This strike - and its effects on students, who are - at the moment paying for nothing - seem to have fallen off the radar. They shouldn’t. My son, in his second year, has had very little teaching since it started. So far all his coursework and exam results have shown him heading for a II(I). End of year exams are not that far off. To say that he is mightily pissed with what is happening would not be an exaggeration. As am I on his behalf.
What is the Education Minister doing about this? Big fees, usurious interest rates, now no teaching..... and the Tories wonder why the young and, increasingly, their parents won’t vote for them.
An interesting comment on the politics. Surely all the students should be abandoning Labour, as the party that supports the strikes?
The pendulum is swinging in much greater arcs that it's ever done before. The most charming and popular US President has been replaced by a redneck vulgarian moron.
Leaving aside the somewhat inaccurate description of Trump, it's not true to say that Obama was the most popular US president. Going by the gallup series, that accolade goes to George W Bush, who hit a 90% approval rating immediately post-9/11 (he also scored one of the lowest approval ratings in history, bottoming out at 25% - only Nixon and Truman have scored worse). By contrast, Obama never received a better than his inaugural rating of 67%. He did do well in avoiding deep negatives, never dropping below 40% - but Kennedy and Eisenhower did better.
According to a 2011 Gallup Obama was the 4th most popular post-war President with Reagan first then Clinton then Kennedy
I don't trust those sort of polls. They always skew to the present and recent past, as evidenced there. Clinton and Kennedy greater than Washington or FDR?! Slight lack of historical perspective there, I think.
Well that is always going to be the case in that polling favours more recent leaders a bit more than those from centuries past but as I only looked at post-war presidents the point still stands (though Lincoln came second)
Lincoln coming second is justifiable, if it's to someone like Washington or Franklin Roosevelt. Reagan, while a better-than-average president, however, is a different matter.
Except the polling wasn't about the best post-war president. And the responses demonstrate how seriously one can take it.
Except the original statement was 'Obama was the most popular President', not the 'best President' which is something for historians to decide but the 'most popular' which can only be decided by polling.
Given no current voter was alive when Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson etc were President and virtually none now when FDR was President too polling on them can largely be discarded (indeed there was no polling in the 18th and 19th centuries)
Or in other words, Verhofstadt providing yet more evidence that he’s a fanatical, rude and dangerous piece of proverbial. Acts like this increase the probability of a no deal Brexit.
The pendulum is swinging in much greater arcs that it's ever done before. The most charming and popular US President has been replaced by a redneck vulgarian moron.
Leaving aside the somewhat inaccurate description of Trump, it's not true to say that Obama was the most popular US president. Going by the gallup series, that accolade goes to George W Bush, who hit a 90% approval rating immediately post-9/11 (he also scored one of the lowest approval ratings in history, bottoming out at 25% - only Nixon and Truman have scored worse). By contrast, Obama never received a better than his inaugural rating of 67%. He did do well in avoiding deep negatives, never dropping below 40% - but Kennedy and Eisenhower did better.
According to a 2011 Gallup Obama was the 4th most popular post-war President with Reagan first then Clinton then Kennedy
I don't trust those sort of polls. They always skew to the present and recent past, as evidenced there. Clinton and Kennedy greater than Washington or FDR?! Slight lack of historical perspective there, I think.
Well that is always going to be the case in that polling favours more recent leaders a bit more than those from centuries past but as I only looked at post-war presidents the point still stands (though Lincoln came second)
Pretty well meaningless. Any poll which doesn't have Washington and Lincoln at the top has no sense of historical perspective. I'd put FDR third, and struggle to come up with a clear fourth.
Thomas Jefferson.
Jefferson' legacy was as divided as that of LBJ. Certainly one of the most consequential presidents, but a clear fourth best ? If you're prepared to ignore the expansion of slavery, perhaps.
If you are ignoring the post war thing Teddy Roosevelt for me.
The costs quoted seem rather high too. I can fly to Capetown a lot cheaper than £2500 and find a hotel for less than £350 per night quite easily.
My own study leave budget, including course fees is £800 per year, so often self fund conferences.
Guido is saying that every academic institution funded by the DoH is sending representatives to the conference. He’s probably also assuming that they’ll be taking the 11 hour flight in the comfy seats and that the hotels in town will set their rates for the conference.
Sunlight is always a good thing though, maybe people might ask the institutions concerned for the actual costs of what appears to be little more than a jolly.
Hard working doctors might not appreciate the extent to which those on the civil service, academia and NGOs take the piss with these conferences.
It is a conference, and academic researchers go to conferences. International conferences have to be held somewhere and that somewhere will be abroad for some but not all attendees. Guido is getting upset about £150,000 (inflated to £250k by including salaries) between 35 people. It is peanuts, and there is no direct charge to the DoH anyway.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
I'm saying that many Remainers think they can make offensive, belittling comments on the net that they wouldn't have the balls to stand up and say in the real world.
Thank goodness that we have Leavers leading the way in civilized discourse.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
This is totally unpleasant and unnecessary. Moderation please.
Or in other words, Verhofstadt providing yet more evidence that he’s a fanatical, rude and dangerous piece of proverbial. Acts like this increase the probability of a no deal Brexit.
The EU public pronouncemts seem to be talking straight past us, if they carry on with this attitude they won’t be getting a deal and won’t be getting a £40bn cheque.
Let’s hope the adults are still talking behind the scenes.
Especially as Brussels is already "its biggest centre of operations".
No trace of confirmation bias there. No sirree.
But 83,000 jobs lost? What are we talking about here - closing down the NHS?
As we were told on 24/06/16:
' If you perchance thought that your London banking job would be safe with Britain outside the European Union, you were seemingly wrong. Consultants working for leading strategy firms in London say banks have activated their contingency plans and that the London job cuts are about to come thick and fast.
“You’re looking at anything from 50,000 to 70,000 London finance jobs being moved overseas in the next 12 months,” predicts one consultant working with one of the top finance strategy firms in the City. “Jobs are going to be cut, and those cuts are going to start next week.” '
I'd be interested to know how many London banking jobs there are now compared to before the Referendum.
Of course there have been thousands of banking jobs lost before and since then but they were prole jobs in prole towns and caused by branch closures and therefore deemed unimportant.
I checked at the start of the year (though the figures were up to about August 2017 IIRC) and there are more financial services jobs than in June 2016.
They've said there would be job cuts every week for the last 80 weeks.
Sure it might now happen - but it hasn't happened yet.
I expect there will be job cuts in some areas (or perhaps jobs not replaced as people leave) but job increases in others.
I would say that AI and globalisation are bigger threats to London banking than Brexit.
Already back office jobs were being moved out of London into cheaper English locations.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
The costs quoted seem rather high too. I can fly to Capetown a lot cheaper than £2500 and find a hotel for less than £350 per night quite easily.
My own study leave budget, including course fees is £800 per year, so often self fund conferences.
Guido is saying that every academic institution funded by the DoH is sending representatives to the conference. He’s probably also assuming that they’ll be taking the 11 hour flight in the comfy seats and that the hotels in town will set their rates for the conference.
Sunlight is always a good thing though, maybe people might ask the institutions concerned for the actual costs of what appears to be little more than a jolly.
Hard working doctors might not appreciate the extent to which those on the civil service, academia and NGOs take the piss with these conferences.
It is a conference, and academic researchers go to conferences. International conferences have to be held somewhere and that somewhere will be abroad for some but not all attendees. Guido is getting upset about £150,000 (inflated to £250k by including salaries) between 35 people. It is peanuts, and there is no direct charge to the DoH anyway.
I for one am very surprised that it is the World Conference on Tobacco or Health that has been targeted. I am struggling to think of any interest group that would be opposed to this conference.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
If the Leavers got some of the Russkies involved that were so helpful during the Brexit campaign, they'd be in with a shout.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
This is totally unpleasant and unnecessary. Moderation please.
And a chair and some smelling salts for RoyalBlue, who has a case of the vapours after being exposed to something so terribly horrid.
Hammond highly negative and Rudd slightly negative - who was it who called ConservativeHome 'Continuity UKIP'?
Hunt third most favourable and backed Remain, Lidington and Hinds and Hancock also former Remainers and in the top 10. Staunch Leaver Leadsom in the bottom half of the rankings
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
If the Leavers got some of the Russkies involved that were so helpful during the Brexit campaign, they'd be in with a shout.
All the remainers need is a few Irish republicans, what's a few nail bombs between friends?
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
If the Leavers got some of the Russkies involved that were so helpful during the Brexit campaign, they'd be in with a shout.
Well, given that everyone under 30 would be off the field of battle in their "safe space".....
And who needs Russkies when we've got the White Van Man Mechanised Division?
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
But how did the good supporters who attend Ibrox Park vote ?
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
If the Leavers got some of the Russkies involved that were so helpful during the Brexit campaign, they'd be in with a shout.
Well, given that everyone under 30 would be off the field of battle in their "safe space".....
And who needs Russkies when we've got the White Van Man Mechanised Division?
The pendulum is swinging in much greater arcs that it's ever done before. The most charming and popular US President has been replaced by a redneck vulgarian moron.
Leaving aside the somewhat inaccurate description of Trump, it's not true to say that Obama was the most popular US president. Going by the gallup series, that accolade goes to George W Bush, who hit a 90% approval rating immediately post-9/11 (he also scored one of the lowest approval ratings in history, bottoming out at 25% - only Nixon and Truman have scored worse). By contrast, Obama never received a better than his inaugural rating of 67%. He did do well in avoiding deep negatives, never dropping below 40% - but Kennedy and Eisenhower did better.
According to a 2011 Gallup Obama was the 4th most popular post-war President with Reagan first then Clinton then Kennedy
I don't trust those sort of polls. They always skew to the present and recent past, as evidenced there. Clinton and Kennedy greater than Washington or FDR?! Slight lack of historical perspective there, I think.
Yep. FDR won 4 terms. Doubt even Kennedy would have sustained his popularity that long.
Kennedy remains popular because he was good looking and had the fortune to get shot before it went wrong in Vietnam and with Civil Rights. Ask people what he did and you might get some vague notion of national renewal or avoiding nuclear war, which while not insignificant, is a pretty low bar.
JFK's speeches are better known than his record in office.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
I'm saying that many Remainers think they can make offensive, belittling comments on the net that they wouldn't have the balls to stand up and say in the real world.
But that is a common trait amongst the general population, and I'd suggest there is no difference *in total* between remainers and leavers in this regard.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Thankfully we can depend on malc to do a temporary transfer for the day.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
But how did the good supporters who attend Ibrox Park vote ?
They backed Remain. They love supporting the Huns.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Oh, the stereotyping..... *feints*
But we'd have endless supplies of tea and cake.
"Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that"
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
I'm saying that many Remainers think they can make offensive, belittling comments on the net that they wouldn't have the balls to stand up and say in the real world.
But that is a common trait amongst the general population, and I'd suggest there is no difference *in total* between remainers and leavers in this regard.
The costs quoted seem rather high too. I can fly to Capetown a lot cheaper than £2500 and find a hotel for less than £350 per night quite easily.
My own study leave budget, including course fees is £800 per year, so often self fund conferences.
Guido is saying that every academic institution funded by the DoH is sending representatives to the conference. He’s probably also assuming that they’ll be taking the 11 hour flight in the comfy seats and that the hotels in town will set their rates for the conference.
Sunlight is always a good thing though, maybe people might ask the institutions concerned for the actual costs of what appears to be little more than a jolly.
Hard working doctors might not appreciate the extent to which those on the civil service, academia and NGOs take the piss with these conferences.
Really?
The programme seems to be of quite a serious academic nature:
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
But how did the good supporters who attend Ibrox Park vote ?
They backed Remain. They love supporting the Huns.
Oh dear TSE - using offensive sectarian language - to the gulag with you for re-education.
"Offensive sectarian language is still used in Scotland on a daily basis, with abusive terms such as “H*n” and “Orange b*stard” being used negatively against Protestants (or those perceived to be)
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”.
That’s not being a “democrat”, that’s just a nihilist attack on anyone or anything that articulates inconvenient opinions or facts.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
But how did the good supporters who attend Ibrox Park vote ?
They backed Remain. They love supporting the Huns.
Oh dear TSE - using offensive sectarian language - to the gulag with you for re-education.
"Offensive sectarian language is still used in Scotland on a daily basis, with abusive terms such as “H*n” and “Orange b*stard” being used negatively against Protestants (or those perceived to be)
Oh. I’m not really up with Rangers, they’ve only been around since 2012.
If they had been around for longer like Celtic I might know more like them.
All I know about Rangers is that all their fans have their PIN as 1690.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Oh, the stereotyping..... *feints*
But we'd have endless supplies of tea and cake.
"Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that"
Oh, the stereotyping.....
Indeed! Is Marquee Mark suggesting that the decrepit and deluded are most likely to be found in Hull and Stoke pubs?
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”.
That’s not being a “democrat”, that’s just a nihilist attack on anyone or anything that articulates inconvenient opinions or facts.
Absolutely.
This denigration of the French is disgusting and only got worse since the referendum.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
But how did the good supporters who attend Ibrox Park vote ?
They backed Remain. They love supporting the Huns.
Oh dear TSE - using offensive sectarian language - to the gulag with you for re-education.
"Offensive sectarian language is still used in Scotland on a daily basis, with abusive terms such as “H*n” and “Orange b*stard” being used negatively against Protestants (or those perceived to be)
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Oh, the stereotyping..... *feints*
But we'd have endless supplies of tea and cake.
"Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that"
Oh, the stereotyping.....
Indeed! Is Marquee Mark suggesting that the decrepit and deluded are most likely to be found in Hull and Stoke pubs?
To be fair Stoke is an absolute shit hole.
Only the deluded or decrepit would want to live there.
I really do hate Emily Thornberry’s England centric outlook.
Why isn’t she calling for Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland to boycott the World Cup in Russia?
I expect Lady Nugee is a big football fan - her borough covers Arsenal.
If England did pull out of the tournament would they be replaced by one of the four European teams who missed out in the playoffs - including Northern Ireland and the Republic? Or does their group just go down to 3 teams?
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Oh, the stereotyping..... *feints*
But we'd have endless supplies of tea and cake.
"Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that"
Oh, the stereotyping.....
Indeed! Is Marquee Mark suggesting that the decrepit and deluded are most likely to be found in Hull and Stoke pubs?
To be fair Stoke is an absolute shit hole.
Only the deluded or decrepit would want to live there.
Stoke is a nice easy target for those making a lazy jest.The Potteries is actually a very interesting area with signs of economic recovery and creativity as well as post-industrial poverty. There is much that is attractive as well as parts that I concede currently fall into the shit hole category.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Leavers.
Leavers as they would keep asking if they could arrange the ruck for another year.
The pendulum is swinging in much greater arcs that it's ever done before. The most charming and popular US President has been replaced by a redneck vulgarian moron.
Leaving aside the somewhat inaccurate description of Trump, it's not true to say that Obama was the most popular US president. Going by the gallup series, that accolade goes to George W Bush, who hit a 90% approval rating immediately post-9/11 (he also scored one of the lowest approval ratings in history, bottoming out at 25% - only Nixon and Truman have scored worse). By contrast, Obama never received a better than his inaugural rating of 67%. He did do well in avoiding deep negatives, never dropping below 40% - but Kennedy and Eisenhower did better.
According to a 2011 Gallup Obama was the 4th most popular post-war President with Reagan first then Clinton then Kennedy
I don't trust those sort of polls. They always skew to the present and recent past, as evidenced there. Clinton and Kennedy greater than Washington or FDR?! Slight lack of historical perspective there, I think.
Well that is always going to be the case in that polling favours more recent leaders a bit more than those from centuries past but as I only looked at post-war presidents the point still stands (though Lincoln came second)
Lincoln coming second is justifiable, if it's to someone like Washington or Franklin Roosevelt. Reagan, while a better-than-average president, however, is a different matter.
Or in other words, Verhofstadt providing yet more evidence that he’s a fanatical, rude and dangerous piece of proverbial. Acts like this increase the probability of a no deal Brexit.
Thing is, "no deal is better than a bad deal" applies much more to the EU than it does to the UK. From their point of view, a bad deal is an existential threat, whereas no deal just means some, probably temporary, economic hardship. They would much rather have no deal than a deal which appears to give an undue advantage to the UK. If the UK does not understand this, then the outcome will be no deal.
The pendulum is swinging in much greater arcs that it's ever done before. The most charming and popular US President has been replaced by a redneck vulgarian moron.
Leaving aside the somewhat inaccurate description of Trump, it's not true to say that Obama was the most popular US president. Going by the gallup series, that accolade goes to George W Bush, who hit a 90% approval rating immediately post-9/11 (he also scored one of the lowest approval ratings in history, bottoming out at 25% - only Nixon and Truman have scored worse). By contrast, Obama never received a better than his inaugural rating of 67%. He did do well in avoiding deep negatives, never dropping below 40% - but Kennedy and Eisenhower did better.
According to a 2011 Gallup Obama was the 4th most popular post-war President with Reagan first then Clinton then Kennedy
I don't trust those sort of polls. They always skew to the present and recent past, as evidenced there. Clinton and Kennedy greater than Washington or FDR?! Slight lack of historical perspective there, I think.
Well that is always going to be the case in that polling favours more recent leaders a bit more than those from centuries past but as I only looked at post-war presidents the point still stands (though Lincoln came second)
Pretty well meaningless. Any poll which doesn't have Washington and Lincoln at the top has no sense of historical perspective. I'd put FDR third, and struggle to come up with a clear fourth.
Thomas Jefferson.
Jefferson as president is massively overrated. Rather like Grant, he gets a huge bonus from having done great things outside his presidency.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Oh, the stereotyping..... *feints*
But we'd have endless supplies of tea and cake.
"Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that"
Oh, the stereotyping.....
Indeed! Is Marquee Mark suggesting that the decrepit and deluded are most likely to be found in Hull and Stoke pubs?
I've been taken to some nice pubs in the Stoke area.
I really do hate Emily Thornberry’s England centric outlook.
Why isn’t she calling for Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland to boycott the World Cup in Russia?
I expect Lady Nugee is a big football fan - her borough covers Arsenal.
If England did pull out of the tournament would they be replaced by one of the four European teams who missed out in the playoffs - including Northern Ireland and the Republic? Or does their group just go down to 3 teams?
Through gritted teeth, I'd have to say it should be Slovakia.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
I look forward to the next pb.com gathering being held in a pub in Stoke, where our Remainers will be encouraged to be full and frank on their views about those who voted for Brexit....
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Leavers.
Leavers as they would keep asking if they could arrange the ruck for another year.
Whilst the Remainers would be wanting yet ANOTHER referendum on whether we should be having the ruck at all....
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Oh, the stereotyping..... *feints*
But we'd have endless supplies of tea and cake.
"Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that"
Oh, the stereotyping.....
Indeed! Is Marquee Mark suggesting that the decrepit and deluded are most likely to be found in Hull and Stoke pubs?
I've been taken to some nice pubs in the Stoke area.
Admittedly, Hull - not so much...
Beverley near Hull is good, also has horse racing there.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Oh, the stereotyping..... *feints*
But we'd have endless supplies of tea and cake.
"Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that"
Oh, the stereotyping.....
Indeed! Is Marquee Mark suggesting that the decrepit and deluded are most likely to be found in Hull and Stoke pubs?
I've been taken to some nice pubs in the Stoke area.
Admittedly, Hull - not so much...
Beverley near Hull is good, also has horse racing there.
Beverley isn't Hull! To be fair to Hull, neither is Withernsea.....
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
So says a woman. <-- Accurate, but still offensive.
You knew *exactly* what you were doing when you called him French.
I look forward to the next pb.com gathering being held in a pub in Stoke, where our Remainers will be encouraged to be full and frank on their views about those who voted for Brexit....
It’s highly dishonourable for well-heeled Brexiteers to hide behind a human shield of ordinary voters to avoid being held to account for their own poor judgement.
They told everyone to put everything they own on an old nag called ‘Take Back Control’ who now lies crippled at Becher's Brook, and now want to deflect the blame.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
So says a woman. <-- Accurate, but still offensive.
You knew *exactly* what you were doing when you called him French.</p>
So calling someone 'French' is to denigrate them?
Its a view, not one I share, but there we are.....
It wouldn't come to a fight. The Royal Brigade of Snowflakes in the Remain vanguard would crumble and run at the first micro-aggression and seek a safe space.
Even I'm getting bored with Brexit now. It's been fun to tease them, but it's too easy now. Come on, Remainers, time to accept the result with good grace, and we'll do our best to be magnanimous.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Leavers.
It would cost a fortune to lay on the toilets. Especially for the leaver side.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
I look forward to the next pb.com gathering being held in a pub in Stoke, where our Remainers will be encouraged to be full and frank on their views about those who voted for Brexit....
Plymouth Moor View was the most leavery constituency in your neck of the woods
I look forward to the next pb.com gathering being held in a pub in Stoke, where our Remainers will be encouraged to be full and frank on their views about those who voted for Brexit....
It’s highly dishonourable for well-heeled Brexiteers to hide behind a human shield of ordinary voters to avoid being held to account for their own poor judgement.
They told everyone to put everything they own on an old nag called ‘Take Back Control’ who now lies crippled at Becher's Brook, and now want to deflect the blame.
And now, rather than stand, naked to the waist on Salisbury Plain, challenging any and all Remainers to come and have a go, it seems instead Mark wants the good burghers of Hull and Stoke to perpetrate the violence on his behalf.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Bear in mind us remainers would be fielding most of Scotland, who are more than handy in a punch-up.
Oh, the stereotyping..... *feints*
But we'd have endless supplies of tea and cake.
"Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that"
Oh, the stereotyping.....
Indeed! Is Marquee Mark suggesting that the decrepit and deluded are most likely to be found in Hull and Stoke pubs?
I've been taken to some nice pubs in the Stoke area.
Admittedly, Hull - not so much...
Beverley near Hull is good, also has horse racing there.
Beverley isn't Hull! To be fair to Hull, neither is Withernsea.....
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
What did I write that was inaccurate?
Implying that him being French or the "ex" head of the LSE had anything to do with the projection on jobs. The projection was made well before he left and well before there was any trouble for him.
If anything the projection was probably coloured by the fact that there was a merger between LSE and Deutsch Börse which had no chance of going through after a leave vote.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Leavers.
It would cost a fortune to lay on the toilets. Especially for the leaver side.
Is that because remainers shit their pants at the first sign of trouble?
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
What did I write that was inaccurate?
I said you were doing him down, not defaming him. Everyone on here knows what you meant. It’s not a big deal, but it’s sad that you carry on this way, day after day.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Max don't be a blockhead. It is fun rhetoric but they are seeking to minimise the damage and maximise the welfare done to their country. As they are paid to do.
If you really do think they are traitors it betrays a woeful lack of intelligence on your part concerning the current socio-economo-political environment.
But as I say it is fun to write on an internet chatroom.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Traitors to whom? It’s really dangerous language to use, and I wish you wouldn’t.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Traitors to whom? It’s really dangerous language to use, and I wish you wouldn’t.
To the party, and by extension the country, given the alternative.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Max don't be a blockhead. It is fun rhetoric but they are seeking to minimise the damage and maximise the welfare done to their country. As they are paid to do.
If you really do think they are traitors it betrays a woeful lack of intelligence on your part concerning the current socio-economo-political environment.
But as I say it is fun to write on an internet chatroom.
They are seeking to overturn the democratic vote through the backdoor.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
It does sound as if you're saying that many leavers are violent thugs who cannot take criticism ...
The prospect of an overflowing colostomy bag or displaced wig is generally an impediment to Leaver fisticuffs.
In a giant great ruck on Salisbury Plain - Leavers on one side, Remainers on the other - who would your money be on to get a battering?
Leavers.
It would cost a fortune to lay on the toilets. Especially for the leaver side.
Is that because remainers shit their pants at the first sign of trouble?
That's a bit rich, coming from someone who fled the country when your side won.
Tricky for the media to keep up. Previously they could just search replace hard-line union plot with hard-line momentum plot... but now they're fighting each other!?
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Max don't be a blockhead. It is fun rhetoric but they are seeking to minimise the damage and maximise the welfare done to their country. As they are paid to do.
If you really do think they are traitors it betrays a woeful lack of intelligence on your part concerning the current socio-economo-political environment.
But as I say it is fun to write on an internet chatroom.
They are seeking to overturn the democratic vote through the backdoor.
No they aren't. They are MPs and are doing what they believe is appropriate within the confines of the legal and regulatory system, to achieve an outcome they believe will benefit the country.
The pendulum is swinging in much greater arcs that it's ever done before. The most charming and popular US President has been replaced by a redneck vulgarian moron.
Leaving aside the somewhat inaccurate description of Trump, it's not true to say that Obama was the most popular US president. Going by the gallup series, that accolade goes to George W Bush, who hit a 90% approval rating immediately post-9/11 (he also scored one of the lowest approval ratings in history, bottoming out at 25% - only Nixon and Truman have scored worse). By contrast, Obama never received a better than his inaugural rating of 67%. He did do well in avoiding deep negatives, never dropping below 40% - but Kennedy and Eisenhower did better.
According to a 2011 Gallup Obama was the 4th most popular post-war President with Reagan first then Clinton then Kennedy
I don't trust those sort of polls. They always skew to the present and recent past, as evidenced there. Clinton and Kennedy greater than Washington or FDR?! Slight lack of historical perspective there, I think.
Well that is always going to be the case in that polling favours more recent leaders a bit more than those from centuries past but as I only looked at post-war presidents the point still stands (though Lincoln came second)
Lincoln coming second is justifiable, if it's to someone like Washington or Franklin Roosevelt. Reagan, while a better-than-average president, however, is a different matter.
Which as I have already stated was irrelevant for the likes of Lincoln, Washington etc as no voters were alive when they were President and there was no polling in the 18th and 19th centuries either.
Which was why I only looked at the polling numbers for post-war presidents
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Traitors to whom? It’s really dangerous language to use, and I wish you wouldn’t.
To the party, and by extension the country, given the alternative.
So Tory backbenchers should do anything the government tells them to, for fear of Corbyn?
That’s not democracy, it’s dictatorship.
It’s not treachery, it’s just called doing your job as an MP. And as much as I hate Corbyn, 40% of the country voted for his party too.
A journalist has just said the trade deal talks with Saudi are worth 100 billion. That is huge if true but I do not know much about trade with Saudi other than we have a lot of defence jobs in the UK depending on a good relationship
To the party, and by extension the country, given the alternative.
The interests of the tory party and the country are not the same thing. The last year of the tory party negotiating with itself have vividly demonstrated that if nothing else.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Traitors to whom? It’s really dangerous language to use, and I wish you wouldn’t.
To the party, and by extension the country, given the alternative.
So Tory backbenchers should do anything the government tells them to, for fear of Corbyn?
That’s not democracy, it’s dictatorship.
It’s not treachery, it’s just called doing your job as an MP. And as much as I hate Corbyn, 40% of the country voted for his party too.
No, they should do what the people have told them to do.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Max don't be a blockhead. It is fun rhetoric but they are seeking to minimise the damage and maximise the welfare done to their country. As they are paid to do.
If you really do think they are traitors it betrays a woeful lack of intelligence on your part concerning the current socio-economo-political environment.
But as I say it is fun to write on an internet chatroom.
They are seeking to overturn the democratic vote through the backdoor.
No they aren't. They are MPs and are doing what they believe is appropriate within the confines of the legal and regulatory system, to achieve an outcome they believe will benefit the country.
They are MPs who handed the decision making process over to the people and are now trying their best to ignore the decision the people made because they don't agree with it and it doesn't serve their masters in Brussels.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Traitors to whom? It’s really dangerous language to use, and I wish you wouldn’t.
To the party, and by extension the country, given the alternative.
So Tory backbenchers should do anything the government tells them to, for fear of Corbyn?
That’s not democracy, it’s dictatorship.
It’s not treachery, it’s just called doing your job as an MP. And as much as I hate Corbyn, 40% of the country voted for his party too.
No, they should do what the people have told them to do.
Max you're having a shocker this morning. In the event of a Labour Party victory at the next election, should Jacob Rees-Mogg sign up to nationalisation of the hedge fund industry, and suchlike?
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Interesting that you've adopted the discourse of the extreme left.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Max don't be a blockhead. It is fun rhetoric but they are seeking to minimise the damage and maximise the welfare done to their country. As they are paid to do.
If you really do think they are traitors it betrays a woeful lack of intelligence on your part concerning the current socio-economo-political environment.
But as I say it is fun to write on an internet chatroom.
They are seeking to overturn the democratic vote through the backdoor.
No they aren't. They are MPs and are doing what they believe is appropriate within the confines of the legal and regulatory system, to achieve an outcome they believe will benefit the country.
They are MPs who handed the decision making process over to the people and are now trying their best to ignore the decision the people made because they don't agree with it and it doesn't serve their masters in Brussels.
Max you are teetering on embarrassing yourself here.
Is Michael O'Leary really threatening to ground his planes the morning after Brexit goes through to reach the Leavers a lesson? It's supposedly a Daily Mail story, but if true, I would be really offended and would boycott his airline if I hadn't already done so some years ago.
Go on, Michael, you can show Ratner how it's done.
Brexiters is an alliance of the decrepit, the duped
Big words, big man. Go into a pub in Hull and Stoke and start spouting that. See how long before the decrepit take exception and start, er, re-educating you on your assumptions....
Hardly a Remain trait. Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”. .
What did I write that was inaccurate?
The “doing down” was in your head.
No it wasn’t. It was even too much for Max “traitors” PB.
Hey, I call it as I see it. Those Tory MPs are traitors.
Traitors to whom? It’s really dangerous language to use, and I wish you wouldn’t.
To the party, and by extension the country, given the alternative.
So Tory backbenchers should do anything the government tells them to, for fear of Corbyn?
That’s not democracy, it’s dictatorship.
It’s not treachery, it’s just called doing your job as an MP. And as much as I hate Corbyn, 40% of the country voted for his party too.
No, they should do what the people have told them to do.
Max you're having a shocker this morning. In the event of a Labour Party victory at the next election, should Jacob Rees-Mogg sign up to nationalisation of the hedge fund industry, and suchlike?
No, but I'd expect Jez's MPs to do so. In case you haven't noticed, I only consider the Tory MPs to be traitors, Labour are in the opposition. It is their job to oppose and ask the tough questions. That there are 12 Tories who are playing that game is a shame and hopefully they get deselected.
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Given no current voter was alive when Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson etc were President and virtually none now when FDR was President too polling on them can largely be discarded (indeed there was no polling in the 18th and 19th centuries)
Let’s hope the adults are still talking behind the scenes.
And who needs Russkies when we've got the White Van Man Mechanised Division?
Brexit has sent a few of our liberal elites completely insane.
They’d go into battle replete with kilts and win.
But we'd have endless supplies of tea and cake.
You evidently think otherwise.
https://twitter.com/Maomentum_/status/971313096789839872
https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/971300056400842754
Oh, the stereotyping.....
Why isn’t she calling for Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland to boycott the World Cup in Russia?
The programme seems to be of quite a serious academic nature:
http://www.professionalabstracts.com/wctoh2018/iplanner/#/grid/1520380800
With significant research on tobacco control measures such as plain packaging across the world, for the number one cause of cancer in the world.
Not my part of public health, but perfectly valid, and several of the people going are speaking, so may well be funded by the conference itself.
My last similar Jolly was to Liverpool last May, staying in a £60 hotel.
http://nilbymouth.org/history/
"Offensive sectarian language is still used in Scotland on a daily basis, with abusive terms such as “H*n” and “Orange b*stard” being used negatively against Protestants (or those perceived to be)
Anyway I was reacting to @CarlottaVance’s doing down of Xavier Rolet as if he was just some washed up “Frenchman”.
That’s not being a “democrat”, that’s just a nihilist attack on anyone or anything that articulates inconvenient opinions or facts.
If they had been around for longer like Celtic I might know more like them.
All I know about Rangers is that all their fans have their PIN as 1690.
This denigration of the French is disgusting and only got worse since the referendum.
Only the deluded or decrepit would want to live there.
https://twitter.com/JaneyGodley/status/971335854408036352
If England did pull out of the tournament would they be replaced by one of the four European teams who missed out in the playoffs - including Northern Ireland and the Republic? Or does their group just go down to 3 teams?
Admittedly, Hull - not so much...
The “doing down” was in your head.
You knew *exactly* what you were doing when you called him French.
They told everyone to put everything they own on an old nag called ‘Take Back Control’ who now lies crippled at Becher's Brook, and now want to deflect the blame.
Its a view, not one I share, but there we are.....
Even I'm getting bored with Brexit now. It's been fun to tease them, but it's too easy now. Come on, Remainers, time to accept the result with good grace, and we'll do our best to be magnanimous.
What did I write that was inaccurate?
If anything the projection was probably coloured by the fact that there was a merger between LSE and Deutsch Börse which had no chance of going through after a leave vote.
If you really do think they are traitors it betrays a woeful lack of intelligence on your part concerning the current socio-economo-political environment.
But as I say it is fun to write on an internet chatroom.
(*) Probably not in the next 30-40 years
Sheffield South East +6480 votes..
Previously they could just search replace hard-line union plot with hard-line momentum plot... but now they're fighting each other!?
I think you forgot to give a trigger warning.
Which was why I only looked at the polling numbers for post-war presidents
That’s not democracy, it’s dictatorship.
It’s not treachery, it’s just called doing your job as an MP. And as much as I hate Corbyn, 40% of the country voted for his party too.
Go on, Michael, you can show Ratner how it's done.