeeds in using blackmail and market chaos to "win" a MV. She then has to get all the enabling legislation through the very same exhauted and furious Parliament that she'd just been turning the thumb screws on.
Winning the MV is only the first step. May then needs to deliver seven acts of Parliament. Without a majority.
Sammy Wilson has just described the European Commission as a "cesspit, bubbling with hellfire". He added that Tusk "sucks worms from the devil's anus."
> @Stereotomy said: > https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1093485026115833856 > > > > So, guaranteed nothing will happen. > > Become?! > > +1 > > Never been relevant since Chicken Coup > > Is that an upcoming Pixar movie?
Nah a 2016 classic where Mike Gammon the friendly Pig and Toby the gentle Giraffe were under the misapprehension that 250 of the farm animals were more important than the other 500,000 animals.
They were soon brought to their senses and really should have left the farm altogether by now.
> @TheScreamingEagles said: > > @Stereotomy said: > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla? > > I've informed the powers that be.
But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial
> @Sean_F said: > Sammy Wilson has just described the European Commission as a "cesspit, bubbling with hellfire". He added that Tusk "sucks worms from the devil's anus."
Brexit has taken a weird turn. But I'm here for it.
<blockquote=@TheScreamingEagles> <blockquote=@Stereotomy> Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla? </blockquote> I've informed the powers that be.</blockquote>
> @TheScreamingEagles said: > > @Stereotomy said: > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla? > > I've informed the powers that be.
I have a very serious and heartfelt question for PBs who are both Tory and ardent Remainers, the likes of 'Screaming Eagles', 'Alastair Meeks', 'Topping, 'Nigel Formain' etc.
It is -
Assuming the hypothetical of a snap election pre-brexit - the Cons fighting under TM on her Deal - Labour under JC offering a dose of socialism but also a renegotiation with the EU followed by a Referendum (!) on their new Deal vs Remain -
How do you vote?
Does your desire to Remain in the EU trump your aversion to Red Jez as PM?
> @Stereotomy said: > > @TheScreamingEagles said: > > > @Stereotomy said: > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla? > > > > I've informed the powers that be. > > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial
Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free.
The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
- The EU have repeatedly ruled out reopening the WA or changing the backstop, before she even arrived. - The Malthouse Compromise has blown itself apart amid accusations of betrayal and stitch-ups. - May hasn't a single proposal, either concrete or unicorn, to offer the EU.
She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.</blockquote>
May could declutter her life, pace Kondo, by removing the Whip from ERG.
> @TheScreamingEagles said: > > @Stereotomy said: > > > @TheScreamingEagles said: > > > > @Stereotomy said: > > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla? > > > > > > I've informed the powers that be. > > > > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial > > Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free. > > The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
It all seems to be working for me. Google chrome on Mac.
> @Theuniondivvie said: > Fatal stabbings at highest level since records began in 1946 > > https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47156957 > > According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London. > > Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time? > > I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water. > > Turns out that, if you exclude the US, there's a surprisingly weak correlation between gun ownership and gun crime internationally. > > Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans. > > Aye, I think Canada has at least as high gun ownership as the US but obviously a fraction of the gun deaths. If the septics hadn't fetishised the 2nd Amendment, the frontier spirit, home defence & general gun toting manliness, they might be in with a chance of sorting it. > > But they have, so they're fcuked.
Canada's level of gun ownership is one third that of the US:
> @TheScreamingEagles said: > > @Stereotomy said: > > > @TheScreamingEagles said: > > > > @Stereotomy said: > > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla? > > > > > > I've informed the powers that be. > > > > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial > > Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free. > > The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
Turn off comments and tell everyone to take it to twitter.
> @TheScreamingEagles said: > > @Stereotomy said: > > > @TheScreamingEagles said: > > > > @Stereotomy said: > > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla? > > > > > > I've informed the powers that be. > > > > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial > > Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free. > > The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments. This new update appears to be doing precisely that.
> @kinabalu said: > I have a very serious and heartfelt question for PBs who are both Tory and ardent Remainers, the likes of 'Screaming Eagles', 'Alastair Meeks', 'Topping, 'Nigel Formain' etc. > > It is - > > Assuming the hypothetical of a snap election pre-brexit - the Cons fighting under TM on her Deal - Labour under JC offering a dose of socialism but also a renegotiation with the EU followed by a Referendum (!) on their new Deal vs Remain - > > How do you vote? > > Does your desire to Remain in the EU trump your aversion to Red Jez as PM?
How you gonna get Jezza to agree to that in his manifesto?
> @kinabalu said: > Clever from May if she has secured another extended period for continued 'talks' with the EU. Parliament can probably forget about that Valentine's Day vote. > > And further delay would no surprise whatsoever. All that matters to our tough-as-teak PM is keeping the deal alive and in play. She calculates that if it is still there at the death, with MPs having failed to oust her and vote bindingly instead for BINO or revoke/referendum, then TINA rules and it passes. > > Might not work (in which case general election) but then again it definitely maybe might. Certainly she has to follow this strategy. No point moaning and groaning at her. It makes perfect sense.
Quite right IMO. If there was a clear agreed alternative you could attack the present position, but from where we are - including TMs mistakes but many more from others - no one seems to be articulating a better position. If I am wrong and it doesn't get through, it's hard not to see a single issue GE coming, even though that won't resolve it.
> @TheScreamingEagles said: > > @Stereotomy said: > > > @TheScreamingEagles said: > > > > @Stereotomy said: > > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla? > > > > > > I've informed the powers that be. > > > > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial > > Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free. > > The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
> @rottenborough said: > > @TheScreamingEagles said: > > > @Stereotomy said: > > > > @TheScreamingEagles said: > > > > > @Stereotomy said: > > > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla? > > > > > > > > I've informed the powers that be. > > > > > > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial > > > > Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free. > > > > The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments. > > It all seems to be working for me. Google chrome on Mac.
@gypsumfantastic said: > She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
So one recent globalist development that will upset @CasinoRoyale when s/he works out the implications is that thanks to Netflix we finally have a single universal TV culture covering the entire broadband-connected globe.
> @edmundintokyo said: > @gypsumfantastic said: > > She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix. > > So one recent globalist development that will upset @CasinoRoyale when s/he works out the implications is that thanks to Netflix we finally have a single universal TV culture covering tge entire broadband-connected globe.
Does BREXIT spark joy? Is BREXIT something I want to take forwards with me in my life?
> @algarkirk said> Quite right IMO. If there was a clear agreed alternative you could attack the present position, but from where we are - including TMs mistakes but many more from others - no one seems to be articulating a better position. If I am wrong and it doesn't get through, it's hard not to see a single issue GE coming, even though that won't resolve it. > It COULD resolve it - depends on the outcome.
> @Charles said: > https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2193945#Comment_2193945 > The EU is busy saying no change > there is no point working up specific options until they accept that it’s change or no deal >
I think they have accepted that already, hence why the constant reiteration that Britain is the one that has to decide.
If it decides to No Deal, the EU can't stop us. But we have to make that choice.
> @rcs1000 said: > > @Theuniondivvie said: > > Fatal stabbings at highest level since records began in 1946 > > > > https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47156957 > > > > According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London. > > > > Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time? > > > > I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water. > > > > Turns out that, if you exclude the US, there's a surprisingly weak correlation between gun ownership and gun crime internationally. > > > > Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans. > > > > Aye, I think Canada has at least as high gun ownership as the US but obviously a fraction of the gun deaths. If the septics hadn't fetishised the 2nd Amendment, the frontier spirit, home defence & general gun toting manliness, they might be in with a chance of sorting it. > > > > But they have, so they're fcuked. > > Canada's level of gun ownership is one third that of the US: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
Hmm, I have a very pro gun Canadian pal who during a 'debate' on the subject offered Canada's similar levels of gun ownership as proof that guns were not bad per se. I shall have to be less trusting.
I note that they have about a 6th of the gun deaths (proportionally) though, so obviously there is a different culture.
> @kinabalu said: > > @algarkirk said> Quite right IMO. If there was a clear agreed alternative you could attack the present position, but from where we are - including TMs mistakes but many more from others - no one seems to be articulating a better position. If I am wrong and it doesn't get through, it's hard not to see a single issue GE coming, even though that won't resolve it. > > > It COULD resolve it - depends on the outcome.
Given the current electoral landscape, Labour's only route to a majority is via the SNP and Lib Dems. Cannot see them rowing behind a Lexiteer unicorn, somehow.
<blockquote>@TheScreamingEagles said: The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.</blockquote>
Absolutely correct. Disqus enforced threading, and it made the site rubbish.
Vanilla is - I think - a small organization, and they occasionally f*ck up updates. But, by and large, they're pretty good.
> @edmundintokyo said: > @gypsumfantastic said: > > She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix. > > So one recent globalist development that will upset @CasinoRoyale when s/he works out the implications is that thanks to Netflix we finally have a single universal TV culture covering the entire broadband-connected globe.
He will just continue to watch episodes of Mind Your Language on his 18" Pye TV with pride.
> @gypsumfantastic said: > Vanilla is acting the spaz again. > > `JSON could not be converted into quill operations.` > > The DUP will crash her government onto the rocks before they let May blackmail them into supporting her deal. > > Also, imagine that May somehow succeeds in using blackmail and market chaos to "win" a MV. She then has to get all the enabling legislation through the very same exhauted and furious Parliament that she'd just been turning the thumb screws on. > > Winning the MV is only the first step. May then needs to deliver seven acts of Parliament. Without a majority.
"acting the spaz". Seriously !!!!
Do you know how offensive that is to UKIP supporters.
> @rcs1000 said: > <blockquote>@TheScreamingEagles said: > The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.</blockquote> > > Absolutely correct. Disqus enforced threading, and it made the site rubbish. > > Vanilla is - I think - a small organization, and they occasionally f*ck up updates. But, by and large, they're pretty good.
I have been happy with it on here, other than the odd occasion when they screw up an update.
But who amongst us can say they've never done that?
> @kinabalu said: > > @rottenborough said> How you gonna get Jezza to agree to that in his manifesto? > > By telling him that if he does it he is going to be the next PM.
Surely the opposite statement i.e. he wont be the next PM would be more effective.
> @gypsumfantastic said: > > @edmundintokyo said: > > @gypsumfantastic said: > > > She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix. > > > > So one recent globalist development that will upset @CasinoRoyale when s/he works out the implications is that thanks to Netflix we finally have a single universal TV culture covering tge entire broadband-connected globe. > > Does BREXIT spark joy? Is BREXIT something I want to take forwards with me in my life?
What do you want to do with Brexit? Vote only once by putting a cross [ x ] next to your choice. [ ] Keep it [ ] Thank it, then discard it
@kinabalu I'm neither a Tory nor an ardent Remainer. I would vote Deal in a referendum between Remain and Deal. I would abstain in a referendum between Remain and No Deal.
Britain is in a terrible terrible place right now. There are no good options from here.
> @SandyRentool said: > https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1093485026115833856 > > > > So, guaranteed nothing will happen. > > Anyone who would contemplate leaving Labour over a second-order issue like the EU isn't a Moderate, they're a fanatic.
Correct. What's more, they're an electorally doomed fanatic. People who think that (a) Remain is right (2) no compromise is worth considering (3) Labour even offering a compromise is so horrific that they must resign are a subset of a subset of a subset.
On the upside, they may get to be led by Owen Smith.
Comments
Beyond parody now.
https://twitter.com/nick_gutteridge/status/1093483825286516737
That should liven things up a little.
`WHO ARE THE REAL ${BAD_PEOPLE}?
IS IT THE ${BAD_PEOPLE} OR THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE ${BAD_PEOPLE}?`
Normaility is resumed.
Bit higher than the growth forecasts for Germany - govt would take that in a heartbeat.
So, guaranteed nothing will happen.
Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans.
"India man to sue parents for giving birth to him"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-47154287
Not that I would litigate, but I agree with some of his sentiments.
Never been relevant since Chicken Coup
It's the argument the USians always advance - that while they might have lots of gun murders, they are replacing stabbing deaths.
In reality, the US actually has something like 60% higher knife murders per capita than the UK, as well as 60x as many gun murders per capita.
Can we sue god?
https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486405957926912
https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486795856195585
#FBPE types have lost all perspective.
If London were in the US, it would not be in the top 250 most violent US cities.
But they have, so they're fcuked.
What is the point of May's visit?
- The EU have repeatedly ruled out reopening the WA or changing the backstop, before she even arrived.
- The Malthouse Compromise has blown itself apart amid accusations of betrayal and stitch-ups.
- May hasn't a single proposal, either concrete or unicorn, to offer the EU.
She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
And it's a mess. Sadly.
And further delay would no surprise whatsoever. All that matters to our tough-as-teak PM is keeping the deal alive and in play. She calculates that if it is still there at the death, with MPs having failed to oust her and vote bindingly instead for BINO or revoke/referendum, then TINA rules and it passes.
Might not work (in which case general election) but then again it definitely maybe might. Certainly she has to follow this strategy. No point moaning and groaning at her. It makes perfect sense.
Aircraft landing gear that's retractable should have pins placed in them when under maintainance on the ground, that physically stops them moving if someone screws up the hydraulics.
It's on the pilot checklist, that the pins are in the cockpit before they start up, and not still on the landing gear. They also have 3' red coloured steamers hanging from them, so that a pilot walking around the aircraft remembers to take them out.
(Yes, maintenance people have put their own pins in the gear before, without the streamers, leaving the aircraft's set in the cockpit just to screw with the pilots. Several commercial aircraft has taken off and had to come straight back because the gear wouldn't retract, thanks to some random gear pins that shouldn't have been there.)</blockquote>
------ urgh, borken quotes.
I guess they must have forgotten then ... :)
There's also an old - probably apocryphal - story about an Eastern European airbase during the Cold War. A row of planes were lined up, and a security guard accidentally bends the tube sticking out the front (pitot?). Since it looks different, he goes down the line of planes and bends all the others to look similar ...
https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486405957926912
https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486795856195585
</blockquote>
[In Reply To Scott P Tweet]
Will be very interesting to see just how much "support" there really is for a second referendum in Parlaiment.
If this crashes and burns might we *finally* have a end to this year of neverending "People's Vote" bullshit?
People are forgetting all the time that to deliver abolition of FoM and also to keep big commerce, industry and agriculture more or less onside looks and seems impossible. She is not far off actually doing it. It's very messy and I would much prefer 'Norway for Now' but this will do.
It is tempting fate to wonder what happens to party politics afterwards...…..foresight fails.
> Serious question:
>
> What is the point of May's visit?
>
> - The EU have repeatedly ruled out reopening the WA or changing the backstop, before she even arrived.
> - The Malthouse Compromise has blown itself apart amid accusations of betrayal and stitch-ups.
> - May hasn't a single proposal, either concrete or unicorn, to offer the EU.
>
> She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
It is a show.
The EU has decided to sit back and let one side break. They do not care if that is the UK or Ireland. They just do not want to be the one that forces Ireland to back off if they do.
If it results in no deal they will say we defended our member it is the Brits fault, EU unity.
> Fatal stabbings at highest level since records began in 1946
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47156957
>
> According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London.
>
> Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time?
>
> I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water.
>
> Turns out that, if you exclude the US, there's a surprisingly weak correlation between gun ownership and gun crime internationally.
>
> Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans.
>
> Aye, I think Canada has at least as high gun ownership as the US but obviously a fraction of the gun deaths. If the septics hadn't fetishised the 2nd Amendment, the frontier spirit, home defence & general gun toting manliness, they might be in with a chance of sorting it.
>
> But they have, so they're fcuked.
A significant proportion of US gun death are suicides. They have the decency to use them to go and blow their brains out - rather than jump under a train and piss off 50,000 delayed commuters.
> AV KLAXON !!!
>
> https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486405957926912
>
>
>
> https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486795856195585
>
>
>
> Which form of AV - perhaps TSE could explain the various options available?
>
> Perfect for St Valentine's day - a romantic AV thread for two.
My 4 day romantic break begins on the 15th.
I might be persuaded to do an AV thread this Sunday.
> > @SandyRentool said:
> > AV KLAXON !!!
> >
> > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486405957926912
> >
> >
> >
> > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486795856195585
> >
> >
> >
> > Which form of AV - perhaps TSE could explain the various options available?
> >
> > Perfect for St Valentine's day - a romantic AV thread for two.
>
> My 4 day romantic break begins on the 15th.
>
> I might be persuaded to do an AV thread this Sunday.
Oh holy feck sticks.
> Clever from May if she has secured another extended period for continued 'talks' with the EU. Parliament can probably forget about that Valentine's Day vote.
>
> And further delay would no surprise whatsoever. All that matters to our tough-as-teak PM is keeping the deal alive and in play. She calculates that if it is still there at the death, with MPs having failed to oust her and vote bindingly instead for BINO or revoke/referendum, then TINA rules and it passes.
>
> Might not work (in which case general election) but then again it definitely maybe might. Certainly she has to follow this strategy. No point moaning and groaning at her. It makes perfect sense.
The DUP will crash her government onto the rocks before they let that happen.
Also, imagine that May somehow succeeds in using blackmail and market chaos to "win" a MV. She then has to get all the enabling legislation through the very same exhauted and furious Parliament that she'd just been turning the thumb screws on.
Winning the MV is only the first step. May then needs to deliver seven acts of Parliament. Without a majority.
> Clever from May if she has secured another extended period for continued 'talks' with the EU. Parliament can probably forget about that Valentine's Day vote.
>
> And further delay would no surprise whatsoever. All that matters to our tough-as-teak PM is keeping the deal alive and in play. She calculates that if it is still there at the death, with MPs having failed to oust her and vote bindingly instead for BINO or revoke/referendum, then TINA rules and it passes.
>
> Might not work (in which case general election) but then again it definitely maybe might. Certainly she has to follow this strategy. No point moaning and groaning at her. It makes perfect sense.
The only think that is nor sense is a GE
It may happen later in the year but only when brexit is clearer.
> > @TheScreamingEagles said:
> > > @SandyRentool said:
> > > AV KLAXON !!!
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486405957926912
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/1093486795856195585
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Which form of AV - perhaps TSE could explain the various options available?
> > >
> > > Perfect for St Valentine's day - a romantic AV thread for two.
> >
> > My 4 day romantic break begins on the 15th.
> >
> > I might be persuaded to do an AV thread this Sunday.
>
> Oh holy feck sticks.
Bugger
She gets to have lunch with Guy Verhofstadt - That honour is worth the euro star train fare alone...
`JSON could not be converted into quill operations.`
The DUP will crash her government onto the rocks before they let May blackmail them into supporting her deal.
Also, imagine that May somehow succeeds in using blackmail and market chaos to "win" a MV. She then has to get all the enabling legislation through the very same exhauted and furious Parliament that she'd just been turning the thumb screws on.
Winning the MV is only the first step. May then needs to deliver seven acts of Parliament. Without a majority.
> Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
I've informed the powers that be.
> https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1093485026115833856
>
>
>
> So, guaranteed nothing will happen.
>
> Become?!
>
> +1
>
> Never been relevant since Chicken Coup
>
> Is that an upcoming Pixar movie?
Nah a 2016 classic where Mike Gammon the friendly Pig and Toby the gentle Giraffe were under the misapprehension that 250 of the farm animals were more important than the other 500,000 animals.
They were soon brought to their senses and really should have left the farm altogether by now.
> > @Stereotomy said:
> > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
>
> I've informed the powers that be.
But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial
> Sammy Wilson has just described the European Commission as a "cesspit, bubbling with hellfire". He added that Tusk "sucks worms from the devil's anus."
Brexit has taken a weird turn. But I'm here for it.
<blockquote=@Stereotomy>
Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
</blockquote>
I've informed the powers that be.</blockquote>
The die the blockquote died
> > @Stereotomy said:
> > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
>
> I've informed the powers that be.
Who's the nerd scapegoat? Smithson Junior?
It is -
Assuming the hypothetical of a snap election pre-brexit - the Cons fighting under TM on her Deal - Labour under JC offering a dose of socialism but also a renegotiation with the EU followed by a Referendum (!) on their new Deal vs Remain -
How do you vote?
Does your desire to Remain in the EU trump your aversion to Red Jez as PM?
> > @TheScreamingEagles said:
> > > @Stereotomy said:
> > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
> >
> > I've informed the powers that be.
>
> But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial
Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free.
The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
What is the point of May's visit?
- The EU have repeatedly ruled out reopening the WA or changing the backstop, before she even arrived.
- The Malthouse Compromise has blown itself apart amid accusations of betrayal and stitch-ups.
- May hasn't a single proposal, either concrete or unicorn, to offer the EU.
She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.</blockquote>
May could declutter her life, pace Kondo, by removing the Whip from ERG.
https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2194066#Comment_2194066I'm in I'm finding it hugely awkward to post.
> > @Stereotomy said:
> > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
> > > > @Stereotomy said:
> > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
> > >
> > > I've informed the powers that be.
> >
> > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial
>
> Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free.
>
> The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
It all seems to be working for me. Google chrome on Mac.
> Fatal stabbings at highest level since records began in 1946
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47156957
>
> According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London.
>
> Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time?
>
> I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water.
>
> Turns out that, if you exclude the US, there's a surprisingly weak correlation between gun ownership and gun crime internationally.
>
> Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans.
>
> Aye, I think Canada has at least as high gun ownership as the US but obviously a fraction of the gun deaths. If the septics hadn't fetishised the 2nd Amendment, the frontier spirit, home defence & general gun toting manliness, they might be in with a chance of sorting it.
>
> But they have, so they're fcuked.
Canada's level of gun ownership is one third that of the US:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
> > @Stereotomy said:
> > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
> > > > @Stereotomy said:
> > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
> > >
> > > I've informed the powers that be.
> >
> > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial
>
> Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free.
>
> The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
Turn off comments and tell everyone to take it to twitter.
> It would seem to be very unlikely to be selected, since it will be opposed by Labour and the government.
Maybe a month too early. If we're still in stalemate six weeks from now, perhaps both might be willing to go for a 3-way referendum.
> > @Stereotomy said:
> > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
> > > > @Stereotomy said:
> > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
> > >
> > > I've informed the powers that be.
> >
> > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial
>
> Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free.
>
> The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
This new update appears to be doing precisely that.
> I have a very serious and heartfelt question for PBs who are both Tory and ardent Remainers, the likes of 'Screaming Eagles', 'Alastair Meeks', 'Topping, 'Nigel Formain' etc.
>
> It is -
>
> Assuming the hypothetical of a snap election pre-brexit - the Cons fighting under TM on her Deal - Labour under JC offering a dose of socialism but also a renegotiation with the EU followed by a Referendum (!) on their new Deal vs Remain -
>
> How do you vote?
>
> Does your desire to Remain in the EU trump your aversion to Red Jez as PM?
How you gonna get Jezza to agree to that in his manifesto?
> Clever from May if she has secured another extended period for continued 'talks' with the EU. Parliament can probably forget about that Valentine's Day vote.
>
> And further delay would no surprise whatsoever. All that matters to our tough-as-teak PM is keeping the deal alive and in play. She calculates that if it is still there at the death, with MPs having failed to oust her and vote bindingly instead for BINO or revoke/referendum, then TINA rules and it passes.
>
> Might not work (in which case general election) but then again it definitely maybe might. Certainly she has to follow this strategy. No point moaning and groaning at her. It makes perfect sense.
Quite right IMO. If there was a clear agreed alternative you could attack the present position, but from where we are - including TMs mistakes but many more from others - no one seems to be articulating a better position. If I am wrong and it doesn't get through, it's hard not to see a single issue GE coming, even though that won't resolve it.
> > @Stereotomy said:
> > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
> > > > @Stereotomy said:
> > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
> > >
> > > I've informed the powers that be.
> >
> > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial
>
> Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free.
>
> The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
Ah, I see, that does make sense.
> > @TheScreamingEagles said:
> > > @Stereotomy said:
> > > > @TheScreamingEagles said:
> > > > > @Stereotomy said:
> > > > > Any chance of Mike starting a Patreon for this site and using the proceeds to pay for a better alternative to vanilla?
> > > >
> > > > I've informed the powers that be.
> > >
> > > But vanilla being crap isn't new information, right? I assumed the reason we're stuck with it is financial
> >
> > Vanilla is very expensive, DISQUS was free.
> >
> > The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.
>
> It all seems to be working for me. Google chrome on Mac.
Hmm. No longer working. I spoke too soon.
> She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
So one recent globalist development that will upset @CasinoRoyale when s/he works out the implications is that thanks to Netflix we finally have a single universal TV culture covering the entire broadband-connected globe.
> Hey guys, sorry about Vanilla. I'll hassle them now and see what's going on...
Whomever did this upgrade at vanilla clearly likes pineapple on their pizzas.
> @gypsumfantastic said:
> > She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
>
> So one recent globalist development that will upset @CasinoRoyale when s/he works out the implications is that thanks to Netflix we finally have a single universal TV culture covering tge entire broadband-connected globe.
Does BREXIT spark joy? Is BREXIT something I want to take forwards with me in my life?
https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2193945#Comment_2193945The EU is busy saying no change
there is no point working up specific options until they accept that it’s change or no deal
By telling him that if he does it he is going to be the next PM.
> BLAT.
Test.
>
It COULD resolve it - depends on the outcome.
> https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2193945#Comment_2193945
> The EU is busy saying no change
> there is no point working up specific options until they accept that it’s change or no deal
>
I think they have accepted that already, hence why the constant reiteration that Britain is the one that has to decide.
If it decides to No Deal, the EU can't stop us. But we have to make that choice.
> > @Theuniondivvie said:
> > Fatal stabbings at highest level since records began in 1946
> >
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47156957
> >
> > According to the stats presented, you are more likely to be murdered in the ghetto of North Warwickshire than London.
> >
> > Isn't the fact that gangsters are stabbing each other a good thing, because it shows that obtaining guns is too difficult to be worth the effort most of the time?
> >
> > I recall a 'Libertarian' Gibraltarian on here proposing that liberalised gun laws in the UK would reduce violent deaths. Unfortunately I can't remember if there was any logic offered for his thesis or he just felt it in his water.
> >
> > Turns out that, if you exclude the US, there's a surprisingly weak correlation between gun ownership and gun crime internationally.
> >
> > Conclusion: the biggest problem with gun crime in the US isn't guns, it's Americans.
> >
> > Aye, I think Canada has at least as high gun ownership as the US but obviously a fraction of the gun deaths. If the septics hadn't fetishised the 2nd Amendment, the frontier spirit, home defence & general gun toting manliness, they might be in with a chance of sorting it.
> >
> > But they have, so they're fcuked.
>
> Canada's level of gun ownership is one third that of the US:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
Hmm, I have a very pro gun Canadian pal who during a 'debate' on the subject offered Canada's similar levels of gun ownership as proof that guns were not bad per se. I shall have to be less trusting.
I note that they have about a 6th of the gun deaths (proportionally) though, so obviously there is a different culture.
> > @algarkirk said> Quite right IMO. If there was a clear agreed alternative you could attack the present position, but from where we are - including TMs mistakes but many more from others - no one seems to be articulating a better position. If I am wrong and it doesn't get through, it's hard not to see a single issue GE coming, even though that won't resolve it.
> >
> It COULD resolve it - depends on the outcome.
Given the current electoral landscape, Labour's only route to a majority is via the SNP and Lib Dems. Cannot see them rowing behind a Lexiteer unicorn, somehow.
The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.</blockquote>
Absolutely correct. Disqus enforced threading, and it made the site rubbish.
Vanilla is - I think - a small organization, and they occasionally f*ck up updates. But, by and large, they're pretty good.
> I like the old-school quoting, it's like email before they added the htmls
Well, Jezza is planning to take us all back to the 1970s.
> @gypsumfantastic said:
> > She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
>
> So one recent globalist development that will upset @CasinoRoyale when s/he works out the implications is that thanks to Netflix we finally have a single universal TV culture covering the entire broadband-connected globe.
He will just continue to watch episodes of Mind Your Language on his 18" Pye TV with pride.
> Vanilla is acting the spaz again.
>
> `JSON could not be converted into quill operations.`
>
> The DUP will crash her government onto the rocks before they let May blackmail them into supporting her deal.
>
> Also, imagine that May somehow succeeds in using blackmail and market chaos to "win" a MV. She then has to get all the enabling legislation through the very same exhauted and furious Parliament that she'd just been turning the thumb screws on.
>
> Winning the MV is only the first step. May then needs to deliver seven acts of Parliament. Without a majority.
"acting the spaz". Seriously !!!!
Do you know how offensive that is to UKIP supporters.
> <blockquote>@TheScreamingEagles said:
> The main attraction of Vanilla is that it is one of the few commenting platforms that doesn't insist on nested comments.</blockquote>
>
> Absolutely correct. Disqus enforced threading, and it made the site rubbish.
>
> Vanilla is - I think - a small organization, and they occasionally f*ck up updates. But, by and large, they're pretty good.
I have been happy with it on here, other than the odd occasion when they screw up an update.
But who amongst us can say they've never done that?
> > @rottenborough said> How you gonna get Jezza to agree to that in his manifesto?
>
> By telling him that if he does it he is going to be the next PM.
Surely the opposite statement i.e. he wont be the next PM would be more effective.
> > @edmundintokyo said:
> > @gypsumfantastic said:
> > > She'd have been better off staying in bed and binge watching Marie Kondo on Netflix.
> >
> > So one recent globalist development that will upset @CasinoRoyale when s/he works out the implications is that thanks to Netflix we finally have a single universal TV culture covering tge entire broadband-connected globe.
>
> Does BREXIT spark joy? Is BREXIT something I want to take forwards with me in my life?
What do you want to do with Brexit? Vote only once by putting a cross [ x ] next to your choice.
[ ] Keep it
[ ] Thank it, then discard it
Britain is in a terrible terrible place right now. There are no good options from here.
> https://twitter.com/StewartWood/status/1093492764581478400
Stewart who
> https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1093485026115833856
>
>
>
> So, guaranteed nothing will happen.
>
> Anyone who would contemplate leaving Labour over a second-order issue like the EU isn't a Moderate, they're a fanatic.
Correct. What's more, they're an electorally doomed fanatic. People who think that (a) Remain is right (2) no compromise is worth considering (3) Labour even offering a compromise is so horrific that they must resign are a subset of a subset of a subset.
On the upside, they may get to be led by Owen Smith.