A union leader who actually cares about the members and their lives, rather than playing sixth form room postering over the end of capitalism. Well blow me down.
And the action needed is to move production to it's largest European market. Both Opel and Ford have not made profits in Europe for the last decade because they have so much of thiet cost base in Germany.
Corbyn will get there. He's so close to power he can almost taste it, it'll soon be worth switching position as the gains will be higher than the cost. No one will be remembering antisemitism scandals then either.
With the re - entry of Farage on the alt right and Boris facebook comments most ordinary people must be in despair over our political classes.
Why? There's a reason we are getting this type of thing on the left and the right - it works, and it is what a lot of people want.
Is it though - I doubt it when push comes to shove
The only question for me is if it is a majority, or merely a significant minority. Either way, it hasn't happened for no reason. And of course as one side rises, the other rises to meet it.
The constant bitterness and civil war now going on in labour troubles the soul and is really very upsetting.
With the re - entry of Farage on the alt right and Boris facebook comments most ordinary people must be in despair over our political classes.
The Country is in need of a Macron style figure and a new centre party to lead us all away from the abyss of hatred and intolerance but it does not seem likely.
Where are the grown ups apart from TM and one or two others
You keep on spinning this labour civil war line... let’s see which of labour and Tories has the easier conference
I seem to recall the leaked recording of a very empassioned, emotional speech he gave, I think to the PLP, not that long after Corbyn came to power. My most vivid recollection of it is just how committed he sounded to the party, and how hard Corbynism was hitting him to his core.
Now, many errant moderates may have been converted to Corbynism when the sky did not fall in during GE2017, but it must be hard seeing one's party in the hands of people you think are going to lead it to a bad place. I don't know how Corbyn and his fellows were able to do so for decades, given their supporters hate most aspects of non-Corbyn Labour governance.
With the re - entry of Farage on the alt right and Boris facebook comments most ordinary people must be in despair over our political classes.
Why? There's a reason we are getting this type of thing on the left and the right - it works, and it is what a lot of people want.
Is it though - I doubt it when push comes to shove
The only question for me is if it is a majority, or merely a significant minority. Either way, it hasn't happened for no reason. And of course as one side rises, the other rises to meet it.
No doubt it will pan out in time and truthfully no one can have a clue in this febrile climate
See Labour are now telling Neil Kinnock he is a tory. They are stark raving mad
The constant bitterness and civil war now going on in labour troubles the soul and is really very upsetting.
With the re - entry of Farage on the alt right and Boris facebook comments most ordinary people must be in despair over our political classes.
The Country is in need of a Macron style figure and a new centre party to lead us all away from the abyss of hatred and intolerance but it does not seem likely.
Where are the grown ups apart from TM and one or two others
You keep on spinning this labour civil war line... let’s see which of labour and Tories has the easier conference
The constant bitterness and civil war now going on in labour troubles the soul and is really very upsetting.
With the re - entry of Farage on the alt right and Boris facebook comments most ordinary people must be in despair over our political classes.
The Country is in need of a Macron style figure and a new centre party to lead us all away from the abyss of hatred and intolerance but it does not seem likely.
Where are the grown ups apart from TM and one or two others
You keep on spinning this labour civil war line... let’s see which of labour and Tories has the easier conference
That might end up being a pretty fair prediction. Labour are in the midst of a struggle which has been going on for years now and which flares up occasionally and which, let's be honest, Corbyn has already won - that's why it's Corbyn (and work on winning the succession) or New Party, and it doesn't seem many are bold enough for the latter - whereas the government has a very big task to accomplish right after Conference, and have been trailing stories about challenging May for sure realsies this time in September, on a very fundamental, practical question in terms of Brexit (rather than fundamental moral questions for Labour, and moral questions always seem to be able to be put off).
If Corbyn switches his Brexit position to please the membership, what is going to cause a big ruckus other than the things they've had to deal with for years anyway?
With the re - entry of Farage on the alt right and Boris facebook comments most ordinary people must be in despair over our political classes.
Why? There's a reason we are getting this type of thing on the left and the right - it works, and it is what a lot of people want.
Is it though - I doubt it when push comes to shove
The only question for me is if it is a majority, or merely a significant minority. Either way, it hasn't happened for no reason. And of course as one side rises, the other rises to meet it.
No doubt it will pan out in time and truthfully no one can have a clue in this febrile climate
See Labour are now telling Neil Kinnock he is a tory. They are stark raving mad
Let’s observe conference season to decide which parties most in civil war.
With the re - entry of Farage on the alt right and Boris facebook comments most ordinary people must be in despair over our political classes.
Why? There's a reason we are getting this type of thing on the left and the right - it works, and it is what a lot of people want.
Is it though - I doubt it when push comes to shove
The only question for me is if it is a majority, or merely a significant minority. Either way, it hasn't happened for no reason. And of course as one side rises, the other rises to meet it.
No doubt it will pan out in time and truthfully no one can have a clue in this febrile climate
See Labour are now telling Neil Kinnock he is a tory. They are stark raving mad
Let’s observe conference season to decide which parties most in civil war.
The conservative conference is after the Council on Ministers meeting when it is more than possible the shape of a deal (no deal) will be on the table
People should no longer use the word "Mormon" to characterise the faith, the head of the Utah-based church has said.
Church leader Russell Nelson urged both followers and non-followers to stick to the official designation "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints".
Mr Nelson, 93, said the move had been prompted by God, who "impressed upon my mind the importance of the name".
I seem to recall the leaked recording of a very empassioned, emotional speech he gave, I think to the PLP, not that long after Corbyn came to power. My most vivid recollection of it is just how committed he sounded to the party, and how hard Corbynism was hitting him to his core.
Now, many errant moderates may have been converted to Corbynism when the sky did not fall in during GE2017, but it must be hard seeing one's party in the hands of people you think are going to lead it to a bad place. I don't know how Corbyn and his fellows were able to do so for decades, given their supporters hate most aspects of non-Corbyn Labour governance.
Kinnock spent hard years getting these people out of the Labour party and into the parties they really belong to e.g. SWP.
People should no longer use the word "Mormon" to characterise the faith, the head of the Utah-based church has said.
Church leader Russell Nelson urged both followers and non-followers to stick to the official designation "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints".
Mr Nelson, 93, said the move had been prompted by God, who "impressed upon my mind the importance of the name".
People should no longer use the word "Mormon" to characterise the faith, the head of the Utah-based church has said.
Church leader Russell Nelson urged both followers and non-followers to stick to the official designation "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints".
Mr Nelson, 93, said the move had been prompted by God, who "impressed upon my mind the importance of the name".
With the re - entry of Farage on the alt right and Boris facebook comments most ordinary people must be in despair over our political classes.
Why? There's a reason we are getting this type of thing on the left and the right - it works, and it is what a lot of people want.
Is it though - I doubt it when push comes to shove
The only question for me is if it is a majority, or merely a significant minority. Either way, it hasn't happened for no reason. And of course as one side rises, the other rises to meet it.
No doubt it will pan out in time and truthfully no one can have a clue in this febrile climate
See Labour are now telling Neil Kinnock he is a tory. They are stark raving mad
Let’s observe conference season to decide which parties most in civil war.
The conservative conference is after the Council on Ministers meeting when it is more than possible the shape of a deal (no deal) will be on the table
So either the Tories will be furious at Deal, or furious at No Deal.
At the Labour conference, it is the #peoplesvote debate to watch
People should no longer use the word "Mormon" to characterise the faith, the head of the Utah-based church has said.
Church leader Russell Nelson urged both followers and non-followers to stick to the official designation "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints".
Mr Nelson, 93, said the move had been prompted by God, who "impressed upon my mind the importance of the name".
Curious it took until now for God to get around to impress this upon the mind of Church leaders, but mysterious ways and all that.
Not sure about that; it's a bit of a mouthful to say "The Book of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"
God apparently agreed with you.
However, he added, the central text of the Church would still be called the Book of Mormon.
God was only moderately annoyed at the name.
(I kid of course, I actually have no idea why the book is called that or why it has been a nickname of the church).
Plus this way the musical doesn't need to change its name.
They try to inhabit a place before Protestant and Catholic sects hijacked Christianity. Sulphuric clouds hang over beaches in such a place. Whilst humans hide truths for them to be found, God’s secrets remain hidden until the hours of his choosing. It has been noted by us.
As example, the relationship between Britain’s Jewish community and the City of York
People should no longer use the word "Mormon" to characterise the faith, the head of the Utah-based church has said.
Church leader Russell Nelson urged both followers and non-followers to stick to the official designation "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints".
Mr Nelson, 93, said the move had been prompted by God, who "impressed upon my mind the importance of the name".
Curious it took until now for God to get around to impress this upon the mind of Church leaders, but mysterious ways and all that.
Not sure about that; it's a bit of a mouthful to say "The Book of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"
God apparently agreed with you.
However, he added, the central text of the Church would still be called the Book of Mormon.
God was only moderately annoyed at the name.
(I kid of course, I actually have no idea why the book is called that or why it has been a nickname of the church).
Plus this way the musical doesn't need to change its name.
They try to inhabit a place before Protestant and Catholic sects hijacked Christianity. Sulphuric clouds hang over beaches in such a place. Whilst humans hide truths for them to be found, God’s secrets remain hidden until the hours of his choosing. It has been noted by us.
As example, the relationship between Britain’s Jewish community and the City of York
The Archbishop of York seems to be a Corbynista according to a talk he gave which I attended.
People should no longer use the word "Mormon" to characterise the faith, the head of the Utah-based church has said.
Church leader Russell Nelson urged both followers and non-followers to stick to the official designation "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints".
Mr Nelson, 93, said the move had been prompted by God, who "impressed upon my mind the importance of the name".
Curious it took until now for God to get around to impress this upon the mind of Church leaders, but mysterious ways and all that.
Not sure about that; it's a bit of a mouthful to say "The Book of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"
God apparently agreed with you.
However, he added, the central text of the Church would still be called the Book of Mormon.
God was only moderately annoyed at the name.
(I kid of course, I actually have no idea why the book is called that or why it has been a nickname of the church).
Plus this way the musical doesn't need to change its name.
They try to inhabit a place before Protestant and Catholic sects hijacked Christianity. Sulphuric clouds hang over beaches in such a place. Whilst humans hide truths for them to be found, God’s secrets remain hidden until the hours of his choosing. It has been noted by us.
As example, the relationship between Britain’s Jewish community and the City of York
The Archbishop of York seems to be a Corbynista according to a talk he gave which I attended.
You see what the Germans done at this time was try to protect the Jews from this anti Semitic slaughtering.
Imagine there is no timeline. Everything is with us now, the hiding of the Jews from the crusaders and their vertebrae made into jewellery by The Nazis.
I have had Christians argue with me the fish drawn in dust by early Christians is nothing to do with Pisces, and Jews tell me the horns on Michelangelo's famous statue of Moses in St Peter in chains are those of the Devil emblematic of a millennium-long tradition of antisemitism, and nothing to do with Aries.
Will the cult of Hawking hate me if I say Stephen was not a scientist but a fantasist? But through all time a heart beats, not with anger and the Hate, but with peace and hope.
Opinium shows Tories and Labour virtually tied again (Tories ahead by 1), May marginally ahead of Corbyn as best PM (by 6), and significant minorities thinking Labour is anti-semitic (34%) and the Tories are anti-Muslim (27%). It'd be interesting to see the cross-tabs - I suspect the groups with suspicions are (reciprocally) predominantly from supporters of other parties, which would be another reason why there's so little movement.
And the action needed is to move production to it's largest European market. Both Opel and Ford have not made profits in Europe for the last decade because they have so much of thiet cost base in Germany.
Ummmm... Having German cost bases hasn't stopped other car companies from being profitable.
FMC obviously don't know what the fuck they are doing. A short consulation with pb.com's motor industry manufacturing and logistics experts will soon put them straight. Build an airport in the car park, etc.
And the action needed is to move production to it's largest European market. Both Opel and Ford have not made profits in Europe for the last decade because they have so much of thiet cost base in Germany.
If the UK is not bigger than the EU27 combined, then the EU27 is their "largest European market". And that's before we take tariffs into account.
Mohammed shows a flag of the Palestinian territories.
Palestinians joning Labour because of their anti semitism?
AS is a net electoral positive given both the current and future demographics of the UK.
If true, then that's a very unhappy point. Political science usually neglects the baser motives (if we were all rational economic actors trying to maximise our income, Brexit wouldn't have happened), and in all the kerfuffle about Labour being islamophiles/antisemitic, nobody is asking "is it working?"
Mohammed shows a flag of the Palestinian territories.
Palestinians joning Labour because of their anti semitism?
AS is a net electoral positive given both the current and future demographics of the UK.
The Yougov polls I have seen show AS is lower in younger people and higher in older people so I would suggest the reverse of what you have said is true.
Although the catch is a lot of young people don't see opposing the occupation of Palestine as AS but hatred of Jewish people instead, which I think is where a lot of the confusion comes in.
Mohammed shows a flag of the Palestinian territories.
Palestinians joning Labour because of their anti semitism?
AS is a net electoral positive given both the current and future demographics of the UK.
The Yougov polls I have seen show AS is lower in younger people and higher in older people so I would suggest the reverse of what you have said is true.
Although the catch is a lot of young people don't see opposing the occupation of Palestine as AS but hatred of Jewish people instead, which I think is where a lot of the confusion comes in.
What? Are you joking? You are making a genuine and terrible mistake. Anti semitism means hatred of Jewish people, and has no other meaning whatever. That isn't a combative point, just correction of a fundamental error. Google it if you think I'm wrong.
Mohammed shows a flag of the Palestinian territories.
Palestinians joning Labour because of their anti semitism?
AS is a net electoral positive given both the current and future demographics of the UK.
The Yougov polls I have seen show AS is lower in younger people and higher in older people so I would suggest the reverse of what you have said is true.
Although the catch is a lot of young people don't see opposing the occupation of Palestine as AS but hatred of Jewish people instead, which I think is where a lot of the confusion comes in.
What? Are you joking? You are making a genuine and terrible mistake. Anti semitism means hatred of Jewish people, and has no other meaning whatever. That isn't a combative point, just correction of a fundamental error. Google it if you think I'm wrong.
I think the Jezziah might have meant two separate clauses: "a lot of young people don't see opposing the occupation of Palestine as AS" and "a lot of young people see AS as being hatred of Jewish people."
But in line with his party and its leader, he misspoke ...
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Didn't he once punch the air and shout 'We've got our party back', after Brown walked?
https://twitter.com/Cornish_Damo/status/1030738375060475905
Now, many errant moderates may have been converted to Corbynism when the sky did not fall in during GE2017, but it must be hard seeing one's party in the hands of people you think are going to lead it to a bad place. I don't know how Corbyn and his fellows were able to do so for decades, given their supporters hate most aspects of non-Corbyn Labour governance.
See Labour are now telling Neil Kinnock he is a tory. They are stark raving mad
My first thought was Great Uncle Bulgaria.
Both conferences will be difficult
If Corbyn switches his Brexit position to please the membership, what is going to cause a big ruckus other than the things they've had to deal with for years anyway?
(I have to leave early...)
People should no longer use the word "Mormon" to characterise the faith, the head of the Utah-based church has said.
Church leader Russell Nelson urged both followers and non-followers to stick to the official designation "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints".
Mr Nelson, 93, said the move had been prompted by God, who "impressed upon my mind the importance of the name".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45236892
Curious it took until now for God to get around to impress this upon the mind of Church leaders, but mysterious ways and all that.
He must be gutted beyond words.
However, he added, the central text of the Church would still be called the Book of Mormon.
God was only moderately annoyed at the name.
(I kid of course, I actually have no idea why the book is called that or why it has been a nickname of the church).
Plus this way the musical doesn't need to change its name.
Last night we had a wonderful sleepover with two of our younger grandchildren (6 and 4) and it was an enchanting experience as ever.
Tonight we have our 9 year old who is now fast asleep, bless him.
The joys of grandchildren and the home filled with 'Grandma, I need you'
Good night folks
At the Labour conference, it is the #peoplesvote debate to watch
As example, the relationship between Britain’s Jewish community and the City of York
Palestinians joning Labour because of their anti semitism?
http://www.historyofyork.org.uk/themes/norman/the-1190-massacre
You see what the Germans done at this time was try to protect the Jews from this anti Semitic slaughtering.
Imagine there is no timeline. Everything is with us now, the hiding of the Jews from the crusaders and their vertebrae made into jewellery by The Nazis.
I have had Christians argue with me the fish drawn in dust by early Christians is nothing to do with Pisces, and Jews tell me the horns on Michelangelo's famous statue of Moses in St Peter in chains are those of the Devil emblematic of a millennium-long tradition of antisemitism, and nothing to do with Aries.
Will the cult of Hawking hate me if I say Stephen was not a scientist but a fantasist? But through all time a heart beats, not with anger and the Hate, but with peace and hope.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/18/labour-suspends-ex-mp
Although the catch is a lot of young people don't see opposing the occupation of Palestine as AS but hatred of Jewish people instead, which I think is where a lot of the confusion comes in.
"a lot of young people don't see opposing the occupation of Palestine as AS"
and
"a lot of young people see AS as being hatred of Jewish people."
But in line with his party and its leader, he misspoke ...