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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797
    JohnLoony said:

    Charles said:

    Ed Balls on BBC playing the eukaleli and singing “when I’m cleaning windows”

    If you think that's how to spell "ukulele" then you should be beaten to death with a four-foot-long frozen-solid armadillo.

    Surely your little stick of Blackpool rock would be more appropriate ?
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,429
    JohnLoony said:

    (Previous thread) I went to Wikipedia to remind myself of where the Commonwealth Games have been hosted each time, and the other links led to other interesting things like the Francophone Games (which have been happening since 1989 and include countries such as Romania, Poland and Lithuania as well as Francophone countries) which include poetry, dance, singing, painting and sculpture as well as sports

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeux_de_la_Francophonie

    and the Lusophone Games (only three times so far) which includes the Portuguese-speaking countries (including India (because of Goa innit))

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusophony_Games

    The main practical benefit of the Commonwealth games is that it stops the Chinese from winning all of the gold medals in diving. No doubt the Franco- and Luso- Games also have similar parallel advantages in niche areas.

    Also there's

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_Games
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    archer101auarcher101au Posts: 1,612

    RoyalBlue said:

    TGOHF said:

    kjohnw said:

    if there is a vote next week in commons on uk remaining in customs union and ten tory mps vote against government can anyone advise will this force government to remain in customs union. do the opposition have the numbers to force the governments hand

    The EU won’t let us stay in without freedom of movement - it’s all baloney.
    That’s why it will be customs union and not Single Market.
    Regulatory divergence within the UK then?
    This is the REMAINER BIG LIE - that CU membership will solve the NI border issue. It will not. Only a CU combined with regulatory alignment will solve the NI border issue as far at the EU are concerned - this is why the EU insisted on the phrase 'full regulatory alignment' in the phase 1 talks.

    As soon as May concedes the CU, the next trick will be telling her that she has to accept regulatory alignment as well, which is basically SM membership in terms of obligations (but with no benefits). And of course, the EU will then tell her that she can't have this without making concessions on FOM because otherwise it would be cherry picking.

    The Remainers who pushed May down this route have a lot to answer for. The British used to know how to deal with traitors. Now we just make them senior civil servants.
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    archer101auarcher101au Posts: 1,612
    kjohnw said:

    if there is a vote next week in commons on uk remaining in customs union and ten tory mps vote against government can anyone advise will this force government to remain in customs union. do the opposition have the numbers to force the governments hand

    No. Parliament cannot give directions to the executive. Such a motion would be non-binding. Parliament can refuse to enact legislation and can pass laws but they do not have the power to sign and negotiate a treaty. The correct procedure if Parliament is not satisfied with the actions of the executive is to form a new Government.
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    archer101auarcher101au Posts: 1,612

    rcs1000 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    The Great Brexit betrayal is coming according to The Sunday Times, Sir Graham Brady's postie is going to get a hernia.

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/987791875041124354

    It will be the last thing she does (as PM) if she does.
    I'm not sure it will. It'll depend on what conditions come with it. The alternative is that come March next year, Britain is out of every FTA the EU has, bar those where the other signatory has agreed to roll it over. As yet, I don't think a single one has?

    The problems will come if there has to be significant and ongoing regulatory alignment, and if the ECJ is the sole arbiter of internal UK-EU disputes.
    I've said it before, but it bears repeating, the Department for International Trade should have spent the last two years ensuring that we replicated the existing trade deals of the EU. instead, Dr Fox has spent his time in Washington chasing the chimera of an easy UK-US free trade deal.
    Yeh, but that would involve a load of work, as iirc there are 67 of them.
    No, The reason that we did not do this is because the REMAINERS did not want to upset the EU. Legally, the requirement of 'utmost good faith' did not apply to this because it only affected UK trade policy AFTER we had left the EU. The EU pretended to get very upset about this, and the REMAINERS were on this forum and every other forum saying how terrible it was that Davis was being nasty to the EU when if we just went along with everything they said it would all be much better (!). So the UK agreed not to start negotiating trade deals until after Brexit.

    Davis and Fox were originally in full support of early negotiation of trade deals. Please don't add to your lies by pretending that this happened for any other reason than REMAINER pressure.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797
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