I don't know any more than anyone else, but announcing that a stack of Tory MPs are facing election charges, and that she has demanded that they all resign for bye-elections would be less crazy than some of the speculation here.
TMay an avid PB reader has decided to listen to the wise words of Alistar Meeks and various Remoaners and has unrevoked article 50. And instead will seek to become a region of Germany. May claims this is best as we will easily out vot any other region and will therefore have immense power in Europe. It is the best way to influence things.
There are elections in 2 weeks, and General Election announcement would await the outcomes of those, surely. I do not think it involves anything electorally. It is either to do with foreign affairs or unfortunatley she is unwell and is resigning.
Even if she could, how woud we, the voting public, take to be called to the polls two or three weeks after the locals/mayorals and what not, and less that a year after the referendum.
Low turnout because of election fatigue would likely help the tories even further, so that could actually be a reason to call a vote...
Is TSE already typing out 4 different articles to try and cover all the possible announcements that might be made?
Yup.
I've got the following plans covered
1) Early election
2) Election expenses charges
3) She's resigning
4) NI stuff
5) Something Brexit related. 4 year transitional deal etc then formal exit.
6) Something Royal related.
2 seems most likely. 4 would have been briefed?
2) would be announced by the CPS at a press conference surely, in the tradition of self-important justice-endangering twattery introduced by that idiot Starmer?
How can she go for a GE, after saying repeatedly she won't? It is just not her style surely?
Had second thoughts, need to seek a mandate from public before Brexit negotiations begin, she doesn't really want an election personally but democracy has to come first, etc...
When the polls change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?
Earliest possible election date would be June 1st I think.
Depends on how quickly they wrap things up. 1. "There shall be an early GE" motion introduced this afternoon with a 10pm guillotine. 2. Wrap up bills this week 3. Parliament prorogued Monday 24th April 4. FTPA dictates election is 17 working days later, which is Thursday 18th May
Wrong I am afraid. The FTA - as eventually ammended - requires 25 working days between Dissolution and Polling Day. Parliament does not reassemble until 24th April - so earliest Thursday would be 1st June. If Labour refuse to play ball the earliest Polling Day would effectively be 15th or 22nd June.
TMay an avid PB reader has decided to listen to the wise words of Alistar Meeks and various Remoaners and has unrevoked article 50. And instead will seek to become a region of Germany. May claims this is best as we will easily out vot any other region and will therefore have immense power in Europe. It is the best way to influence things.
How can she go for a GE, after saying repeatedly she won't? It is just not her style surely?
Had second thoughts, need to seek a mandate from public before Brexit negotiations begin, she doesn't really want an election personally but democracy has to come first, etc...
The Tories already have a majority and the HOC voted overwhelming to trigger article 50, it'd be a tough sell..
I'm not sure how people would register their disapproval though. I doubt it'd be in voting Labour.
How can she go for a GE, after saying repeatedly she won't? It is just not her style surely?
Had second thoughts, need to seek a mandate from public before Brexit negotiations begin, she doesn't really want an election personally but democracy has to come first, etc...
Thatcher (who first hand accounts suggest was more of a ditherer than her image suggests) in the 80s waited to see how the locals went before calling a GE. Then ran the GE campaign almost back to back with the locals, June 1983, June 1987. It is too late for a concurrent election and having overlapping campaigns with the locals would be a very strange decision, indeed. Unless, I suppose, repealing the fixed term act gives the game away but takes a few more weeks at least, hence a June election requires an announcement now?
Earliest possible election date would be June 1st I think.
Depends on how quickly they wrap things up. 1. "There shall be an early GE" motion introduced this afternoon with a 10pm guillotine. 2. Wrap up bills this week 3. Parliament prorogued Monday 24th April 4. FTPA dictates election is 17 working days later, which is Thursday 18th May
Wrong I am afraid. The FTA - as eventually ammended - requires 25 working days between Dissolution and Polling Day. Parliament does not reassemble until 24th April - so earliest Thursday would be 1st June. If Labour refuse to play ball the earliest Polling Day would effectively be 15th or 22nd June.
Parliament resumes today - with Oral questions to the Chancellor at 2:30
Maybe announcement of prosecutions due to the electoral fraud allegations? Perhaps she would like to announce it and put her spin on it rather than waiting for an announcement from the CPS?
Of course, if plotters were planning to ditch Corbyn as labour leader after May local elctions they now can't do that, this could be the last chance to have corbyn as leader for the GE.
So does the Gorton election go ahead if it's June 8? I have a tasty position...
Probably. I don't know the exact legal provision but the by-election will certainly go ahead if parliamentary hoops are still being jumped through. I'd be very surprised if a GE campaign kicked off during the local elections, which'd imply that Gorton would be contested before a GE campaign as well.
If so, quick word of advice for Remainers: if you want to influence the outcome by persuading the electorate how to vote, and you have the choice of trying to do so a) between now and 8th June, or b) from 9 June unto the last syllable of recorded time, the clever money is definitely on a), lads.
So does the Gorton election go ahead if it's June 8? I have a tasty position...
Probably. I don't know the exact legal provision but the by-election will certainly go ahead if parliamentary hoops are still being jumped through. I'd be very surprised if a GE campaign kicked off during the local elections, which'd imply that Gorton would be contested before a GE campaign as well.
Guardian says that Buckingham Palace has confirmed that the Queen is currently resident at Windsor Castle, Which suggests that unless there’s been unusual activity there it’s not RF-related. And if it was the DoE there would be an announcement from there, sureklt.
If she's at windsor then probably not a GE as she would need to be at buck house?
Although the same for a resignation would apply as well.
In al seriousness I agree with SO an early GE would be good for the country. We decide if may gets a mandidate and jezza gets removed / we hopefully get an opposition that isnt a load of mad terrorist sympathizers.
so since 2010 we've had Gordon Brown kicked out, the Yellow Peril destroyed, SNP lost Indi Ref, Ed Miliband crushed and Scotland lost for Labour, We are leaving the EU and Trump elected, now we will witness the British Labour Party being annihilated. Who said politics is boring?
Wow wasn't expecting that. Despite all her previous announcements to the contrary this is definitely the smart move for her to make.
This also indicates she will stand on a manifesto that displeases ultra-leavers. She can get endorsement via electorate for a form of transition deal, because she has no chance of losing to Corbyn. She wants to get her insurance policy in against inevitable cries of betrayal.
Wow wasn't expecting that. Despite all her previous announcements to the contrary this is definitely the smart move for her to make.
This also indicates she will stand on a manifesto that displeases ultra-leavers. She can get endorsement via electorate for a form of transition deal, because she has no chance of losing to Corbyn. She wants to get her insurance policy in against inevitable cries of betrayal.
Yes, the campaign will force the Tories to aim for a softer Brexit. But UKIP being flat on its back probably makes this safer than it seemed a few months back.
Apparently now is the time, all our energies don't need to be focused on our negotiations with the European Union about our future relationship, and people will have the necessary information to make such a crucial decision.
Apparently now is the time, all our energies don't need to be focused on our negotiations with the European Union about our future relationship, and people will have the necessary information to make such a crucial decision.
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If she's resigning... And new Tory leader wants a general election.... Can that be done in time for 2017? GE + leadership all doable in 2017?
Surely that would be "an announcement"?
Fiona Hill texts @adamboultonSKY to say she will be making a formal complaint to Sky News over speculation about PM's health
So not health related?
At some point someone must know something...
Surely if war would lose element of surprise?
I'm not sure how people would register their disapproval though. I doubt it'd be in voting Labour.
If it's an election May is shown to be a brilliant general.
Clausewitz's Principles of War
•Surprise
◦Attack when the enemy least suspects it
•Mass
◦Get there first with the most
•Objective
◦Choose an objective and stick with it
•Offensive
◦Seize the Initiative
•Manoeuver
◦Move to more advantageous positions
•Unity of Command
◦Place your entire force under the command of a single entity
•Security
◦Don't let the enemy rob you of your advantages
•Simplicity
◦Keep your plans clear and simple
•Economy of Force
◦Allocate your limited forces wisely
Aaaaaaaaaaaargh!
Edit: ok GE for me.
May might be very very smart.
Edit: sorry getting over excited.
come in Mr Corbyn, your time is up....
Another election on Labour friendly gerrymandered boundaries.
Norn Iron direct rule would be more likely for a political matter. Personal health and other matters are unpredictable
Big random one - Brexit is cancelled
The Beeb says it is an election. So much for the FTPA
Labour out of power until 2027 now.
This also indicates she will stand on a manifesto that displeases ultra-leavers. She can get endorsement via electorate for a form of transition deal, because she has no chance of losing to Corbyn. She wants to get her insurance policy in against inevitable cries of betrayal.
"All about leadership."!!!
Now we get to show the left wing what happens when they take over the party
Good News - DIE CORBYN DIE
NEW THREAD
Funny that ...
Will they?