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OldKingCole

First; is that a sign I ought to get out more?

Beverley_C

OldKingCole said:

First; is that a sign I ought to get out more?

Yes

foxinsoxuk

OldKingCole said:

First; is that a sign I ought to get out more?

Usually! either that or insomnia...

MarkHopkins

Everything’s going to be alright

Everything’s going to be alright

Everything’s going to be alright

OldKingCole

foxinsoxuk said:

OldKingCole said:

First; is that a sign I ought to get out more?

Usually! either that or insomnia...

Must cut the lawn before it rains.

Pong

fpt;

Mortimer said:

Pong said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

The wealthy are using equity release to try and avoid IHT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/rising-house-prices-inheritance-tax-fuelling-middle-class-equity/

A loophole that Hammond will take a look at?

No, as much of that equity release goes to fund deposits for their children to get on the housing ladder.

And price the kids without significant inheritances out of the housing market altogether.

F*ck the poor, vote Conservative

Outside of the South, housing is largely still affordable.

It's not as clear cut as you are astroturfing

I feel a little sorry for the tories who fooled themselves into believing their party cared about meritocracy. Y'know, getting on in life through your own efforts.

The client vote have the party - and the country - by the balls.

RobD

Pong said:

fpt;

Mortimer said:

Pong said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

The wealthy are using equity release to try and avoid IHT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/rising-house-prices-inheritance-tax-fuelling-middle-class-equity/

A loophole that Hammond will take a look at?

No, as much of that equity release goes to fund deposits for their children to get on the housing ladder.

And price the kids without significant inheritances out of the housing market altogether.

F*ck the poor, vote Conservative

Outside of the South, housing is largely still affordable.

It's not as clear cut as you are astroturfing

I feel a little sorry for the tories who fooled themselves into believing their party cared about meritocracy. Y'know, getting on in life through your own efforts.

The client vote have the party - and the country - by the balls.

If I had a penny for every time you uttered the words “client vote”....

MarkHopkins

Pong said:

fpt;

Mortimer said:

Pong said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

The wealthy are using equity release to try and avoid IHT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/rising-house-prices-inheritance-tax-fuelling-middle-class-equity/

A loophole that Hammond will take a look at?

No, as much of that equity release goes to fund deposits for their children to get on the housing ladder.

And price the kids without significant inheritances out of the housing market altogether.

F*ck the poor, vote Conservative

Outside of the South, housing is largely still affordable.

It's not as clear cut as you are astroturfing

I feel a little sorry for the tories who fooled themselves into believing their party cared about meritocracy. Y'know, getting on in life through your own efforts.

The client vote have the party - and the country - by the balls.

It was Labour who presided above the massive house-price boom. And didn't care about it. Other than whacking up Moving Tax on anyone trying to buy a home.

Pong

RobD said:

Pong said:

fpt;

Mortimer said:

Pong said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

The wealthy are using equity release to try and avoid IHT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/rising-house-prices-inheritance-tax-fuelling-middle-class-equity/

A loophole that Hammond will take a look at?

No, as much of that equity release goes to fund deposits for their children to get on the housing ladder.

And price the kids without significant inheritances out of the housing market altogether.

F*ck the poor, vote Conservative

Outside of the South, housing is largely still affordable.

It's not as clear cut as you are astroturfing

I feel a little sorry for the tories who fooled themselves into believing their party cared about meritocracy. Y'know, getting on in life through your own efforts.

The client vote have the party - and the country - by the balls.

If I had a penny for every time you uttered the words “client vote”....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clientelism

RobD

Pong said:

RobD said:

Pong said:

fpt;

Mortimer said:

Pong said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

The wealthy are using equity release to try and avoid IHT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/rising-house-prices-inheritance-tax-fuelling-middle-class-equity/

A loophole that Hammond will take a look at?

No, as much of that equity release goes to fund deposits for their children to get on the housing ladder.

And price the kids without significant inheritances out of the housing market altogether.

F*ck the poor, vote Conservative

Outside of the South, housing is largely still affordable.

It's not as clear cut as you are astroturfing

I feel a little sorry for the tories who fooled themselves into believing their party cared about meritocracy. Y'know, getting on in life through your own efforts.

The client vote have the party - and the country - by the balls.

If I had a penny for every time you uttered the words “client vote”....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clientelism

Yeah, it’s just ridiculous given that Labour were promising to do more to protect the supposed client vote than the Tories (triple lock, social care, WFA for millionaires).

nielh

Pong said:

fpt;

Mortimer said:

Pong said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

The wealthy are using equity release to try and avoid IHT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/rising-house-prices-inheritance-tax-fuelling-middle-class-equity/

A loophole that Hammond will take a look at?

No, as much of that equity release goes to fund deposits for their children to get on the housing ladder.

And price the kids without significant inheritances out of the housing market altogether.

F*ck the poor, vote Conservative

Outside of the South, housing is largely still affordable.

It's not as clear cut as you are astroturfing

I feel a little sorry for the tories who fooled themselves into believing their party cared about meritocracy. Y'know, getting on in life through your own efforts.

The client vote have the party - and the country - by the balls.

All these propositions are true:

1. large parts of the UK have affordable housing.
2. In large parts of the country people have no hope of ever owning housing.
3. Substandard private rented sector housing is widespread and increasing.
4. Homelessness is widespread.

GIN1138

MarkHopkins said:

Everything’s going to be alright

Everything’s going to be alright

Everything’s going to be alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqhdRs4jyA

Stark_Dawning

Is Gove proving to be more trouble than he's worth? Not only would we now have PM Boris were it not for him, but he's now matched Jared O'Mara and the crass-remarks stakes. And this just as the Tories were claiming the moral high ground over Labour. Poor politics.

GIN1138

Stark_Dawning said:

Is Gove proving to be more trouble than he's worth? Not only would we now have PM Boris were it not for him, but he's now matched Jared O'Mara and the crass-remarks stakes. And this just as the Tories were claiming the moral high ground over Labour. Poor politics.

I have a feeling Gove's comments are just the "warm up" to the main event which will be the revelations in the Sunday papers, Re. sleazy MP's.

Beers and popcorn on stand-bye as we wait to see who is exposed?

RobD

Stark_Dawning said:

Is Gove proving to be more trouble than he's worth? Not only would we now have PM Boris were it not for him, but he's now matched Jared O'Mara and the crass-remarks stakes. And this just as the Tories were claiming the moral high ground over Labour. Poor politics.

I think that might be a bit of wishful thinking on your part. He’s been getting some good press recently for the work he’s doing at Defra.

Morris_Dancer

Good afternoon, everyone.

Mr. Dawning, Gove's comment was daft but that's over-egging the cake.

On-topic: if nothing else works, a pigheaded unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.

DavidL

Surely every little thing is gonna be alright?

Unless you are a Spurs fan of course.

DavidL

What has Gove done btw?

Richard_Tyndall

DavidL said:

What has Gove done btw?

Nothing at all except provide an excuse for the feckwits to moan again.

Morris_Dancer

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

RobD

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Not the audience, apparently.

DavidL

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Stark_Dawning

GIN1138 said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Is Gove proving to be more trouble than he's worth? Not only would we now have PM Boris were it not for him, but he's now matched Jared O'Mara and the crass-remarks stakes. And this just as the Tories were claiming the moral high ground over Labour. Poor politics.

I have a feeling Gove's comments are just the "warm up" to the main event which will be the revelations in the Sunday papers, Re. sleazy MP's.

Beers and popcorn on stand-bye as we wait to see who is exposed?

Gove should have the party whip removed. Otherwise Labour can claim that Jezza acted decisively over Jared O'Mara while Theresa dithered over Gove. What a frightful mess!

Morris_Dancer

Mr. D, that does sound akin the professor hounded out of his job situation, although I do think politicians should be more careful than the average man when it comes to their words.

YellowSubmarine

" And all shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well. '"

Lady Julian of Norwich obviously never had a showing of Social Media but I cling to her eschatology never the less.

MarkHopkins

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvjQDNKT-E4

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Dawning, that's a gross over-reaction. Give is not O'Mara.

Mr. L, I think he said that appearing on the Today programme was akin to an actress meeting Weinstein (one hoped to emerge with their dignity intact). Whether that's funny or not is subjective. I do think it was an unwise jest to make.

Morris_Dancer

Gove* isn't O'Mara either. Can we no longer edit posts?

DavidL

MarkHopkins said:

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvjQDNKT-E4

Yeah, not smart. Hey ho.

YellowSubmarine

Next week Sadiq Khan will go on Today and compare being interviewed by John Humphreys to a WWC girl getting in a Rotherham Taxi. PB Tories will then flood the following thread saying it was a harmless joke and the ensuing firestorm is political correctness gone mad.

DavidL

YellowSubmarine said:

Next week Sadiq Khan will go on Today and compare being interviewed by John Humphreys to a WWC girl getting in a Rotherham Taxi. PB Tories will then flood the ensuring thread saying it was a harmless joke and the ensuing firestorm is political correctness gone mad.

Want to put money on that?

MarqueeMark

DavidL said:

Surely every little thing is gonna be alright?

Unless you are a Spurs fan of course.

Martial lore?

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Submarine, ... does this mean I've been thrown out of PB Tory Club?

Yorkcity

DavidL said:

Surely every little thing is gonna be alright?

Unless you are a Spurs fan of course.

True can not see Spurs winning anything , especially after the last two results against Man u and West Ham.

Stark_Dawning

Gove's blunder is damaging. The Weinstein saga has started a national debate about sexual harassment in the workplace, yet Gove seems to think it's all just a jolly jape. This confirms the notion of the Tories as arrogant and tin eared - a notion that did so much damage to them in the 1990s and which Dave worked hard to dispel. The government is starting to have the look of Gentleman's John's circa 1996: both hapless and aloof.

Recidivist

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

No. The audience are laughing because he can’t get in self out of the hole he is talking himself into.

AndyJS

O/T

Interesting article by Jonathan Maitland:

"The idiot box: how the allure of working in TV ruined Britain
How a generation of our brightest minds were lured into the vacuous world of television
Jonathan Maitland"

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/10/the-idiot-box-how-the-allure-of-working-in-tv-ruined-britain/

Yorkcity

Stark_Dawning said:

Gove's blunder is damaging. The Weinstein saga has started a national debate about sexual harassment in the workplace, yet Gove seems to think it's all just a jolly jape. This confirms the notion of the Tories as arrogant and tin eared - a notion that did so much damage to them in the 1990s and which Dave worked hard to dispel. The government is starting to have the look of Gentleman's John's circa 1996: both hapless and aloof.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sexual-harassment-all-women-lying-says-white-house-sarah-huckabee-sanders-a8024136.html Surely not in same league as Trump

foxinsoxuk

DavidL said:

Surely every little thing is gonna be alright?

Unless you are a Spurs fan of course.

Bingo!

I have been lucky in the FIFA draw and have SF tickets for me and Fox jr.

Fingers crossed for the final draw!

No way am I supporting the Germans in Russia, if England not in the SF will favour an EU team.

Yorkcity

Morris_Dancer said:

Gove* isn't O'Mara either. Can we no longer edit posts?

How do you know , we would need to see 15 years of Gove's internet jokes.

Morris_Dancer

Mr. City, show me the comments Gove made that compare to O'Mara's and I'll agree. Otherwise, there's no evidence.

TheScreamingEagles

Gove's joke is the sort of joke I would tell.

It's also one of the reasons I wouldn't go into politics.

Yorkcity

True an unknown unknowns on anyone really .If they trawled through everyone's internet usage then published it.

rottenborough

RobD said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Is Gove proving to be more trouble than he's worth? Not only would we now have PM Boris were it not for him, but he's now matched Jared O'Mara and the crass-remarks stakes. And this just as the Tories were claiming the moral high ground over Labour. Poor politics.

I think that might be a bit of wishful thinking on your part. He’s been getting some good press recently for the work he’s doing at Defra.

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/924243852793401346

Big_G_NorthWales

Stark_Dawning said:

Gove's blunder is damaging. The Weinstein saga has started a national debate about sexual harassment in the workplace, yet Gove seems to think it's all just a jolly jape. This confirms the notion of the Tories as arrogant and tin eared - a notion that did so much damage to them in the 1990s and which Dave worked hard to dispel. The government is starting to have the look of Gentleman's John's circa 1996: both hapless and aloof.

Need some perspective here. If you listen to the tape it is was well received by the audience with applause and laughter. Too many snowflakes around at present

Sandpit

MarkHopkins said:

Pong said:

fpt;

Mortimer said:

Pong said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

The wealthy are using equity release to try and avoid IHT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/rising-house-prices-inheritance-tax-fuelling-middle-class-equity/

A loophole that Hammond will take a look at?

No, as much of that equity release goes to fund deposits for their children to get on the housing ladder.

And price the kids without significant inheritances out of the housing market altogether.

F*ck the poor, vote Conservative

Outside of the South, housing is largely still affordable.

It's not as clear cut as you are astroturfing

I feel a little sorry for the tories who fooled themselves into believing their party cared about meritocracy. Y'know, getting on in life through your own efforts.

The client vote have the party - and the country - by the balls.

It was Labour who presided above the massive house-price boom. And didn't care about it. Other than whacking up Moving Tax on anyone trying to buy a home.

And oversaw record immigration, “to rub the right’s noses in diversity”.

williamglenn

Yorkcity said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Gove* isn't O'Mara either. Can we no longer edit posts?

How do you know , we would need to see 15 years of Gove's internet jokes.

https://twitter.com/drrichcollins/status/773613219575390208

rottenborough

https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/924211205052489728

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Glenn, what's the SLS?

On the face of it, that joke looks rather good. I recall Black Lives Matter blaming racism when a black guy was killed by a black police officer.

Mortimer

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Witty, for sure. And the audience found it funny.

It's just the season ticket holders of the outrage bus who are kicking up a fuss.

Pulpstar

I thought Gove's joke was amusing.*

*Is that an allowed opinion these days ?

rottenborough

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Witty, for sure. And the audience found it funny.

It's just the season ticket holders of the outrage bus who are kicking up a fuss.

https://twitter.com/ShellyAsquith/status/924194879848308736

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Pulpstar, yes. And it's permitted to think it went too far too.

I agree with the underlying sentiment of your question, though. People seem happy to throw away nuance and there's an increasing insistence things must be either forbidden or mandatory.

It's not a healthy state of affairs.

At the moment, I've been thrown out of PB Tory Club and onto the outrage bus

rottenborough

Jess Philips has probably come up with the best response so far. Not too over the top, but gently made the point:

https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/924188335056343040

Peter_the_Punter

Pulpstar said:

I thought Gove's joke was amusing.*

*Is that an allowed opinion these days ?

Me too, and I'm not exactly a Gove fan.

Mortimer

rottenborough said:

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Witty, for sure. And the audience found it funny.

It's just the season ticket holders of the outrage bus who are kicking up a fuss.

https://twitter.com/ShellyAsquith/status/924194879848308736

Mr Meeks on the previous thread was bang on about this. People won't care; in fact, I suspect many will think more of him for displaying a human, non politically correct side.

Barnesian

Peter_the_Punter said:

Pulpstar said:

I thought Gove's joke was amusing.*

*Is that an allowed opinion these days ?

Me too, and I'm not exactly a Gove fan.

Ditto

OldKingCole

rottenborough said:

Jess Philips has probably come up with the best response so far. Not too over the top, but gently made the point:

https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/924188335056343040

Yes; Jess Phillips is, generally, an asset to our public life

Morris_Dancer

King Cole, hmm. Scoffing at the prospect of discussing why so many men kill themselves was not an edifying spectacle, though.

rottenborough

Peter_the_Punter said:

Pulpstar said:

I thought Gove's joke was amusing.*

*Is that an allowed opinion these days ?

Me too, and I'm not exactly a Gove fan.

Just because it is actually amusing, doesn't also mean it was crass and awful at the same time. He's a front rank pol, not a poundshop Russell Brand.

OldKingCole

England 0 Spain 1 in the under 17’s. So far.

Don’t know the Catalonian score!

tlg86

rottenborough said:

Jess Philips has probably come up with the best response so far. Not too over the top, but gently made the point:

https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/924188335056343040

And what about the many people in the audience who laughed?

OldKingCole

Morris_Dancer said:

King Cole, hmm. Scoffing at the prospect of discussing why so many men kill themselves was not an edifying spectacle, though.

I wrote ‘generally', Mr D. Not invariably.

calum

Interesting graph

https://twitter.com/rosscolquhoun/status/924033164049297408

Morris_Dancer

King Cole, I know, but perhaps not everyone reading your comment would be aware that the MP in question, who is displeased with the Weinstein joke was content herself to make light of men killing themselves.

She might care to look in the mirror.

calum

https://twitter.com/catalannews/status/924287657148125186

rottenborough

OMG. Trump has just sent a sensible, normal tweet about opiates.

There's been a coup d'etat at the White House this morning.

HYUFD

Pong said:

fpt;

Mortimer said:

Pong said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

The wealthy are using equity release to try and avoid IHT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/rising-house-prices-inheritance-tax-fuelling-middle-class-equity/

A loophole that Hammond will take a look at?

No, as much of that equity release goes to fund deposits for their children to get on the housing ladder.

And price the kids without significant inheritances out of the housing market altogether.

F*ck the poor, vote Conservative

Outside of the South, housing is largely still affordable.

It's not as clear cut as you are astroturfing

I feel a little sorry for the tories who fooled themselves into believing their party cared about meritocracy. Y'know, getting on in life through your own efforts.

The client vote have the party - and the country - by the balls.

The Tories have always been the party of family, tradition and meritocracy, they are conservatives after all.

It is classical laissez-faire liberals who are focused on supposed 'meritocracy' alone. Conservatives are not socialists but they are not liberals either.

Morris_Dancer

F1: third practice about to begin. At the moment, it looks tight between the top six.

HYUFD

RobD said:

Pong said:

RobD said:

Pong said:

fpt;

Mortimer said:

Pong said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

The wealthy are using equity release to try and avoid IHT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/rising-house-prices-inheritance-tax-fuelling-middle-class-equity/

A loophole that Hammond will take a look at?

No, as much of that equity release goes to fund deposits for their children to get on the housing ladder.

And price the kids without significant inheritances out of the housing market altogether.

F*ck the poor, vote Conservative

Outside of the South, housing is largely still affordable.

It's not as clear cut as you are astroturfing

I feel a little sorry for the tories who fooled themselves into believing their party cared about meritocracy. Y'know, getting on in life through your own efforts.

The client vote have the party - and the country - by the balls.

If I had a penny for every time you uttered the words “client vote”....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clientelism

Yeah, it’s just ridiculous given that Labour were promising to do more to protect the supposed client vote than the Tories (triple lock, social care, WFA for millionaires).

May and Hammond's biggest mistake was not doing enough to look after the 'client vote.' That was one thing Cameron and Osborne got right in 2015.

Beverley_C

Morris_Dancer said:

People seem happy to throw away nuance and there's an increasing insistence things must be either forbidden or mandatory.

But, Mr D, PB has been that way for years

Morris_Dancer said:

It's not a healthy state of affairs.

That has never bothered anyone around here before

Morris_Dancer said:

At the moment, I've been thrown out of PB Tory Club and onto the outrage bus

You have club? Is there a password and a secret handshake?

Richard_Tyndall

Mortimer said:

rottenborough said:

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Witty, for sure. And the audience found it funny.

It's just the season ticket holders of the outrage bus who are kicking up a fuss.

https://twitter.com/ShellyAsquith/status/924194879848308736

Mr Meeks on the previous thread was bang on about this. People won't care; in fact, I suspect many will think more of him for displaying a human, non politically correct side.

Yep. The ones without dignity are the ones banging on about it because it serves their political viewpoint.

Beverley_C

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Gove's blunder is damaging. The Weinstein saga has started a national debate about sexual harassment in the workplace, yet Gove seems to think it's all just a jolly jape. This confirms the notion of the Tories as arrogant and tin eared - a notion that did so much damage to them in the 1990s and which Dave worked hard to dispel. The government is starting to have the look of Gentleman's John's circa 1996: both hapless and aloof.

Need some perspective here. If you listen to the tape it is was well received by the audience with applause and laughter. Too many snowflakes around at present

Winter is coming ....

Bit of a Stark message, I know...

OldKingCole

Beverley_C said:

Morris_Dancer said:

People seem happy to throw away nuance and there's an increasing insistence things must be either forbidden or mandatory.

But, Mr D, PB has been that way for years

Morris_Dancer said:

It's not a healthy state of affairs.

That has never bothered anyone around here before

Morris_Dancer said:

At the moment, I've been thrown out of PB Tory Club and onto the outrage bus

You have club? Is there a password and a secret handshake?

I think it’s borrowed from one of his minor warrior characters!

OldKingCole

Oh dear. Spain 2-0 up.

Sandpit

F1: another Renault engine goes bang. Pierre Gasly the unfortunate man this time. 3 hours to change it before qualifying.

Morris_Dancer

Mrs C, we don't shake hands. We devour children. And enjoy Powerpoint presentations about tax cuts.

Mwahahaha!

Mr. Sandpit, Gasly was already looking at a penalty for control electronics.

Stark_Dawning

Gove has issued a grovelling apology for his 'clumsy attempt at humour'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41787710

Quite right. His utterance was lacking in humanity and utterly crass. His defenders on here should have the good grace to admit they called it wrong.

Nigelb

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Witty, for sure. And the audience found it funny.

It's just the season ticket holders of the outrage bus who are kicking up a fuss.

I'm missing the wit - perhaps you could explain it ?
And FWIW, there seems to be an equal amount of snowflakery fuss kicking up from those who can't accept critiques of crap jokes...

Big_G_NorthWales

Stark_Dawning said:

Gove has issued a grovelling apology for his 'clumsy attempt at humour'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41787710

Quite right. His utterance was lacking in humanity and utterly crass. His defenders on here should have the good grace to admit they called it wrong.

Nonsense

Big_G_NorthWales

Nigelb said:

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Witty, for sure. And the audience found it funny.

It's just the season ticket holders of the outrage bus who are kicking up a fuss.

I'm missing the wit - perhaps you could explain it ?
And FWIW, there seems to be an equal amount of snowflakery fuss kicking up from those who can't accept critiques of crap jokes...

Did you listen to the tape and Kinnock's comment and the audience applause and laughter.

Mortimer

Nigelb said:

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Witty, for sure. And the audience found it funny.

It's just the season ticket holders of the outrage bus who are kicking up a fuss.

I'm missing the wit - perhaps you could explain it ?
And FWIW, there seems to be an equal amount of snowflakery fuss kicking up from those who can't accept critiques of crap jokes...

I've found that people on high horses struggle to hear explanations.

I've no problem with people finding something unfunny; I have huge problems with people suggesting making bad jokes is morally wrong.

Morris_Dancer

More explosions in Somalia:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-41790476

Pulpstar

Was round a friends last night, a friend of hers has just started working for the NHS; and she's noticed a huge amount of wasteful practice there (Disposal of unopened kit !).
She voted Corbyn last time before anyone wonders if it was the local Tory association.

MarqueeMark

Beverley_C said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Gove's blunder is damaging. The Weinstein saga has started a national debate about sexual harassment in the workplace, yet Gove seems to think it's all just a jolly jape. This confirms the notion of the Tories as arrogant and tin eared - a notion that did so much damage to them in the 1990s and which Dave worked hard to dispel. The government is starting to have the look of Gentleman's John's circa 1996: both hapless and aloof.

Need some perspective here. If you listen to the tape it is was well received by the audience with applause and laughter. Too many snowflakes around at present

Winter is coming ....

Bit of a Stark message, I know...

More like House Bolton - Gove as the Flayed Man....?

David_Evershed

Pulpstar said:

Was round a friends last night, a friend of hers has just started working for the NHS; and she's noticed a huge amount of wasteful practice there (Disposal of unopened kit !).
She voted Corbyn last time before anyone wonders if it was the local Tory association.

The biggest waste in the NHS is people not taking care of themselves. It is our NHS and it is our responsibility to look after our own health.

Start with diet, exercise and smoking. Lots of savings for the NHS there.

Scott_P

Beverley_C said:

Winter is coming ....

Bit of a Stark message, I know...

You'll be needing your coat then...

Are you a strictly fan?

https://twitter.com/susancalman/status/924165852487876609

MarqueeMark

rottenborough said:

OMG. Trump has just sent a sensible, normal tweet about opiates.

There's been a coup d'etat at the White House this morning.

Nah - it's Trump: Phase Two. Just when his critics thought they had the measure of the man....

Scott_P

MarqueeMark said:

Nah - it's Trump: Phase Two. Just when his critics thought they had the measure of the man....

https://twitter.com/aguirreryan/status/923993670159699968

David_Evershed

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Nigelb said:

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Witty, for sure. And the audience found it funny.

It's just the season ticket holders of the outrage bus who are kicking up a fuss.

I'm missing the wit - perhaps you could explain it ?
And FWIW, there seems to be an equal amount of snowflakery fuss kicking up from those who can't accept critiques of crap jokes...

Did you listen to the tape and Kinnock's comment and the audience applause and laughter.

We seem to be stuck in a time warp with things being repe........

We seem to be stuck in a time warp with things being repe........

We seem to be stuck in a time warp with things being repe........

We seem to be stuck in a time warp with things being repe........

David_Evershed

OldKingCole said:

Oh dear. Spain 2-0 up.

If there are any Catalans playing for Spain we could claim they should be disqualified.

Nigelb

Mortimer said:

Nigelb said:

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. L, made a Weinstein joke many think ill-advised.

Was it funny?

Witty, for sure. And the audience found it funny.

It's just the season ticket holders of the outrage bus who are kicking up a fuss.

I'm missing the wit - perhaps you could explain it ?
And FWIW, there seems to be an equal amount of snowflakery fuss kicking up from those who can't accept critiques of crap jokes...

I've found that people on high horses struggle to hear explanations.

I've no problem with people finding something unfunny; I have huge problems with people suggesting making bad jokes is morally wrong.

So get down off your high horse and explain.
I set out quite clearly on the previous thread why, in my opinion, it was simply a crap attempt at humour, and utterly lacking in the wit one might expect from a man of Gove's intellect.

I've heard a lot of guys explain they found it funny - and none why.

Scott_P

David_Evershed said:

We seem to be stuck in a time warp with things being repe........

We seem to be stuck in a time warp with things being repe........

We seem to be stuck in a time warp with things being repe........

We seem to be stuck in a time warp with things being repe........

https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/923242548646293504

Morris_Dancer

Hmm. Current thoughts are that my F1 assumptions are going to be entirely wrong

surbiton

Stark_Dawning said:

Gove has issued a grovelling apology for his 'clumsy attempt at humour'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41787710

Quite right. His utterance was lacking in humanity and utterly crass. His defenders on here should have the good grace to admit they called it wrong.

The Minister of Silly Walks has always had a sense of humour deficit. I am not sure why he even tries.

He lacks the human touch. That's why his crude attempt in fellating Boris in the leadership elections thinking his own chances would actually improve. What a pillock!

Beverley_C

Scott_P said:

Beverley_C said:

Winter is coming ....

Bit of a Stark message, I know...

You'll be needing your coat then...

Are you a strictly fan?

twitter.com/susancalman/status/924165852487876609

With two left feet, I do not really dance, I just spasm noisely in the middle of the dance floor

Nigelb

Morris_Dancer said:

Hmm. Current thoughts are that my F1 assumptions are going to be entirely wrong

Just possible that Hamilton has engine problems... "power issues".
I guess an enforced engine change before qualifying wouldn't be the worst thing for him.

Sandpit

rottenborough said:

OMG. Trump has just sent a sensible, normal tweet about opiates.

There's been a coup d'etat at the White House this morning.

This seems to be something that Trump really cares about, and it’s affecting millions of people in his suporters’ heartlands.

He’s also a teetotaller who’s seen plenty of people he knows screwed up by drugs legal and illegal.

Good luck to him in sorting out the problem though, it’s not going to be an easy one.

Sandpit

Morris_Dancer said:

Hmm. Current thoughts are that my F1 assumptions are going to be entirely wrong

Top six on the grid might as well be decided by drawing lots, it’s that close between them.

rottenborough

In case you missed it, Charles Powell lecture, live tweeted by Adonis, on Mrs T and EU:

https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/924170360219676672