Mike Gapes, a former chairman of the Commons foreign affairs committee, told fellow Labour MPs: “I am not prepared to support the racist antisemite. Period. It’s over for me.”.....
Other interesting snippet from the Times - the 'Zionist' (who as it happens is Jewish) Corbyn was referring to was Richard Millett, whose family arrived over 100 years ago and whose father founded Milletts clothing chain.
For the love of God, it is time for these MPs to take a stand.
The only stand they can take is a coordinated mass resignation that leads to the creation of a new party.
There are enough Labour MPs who voted for the No Confidence motion to rip the title of LOTO from Corbyn's hands.
Would the unions follow? A good number would. Yes, it would be painful. But it would be far better than the current situation.
Our systems needs proper opposition parties with leaderships who are not compromised.
They could keep their heads down and:
a) Hope Lab lose
b) if Lab win, refuse to provide the confidence of the House required for Jezza to be PM (in which case we have a major constitutional crisis).
I think that many are keeping quiet until Brexit is done in March,
Get the pain started now - rip that plaster off. Regroup under a new name. Campaign for modern Labour values of social democracy and for better government.
Given Mrs May and the Tories are unlikely to want to go to the country before 2022, the sooner, the better, if you believe that will provide a solution.
PLP 'Steadiness under fire' is looking more and more like 'frozen in the headlights'.
Mike Gapes, a former chairman of the Commons foreign affairs committee, told fellow Labour MPs: “I am not prepared to support the racist antisemite. Period. It’s over for me.”.....
Other interesting snippet from the Times - the 'Zionist' (who as it happens is Jewish) Corbyn was referring to was Richard Millett, whose family arrived over 100 years ago and whose father founded Milletts clothing chain.
For the love of God, it is time for these MPs to take a stand.
The only stand they can take is a coordinated mass resignation that leads to the creation of a new party.
There are enough Labour MPs who voted for the No Confidence motion to rip the title of LOTO from Corbyn's hands.
Would the unions follow? A good number would. Yes, it would be painful. But it would be far better than the current situation.
Our systems needs proper opposition parties with leaderships who are not compromised.
They could keep their heads down and:
a) Hope Lab lose
b) if Lab win, refuse to provide the confidence of the House required for Jezza to be PM (in which case we have a major constitutional crisis).
I think that many are keeping quiet until Brexit is done in March,
a) Labour losing is no guarantee that Corbyn goes. The excuse will be that the establishment conspired to stop him winning and so we have to continue to fight for what we believe in. And by that stage, the changes to the rules etc will mean that regaining control for the realist wing of the party would be nigh on impossible.
b) This would be the most entertaining piece of political theatre - but it would be an almighty mess. And they would have stood under a Corbyn platform and be tainted by having endorsed him in public. Crossing your fingers behind your back doesn't count.
Get the pain started now - rip that plaster off. Regroup under a new name. Campaign for modern Labour values of social democracy and for better government.
It would be open, honest and laudable.
I think Jezza losing means he goes. A similar figure may replace him, and so your point still works. But given his age and the 7 or 8 years he will have been leader. A loss is the end for him.
A clear loss in a couple of years time and he would probably go IMO. I don't think the party would shift back rightwards after Corbyn though, not to any dramatic degree.
Since the United Kingdom chose to leave the EU, a new consensus has emerged amongst Tokyo-based policymakers, such as members of Japan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and those close to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, myself included. Call it the 'Tokyo Consensus'. It assumes that, as far as Japan’s national interest is concerned, Brexit may well turn out to be a blessing in disguise. The benefits of Brexit for Japan, which are largely geopolitical, could offset its costs, which are mostly economic. This assumption appears to be shared internationally. Conversations with diplomats and visitors from Australia, New Zealand, India and the US, amongst others, have given me a sense that the 'Tokyo Consensus' may have a wider, Indo-Pacific, application.
The reasoning behind the Tokyo Consensus goes as follows: Post-Brexit Britain will no longer be able to identify with Europe in the way it did pre-Brexit. A soul-searching Britain will instead seek to rediscover, and reinvest in, an older self-image which holds that, relative to nations on the Continent, Britain is still a great seafaring country with global interests that cover much of the English-speaking world, a remnant of the once glorious empire, be that as it may.
Since the United Kingdom chose to leave the EU, a new consensus has emerged amongst Tokyo-based policymakers, such as members of Japan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and those close to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, myself included. Call it the 'Tokyo Consensus'. It assumes that, as far as Japan’s national interest is concerned, Brexit may well turn out to be a blessing in disguise. The benefits of Brexit for Japan, which are largely geopolitical, could offset its costs, which are mostly economic. This assumption appears to be shared internationally. Conversations with diplomats and visitors from Australia, New Zealand, India and the US, amongst others, have given me a sense that the 'Tokyo Consensus' may have a wider, Indo-Pacific, application.
The reasoning behind the Tokyo Consensus goes as follows: Post-Brexit Britain will no longer be able to identify with Europe in the way it did pre-Brexit. A soul-searching Britain will instead seek to rediscover, and reinvest in, an older self-image which holds that, relative to nations on the Continent, Britain is still a great seafaring country with global interests that cover much of the English-speaking world, a remnant of the once glorious empire, be that as it may.
Read the next paragraphs for what he's angling for specifically.
I can confirm that the normal response to Brexit is more like the way you'd react to your alcoholic uncle burning your house down. That includes highly on-message media like Fuji TV (Sankei).
However, I can see how this guy might think it's useful to send a message to a Brexit-supporting government that if the British were to send a bit more military help to keep China in its box, the whole thing would be a triumphant success and they'd totally be respected across the world, definitely.
Since the United Kingdom chose to leave the EU, a new consensus has emerged amongst Tokyo-based policymakers, such as members of Japan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and those close to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, myself included. Call it the 'Tokyo Consensus'. It assumes that, as far as Japan’s national interest is concerned, Brexit may well turn out to be a blessing in disguise. The benefits of Brexit for Japan, which are largely geopolitical, could offset its costs, which are mostly economic. This assumption appears to be shared internationally. Conversations with diplomats and visitors from Australia, New Zealand, India and the US, amongst others, have given me a sense that the 'Tokyo Consensus' may have a wider, Indo-Pacific, application.
The reasoning behind the Tokyo Consensus goes as follows: Post-Brexit Britain will no longer be able to identify with Europe in the way it did pre-Brexit. A soul-searching Britain will instead seek to rediscover, and reinvest in, an older self-image which holds that, relative to nations on the Continent, Britain is still a great seafaring country with global interests that cover much of the English-speaking world, a remnant of the once glorious empire, be that as it may.
Read the next paragraphs for what he's angling for specifically.
I can confirm that the normal response to Brexit is more like the way you'd react to your alcoholic uncle burning your house down. That includes highly on-message media like Fuji TV (Sankei).
However, I can see how this guy might think it's useful to send a message to a Brexit-supporting government that if the British were to send a bit more military help to keep China in its box, the whole thing would be a triumphant success and they'd totally be respected across the world, definitely.
The RN has been stepping up its presence in the Far East:
Corbyn, Brexit and Trump: I wonder which will be reversed first. It's looking like Corbyn at present.
I agree.
Trump will last until Jan 2021. Corbyn will be gone by then.
Brexit may well be suspended but not cancelled, but more likely be Limbo Transition Vassal State Brexit, until reversed. but hard to put a timecourse on it.
Trump could see be relected given the limited Denocratic field for 2020, Corbyn will remain leader until the next general election as he has the Labour membership behind him and even the Chequers Deal technically ends free movement and takes us out of the single market for services
Chequers was dead on arrival.
Far from it, it will likely be the basis of the Deal agreed next year
Mike Gapes, a former chairman of the Commons foreign affairs committee, told fellow Labour MPs: “I am not prepared to support the racist antisemite. Period. It’s over for me.”.....
Responding to Mr Corbyn’s video in a WhatsApp message, Mr Gapes said that his personal “red line” had been crossed. All that remained was the timing of the announcement of his resignation, he said.
The MP for Ilford South refused to comment on what he said was a confidential communication. “It is painful. It is a horrible place to be and it can’t go on. Something has to change in the party or everyone has to make their own position, about where they stand. I am agonising with this every day.”
Other interesting snippet from the Times - the 'Zionist' (who as it happens is Jewish) Corbyn was referring to was Richard Millett, whose family arrived over 100 years ago and whose father founded Milletts clothing chain.
For the love of God, it is time for these MPs to take a stand.
But he's a Labour tribalist, and he hates centre parties. He is also near retirement, probably in his last term, and under perpetual pressure from his local party to make way for a Muslim candidate. The worst he'll do is become an independent and then disappear from the scene at the next election - he isn't defecting anywhere or creating any sort of new party. He is too much of a dinosaur to be behind anything new, anyhow; he is the archetype committee timeserver who enjoys too many lunches.
Would this be the paranoid delusional Brian Harvey who posted a YouTube video last month where he claimed he hadn't been outside in five years?
Have you ever spoken to him in person?
No. Though I once sat opposite Martha Lane Fox in a train.
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Well, I didn't say it was an interesting anecdote...
I sat opposite Nigel Farage on a train once, he alighted at Dulwich, suspect he might have been giving a speech at his old school.
I stood behind Simon Callow in a shop.
This is a true fact.
I stood behind Benedict Cumberbatch queuing for books at the Hay Festival
I stood behind Ed M at Hay about ten or eleven years ago. He was completely unrecognised by anyone around me.
Plus ca change.
I sat next to Rolf Harris (a childhood favourite) on a plane once. Charming and affable. The next time I saw him was on the Queen Mary 2 as the police were going through his home in Maidenhead.....
I listened to a long interview on a Quantas flight about his life ten years ago; at the time I thought he sounded like a really decent guy.
I also took a wrong turn in Venice some years back, and found Michael Howard, then Tory leader, coming up the alley towards me. But he wasn't going where I was going,
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PLP 'Steadiness under fire' is looking more and more like 'frozen in the headlights'.
But he will have entrenched rules that make it far easier for his fringe to retain control.
And so the damage will have been made semi-permanent.
The reasoning behind the Tokyo Consensus goes as follows: Post-Brexit Britain will no longer be able to identify with Europe in the way it did pre-Brexit. A soul-searching Britain will instead seek to rediscover, and reinvest in, an older self-image which holds that, relative to nations on the Continent, Britain is still a great seafaring country with global interests that cover much of the English-speaking world, a remnant of the once glorious empire, be that as it may.
http://www.inthelongrun.org/articles/article/brexit-the-view-from-japan-or-the-tokyo-consensus
I can confirm that the normal response to Brexit is more like the way you'd react to your alcoholic uncle burning your house down. That includes highly on-message media like Fuji TV (Sankei).
However, I can see how this guy might think it's useful to send a message to a Brexit-supporting government that if the British were to send a bit more military help to keep China in its box, the whole thing would be a triumphant success and they'd totally be respected across the world, definitely.
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2018/may/03/180503-uk-reaffirms-relationship-with-asia-pacific-partner-japan
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2018/august/07/180807-hms-albion-proves-big-in-japan-on-landmark-visit-to-tokyo
Which may have helped secure the Type 26 Frigate order from Australia:
https://www.ft.com/content/845e88e0-7ac7-11e8-8e67-1e1a0846c475
I also took a wrong turn in Venice some years back, and found Michael Howard, then Tory leader, coming up the alley towards me. But he wasn't going where I was going,