Apologies for the profoundly morbid nature of the comment, but this is www.politicalbetting.com - Could the possibility of an extra race in Arizona affect control of the senate ?
No, because the Governor of Arizona (a Republican) appoints his successor, who serves for the remainder of his Senate term.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
I am not a fan of Mrs M, but she is a positive colossus compared with Boris, Rees Dog Vomit or Corbyn. I hope she stays there for a bit
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
Bit tricky to keep it confidential when you go to a public court. They certainly did keep it confidential until the investigation was completed. Is Salmond claiming that no one should ever know? I think that is a bit optimistic and frankly disrespectful to his alleged victims too.
My sympathies to the surprisingly large number of people who have lost kith and kin to cancer (after the treatment was stopped). It is better than needlessly putting people through chemotherapy and the like, but obviously still very difficult.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
I am not a fan of Mrs M, but she is a positive colossus compared with Boris, Rees Dog Vomit or Corbyn. I hope she stays there for a bit
A large part of me is hoping she overcomes her sense of duty and walks out of number ten in the very short term. The pandemonium would be a healthy catharsis for the country.
Mr. Eagles, Islam isn't a race. That doesn't make anti-Muslim bigotry acceptable. It's important to define properly what's going on. The term Islamophobia is disliked by many because it conflates anti-Muslim prejudice and discrimination with mockery, insult, and questioning of an idea (namely Islam). This is particularly relevant given inaction by the authorities over 'cultural sensitivity' in Rotherham, and elsewhere, and the attempt at imposing by violence a de facto blasphemy law with the terrorist attack against Charlie Hebdo.
This might have changed because it's a while ago I learnt it, but Sikhs and Jews are considered both an ethnic and religious description in law, presumably because of the inherited status (this applies to orthodox Jews, I think other denominations permit conversion to the religion). It's also why Disraeli and Ed Miliband are described as Jewish political leaders despite the former converting to the Anglican Church and the latter being an atheist.
If someone's discriminating against another on the basis of their religious position (Muslim, in this instance) that's unacceptable. If someone's taking the piss out of a religion (in this case Islam) that's absolutely fine. Blasphemy laws cannot and must not be imposed upon non-believers.
I am not Muslim, but I suspect to some extent it depends where the mockery comes from. If it comes from a source that only mocks Muslims we can say that is probably based on scumbaggish prejudice. If on the other hand it is aimed at all theists then that may look less offensive. Interestingly though Richard Dawkins seems oddly quiet in his mockery of Islam. maybe that tells you something about him.
That he takes Darwin's teachings about survival of the fittest seriously?
Sorry to be pedantic but Darwin didn't teach "the survival of the fittest".
Dawkins is an anti-theist rather than an atheist. It as much a belief based faith as any religion. My point though is that he seems comfortable attacking Christianity, but less so attacking a religion that might throw a fatwa at him
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
She did apologise for getting her first response wrong and has shown considerable kindness to them since
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
I am not a fan of Mrs M, but she is a positive colossus compared with Boris, Rees Dog Vomit or Corbyn. I hope she stays there for a bit
The above alternatives are just too awful to even contemplate
I’ve heard enough times from the far right/Tommy Robinson that I can’t be British because my loyalties lie towards Mecca.
Labour must be so proud.
Next Corbyn’s team will be using the line that the absolute boy cannot be a racist because Judaism/Zionism isn’t a race.
It’s the same line the far right make when they say Islam isn’t a race.
When I was much younger I used to hear from some people that Catholics couldn’t be properly British because they were somehow “foreign” and owed their loyalty to the Pope. I had’t heard that for a while until quite recently.
It is scapegoating of unpopular minorities. But according to @NickPalmer we should not be worried because Labour represents the cultural zeitgeist and not the nasty racism of previous decades. He was talking garbage, of course.
When I did a thread on the anti-Catholic bigotry of the DUP I was shocked at
1) Just how much of it there was
2) How recent it was
3) That it went to the very top of the DUP and its elected officials
4) How few of them have ever apologised for or repudiated their views.
On the last thread we have had a inquest of why people voted brexit ,why don't we have a debate on here why very many remainers are the unhappy lot and just want to insult.
No matter how angry you get,we are still leaving the EU.
...and no matter how angry you get, we will probably go back in one day and I will laugh my old age pensioner socks off. I just hope there are enough leavers still alive to watch their eyes swivelling so hard they burst out of their sockets withy pink faced incredulity
I'm a democrat and would be quite happy to accept the results of a referendum to Rejoin. I'd certainly disagree, of course, but even I wouldn't want the UK to be doing the fucking hokey-cokey over membership. If we Rejoin it would have to be as a full-fat member.
Same here! Its this 'we don't like the result so lets short circuit the process' I can't abide.
Labour or the Lib Dems can campaign at the next GE to rejoin - and if they win the subsequent referendum fair enough - but thats our process and the great & the good campaigning from on high for a so called 'people's vote' - so they can ignore the result of a people's vote sticks in my craw.
A UK with a 4% smaller economy than it might have been (or not, we'll never know) in 15 years time would still be the UK.
A UK where the result of the largest popular vote in history had been ignored could be a very different country,
I don't think many people are suggesting the vote should be ignored, and I certainly wasn't. i think that is just you being silly. It certainly can't be ignored, though it's judiciousness and validity can be and should be questioned.
If its effects is as benign as you suggest (and I hope you are right) then it is unlikely it will be reversed in the short term. Long term who knows, it really depends whether young people today become more reactionary and nationalistic as they get older. If they do not then I guess an application for readmission to take place around 2038
My sympathies to the surprisingly large number of people who have lost kith and kin to cancer (after the treatment was stopped). It is better than needlessly putting people through chemotherapy and the like, but obviously still very difficult.
That is very kind of you and it is true a time comes with cancer that palliative care is the kindest thing to do
I’ve heard enough times from the far right/Tommy Robinson that I can’t be British because my loyalties lie towards Mecca.
Labour must be so proud.
Next Corbyn’s team will be using the line that the absolute boy cannot be a racist because Judaism/Zionism isn’t a race.
It’s the same line the far right make when they say Islam isn’t a race.
When I was much younger I used to hear from some people that Catholics couldn’t be properly British because they were somehow “foreign” and owed their loyalty to the Pope. I had’t heard that for a while until quite recently.
It is scapegoating of unpopular minorities. But according to @NickPalmer we should not be worried because Labour represents the cultural zeitgeist and not the nasty racism of previous decades. He was talking garbage, of course.
Isn't that what Eagles says about JRM?
Its what JRM says about JRM:
...as a Catholic father-of-six he has consistently opposed gay marriage. In 2013, he said that on same sex partnerships, “I take my whip from the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church rather than the [Conservative] Whip’s Office.”
While I think he's wrong to have opposed gay marriage, and even wronger to have done so on the basis of his church's say so, the full quote doesn't make him sound quite so ecclesiastically whipped; “I’m a Roman Catholic and have made it clear to my constituents that in this sort of matter I take my whip from the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church rather than the Whip’s Office”
I guess it depends on how he defines "this sort of matter"
In the final ballot it was Morrison the relative moderate v Dutton the hard right Trumpite after the Turnbullite Bishop went out.
Had Dutton won you would have been right, though Morrison is a more traditional conservative and will be closer to Trump and more pro Brexit than the globalist liberal Turnbull was
I read a fantastic book many years ago about Turnbull and the Fairfax Affair. He is not a nice man
It wasn’t this one (mine was contemporaneous) but it covers the same ground
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
You really should not assume that all provincials are prejudiced nor that everyone in urban areas is liberal.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
I disagree with the assertion that PM's have to be empathetic. They have to be decisive leaders, good people managers, with a clear vision of what they wish to accomplish in office. I don't much care if they're nice or not.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
Kensington and Chelsea and Wandsworth are still Tory
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
You really should not assume that all provincials are prejudiced nor that everyone in urban areas is liberal.
I didn’t. If all provincials were prejudiced her poll ratings would be much higher.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
I am not a fan of Mrs M, but she is a positive colossus compared with Boris, Rees Dog Vomit or Corbyn. I hope she stays there for a bit
A large part of me is hoping she overcomes her sense of duty and walks out of number ten in the very short term. The pandemonium would be a healthy catharsis for the country.
TM does not do walking out. There can rarely, if ever, been a politician so determined to see a project through no matter how difficult or how much abuse they receive.
David Cameron walked away and look at the mess he left. TM will not do that
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
She did apologise for getting her first response wrong and has shown considerable kindness to them since
Sure, I am not criticising her, or anyone else in particular. I just disagree that to be PM you have to empathise with everyone.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
I disagree with the assertion that PM's have to be empathetic. They have to be decisive leaders, good people managers, with a clear vision of what they wish to accomplish in office. I don't much care if they're nice or not.
And against that benchmark how do you rate Theresa May?
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
I am not a fan of Mrs M, but she is a positive colossus compared with Boris, Rees Dog Vomit or Corbyn. I hope she stays there for a bit
A large part of me is hoping she overcomes her sense of duty and walks out of number ten in the very short term. The pandemonium would be a healthy catharsis for the country.
Is that an example of this English irony thing that Corbyn has noticed?
I’ve heard enough times from the far right/Tommy Robinson that I can’t be British because my loyalties lie towards Mecca.
Labour must be so proud.
Next Corbyn’s team will be using the line that the absolute boy cannot be a racist because Judaism/Zionism isn’t a race.
It’s the same line the far right make when they say Islam isn’t a race.
When I was much younger I used to hear from some people that Catholics couldn’t be properly British because they were somehow “foreign” and owed their loyalty to the Pope. I had’t heard that for a while until quite recently.
It is scapegoating of unpopular minorities. But according to @NickPalmer we should not be worried because Labour represents the cultural zeitgeist and not the nasty racism of previous decades. He was talking garbage, of course.
When I did a thread on the anti-Catholic bigotry of the DUP I was shocked at
1) Just how much of it there was
2) How recent it was
3) That it went to the very top of the DUP and its elected officials
4) How few of them have ever apologised for or repudiated their views.
The Pope is arriving in Ireland today, Arlene Foster declined to meet him though the Head of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland will meet him
I’ve heard enough times from the far right/Tommy Robinson that I can’t be British because my loyalties lie towards Mecca.
Labour must be so proud.
Next Corbyn’s team will be using the line that the absolute boy cannot be a racist because Judaism/Zionism isn’t a race.
It’s the same line the far right make when they say Islam isn’t a race.
When I was much younger I used to hear from some people that Catholics couldn’t be properly British because they were somehow “foreign” and owed their loyalty to the Pope. I had’t heard that for a while until quite recently.
It is scapegoating of unpopular minorities. But according to @NickPalmer we should not be worried because Labour represents the cultural zeitgeist and not the nasty racism of previous decades. He was talking garbage, of course.
When I did a thread on the anti-Catholic bigotry of the DUP I was shocked at
1) Just how much of it there was
2) How recent it was
3) That it went to the very top of the DUP and its elected officials
4) How few of them have ever apologised for or repudiated their views.
And the UUP. His excuse for this letter is that it was his assistant who signed it, not him.
Bit tricky to keep it confidential when you go to a public court. They certainly did keep it confidential until the investigation was completed. Is Salmond claiming that no one should ever know? I think that is a bit optimistic and frankly disrespectful to his alleged victims too.
Does Scots Law have 'super injunctions' where you can keep the fact that you've got an injunction secret?
I'm not sure what his complaint is. Is he arguing that an alleged offence which took place before the new complaints procedure was in place should not be investigated under that procedure? If not, which?
From what I've seen so far the Scottish Civil Service & government appear to have acted entirely appropriately.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't remember Maggie having much empathy with the miners Big_G!
She was not anti semetic, she fought for the Country against a militant organisation threatening democracy
She did not do enough to bring the terrible South Africa apartheid state to an end.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
I am not a fan of Mrs M, but she is a positive colossus compared with Boris, Rees Dog Vomit or Corbyn. I hope she stays there for a bit
A large part of me is hoping she overcomes her sense of duty and walks out of number ten in the very short term. The pandemonium would be a healthy catharsis for the country.
Is that an example of this English irony thing that Corbyn has noticed?
Not really. Things have to get worse before... well...
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
I disagree with the assertion that PM's have to be empathetic. They have to be decisive leaders, good people managers, with a clear vision of what they wish to accomplish in office. I don't much care if they're nice or not.
And against that benchmark how do you rate Theresa May?
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
She did apologise for getting her first response wrong and has shown considerable kindness to them since
Sure, I am not criticising her, or anyone else in particular. I just disagree that to be PM you have to empathise with everyone.
I do agree but in the context of Corbyn, to have British Jews frightened and threatened by him and his cabal, disenfranchise's him from leading our Country
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't remember Maggie having much empathy with the miners Big_G!
She was not anti semetic, she fought for the Country against a militant organisation threatening democracy
She did not do enough to bring the terrible South Africa apartheid state to an end.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't remember Maggie having much empathy with the miners Big_G!
She was not anti semetic, she fought for the Country against a militant organisation threatening democracy
She did not do enough to bring the terrible South Africa apartheid state to an end.
She possibly did more than anyone else:
Margaret Thatcher’s great contribution was that she recognised the cant and hypocrisy involved in much of the sanctions’ campaign and was fearless in her opposition to them.
Her opponents in the anti-apartheid movement and in the Commonwealth were incensed by her dogged opposition to sanctions. They had wanted an ANC victory as soon as possible and at any cost. However, an ANC victory before the mid-1980s could have been achieved only after a devastating racial war and, in all likelihood, would not have resulted in a genuine constitutional democracy - but in the imposition of a communist regime.
Margaret Thatcher understood this. Although she was a consistent critic of apartheid, she had no illusions about the challenges that we faced. She doggedly resisted demands for more sanctions and always gave me - and our negotiating partners - strong support for the achievement of a genuine non-racial constitutional democracy. Further sanctions would have substantially weakened those in favour of negotiations and would have strengthened white conservatives who were grimly prepared to resist foreign pressure to the bitter end.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
I disagree with the assertion that PM's have to be empathetic. They have to be decisive leaders, good people managers, with a clear vision of what they wish to accomplish in office. I don't much care if they're nice or not.
And against that benchmark how do you rate Theresa May?
Pretty poorly I would think, but then Hitler, I believe, would score quite highly on at least two of the three. I think most people (with the exception of Ken Livingston and possibly Jacob Rees Mogg) would prefer to have dull old Mrs Maybot. Besides, her being there triggers the swivel-eyed Brexit loonies, so in the absence of someone considerable more able, long may she remain as far as I am concerned
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
She did apologise for getting her first response wrong and has shown considerable kindness to them since
Sure, I am not criticising her, or anyone else in particular. I just disagree that to be PM you have to empathise with everyone.
I do agree but in the context of Corbyn, to have British Jews frightened and threatened by him and his cabal, disenfranchise's him from leading our Country
With respect, the polls disagree. Anti-semitism doesn't, empirically, have much salience for the average web designer on the Clapham Omnibus. It should, but there you have it. It's almost Moral-Maze worthy; would it be acceptable to have a racist PM if they fixed the housing market and re-introduced free tertiary education?
Bit tricky to keep it confidential when you go to a public court. They certainly did keep it confidential until the investigation was completed. Is Salmond claiming that no one should ever know? I think that is a bit optimistic and frankly disrespectful to his alleged victims too.
Does Scots Law have 'super injunctions' where you can keep the fact that you've got an injunction secret?
I'm not sure what his complaint is. Is he arguing that an alleged offence which took place before the new complaints procedure was in place should not be investigated under that procedure? If not, which?
From what I've seen so far the Scottish Civil Service & government appear to have acted entirely appropriately.
I have been involved in some discussions about that. I think the consensus is that such a thing might be theoretically possible in Scotland but no one had ever heard of one being granted. Of course that is the idea, isn't it?
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
She did apologise for getting her first response wrong and has shown considerable kindness to them since
Sure, I am not criticising her, or anyone else in particular. I just disagree that to be PM you have to empathise with everyone.
I do agree but in the context of Corbyn, to have British Jews frightened and threatened by him and his cabal, disenfranchise's him from leading our Country
With respect, the polls disagree. Anti-semitism doesn't, empirically, have much salience for the average web designer on the Clapham Omnibus. It should, but there you have it. It's almost Moral-Maze worthy; would it be acceptable to have a racist PM if they fixed the housing market and re-introduced free tertiary education?
I think it is a factor in Labour's relatively poor performance in polls.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
Kensington and Chelsea and Wandsworth are still Tory
Kensington has a Labour MP and two of Wandsworth's three MPs are also Labour.
Bit tricky to keep it confidential when you go to a public court. They certainly did keep it confidential until the investigation was completed. Is Salmond claiming that no one should ever know? I think that is a bit optimistic and frankly disrespectful to his alleged victims too.
Does Scots Law have 'super injunctions' where you can keep the fact that you've got an injunction secret?
I'm not sure what his complaint is. Is he arguing that an alleged offence which took place before the new complaints procedure was in place should not be investigated under that procedure? If not, which?
From what I've seen so far the Scottish Civil Service & government appear to have acted entirely appropriately.
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
Off Topic: Trumptown. Seeing that Pecker and Weisselberg have both been given immunity deals, and Sessions is standing his ground against Trump, I wonder if we've hit a pivot point, where the GOP* will now start the rat and sinking ship thing ...
Edit: * GOP Establishment and Congressional members
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't remember Maggie having much empathy with the miners Big_G!
She was not anti semetic, she fought for the Country against a militant organisation threatening democracy
She did not do enough to bring the terrible South Africa apartheid state to an end.
She possibly did more than anyone else:
Margaret Thatcher’s great contribution was that she recognised the cant and hypocrisy involved in much of the sanctions’ campaign and was fearless in her opposition to them.
Her opponents in the anti-apartheid movement and in the Commonwealth were incensed by her dogged opposition to sanctions. They had wanted an ANC victory as soon as possible and at any cost. However, an ANC victory before the mid-1980s could have been achieved only after a devastating racial war and, in all likelihood, would not have resulted in a genuine constitutional democracy - but in the imposition of a communist regime.
Margaret Thatcher understood this. Although she was a consistent critic of apartheid, she had no illusions about the challenges that we faced. She doggedly resisted demands for more sanctions and always gave me - and our negotiating partners - strong support for the achievement of a genuine non-racial constitutional democracy. Further sanctions would have substantially weakened those in favour of negotiations and would have strengthened white conservatives who were grimly prepared to resist foreign pressure to the bitter end.
Thank you for that correction. There are almost as many popular misconceptions (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging left) about Mrs T as there are popular misconceptions about the EU (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging right).
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
Kensington and Chelsea and Wandsworth are still Tory
Kensington has a Labour MP and two of Wandsworth's three MPs are also Labour.
The councils for both stayed Tory in May with the PM making regular campaign visits
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
Bit tricky to keep it confidential when you go to a public court. They certainly did keep it confidential until the investigation was completed. Is Salmond claiming that no one should ever know? I think that is a bit optimistic and frankly disrespectful to his alleged victims too.
There is a point in keeping identification in cases like harassment or rape confidential until conviction. Even if the person is acquited, mud will stick.
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
Kensington and Chelsea and Wandsworth are still Tory
Kensington has a Labour MP and two of Wandsworth's three MPs are also Labour.
The councils for both stayed Tory in May with the PM making regular campaign visits
Are you slowly going back to being May's cheerleader again ? You were wobbly for a time.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't remember Maggie having much empathy with the miners Big_G!
She was not anti semetic, she fought for the Country against a militant organisation threatening democracy
She did not do enough to bring the terrible South Africa apartheid state to an end.
She possibly did more than anyone else:
Margaret Thatcher’s great contribution was that she recognised the cant and hypocrisy involved in much of the sanctions’ campaign and was fearless in her opposition to them.
Her opponents in the anti-apartheid movement and in the Commonwealth were incensed by her dogged opposition to sanctions. They had wanted an ANC victory as soon as possible and at any cost. However, an ANC victory before the mid-1980s could have been achieved only after a devastating racial war and, in all likelihood, would not have resulted in a genuine constitutional democracy - but in the imposition of a communist regime.
Margaret Thatcher understood this. Although she was a consistent critic of apartheid, she had no illusions about the challenges that we faced. She doggedly resisted demands for more sanctions and always gave me - and our negotiating partners - strong support for the achievement of a genuine non-racial constitutional democracy. Further sanctions would have substantially weakened those in favour of negotiations and would have strengthened white conservatives who were grimly prepared to resist foreign pressure to the bitter end.
Thank you for that correction. There are almost as many popular misconceptions (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging left) about Mrs T as there are popular misconceptions about the EU (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging right).
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
She did apologise for getting her first response wrong and has shown considerable kindness to them since
Sure, I am not criticising her, or anyone else in particular. I just disagree that to be PM you have to empathise with everyone.
I do agree but in the context of Corbyn, to have British Jews frightened and threatened by him and his cabal, disenfranchise's him from leading our Country
With respect, the polls disagree. Anti-semitism doesn't, empirically, have much salience for the average web designer on the Clapham Omnibus. It should, but there you have it. It's almost Moral-Maze worthy; would it be acceptable to have a racist PM if they fixed the housing market and re-introduced free tertiary education?
I think it is a factor in Labour's relatively poor performance in polls.
My anecdotal experience is that Magic Grandpa Corbyn is pure, unadulterated Marmite.
Those that like him think he is wonderful and those that don't think he would be a complete disaster as PM and a threat to this country's way of life.
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
Maybe Jezza wants all the Jews to move to Wales?
Including all those currently living in Israel as well probably.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't remember Maggie having much empathy with the miners Big_G!
She was not anti semetic, she fought for the Country against a militant organisation threatening democracy
She did not do enough to bring the terrible South Africa apartheid state to an end.
She possibly did more than anyone else:
Margaret Thatcher’s great contribution was that she recognised the cant and hypocrisy involved in much of the sanctions’ campaign and was fearless in her opposition to them.
Thank you for that correction. There are almost as many popular misconceptions (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging left) about Mrs T as there are popular misconceptions about the EU (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging right).
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
I don't think everyone would say that she empathises with them. Grenfell Tower residents spring to mind.
She did apologise for getting her first response wrong and has shown considerable kindness to them since
Sure, I am not criticising her, or anyone else in particular. I just disagree that to be PM you have to empathise with everyone.
I do agree but in the context of Corbyn, to have British Jews frightened and threatened by him and his cabal, disenfranchise's him from leading our Country
With respect, the polls disagree. Anti-semitism doesn't, empirically, have much salience for the average web designer on the Clapham Omnibus. It should, but there you have it. It's almost Moral-Maze worthy; would it be acceptable to have a racist PM if they fixed the housing market and re-introduced free tertiary education?
It would never be acceptable to have a racist PM. I am amazed at your last sentence
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
The EW?
I'd call it the UK, it would save having to change the letterheads.
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
Good question. How about ‘Britain”?
Mind’ I’m over 80, so I fear I won’t be around to contribute to the decision when it happens!
I wouldn’t, though, be too surprised to see and independent Scotland in what’s left of my life time! A unified Ireland’s not as easy to see; Mr HYUFD was, a few days ago, forecasting a ‘residual Protestant Ulster’ ........ Antrim and Down......as still part of the UK after the rest decides it would prefer to stay in the EU.
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
The EW?
I'd call it the UK, it would save having to change the letterheads.
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
England and Wales as it was formally from 1536 to 1707 after the Laws of Wales Acts (and informally from the 13th century). See also the England and Wales cricket board.
Though of course the Northern Irish Protestants would not accept unification with the Catholic Republic and still no sign of Scotland going independent anytime soon
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
Good question. How about ‘Britain”?
Mind’ I’m over 80, so I fear I won’t be around to contribute to the decision when it happens!
I wouldn’t, though, be too surprised to see and independent Scotland in what’s left of my life time! A unified Ireland’s not as easy to see; Mr HYUFD was, a few days ago, forecasting a ‘residual Protestant Ulster’ ........ Antrim and Down......as still part of the UK after the rest decides it would prefer to stay in the EU.
Devomax is the solution for Scotland as it was for Quebec
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't remember Maggie having much empathy with the miners Big_G!
She was not anti semetic, she fought for the Country against a militant organisation threatening democracy
She did not do enough to bring the terrible South Africa apartheid state to an end.
She possibly did more than anyone else:
Margaret Thatcher’s great contribution was that she recognised the cant and hypocrisy involved in much of the sanctions’ campaign and was fearless in her opposition to them.
Thank you for that correction. There are almost as many popular misconceptions (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging left) about Mrs T as there are popular misconceptions about the EU (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging right).
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
The EW?
I'd call it the UK, it would save having to change the letterheads.
It'll be FUK.
Former United Kingdom
Well, it would be, especially if it had left the EU.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
Kensington and Chelsea and Wandsworth are still Tory
Kensington has a Labour MP and two of Wandsworth's three MPs are also Labour.
The councils for both stayed Tory in May with the PM making regular campaign visits
Are you slowly going back to being May's cheerleader again ? You were wobbly for a time.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't remember Maggie having much empathy with the miners Big_G!
She was not anti semetic, she fought for the Country against a militant organisation threatening democracy
She did not do enough to bring the terrible South Africa apartheid state to an end.
She possibly did more than anyone else:
Margaret Thatcher’s great contribution was that she recognised the cant and hypocrisy involved in much of the sanctions’ campaign and was fearless in her opposition to them.
Thank you for that correction. There are almost as many popular misconceptions (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging left) about Mrs T as there are popular misconceptions about the EU (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging right).
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
If Ireland were reunified and Scotland were independent, what would you want the remaining state to be called?
The EW?
I'd call it the UK, it would save having to change the letterheads.
It'll be FUK.
Former United Kingdom
Well, it would be, especially if it had left the EU.
How about rUK?
Actually, thinking about it, and remembereing the Macedonians, how about FUKoGB
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
And Welsh clubs are allowed to play in the EPL
And English clubs in the Scottish leagues (Berwick Rangers)
Be nice if Spurs , could start winning sliverware. Hope the new ground is ready soon , and helps achieve this.
Just watched the Manchester City documentary on Amazon Prime. See they have bought Premier League Rights. Might shake up Sky a bit eventually.
They only brought a package of rights that literally nobody wanted. The package went unsold initially.
Perhaps next time around they will be a serious challenger to sky, but they aren’t st the moment.
I think a bigger threat to sky is if premier league decide to cut out the middle man. With internet streaming it is absolutely possible to do and increasingly we are seeing in the US with the likes of MLB the majority of games are broadcast via streaming.
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
And Welsh clubs are allowed to play in the EPL
The most successful Welsh league club has its ground in England.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't remember Maggie having much empathy with the miners Big_G!
She was not anti semetic, she fought for the Country against a militant organisation threatening democracy
She did not do enough to bring the terrible South Africa apartheid state to an end.
She possibly did more than anyone else:
Margaret Thatcher’s great contribution was that she recognised the cant and hypocrisy involved in much of the sanctions’ campaign and was fearless in her opposition to them.
Thank you for that correction. There are almost as many popular misconceptions (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging left) about Mrs T as there are popular misconceptions about the EU (dishonestly stoked by the headbanging right).
Even sanctioning sporting events , which she could have made a stance against segregated sport. She was on the wrong side , she is no Nelson Mandela.
Cameron misrepresented her in this in the same way as he did the "no such thing as society" quote that lefties manage to invoke so much faux rage at. He was repositioning the party so he thought it harmless to misrepresent her to distance himself from what people simplistically thought her views were.
The biggest MrsT misrepresentation though is over Europe. Everyone thinks because of her Bruge speech that she would be in favour of leave. She wouldn't be. Other than the defeat of the USSR, the modern EU and the single market was her greatest legacy.
Even sanctioning sporting events , which she could have made a stance against segregated sport.
She was on the wrong side , she is no Nelson Mandela.
Nor was Nelson Mandela, to be fair. His talents stretched to a. sitting on his arse in prison and b. condoning the murder by torture of poor black people by dear old Winnie.
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
Not true. But your own prejudice won’t let you understand that
As someone of Welsh extraction I object to remarks about ‘not being properly English”. British, fair enough, but I don’t WANT to be 'properly English’. I’m proud of my Welsh heritage.
And Welsh clubs are allowed to play in the EPL
Only 6, for size/historical reasons, and they go all the way down to wherever Merthyr and Colwyn Bay are.
At the time of the split, 5 clubs that were in the English league (Bangor City, Barry Town, Caernarfon Town, Newtown and Rhyl) moved to the Welsh league.
For the reverse, there are 6 English sides that play/have played in the Welsh leagues - TNS is the famous one, as its history now includes Oswestry, but there's five more - Newcastle AFC, Bucknell FC, Trefonen FC, Morda United and Bishop's Castle Town.
Even sanctioning sporting events , which she could have made a stance against segregated sport.
She was on the wrong side , she is no Nelson Mandela.
Nor was Nelson Mandela, to be fair. His talents stretched to a. sitting on his arse in prison and b. condoning the murder by torture of poor black people by dear old Winnie.
Oh dear, it is sad aspect of the polar opposites of politics that they can't see and recognise brilliant people through the fog of their excrement tinted spectacles. Thatcher was brilliant and her legacy immense. So was Mandela. The likes of Jacob Rees Mogg and Jeremy Corbyn are the shit on their shoes
In the final ballot it was Morrison the relative moderate v Dutton the hard right Trumpite after the Turnbullite Bishop went out.
Had Dutton won you would have been right, though Morrison is a more traditional conservative and will be closer to Trump and more pro Brexit than the globalist liberal Turnbull was
I read a fantastic book many years ago about Turnbull and the Fairfax Affair. He is not a nice man
It wasn’t this one (mine was contemporaneous) but it covers the same ground
Being seen as favouring Muslims over Jews isn't going to be a game changing vote loser for Corbyn any more than being seen to be anti immigrant was for Leave. The only people horrified are those who want him out anyway. His supporters will frame it as him sticking up for the little guy.
"One mans freedom fighter is another's terrorist..."
To be PM of the UK you have to empathise with everyone. Corbyn simply does not
I don't think that first sentence stands up to be honest.
So which British citizens does TM not stand up for
The ones she labelled citizens of nowhere.
So tax avoiders then?
She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials. She offers nothing to anyone who lives and works inside the M25 or other urban areas,
Not true. But your own prejudice won’t let you understand that
Take a look at the 2017 election results. There seem to be a lot of prejudiced people inside the M25 and other urban areas. Or perhaps they’ve got it right and the Conservatives have shrivelled into the party for ugly reactionaries.
Even sanctioning sporting events , which she could have made a stance against segregated sport.
She was on the wrong side , she is no Nelson Mandela.
Nor was Nelson Mandela, to be fair. His talents stretched to a. sitting on his arse in prison and b. condoning the murder by torture of poor black people by dear old Winnie.
He showed great reconciliation as the new president from 1994 to 99.
Also great forgiveness , for what he and many people due to race , had suffered. A great man.
Even sanctioning sporting events , which she could have made a stance against segregated sport.
She was on the wrong side , she is no Nelson Mandela.
Nor was Nelson Mandela, to be fair. His talents stretched to a. sitting on his arse in prison and b. condoning the murder by torture of poor black people by dear old Winnie.
Oh dear, it is sad aspect of the polar opposites of politics that they can't see and recognise brilliant people through the fog of their excrement tinted spectacles. Thatcher was brilliant and her legacy immense. So was Mandela. The likes of Jacob Rees Mogg and Jeremy Corbyn are the shit on their shoes
My political heroes are Attlee and Thatcher. Churchill was a great wartime leader, but was deeply flawed. May is like Heath, Corbyn not fit to lick Foot's boots, JRM is a walking parody.
Even sanctioning sporting events , which she could have made a stance against segregated sport.
She was on the wrong side , she is no Nelson Mandela.
Nor was Nelson Mandela, to be fair. His talents stretched to a. sitting on his arse in prison and b. condoning the murder by torture of poor black people by dear old Winnie.
He showed great reconciliation as the new president from 1994 to 99.
Also great forgiveness , for what he and many people due to race , had suffered. A great man.
It takes about 20 minutes to die of necklacing, on average. How's that for suffering?
Former BNP leader Nick Griffin tweets support for Jeremy Corbyn against what he calls the 'Zionist media.' Ilford North MP Wes Streeting calls it 'sickening'
Comments
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/4/17197218/john-mccain-brain-cancer-arizona-senate-vacancy
Check out #fistgate regardless . By Eck...
1) Just how much of it there was
2) How recent it was
3) That it went to the very top of the DUP and its elected officials
4) How few of them have ever apologised for or repudiated their views.
If its effects is as benign as you suggest (and I hope you are right) then it is unlikely it will be reversed in the short term. Long term who knows, it really depends whether young people today become more reactionary and nationalistic as they get older. If they do not then I guess an application for readmission to take place around 2038
I guess it depends on how he defines "this sort of matter"
David Cameron walked away and look at the mess he left. TM will not do that
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/08/17/news/arlene-foster-declines-invitation-to-pope-s-speech-in-dublin-1410629/
https://twitter.com/Red_O_Hanlon/status/1032697402879369216
I'm not sure what his complaint is. Is he arguing that an alleged offence which took place before the new complaints procedure was in place should not be investigated under that procedure? If not, which?
From what I've seen so far the Scottish Civil Service & government appear to have acted entirely appropriately.
"She is a Prime Minister for prejudiced provincials."
is deliberately chain-yanking.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/11403728/Margaret-Thatchers-secret-campaign-to-end-apartheid.html
Margaret Thatcher’s great contribution was that she recognised the cant and hypocrisy involved in much of the sanctions’ campaign and was fearless in her opposition to them.
Her opponents in the anti-apartheid movement and in the Commonwealth were incensed by her dogged opposition to sanctions. They had wanted an ANC victory as soon as possible and at any cost. However, an ANC victory before the mid-1980s could have been achieved only after a devastating racial war and, in all likelihood, would not have resulted in a genuine constitutional democracy - but in the imposition of a communist regime.
Margaret Thatcher understood this. Although she was a consistent critic of apartheid, she had no illusions about the challenges that we faced. She doggedly resisted demands for more sanctions and always gave me - and our negotiating partners - strong support for the achievement of a genuine non-racial constitutional democracy. Further sanctions would have substantially weakened those in favour of negotiations and would have strengthened white conservatives who were grimly prepared to resist foreign pressure to the bitter end.
http://www.sahistory.org.za/archive/margaret-thatchers-role-sas-transformation-fw-de-klerk-5-december-2016
Hugo Lloris: Tottenham goalkeeper charged with drink-driving.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45297105
Edit: * GOP Establishment and Congressional members
https://mg.co.za/article/2013-04-19-00-margaret-thatchers-shameful-support-for-apartheid
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-apologises-for-thatcher-apartheid-policies-413569.html
Those that like him think he is wonderful and those that don't think he would be a complete disaster as PM and a threat to this country's way of life.
They should be ashamed
Mind’ I’m over 80, so I fear I won’t be around to contribute to the decision when it happens!
I wouldn’t, though, be too surprised to see and independent Scotland in what’s left of my life time! A unified Ireland’s not as easy to see; Mr HYUFD was, a few days ago, forecasting a ‘residual Protestant Ulster’ ........ Antrim and Down......as still part of the UK after the rest decides it would prefer to stay in the EU.
What was that about a moral crusade?
Former United Kingdom
Though of course the Northern Irish Protestants would not accept unification with the Catholic Republic and still no sign of Scotland going independent anytime soon
She gave to much succour to the apartheid regime.
Even sanctioning sporting events , which she could have made a stance against segregated sport.
She was on the wrong side , she is no Nelson Mandela.
How about rUK?
http://hurryupharry.org/2018/08/21/why-you-should-read-the-jewish-chronicle/
Hope the new ground is ready soon , and helps achieve this.
Just watched the Manchester City documentary on Amazon Prime.
See they have bought Premier League Rights.
Might shake up Sky a bit eventually.
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/international-champions-cup/story/3592965/tottenham-win-rare-trophy-as-international-champions-cup-concludes
But agreed.... WHL2 asap
Perhaps next time around they will be a serious challenger to sky, but they aren’t st the moment.
I think a bigger threat to sky is if premier league decide to cut out the middle man. With internet streaming it is absolutely possible to do and increasingly we are seeing in the US with the likes of MLB the majority of games are broadcast via streaming.
https://www.historytoday.com/paul-moorcraft/rhodesias-war-independence
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02582473.2013.846935
At the time of the split, 5 clubs that were in the English league (Bangor City, Barry Town, Caernarfon Town, Newtown and Rhyl) moved to the Welsh league.
For the reverse, there are 6 English sides that play/have played in the Welsh leagues - TNS is the famous one, as its history now includes Oswestry, but there's five more - Newcastle AFC, Bucknell FC, Trefonen FC, Morda United and Bishop's Castle Town.
Also great forgiveness , for what he and many people due to race , had suffered.
A great man.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6094457/Go-Jezza-Former-BNP-chief-Nick-Griffin-praises-Corbyn-slur-British-Zionists.html