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There’s a new 1,507 sample Survation poll, restricted just to GE2015/GE2017 Conservative voters, which seeks to get their views on Brexit and related issues. Fieldwork took place last week.
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David Davis and Theresa May really have shafted the DUP today.
i) Reject the deal and Remain in the EU
ii) Accept the deal
iii) Reject the deal and Leave the EU on WTO terms
Not so much the deal, because Brexit is getting softer by the day - although vassalage is a bitter pill - but the ongoing collapse of the Brexit argument wholesale, with nary an apology for the costume changes.
It’s the biggest fraud ever perpetuated on the U.K. public.
Because they won the referendum on a platform of lies, have made a series of promises they had no intention of keeping, have slandered their opponents left, right and centre, and now pretend they are models of sobriety.
Whereas all they have done is bow to the inevitable.
PS it’s not a soft Brexit. It’s still a hard Brexit (ex-single market, customs union).
If you’re lucky I’ll do daily threads on AV.
Those many Remain voters who have resigned themselves to Brexit and now want to see it work out for the best for the sake of the country deserve great praise, support and understanding. Those who continue to rail against it and try to undermine it deserve nothing but disdain and ridicule.
They lost 4 for 20 and their captain was out second ball for six.
All that matters is to note that both the UK and EU have made the necessary compromises to agree a transition deal, now, so they can move onto the substance of trade discussions.
Nothing more, nothing less. We will still be leaving on 29th March 2019. And a full UK-EU trade deal will come into effect on 31st December 2020.
Now when the government shows some pragmatism, because they aren't going to be able to please everyone, we get moaning about that, and howls of betrayal on behalf of people that the die-hard Remainers routinely abuse.
Moderates, and most of the public are within that group, should be reasonably happy with today's events.
Remainers don’t need your praise, support and understanding; they need you to do “a Williamson”.
It doesn't tell us very much about whether Conservative voters support a second referendum in the abstract, to which the first question listed is probably more instructive.
There is a world of difference between the tweets from politicians, and the actual detail of the negotiation. Yes there are sticking points, but there is a genuine belief on both sides that no deal is not a viable option.
Could we have done a better job in these negotiations? Yes. I think we started with the tone all wrong and lost six months of progress because of that. However, things seem to be moving in very much the right direction now.
Things I would have done differently: I'd have had a more explicit staggered transition period, with the customs union part ending last (simply because two years is not a lot of time to replicate existing deals, and makes us the desperate party in negotiations). But other than that, I think things have gone OK.
Now, of course, the focus is going to move to Dr Fox.
Anyway another step was taken towards leaving the EU, and that's what actually matters.
By the way your position has changed 180 degrees from before the referendum when you backed the idea of blackmailing our way into the EEA by rejoining EFTA, something that, even if it could be done, would leave us outside the customs union overnight.
I'm not happy with the immigration result from today and something must be put in place that it won't be a free for all in the transition period.
Good afternoon, everyone.
That’s the whole problem with Leaving.
He's the sort of idiot that would blurt out sensitive information in an interview or over the despatch box not realising what he was doing.
Three years away and counting.
Free movement is, of course, taken care of via the Common Travel Area, but the areas that fall in scope of this common regulatory area (CRA?) for the purposes of the transition period are listed as follows, all to be governed by a Special Committee between UK/EIRE and the EU:
Goods in Annex 2.1
Customs legislation in annex 2.2
VAT in annex 2.3
Excise in annex 2.4
Sanitary/phytosanitary on annex 2.5
Agriculture/fisheries on annex 2.6
Electricity on annex 2.7
Environment on annex 2.8
State aid in annex 2.9
As far as I can tell, these annexes are not populated yet. That's almost certainly because it's impossible to finalise the Northern Irish border question - even for its transition - until the trade deal itself is agreed.
However, it's a useful pointer to where negotiations may be heading: the UK will want a shorter list in those annexes than in the EU, but it looks broadly in line with Theresa's Mansion House speech to me.
I just went to pick up the little 'un from preschool, and received a letter to say that theirs was one of the schools that got a bomb threat this morning:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43457548
I wonder what this little hoax cost the authorities?
It was commissioned by a body called Citizens for Britain which is a grass roots organisation of stop Brexit Tories.
And I discount anything you say on the subject, because you're a fanatic that has a bizarre obsession with what I say on the subject.
Indeed. Permanent membership of the single market will do the trick.
You're not singing any more.
You're not singing any more!
Who are yah, who are yah?
Are you Kiwis in disguise?
Bereft of reason, Brexiters now only applaud that the end of the tunnel is nearing - one day at a time.
Except for blue passports of course.
Many a europhobe red line breached already. Three more years to make the case for the single market.