There are some heavy goings on in Saudi Arabia over the 24 hours, large number of arrests and detentions on basis of 'corruption' amongst Royal family types and now it appears a plane carrying one of the princes plus officials has crashed.
Maybe pure coincidence but maybe not.
One expert reckons the country is at its most volatile now as at any other time over the last 40 to 50 years.
Just one little sub text in the Paradise Papers. Wilbur Ross, long suspected of having somewhat too close ties to some Russian concerns may have been exposed. He is the current US Commerce Secretary.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
There are some heavy goings on in Saudi Arabia over the 24 hours, large number of arrests and detentions on basis of 'corruption' amongst Royal family types and now it appears a plane carrying one of the princes plus officials has crashed.
Maybe pure coincidence but maybe not.
One expert reckons the country is at its most volatile now as at any other time over the last 40 to 50 years.
Just one little sub text in the Paradise Papers. Wilbur Ross, long suspected of having somewhat too close ties to some Russian concerns may have been exposed. He is the current US Commerce Secretary.
Where can I read more about this?
All over the newswires, its appears the Crown Prince Mohammad is doing a Night of the Long Knives. You'll find overview piece at the Guardian of the arrests.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
I fully accept that I'm a hypocrite for using them, for me it's a convenience rather than cost thing. But the fact is it's these egregious examples - 15m on 7bn FFS! - that are the problem. Not Lord Ashcroft and whether Her Majesty has a dodgy flat in Panama.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
I fully accept that I'm a hypocrite for using them, for me it's a convenience rather than cost thing. But the fact is it's these egregious examples - 15m on 7bn FFS! - that are the problem. Not Lord Ashcroft and whether Her Majesty has a dodgy flat in Panama.
Clearly the individual incentives for consumers are always going to push us to buying cheap products even if it's morally dubious. That's why it's a good idea to have a government who regulates for the good of society as a whole; yeah, we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax, if this kind of avoidance can be clamped down on.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
I fully accept that I'm a hypocrite for using them, for me it's a convenience rather than cost thing. But the fact is it's these egregious examples - 15m on 7bn FFS! - that are the problem. Not Lord Ashcroft and whether Her Majesty has a dodgy flat in Panama.
Clearly the individual incentives for consumers are always going to push us to buying cheap products even if it's morally dubious. That's why it's a good idea to have a government who regulates for the good of society as a whole; yeah, we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax, if this kind of avoidance can be clamped down on.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
I fully accept that I'm a hypocrite for using them, for me it's a convenience rather than cost thing. But the fact is it's these egregious examples - 15m on 7bn FFS! - that are the problem. Not Lord Ashcroft and whether Her Majesty has a dodgy flat in Panama.
I think they are all a problem but dealing with it needs International co-operation as the BBC have just said and frankly I have little confidence in that succeeding anymore than Corbyn could get the agreement needed either
If you use Amazon regularly you can mitigate things by book marking an Affinity link for a charity you like. Click through from that and 5% to 8% of your pre VAT spend will go to your Charity. If it's convenient use the Local Collect option to have parcel deliveries made to your local Post Office for collection. This generates a bit of revenue for a public service.
One other mitigating tactic for physical book purchases is to check out the second hand options it will prompt you with. These are very often from independent and/or charity booksellers using the Marketplace. Once you get past the books not being pristine you'll not notice the difference with new ones.
If you use Amazon regularly you can mitigate things by book marking an Affinity link for a charity you like. Click through from that and 5% to 8% of your pre VAT spend will go to your Charity. If it's convenient use the Local Collect option to have parcel deliveries made to your local Post Office for collection. This generates a bit of revenue for a public service.
One other mitigating tactic for physical book purchases is to check out the second hand options it will prompt you with. These are very often from independent and/or charity booksellers using the Marketplace. Once you get past the books not being pristine you'll not notice the difference with new ones.
Ok your first suggestion, it seems as though that doesn’t harm Amazon one bit. It only harms the exchequer.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
I fully accept that I'm a hypocrite for using them, for me it's a convenience rather than cost thing. But the fact is it's these egregious examples - 15m on 7bn FFS! - that are the problem. Not Lord Ashcroft and whether Her Majesty has a dodgy flat in Panama.
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"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
If you use Amazon regularly you can mitigate things by book marking an Affinity link for a charity you like. Click through from that and 5% to 8% of your pre VAT spend will go to your Charity. If it's convenient use the Local Collect option to have parcel deliveries made to your local Post Office for collection. This generates a bit of revenue for a public service.
One other mitigating tactic for physical book purchases is to check out the second hand options it will prompt you with. These are very often from independent and/or charity booksellers using the Marketplace. Once you get past the books not being pristine you'll not notice the difference with new ones.
To be honest we rarely buy books. The local collection points are a good idea but in practice most of our neighbours use Amazon and we all receive parcels as an alternative if someone is out
As far a charity donations are concerned we only support local charities apart from the RNLI which we support through our lifeboat station and their shop
If you use Amazon regularly you can mitigate things by book marking an Affinity link for a charity you like. Click through from that and 5% to 8% of your pre VAT spend will go to your Charity. If it's convenient use the Local Collect option to have parcel deliveries made to your local Post Office for collection. This generates a bit of revenue for a public service.
One other mitigating tactic for physical book purchases is to check out the second hand options it will prompt you with. These are very often from independent and/or charity booksellers using the Marketplace. Once you get past the books not being pristine you'll not notice the difference with new ones.
Ok your first suggestion, it seems as though that doesn’t harm Amazon one bit. It only harms the exchequer.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
I fully accept that I'm a hypocrite for using them, for me it's a convenience rather than cost thing. But the fact is it's these egregious examples - 15m on 7bn FFS! - that are the problem. Not Lord Ashcroft and whether Her Majesty has a dodgy flat in Panama.
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"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
If you use Amazon regularly you can mitigate things by book marking an Affinity link for a charity you like. Click through from that and 5% to 8% of your pre VAT spend will go to your Charity. If it's convenient use the Local Collect option to have parcel deliveries made to your local Post Office for collection. This generates a bit of revenue for a public service.
One other mitigating tactic for physical book purchases is to check out the second hand options it will prompt you with. These are very often from independent and/or charity booksellers using the Marketplace. Once you get past the books not being pristine you'll not notice the difference with new ones.
Ok your first suggestion, it seems as though that doesn’t harm Amazon one bit. It only harms the exchequer.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
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That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
I fully accept that I'm a hypocrite for using them, for me it's a convenience rather than cost thing. But the fact is it's these egregious examples - 15m on 7bn FFS! - that are the problem. Not Lord Ashcroft and whether Her Majesty has a dodgy flat in Panama.
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"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
When societies become sufficiently unequal, and people think that they are being cheated, then the seed is set for revolution. France 1789, Russia 1917, Iran 1979.
Like most, I shop on Amazon, but it doesn't mean that I like the way that they operate.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
.
.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact they use loopholes where they exist does not change that and the lowest earners now pay no income tax at all.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
.
.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact they use loopholes where they exist does not change that and the lowest earners now pay no income tax at all.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
The lowest earners can't earn enough to put a roof over their heads and have no hope of accumulating their own capital.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
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.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact they use loopholes where they exist does not change that and the lowest earners now pay no income tax at all.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
The lowest earners can't earn enough to put a roof over their heads and have no hope of accumulating their own capital.
The system is f*cked.
The lowest earners have been taken out of income tax altogether and have seen an increase in the minimum wage.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
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.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact they use loopholes where they exist does not change that and the lowest earners now pay no income tax at all.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
The French nobility were using legitimate loopholes too. It didn't save them.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
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.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They.
The French nobility were using legitimate loopholes too. It didn't save them.
Utter rubbish, for starters virtually nobody had the vote in pre revolutionary France, there was no welfare state, no minimum wage and no health service, just a bit of charity from the Church.
Loopholes are also available to everyone if they want to use them, even if obviously they are more beneficial the more assets you have.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
.
.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact they use loopholes where they exist does not change that and the lowest earners now pay no income tax at all.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
The lowest earners can't earn enough to put a roof over their heads and have no hope of accumulating their own capital.
The system is f*cked.
The lowest earners have been taken out of income tax altogether and have seen an increase in the minimum wage.
The lowest earners do though still pay VAT, and being low earners pretty much all of their income is spent (rather than saved). So let us not pretend that low earners pay no tax.
I see that the Guardian has once again gone bonkers. The lead story appears to be that the Duchy of Lancaster indirectly made a tiny investment in a chain of wine merchants, which subsequently went bust. Apparently we are supposed to think that this was a scandal, rather than just a poor investment.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
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"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact they use loopholes where they exist does not change that and the lowest earners now pay no income tax at all.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
The lowest earners can't earn enough to put a roof over their heads and have no hope of accumulating their own capital.
The system is f*cked.
The lowest earners have been taken out of income tax altogether and have seen an increase in the minimum wage.
The lowest earners do though still pay VAT though, and being low earners pretty much all of their income is spent (rather than saved). So let us not pretend that low earners pay no tax.
So, everyone else pays income tax and VAT. If they save more they pay less VAT.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
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"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact they use loopholes where they exist does not change that and the lowest earners now pay no income tax at all.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
The French nobility were using legitimate loopholes too. It didn't save them.
I don't know that comparing what might be an unreasonable situation now literally with pre-revolutionary French nobility really helps - people get angry at the rich and privileged, but we know that they are not literally the same as pre-revolution french nobility.
Since that is a ludicrous comparison, it undermines legitimate concerns, and comparing to other historical revolutions only makes other resist reasonable moves, since people hoping for such comparison clearly want to do a lot more than merely fix specific problems with tax or whatever, they want to destroy our entire systems, which however flawed are not Russia in 1917 either.
This really has to be a fake poll Kieran. Apart from the handful of Brexit obsessives on this site and Liam Fox, who the fuck remotely, in her right mind, thinks Brexit was/is/ever could be in any way, shape or form a good idea? You have to be quite fucking bonkers to think so.
I see that the Guardian has once again gone bonkers. The lead story appears to be that the Duchy of Lancaster indirectly made a tiny investment in a chain of wine merchants, which subsequently went bust. Apparently we are supposed to think that this was a scandal, rather than just a poor investment.
Don’t forget the £3k invested in bright house.....they actually led with that in the initial story.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
.
.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact they use loopholes where they exist does not change that and the lowest earners now pay no income tax at all.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
The lowest earners can't earn enough to put a roof over their heads and have no hope of accumulating their own capital.
The system is f*cked.
The lowest earners have been taken out of income tax altogether and have seen an increase in the minimum wage.
The lowest earners do though still pay VAT though, and being low earners pretty much all of their income is spent (rather than saved). So let us not pretend that low earners pay no tax.
So, everyone else pays income tax and VAT. If they save more they pay less VAT.
Ah, so your advice to low earners is 'save more'? Sounds like you've been taking lessons from Marie Antoinette!
I see that the Guardian has once again gone bonkers. The lead story appears to be that the Duchy of Lancaster indirectly made a tiny investment in a chain of wine merchants, which subsequently went bust. Apparently we are supposed to think that this was a scandal, rather than just a poor investment.
Don’t forget the £3k invested in bright house.....they actually led with that in the initial story.
I see that the Guardian has once again gone bonkers. The lead story appears to be that the Duchy of Lancaster indirectly made a tiny investment in a chain of wine merchants, which subsequently went bust. Apparently we are supposed to think that this was a scandal, rather than just a poor investment.
Don’t forget the £3k invested in bright house.....they actually led with that in the initial story.
£3K! I was falling asleep before I got that far.
Even the other people mentioned are a bit, "his second cousin's wife's friend's daughter"
I see that the Guardian has once again gone bonkers. The lead story appears to be that the Duchy of Lancaster indirectly made a tiny investment in a chain of wine merchants, which subsequently went bust. Apparently we are supposed to think that this was a scandal, rather than just a poor investment.
Don’t forget the £3k invested in bright house.....they actually led with that in the initial story.
£3K! I was falling asleep before I got that far.
£500m overall fund, £10m invested in this particular fund, which the guardian admits isn’t tax dodging and they lead with queen has £3k invested in scumbag (in their opinion) bright house. Rounding error is still overstating and apparently a scandal the paper pushers didn’t know they had this massive indirect investment.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
@Fox.....why do you shop on Amazon if you do not like the way they operate?
I went to help clear a scout field today and ended up spending most of the morning picking up frogs and guiding them to safety. People couldn't even be bothered spending the time to be careful with their spades despite knowing that they were disturbing wildlife, and this is liberal Norwich.
What is it about human beings that we are such useless, nihilistic, degenerate fuckwits that don't really think through the consequences of our actions?
Having turned themselves in to the Belgian authorities in connection with Spain’s extradition request, the Catalan Five have insisted on a Flemish judge and for the court proceedings to be in Dutch, for which they need a translator. They could have chosen French, for which no translator would have been needed.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
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"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact
The lowest earners can't earn enough to put a roof over their heads and have no hope of accumulating their own capital.
The system is f*cked.
The lowest earners have been taken out of income tax altogether and have seen an increase in the minimum wage.
It is the highest earners exempting themselves from the taxes that ordinary Britons pay that are the trouble.
Once the discontent crystalises and enough of the middle class aligns with the dispossessed that upheaval occurs.
Historically the British elite were astute enough to reform just enough to prevent upheaval. That skill may not last forever. I speak of metaphorical tumbrils, rather than physical ones btw.
This really has to be a fake poll Kieran. Apart from the handful of Brexit obsessives on this site and Liam Fox, who the fuck remotely, in her right mind, thinks Brexit was/is/ever could be in any way, shape or form a good idea? You have to be quite fucking bonkers to think so.
It ain't fake.
Around half of Brits still think Brexit is a good idea.
It's only when it is revealed that brexit doesn't mean what they were led to believe it would mean that the leave voter coalition will crumble. We're not there yet.
This really has to be a fake poll Kieran. Apart from the handful of Brexit obsessives on this site and Liam Fox, who the fuck remotely, in her right mind, thinks Brexit was/is/ever could be in any way, shape or form a good idea? You have to be quite fucking bonkers to think so.
It ain't fake.
Around half of Brits still think Brexit is a good idea.
It's only when it is revealed that brexit doesn't mean what they were led to believe it would mean that the leave voter coalition will crumble.
What? Regaining sovereignty and reducing immigration is what they voted for and that alone.
Plus of course we are now moving towards a FTA with the EU.
I guess “has £3k invested indirectly in bright house” isn’t such a good headline. Barrel scraping doesn’t even begin to describe it, I would have thought with 500m invested they must have some significant indirect percentage of an arms dealer or something more scandalous.
If you use Amazon regularly you can mitigate things by book marking an Affinity link for a charity you like. Click through from that and 5% to 8% of your pre VAT spend will go to your Charity. If it's convenient use the Local Collect option to have parcel deliveries made to your local Post Office for collection. This generates a bit of revenue for a public service.
One other mitigating tactic for physical book purchases is to check out the second hand options it will prompt you with. These are very often from independent and/or charity booksellers using the Marketplace. Once you get past the books not being pristine you'll not notice the difference with new ones.
Or you can get them from your local library. Which, thru interlibrary lending, which covers even university libraries, can get damn nearly any book you want.
Around half of Brits still think Brexit is a good idea.
It's only when it is revealed that brexit doesn't mean what they were led to believe it would mean that the leave voter coalition will crumble. We're not there yet.
If it turns out the "settled will of the British public" was bought with Russian cash, do Brexiteer still think it should be pursued regardless?
Around half of Brits still think Brexit is a good idea.
It's only when it is revealed that brexit doesn't mean what they were led to believe it would mean that the leave voter coalition will crumble. We're not there yet.
If it turns out the "settled will of the British public" was bought with Russian cash, do Brexiteer still think it should be pursued regardless?
How may I ask did Russian cash buy leave - and by the way I voted remain but now want to leave as anything else betrays democracy
"Denmark’s minister for Immigration and Integration Inger Støjberg was hastily evacuated from the Sjælsmark deportation centre for rejected asylum seekers after tensions escalated during a tense visit to the facility."
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
.
.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact they use loopholes where they exist does not change that and the lowest earners now pay no income tax at all.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
The lowest earners can't earn enough to put a roof over their heads and have no hope of accumulating their own capital.
The system is f*cked.
The lowest earners have been taken out of income tax altogether and have seen an increase in the minimum wage.
The .
So, everyone else pays income tax and VAT. If they save more they pay less VAT.
Ah, so your advice to low earners is 'save more'? Sounds like you've been taking lessons from Marie Antoinette!
Well if they are that bothered about VAT yes or buy more frozen yoghurt, milk, herbal tea, coffee, frozen foods, mousse, tortialla chips etc which are exempt from VAT.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
As the Guardian admits, Queenie voluntary pays tax on this investment.
I am shocked, shocked to discover that rich people minimise their tax burdens.
When is someone going to take on Amazon, Starbucks, Apple et al? They're the real reason people are losing faith in capitalism.
I suppose it's too easy, too convenient. We like our cheap tat delivered cheaply. Amazon are happy to provide this, unlike Lord Ashcroft. So we give them a free pass.
Well just gone all Amazon Prime with fire stick and it seems a really good deal.
It's a great deal, unfortunately. I use them myself for the same reason. For me it's a convenience factor - they can have whatever I want delivered to the office, which saves me an inordinate amount of time - mostly little everyday necessities I would have to wait until the weekend to shop for, because the shops are shut by the time I leave work.
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
.
.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
It is like pre-revolutionary France, when the aristocracy were exempt from taxes and the laws that applied to the rest.
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
They are not 'exempt' from tax, the fact
The lowest earners can't earn enough to put a roof over their heads and have no hope of accumulating their own capital.
The system is f*cked.
The lowest earners have been taken out of income tax altogether and have seen an increase in the minimum wage.
It is the highest earners exempting themselves from the taxes that ordinary Britons pay that are the trouble.
Once the discontent crystalises and enough of the middle class aligns with the dispossessed that upheaval occurs.
Historically the British elite were astute enough to reform just enough to prevent upheaval. That skill may not last forever. I speak of metaphorical tumbrils, rather than physical ones btw.
They are not 'exempting' themselves from tax just using loopholes offered by the elected government of the day.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
At least I didn't move country for financial reasons.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
Fine words, tyson. Bravo!
Maybe its time for you to hand over your rental properties to the tenants.
Not all of them. Just one.
I mean, you’ll never miss it. And you don’t need the extra bucks.
The number of conservative MP's being investigated is growing daily.
I hope the party is lining up really good candidates for possible by elections, each one being female and one called Ruth would be fine
Mrs May has long wanted to bring some fresh young and more diverse faces up the Tory hierarchy. But I fear this latest of her increasingly cunning plans is having some unforeseen consequences?
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
I'm massively in favour of those with large amounts of capital spending it.
The economy is healthy when they do that. Wealth gets redistributed.
The problem comes when they don't spend, just accumulate and pass onto their own kids to further accumulate. They're taking advantage of the economic system to buy their own kids the future financial bondage of other peoples kids.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
At least I didn't move country for financial reasons.
The Bottom Line with Evan David was on Radio 4 last night and its topic was foreign direct investment in Britain: the factors influencing it and, inevitably, Brexit. 3 interviewees from BMW, Tata and a Chinese entrepreneur. Well worth half an hour of your time to listen to it on iPlayer.
Interesting analysis and the interviewees had a much more thoughtful and less hysterical analysis about Brexit than you might assume. Something to bear in mind when considering why businesses invest and how the outside world considers us.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
I'm massively in favour of those with large amounts of capital spending it.
The economy is healthy when they do that. Wealth gets redistributed.
The problem comes when they don't spend, just accumulate and pass onto their own kids to further accumulate. They're taking advantage of the economic system to buy their own kids the future financial bondage of other peoples kids.
That ain't right.
Uh no.
Actually ensuring their children are provided for at least to a basic level ensures their children will not need welfare and social housing and be a burden on taxpayers.
Plus spending vast amounts is only really helpful to the British economy if it is spent on British goods or British services.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
I'm massively in favour of those with large amounts of capital spending it.
The economy is healthy when they do that. Wealth gets redistributed.
The problem comes when they don't spend, just accumulate and pass onto their own kids to further accumulate. They're taking advantage of the economic system to buy their own kids the future financial bondage of other peoples kids.
That ain't right.
Yet we have a party in power which actively encourage this state of affairs.
Liberal Conservatism doesn't have to be like this.
Now everyone seems to have noticed that Russia is involved in very active attempts to cause as much conflict and chaos within Western democracies, suddenly they may be responsible for the Brexit result?
I remember how people thought that the view that we needed to face down Putin's regime with immense firmness was essentially provocative
Now they get it but only in the narrow confines of their own political bias because it suits.
Yes, have no doubts things to come will show how people within UKIP aligned camp (no names but Ive been on about it for months) have some kind of associations with Moscow but there is no evidence that the Russian shadow merchants shifted opinion or votes. Maybe more will emerge but there is no case on that account right now.
Trumpton
George Papadopoulos was in Greece at the same time as Putin and his coterie were there. Luck maybe. Maybe not.
Who did George meet in London by the way?
As a note downthread. Mike Flynn has been indicted for ages, the news is that charges may be about to be brought.
I am even more confused how it is anyway a scandal that Queenie had indirect investment in Threshers. All of us with pensions will have been invested in all sorts of businesses that have gone tits up.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
At least I didn't move country for financial reasons.
Fair enough (sort of)...I was happy in Italy...it was my wife that took fright after Brexit and wanted to come back to the UK.....
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
I'm massively in favour of those with large amounts of capital spending it.
The economy is healthy when they do that. Wealth gets redistributed.
The problem comes when they don't spend, just accumulate and pass onto their own kids to further accumulate. They're taking advantage of the economic system to buy their own kids the future financial bondage of other peoples kids.
That ain't right.
Yet we have a party in power which actively encourage this state of affairs.
Liberal Conservatism doesn't have to be like this.
There is no such thing as 'Liberal Conservatism' they are two contradictory terms.
Conservatism has always been in favour of the family and tradition and inheritance.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
I'm massively in favour of those with large amounts of capital spending it.
The economy is healthy when they do that. Wealth gets redistributed.
The problem comes when they don't spend, just accumulate and pass onto their own kids to further accumulate. They're taking advantage of the economic system to buy their own kids the future financial bondage of other peoples kids.
That ain't right.
Yet we have a party in power which actively encourage this state of affairs.
Liberal Conservatism doesn't have to be like this.
There is no such thing as 'Liberal Conservatism' they are two contradictory terms.
Conservatism has always been in favour of the family and tradition and inheritance.
Nice to know that it's "tradition" which will impoverish the county for the next generation to come, and breaks up families should one of them have committed the cardinal sin (in Tory eyes) of having married a non-UK EU citizen.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
At least I didn't move country for financial reasons.
Ouch.
Mate...I would like to see a vote where your wife was potentially cut off from all her assets and see what you felt like....
You and your ideological group of zealots are creating such damage for this country through your bonkers crusade against the EU....well done.
I am even more confused how it is anyway a scandal that Queenie had indirect investment in Threshers. All of us with pensions will have been invested in all sorts of businesses that have gone tits up.
Clearly the Guardian journalists have worked backwards from what they see as an incontrovertible truth that there must be some amazing scandals about the wicked elite in 13 million documents, and haven't quite adjusted to the fact that they don't actually seem to have found much.
They really are the mirror image of the Daily Mail.
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
I'm massively in favour of those with large amounts of capital spending it.
The economy is healthy when they do that. Wealth gets redistributed.
The problem comes when they don't spend, just accumulate and pass onto their own kids to further accumulate. They're taking advantage of the economic system to buy their own kids the future financial bondage of other peoples kids.
That ain't right.
Yet we have a party in power which actively encourage this state of affairs.
Liberal Conservatism doesn't have to be like this.
There is no such thing as 'Liberal Conservatism' they are two contradictory terms.
Conservatism has always been in favour of the family and tradition and inheritance.
Maybe once but more recently it has been all about greed and the market.
I am even more confused how it is anyway a scandal that Queenie had indirect investment in Threshers. All of us with pensions will have been invested in all sorts of businesses that have gone tits up.
Clearly the Guardian journalists have worked backwards from what they see as an incontrovertible truth that there must be some amazing scandals about the wicked elite in 13 million documents, and haven't quite adjusted to the fact that they don't actually seem to have found much.
They really are the mirror image of the Daily Mail.
They have found so little that the Times the Telegraph and the Mail have decided to completely ignore the story. Oh, wait...
Since it's confession week, I have to confess that I have invested in ETFs registered in Ireland. This clearly makes me a guilty tax-avoider in the Court of Public Opinion (along with almost any one else who has a pension fund) because ETFs choose Dublin as it is more tax-efficient than setting up in London.
Mate...the story is that ultra rich people are so greedy that they cannot face paying a penny extra even if they would never miss it. It just seems to be in the psyche of the greedy graspers who worship capital and want to protect their share at all costs.
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
I'm massively in favour of those with large amounts of capital spending it.
The economy is healthy when they do that. Wealth gets redistributed.
The problem comes when they don't spend, just accumulate and pass onto their own kids to further accumulate. They're taking advantage of the economic system to buy their own kids the future financial bondage of other peoples kids.
That ain't right.
Yet we have a party in power which actively encourage this state of affairs.
Liberal Conservatism doesn't have to be like this.
There is no such thing as 'Liberal Conservatism' they are two contradictory terms.
Conservatism has always been in favour of the family and tradition and inheritance.
Nice to know that it's "tradition" which will impoverish the county for the next generation to come, and breaks up families should one of them have committed the cardinal sin (in Tory eyes) of having married a non-UK EU citizen.
Brexit was not specifically a Tory issue, indeed well over a third of Labour voters voted Leave but sovereignty is of course a vital Tory position and of course all EU citizens currently here can remain here.
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Indeed my wife and I were only saying today that no matter what we see in the high street we always check Amazon first and in most cases Amazon are much cheaper and deliver it to your door
They also have very good customer service.
The high street is heading for a very serious crisis in the coming years.
Also report today of big drop in beer sales. I do not drink much and never have drunk beer but is the loss of beer sales not offset with the rise of craft beers and cider. My family and friends nearly all drink craft beer, cider or wine
That doesn't mean they didn't just pay £15m in tax last year. On £7bn of sales.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/10/amazon-uk-halves-its-corporation-tax-to-74m-as-sales-soar-to-7bn
I fully accept that I'm a hypocrite for using them, for me it's a convenience rather than cost thing. But the fact is it's these egregious examples - 15m on 7bn FFS! - that are the problem. Not Lord Ashcroft and whether Her Majesty has a dodgy flat in Panama.
"we might have to spend a little more on books and electronics, but we wouldn't have to pay as much in tax"
So it makes no net difference to the average consumer. Either more tax or higher prices; either way we pay.
Yet.
The columnists/commentators know the rules.
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/pseph_logreg.html
I hope the party is lining up really good candidates for possible by elections, each one being female and one called Ruth would be fine
You couldn't make it up
Hope the MP for Sheffield Hallam keeps stum.
Hope your week away from your good lady goes quickly and you can be together again soon.
All the best
One other mitigating tactic for physical book purchases is to check out the second hand options it will prompt you with. These are very often from independent and/or charity booksellers using the Marketplace. Once you get past the books not being pristine you'll not notice the difference with new ones.
[1] viewcode: keeping it real, on the streets... :-)
They are laughing at the moment. They will not laugh forever, not when the tumbrils start rolling.
As far a charity donations are concerned we only support local charities apart from the RNLI which we support through our lifeboat station and their shop
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/arresteddevelopment/images/5/54/2x16_Meat_the_Veals_(40).png/revision/latest?cb=20130202002555
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41877924
50% of offshore wealth belongs to 0.01% of households?
Time for the 99.99% to default, methinks.
Bring back Len Goodman.
The eliminated couple improved massively over their first dance but it was still lacking.
Craig's face was in agony. Bruno looked like death warmed over
Like most, I shop on Amazon, but it doesn't mean that I like the way that they operate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOE7qTAK87o
Salah was my vice captain, ka-ching.
As for 'the tumbrils' since universal suffrage there is no longer any need for those.
The system is f*cked.
Loopholes are also available to everyone if they want to use them, even if obviously they are more beneficial the more assets you have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXW8OS0SSnc
Since that is a ludicrous comparison, it undermines legitimate concerns, and comparing to other historical revolutions only makes other resist reasonable moves, since people hoping for such comparison clearly want to do a lot more than merely fix specific problems with tax or whatever, they want to destroy our entire systems, which however flawed are not Russia in 1917 either.
I went to help clear a scout field today and ended up spending most of the morning picking up frogs and guiding them to safety. People couldn't even be bothered spending the time to be careful with their spades despite knowing that they were disturbing wildlife, and this is liberal Norwich.
What is it about human beings that we are such useless, nihilistic, degenerate fuckwits that don't really think through the consequences of our actions?
Having turned themselves in to the Belgian authorities in connection with Spain’s extradition request, the Catalan Five have insisted on a Flemish judge and for the court proceedings to be in Dutch, for which they need a translator. They could have chosen French, for which no translator would have been needed.
Once the discontent crystalises and enough of the middle class aligns with the dispossessed that upheaval occurs.
Historically the British elite were astute enough to reform just enough to prevent upheaval. That skill may not last forever. I speak of metaphorical tumbrils, rather than physical ones btw.
Around half of Brits still think Brexit is a good idea.
It's only when it is revealed that brexit doesn't mean what they were led to believe it would mean that the leave voter coalition will crumble. We're not there yet.
Plus of course we are now moving towards a FTA with the EU.
(Sorry. Big fan of libraries)
"Denmark’s minister for Immigration and Integration Inger Støjberg was hastily evacuated from the Sjælsmark deportation centre for rejected asylum seekers after tensions escalated during a tense visit to the facility."
https://www.thelocal.dk/20171103/danish-immigration-minister-escorted-from-deportation-centre-as-tensions-boil-over
The fact that you spend what limited time you have left on this planet researching and shifting monies between providers to make an extra buck is just a bit sad really. Unfortunately that is what many of our pensioners are reduced to...before the care home arrives, they spend their last years of useful life obsessively exploring low risk money making options/going on cruises/ or venturing out on weekend breaks at ludicrously expensive hotels.
I thought the Guardian was keen on the EU?
Maybe its time for you to hand over your rental properties to the tenants.
Not all of them. Just one.
I mean, you’ll never miss it. And you don’t need the extra bucks.
The economy is healthy when they do that. Wealth gets redistributed.
The problem comes when they don't spend, just accumulate and pass onto their own kids to further accumulate. They're taking advantage of the economic system to buy their own kids the future financial bondage of other peoples kids.
That ain't right.
The Bottom Line with Evan David was on Radio 4 last night and its topic was foreign direct investment in Britain: the factors influencing it and, inevitably, Brexit. 3 interviewees from BMW, Tata and a Chinese entrepreneur. Well worth half an hour of your time to listen to it on iPlayer.
Interesting analysis and the interviewees had a much more thoughtful and less hysterical analysis about Brexit than you might assume. Something to bear in mind when considering why businesses invest and how the outside world considers us.
Actually ensuring their children are provided for at least to a basic level ensures their children will not need welfare and social housing and be a burden on taxpayers.
Plus spending vast amounts is only really helpful to the British economy if it is spent on British goods or British services.
Liberal Conservatism doesn't have to be like this.
I remember how people thought that the view that we needed to face down Putin's regime with immense firmness was essentially provocative
Now they get it but only in the narrow confines of their own political bias because it suits.
Yes, have no doubts things to come will show how people within UKIP aligned camp (no names but Ive been on about it for months) have some kind of associations with Moscow but there is no evidence that the Russian shadow merchants shifted opinion or votes. Maybe more will emerge but there is no case on that account right now.
Trumpton
George Papadopoulos was in Greece at the same time as Putin and his coterie were there. Luck maybe. Maybe not.
Who did George meet in London by the way?
As a note downthread. Mike Flynn has been indicted for ages, the news is that charges may be about to be brought.
Conservatism has always been in favour of the family and tradition and inheritance.
You and your ideological group of zealots are creating such damage for this country through your bonkers crusade against the EU....well done.
They really are the mirror image of the Daily Mail.