It conjures the delicious vision of the EU defending the interests of Scotland, NI & Gib in negotiations, while Tessy's precious union sockpuppets angrily demand that aforementioned interests should be of no account.
Scotland/SNP has tremendous goodwill with the EU at the moment, I feel alot of others underestimate the value of this.
Goodwill doesn't butter any parsnips to butcher a phrase, but a drastic toning down (if not absence) of the Barroso/Spain line from last time is a big bonus.
How can Scotland be independent if she continues to be run from Brussels?
She can't. It is the one great failing of the Scottish Independence Movement - that they apparently don't really want to be independent.
Does Scotland currently have more or less sovereignty than Ireland, Denmark or Belgium?
Less.
But then Scotland is in a single market with a common currency and fiscal transfers - how do you think these things work?
Now will you answer a question.
What's the SNP's policy on EU membership?
Answers a question not asked of her then stamps her foot for a reply to her own question.
Jog on and find someone who cares what you think.
"Less".
Are you stupid? Wait, no need to ask.
And another wee armchair Yoon lobs in..
Lol, I supported and still do support Scottish independence. I just don't think it will be delivered. You bottled it in 2014 and not enough people give a fuck about the EU, worse still those that do are Yes/Leavers who are now looking to stay home or switch to No. Get back in your corner with the dunce hat.
The sun is over the yardarm where you are I'm guessing, when wee dweebs gets macho on the internet.
Cat got your tongue? No answer to Carlotta's response, no answer to me. Just a snide remark. No wonder why your country is doomed to an existence of subservience to a greater power. A nation of bottlers. It must really irk you that your country failed so spectacularly to take it's one chance of independence while when we got our chance we made it happen and didn't bottle it like you lot.
The trouble is there aren't really year zero options ie Scotland to spring into life, a fully formed independent nation with its own distinct economy, untrammelled by history and decisions previously made on its behalf. Attractive as Norway is, it evolved to its current state as much as any other nation. The first principle for me is that we decide whether or not we're in the EU, not have it imposed upon us by a much larger electorate with different motives and aspirations.
To be honest Norway is probably the very best example you can follow. Bear in mind it only gained its independence itself 110 years ago and was considered to be a pointless backwater by its former owners (I am not saying that is the case at all for Scotland just before some wag makes that claim)
I have no doubt Scotland can succeed and I am also sure England doesn't want a failed state on its Northern border so will do everything it can to make independence work if that is what the Scots vote for. As with the EU vote, the whole point of all the doom laden pronouncements and claims of playing hardball before the vote came from a desire to influence it. But in the EU case there is also the need to discourage others after the event. That is not the case with the UK and Scotland and I think Westminster would be far more reasonable post Scotland's Yes vote than they would be in the referendum campaign.
Club refute ‘wholly false’ claim by Mustafa Bashir that he would receive a professional contract if he was not sent to prison
But the club have sent legal letters to Bashir’s lawyers refuting the “deeply disturbing” claim, saying it was “wholly false”. The club’s chief executive, Wasim Khan, has also given a statement to Manchester police.
It conjures the delicious vision of the EU defending the interests of Scotland, NI & Gib in negotiations, while Tessy's precious union sockpuppets angrily demand that aforementioned interests should be of no account.
Scotland/SNP has tremendous goodwill with the EU at the moment, I feel alot of others underestimate the value of this.
Goodwill doesn't butter any parsnips to butcher a phrase, but a drastic toning down (if not absence) of the Barroso/Spain line from last time is a big bonus.
The EU parliament and the European Comission are two very different beasts.
The former has just released a statement calling for the process to be arranged "in an orderly fashion so as not to negatively affect the European Union, its citizens, and the process of European integration".
Political project.
And leaving a political project after 40 years will have profound political consequences, above all to break up the UK.
I thought you said it wasn't happening and wouldn't happen?
As the full political consequences make themselves felt, rUK will baulk at 'taking back control'.
It's nine months so far and only 21% actively want the Brexit process reversed. The rest are one of three groups which in descending size: always wanted Brexit, didn't want it but believe it should be done to respect the vote, or don't have an expressed opinion. There needs to be an enormous change of heart to stop it now, even if it were legally possible which is highly questionable.
It conjures the delicious vision of the EU defending the interests of Scotland, NI & Gib in negotiations, while Tessy's precious union sockpuppets angrily demand that aforementioned interests should be of no account.
Scotland/SNP has tremendous goodwill with the EU at the moment, I feel alot of others underestimate the value of this.
Goodwill doesn't butter any parsnips to butcher a phrase, but a drastic toning down (if not absence) of the Barroso/Spain line from last time is a big bonus.
How can Scotland be independent if she continues to be run from Brussels?
She can't. It is the one great failing of the Scottish Independence Movement - that they apparently don't really want to be independent.
Does Scotland currently have more or less sovereignty than Ireland, Denmark or Belgium?
Less.
But then Scotland is in a single market with a common currency and fiscal transfers - how do you think these things work?
Now will you answer a question.
What's the SNP's policy on EU membership?
Answers a question not asked of her then stamps her foot for a reply to her own question.
Jog on and find someone who cares what you think.
"Less".
Are you stupid? Wait, no need to ask.
And another wee armchair Yoon lobs in..
Lol, I supported and still do support Scottish independence. I just don't think it will be delivered. You bottled it in 2014 and not enough people give a fuck about the EU, worse still those that do are Yes/Leavers who are now looking to stay home or switch to No. Get back in your corner with the dunce hat.
The sun is over the yardarm where you are I'm guessing, when wee dweebs gets macho on the internet.
Cat got your tongue? No answer to Carlotta's response, no answer to me. Just a snide remark. No wonder why your country is doomed to an existence of subservience to a greater power. A nation of bottlers. It must really irk you that your country failed so spectacularly to take it's one chance of independence while when we got our chance we made it happen and didn't bottle it like you lot.
Edit: dashing out now - will be back and will read the answer. If it's a question of signing individual trade deals, I am interested to know how a single country can negotiate a better deal than the largest trading bloc can.
It can do so because it only has to consider its own needs and those of the country it is doing the trade deal with. Not the needs of the other 27 countries who all have their own requirements and who all want to have a say in the final deal. Moreover we regain the ability to influence the way in which trade develops world wide by regaining our sets on various bodies that we gave up to the EU.
Countries have far less incentive to agree a beneficial trade deal for the UK than they do for the EU. We can get plenty of trade deals, but for significant markets these are likely to be dictated by the other side. We will either like it or lump it.
another German journalist who has never left London
This Der Spiegel article talks sense. IMO, the biggest problem in terms of difficulty is the 1922 artificial line across Ulster. The obvious solution is Irish reunification, but there are a lot of obstinate people in the 6 counties who would oppose this sensible solution.
Other solutions could involve a united Ireland reabsorbed into the UK, with heavily devolved powers; a repartition of Northern Ireland, with the unionist part staying in the UK; Northern Ireland being included in the customs union, but not the UK mainland; an arrangement where EIRE does customs checks on behalf of the island of Ireland, including the NI as part of the UK, or spot customs checks at the main roads, ports and airports of NI.
These are problems but not insurmountable problems.
Are these suggestions serious!? Only the transfer of the customs border to the Irish Sea, with the administration of the 6 counties remaining unchanged for the time being, is at all plausible/workable.
I have today delivered a letter to Mrs JackW stating that I shall be withdrawing from commitments that allow her to purchase items of footwear within 500 miles of the A50 trunk road.
It conjures the delicious vision of the EU defending the interests of Scotland, NI & Gib in negotiations, while Tessy's precious union sockpuppets angrily demand that aforementioned interests should be of no account.
Scotland/SNP has tremendous goodwill with the EU at the moment, I feel alot of others underestimate the value of this.
How can Scotland be independent if she continues to be run from Brussels?
She can't. It is the one great failing of the Scottish Independence Movement - that they apparently don't really want to be independent.
Does Scotland currently have more or less sovereignty than Ireland, Denmark or Belgium?
Less.
But then Scotland is in a single market with a common currency and fiscal transfers - how do you think these things work?
Now will you answer a question.
What's the SNP's policy on EU membership?
Answers a question not asked of her then stamps her foot for a reply to her own question.
Jog on and find someone who cares what you think.
"Less".
Are you stupid? Wait, no need to ask.
And another wee armchair Yoon lobs in..
Lol, I supported and still do support Scottish independence. I just don't think it will be delivered. You bottled it in 2014 and not enough people give a fuck about the EU, worse still those that do are Yes/Leavers who are now looking to stay home or switch to No. Get back in your corner with the dunce hat.
The sun is over the yardarm where you are I'm guessing, when wee dweebs gets macho on the internet.
Cat got your tongue? No answer to Carlotta's response, no answer to me. Just a snide remark. No wonder why your country is doomed to an existence of subservience to a greater power. A nation of bottlers. It must really irk you that your country failed so spectacularly to take it's one chance of independence while when we got our chance we made it happen and didn't bottle it like you lot.
Not had a single drop (flight delayed). The truth must really hurt you when you have to resort to petty insults. Clearly you've just become completely and utterly bitter over independence, understandably since you must see the same numbers we can all see. You had one chance and you bottled it and now you have to live out the rest of you meagre existence as a part of the UK. Until the day you die, Scotland will remain in the Union and for many generations afterwards. Brexit will, perversely, strengthen the Union.
It conjures the delicious vision of the EU defending the interests of Scotland, NI & Gib in negotiations, while Tessy's precious union sockpuppets angrily demand that aforementioned interests should be of no account.
Scotland/SNP has tremendous goodwill with the EU at the moment, I feel alot of others underestimate the value of this.
Goodwill doesn't butter any parsnips to butcher a phrase, but a drastic toning down (if not absence) of the Barroso/Spain line from last time is a big bonus.
How can Scotland be independent if she continues to be run from Brussels?
SNP hate England more than they hate Brussels.
You can't say the SNP 'hate' England as a country unless you are also willing to say that Brexiteers 'hate' Europe as a continent. You can say they hate Westminster, but that is very different to hating England, which implies hating the English.
It conjures the delicious vision of the EU defending the interests of Scotland, NI & Gib in negotiations, while Tessy's precious union sockpuppets angrily demand that aforementioned interests should be of no account.
Scotland/SNP has tremendous goodwill with the EU at the moment, I feel alot of others underestimate the value of this.
Goodwill doesn't butter any parsnips to butcher a phrase, but a drastic toning down (if not absence) of the Barroso/Spain line from last time is a big bonus.
The EU parliament and the European Comission are two very different beasts.
The former has just released a statement calling for the process to be arranged "in an orderly fashion so as not to negatively affect the European Union, its citizens, and the process of European integration".
Political project.
And leaving a political project after 40 years will have profound political consequences, above all to break up the UK.
I thought you said it wasn't happening and wouldn't happen?
It will have profound financial consequences to William: T-2 years until he loses £1,000 to SeanT.
Before that becomes an embedded memory, I believe they both settled on a smaller figure - ISTR £100. Someone'll probably remember better than myself.
Edit: or am I wrong? An order of magnitude or two out is a bit much, even for an engineer ...
another German journalist who has never left London
This Der Spiegel article talks sense. IMO, the biggest problem in terms of difficulty is the 1922 artificial line across Ulster. The obvious solution is Irish reunification, but there are a lot of obstinate people in the 6 counties who would oppose this sensible solution.
Other solutions could involve a united Ireland reabsorbed into the UK, with heavily devolved powers; a repartition of Northern Ireland, with the unionist part staying in the UK; Northern Ireland being included in the customs union, but not the UK mainland; an arrangement where EIRE does customs checks on behalf of the island of Ireland, including the NI as part of the UK, or spot customs checks at the main roads, ports and airports of NI.
These are problems but not insurmountable problems.
Are these suggestions serious!? Only the transfer of the customs border to the Irish Sea, with the administration of the 6 counties remaining unchanged for the time being, is at all plausible/workable.
I was listing out other options, some are not much less likely than Irish reunification.
It conjures the delicious vision of the EU defending the interests of Scotland, NI & Gib in negotiations, while Tessy's precious union sockpuppets angrily demand that aforementioned interests should be of no account.
Scotland/SNP has tremendous goodwill with the EU at the moment, I feel alot of others underestimate the value of this.
Goodwill doesn't butter any parsnips to butcher a phrase, but a drastic toning down (if not absence) of the Barroso/Spain line from last time is a big bonus.
How can Scotland be independent if she continues to be run from Brussels?
SNP hate England more than they hate Brussels.
You can't say the SNP 'hate' England as a country unless you are also willing to say that Brexiteers 'hate' Europe as a continent. You can say they hate Westminster, but that is very different to hating England, which implies hating the English.
You can say the SNP hate the UK just as UKIP hated the EU
France's ex-Prime Minister Manuel Valls has thrown his weight behind the centrist candidate for the presidency, Emmanuel Macron, and not his own Socialist party's candidate.
As posted earlier Le Pen will now try to appeal to Fillon voters in the runoff by portraying Macron as the 'real' Socialist Party candidate
Edit: dashing out now - will be back and will read the answer. If it's a question of signing individual trade deals, I am interested to know how a single country can negotiate a better deal than the largest trading bloc can.
It can do so because it only has to consider its own needs and those of the country it is doing the trade deal with. Not the needs of the other 27 countries who all have their own requirements and who all want to have a say in the final deal. Moreover we regain the ability to influence the way in which trade develops world wide by regaining our sets on various bodies that we gave up to the EU.
Countries have far less incentive to agree a beneficial trade deal for the UK than they do for the EU. We can get plenty of trade deals, but for significant markets these are likely to be dictated by the other side. We will either like it or lump it.
Countries will decide trade deals on their own terms in their own time. Trade deals with the EU are slow, cumbersome and certainly not always in the best interests of all the member states. TTIP was a good example of this and as a blueprint for trade deals is something we are far better leaving behind.
Edit: dashing out now - will be back and will read the answer. If it's a question of signing individual trade deals, I am interested to know how a single country can negotiate a better deal than the largest trading bloc can.
It can do so because it only has to consider its own needs and those of the country it is doing the trade deal with. Not the needs of the other 27 countries who all have their own requirements and who all want to have a say in the final deal. Moreover we regain the ability to influence the way in which trade develops world wide by regaining our sets on various bodies that we gave up to the EU.
Countries have far less incentive to agree a beneficial trade deal for the UK than they do for the EU. We can get plenty of trade deals, but for significant markets these are likely to be dictated by the other side. We will either like it or lump it.
Countries will decide trade deals on their own terms in their own time. Trade deals with the EU are slow, cumbersome and certainly not always in the best interests of all the member states. TTIP was a good example of this and as a blueprint for trade deals is something we are far better leaving behind.
CETA is another example of where the other party were ready to liberalise services trade but the EU didn't go for it. In a UK/Canada deal we could probably agree to fairly significant services alignment which would be extremely beneficial to both nations.
Robertson neglecting to mention that the SNP White Paper on Independence explicitly raised the risk of a BREXIT referendum as being a reason for voting for independence.....
Tusk really is living on another planet if he thinks the EU is closer and more determined to unite now.
He maybe realises the enormity of the decision and that it is not only going to dominate the UK but the EU is going to be paralysed itself during the process
Today the reality has hit the heart of Europe.
Looking forward to Donald's comments and also other World leaders.
I thought that was a measured response from Tusk. "We miss you already". The EU is going to be seriously diminished by the loss of nearly 20% of its population and GDP. Tusk is acknowledging this.
What I hope is that after today the posturing and reiteration of the arguments that were determined in June and we go on to have a pragmatic, sensible negotiation resulting in a sensible deal in the interests of each party. There will be flare ups and bitter disagreement but they cannot be allowed to set the overall tone of these discussions.
"But it is the expectation of the Government that the outcome of this process will be a significant increase in the decision-making power of each devolved administration."
"But it is the expectation of the Government that the outcome of this process will be a significant increase in the decision-making power of each devolved administration."
" In security terms a failure to reach agreement would mean our cooperation in the fight against crime and terrorism would be weakened."
Carrot:
"we want to play our part in making sure that Europe remains strong and prosperous and able to lead in the world, projecting its values and defending itself from security threats. And we want the United Kingdom to play its full part in realising that vision for our continent."
That letter is the first hopeful sign that the UK government is not looking to jump off the cliff. That is very good news.
Brexiteer implosion incoming?
And that is the danger. If May really does want to bring the Remainers onside she should make very clear that the swivel-eyed Tory right and its newspapers will not be dictating what happens from here on in.
Not had a single drop (flight delayed). The truth must really hurt you when you have to resort to petty insults. Clearly you've just become completely and utterly bitter over independence, understandably since you must see the same numbers we can all see. You had one chance and you bottled it and now you have to live out the rest of you meagre existence as a part of the UK. Until the day you die, Scotland will remain in the Union and for many generations afterwards. Brexit will, perversely, strengthen the Union.
I thought that was a measured response from Tusk. "We miss you already". The EU is going to be seriously diminished by the loss of nearly 20% of its population and GDP. Tusk is acknowledging this.
What I hope is that after today the posturing and reiteration of the arguments that were determined in June and we go on to have a pragmatic, sensible negotiation resulting in a sensible deal in the interests of each party. There will be flare ups and bitter disagreement but they cannot be allowed to set the overall tone of these discussions.
Absolutely but Theresa May's letter seems to being well received. It was the right tone and will be difficult to argue with
May's letter just says 'want to avoid a return to a hard border'.
The letter is full of "we wants", there aren't any firm red lines laid out in it, but you can bet it will be one, and I think she was clearer on this replying to Dodds in the Commons.
That letter is the first hopeful sign that the UK government is not looking to jump off the cliff. That is very good news.
Brexiteer implosion incoming?
And that is the danger. If May really does want to bring the Remainers onside she should make very clear that the swivel-eyed Tory right and its newspapers will not be dictating what happens from here on in.
No, May if she is sensible will keep all the hard Brexit rhetoric but in private be more measured and then only once a deal is done allow the likes of the Express to cry "betrayal', which barring her blocking up the Channel Tunnel they will almost certainly do
I thought that was a measured response from Tusk. "We miss you already". The EU is going to be seriously diminished by the loss of nearly 20% of its population and GDP. Tusk is acknowledging this.
What I hope is that after today the posturing and reiteration of the arguments that were determined in June and we go on to have a pragmatic, sensible negotiation resulting in a sensible deal in the interests of each party. There will be flare ups and bitter disagreement but they cannot be allowed to set the overall tone of these discussions.
Absolutely but Theresa May's letter seems to being well received. It was the right tone and will be difficult to argue with
The detail is going to be problematic. But it is a good and sensible start.
Edit: dashing out now - will be back and will read the answer. If it's a question of signing individual trade deals, I am interested to know how a single country can negotiate a better deal than the largest trading bloc can.
It can do so because it only has to consider its own needs and those of the country it is doing the trade deal with. Not the needs of the other 27 countries who all have their own requirements and who all want to have a say in the final deal. Moreover we regain the ability to influence the way in which trade develops world wide by regaining our sets on various bodies that we gave up to the EU.
Edit: dashing out now - will be back and will read the answer. If it's a question of signing individual trade deals, I am interested to know how a single country can negotiate a better deal than the largest trading bloc can.
It can do so because it only has to consider its own needs and those of the country it is doing the trade deal with. Not the needs of the other 27 countries who all have their own requirements and who all want to have a say in the final deal. Moreover we regain the ability to influence the way in which trade develops world wide by regaining our sets on various bodies that we gave up to the EU.
I'm not sure that's how either international trade deals or individual company decisions go.
That letter is the first hopeful sign that the UK government is not looking to jump off the cliff. That is very good news.
Brexiteer implosion incoming?
And that is the danger. If May really does want to bring the Remainers onside she should make very clear that the swivel-eyed Tory right and its newspapers will not be dictating what happens from here on in.
Her letter really does that and will be the document she will be judged on. Again as I have repeatedly said she is aiming to satisfy the middle 70% - soft and hard positions will fail
I thought that was a measured response from Tusk. "We miss you already". The EU is going to be seriously diminished by the loss of nearly 20% of its population and GDP. Tusk is acknowledging this.
What I hope is that after today the posturing and reiteration of the arguments that were determined in June and we go on to have a pragmatic, sensible negotiation resulting in a sensible deal in the interests of each party. There will be flare ups and bitter disagreement but they cannot be allowed to set the overall tone of these discussions.
There is a difference between the EU not making it look easy to leave the EU, and actively making it difficult and making an example of the UK.
One would hope the former will win out. But there may be a political need to let tabloids and MEPs at the fringes to blow off on the latter.
To be honest, the UK is something of a semi-detached special case anyway. No other EU member has quite the same choices - except perhaps Germany - all almost all would have a far harder job leaving, particularly a Eurozone member.
I'm not convinced there is much the EU can do to harm our long-term prosperity anyway, but, even if I'm wrong, doing that wouldn't substitute for the hardthinking on - yet alone fix - the many real internal problems it has in facing up to its own future.
Tusk really is living on another planet if he thinks the EU commission is closer and more determined to unite now.
Corrected for you...
The plebs in France, Italy, Holland, etc who aren't very happy with the EU, well they will just have to lump it when the EU project moves forward at speed to even closer union.
"But we also propose a bold and ambitious Free Trade Agreement between the United Kingdom and the European Union. This should be of greater scope and ambition than any such agreement before it so that it covers sectors crucial to our linked economies such as financial services and network industries. This will require detailed technical talks, but as the UK is an existing EU member state, both sides have regulatory frameworks and standards that already match. We should therefore prioritise how we manage the evolution of our regulatory frameworks to maintain a fair and open trading environment, and how we resolve disputes. "
Sounds to me like a goal of a renegotiation based on regulatory collaboration and alignment on financial services, energy, transport, aviation and telecoms to me.
Not had a single drop (flight delayed). The truth must really hurt you when you have to resort to petty insults. Clearly you've just become completely and utterly bitter over independence, understandably since you must see the same numbers we can all see. You had one chance and you bottled it and now you have to live out the rest of you meagre existence as a part of the UK. Until the day you die, Scotland will remain in the Union and for many generations afterwards. Brexit will, perversely, strengthen the Union.
Lolz
Still no answers then. Big surprise.
£1000 that Scotland will not be independent of the UK by 2022. This offer is open until 14:20 UK time (21:20 Manila time). That's when I have to board.
It conjures the delicious vision of the EU defending the interests of Scotland, NI & Gib in negotiations, while Tessy's precious union sockpuppets angrily demand that aforementioned interests should be of no account.
Scotland/SNP has tremendous goodwill with the EU at the moment, I feel alot of others underestimate the value of this.
Goodwill doesn't butter any parsnips to butcher a phrase, but a drastic toning down (if not absence) of the Barroso/Spain line from last time is a big bonus.
How can Scotland be independent if she continues to be run from Brussels?
She can't. It is the one great failing of the Scottish Independence Movement - that they apparently don't really want to be independent.
The usual suspects always drift off when I ask this, but I believe you're more honest.
Does Scotland currently have more or less sovereignty than Ireland, Denmark or Belgium?
Far less. That is why I am in favour of Scottish Independence.
But they would certainly lose a fair bit of what they had gained in sovereignty if they were to go back into the EU after becoming independent. Too much for my mind - which is of course why I am a strong supporter of Brexit for either the UK as a whole or its constituent nations.
Scotland rightly quotes Norway as an example of what they could be. Going for EEA membership would be a sensible move after Independence. Going back into the EU really would not.
The trouble is there aren't really year zero options ie Scotland to spring into life, a fully formed independent nation with its own distinct economy, untrammelled by history and decisions previously made on its behalf. Attractive as Norway is, it evolved to its current state as much as any other nation. The first principle for me is that we decide whether or not we're in the EU, not have it imposed upon us by a much larger electorate with different motives and aspirations. edit: And the ability to make that decision seems to me the absolute foundation of sovereignty.
The referendum question asked on June 23rd was "should the UNITED KINGDOM remain in the EU or leave the EU?"
ScottP losing his mind on Sky over one sentence in the letter regarding May stating UK long held security and intelligence strengths which EU countries make use of.
"Together, I know we are capable of reaching an agreement about the UK’s rights and obligations as a departing member state, while establishing a deep and special partnership that contributes towards the prosperity, security and global power of our continent."
We will pay and cooperate, but only if you work on the framework for the long-term deal with us.
There is a difference between the EU not making it look easy to leave the EU, and actively making it difficult and making an example of the UK.
One would hope the former will win out. But there may be a political need to let tabloids and MEPs at the fringes to blow off on the latter.
To be honest, the UK is something of a semi-detached special case anyway. No other EU member has quite the same choices - except perhaps Germany - all almost all would have a far harder job leaving, particularly a Eurozone member.
I'm not convinced there is much the EU can do to harm our long-term prosperity anyway, but, even if I'm wrong, doing that wouldn't substitute for the hardthinking on - yet alone fix - the many real internal problems it has in facing up to its own future.
Whilst I agree with that I think it is indisputable that that special, semi-detached status has made European integration and co-operation more difficult as our politicians have appreciated that they simply cannot sell such a deal here. This has particularly caused problems for the EZ given our insistence that they could not use the existing EU structures to control and co-ordinate their policies. I think the remaining non EZ members will not be able to maintain that without our support and, for the EZ and the EU economy that might be a good thing.
The response of the UK to every step forward in the EU for a couple of decades or more, certainly since Maastricht, has been to seek opt outs, special exemptions and limitations on what has been proposed. I think Tusk is sincerely sorry to see us go but he may be right that EU integration will be less complicated going forward.
Apologies if someone else has pointed this out, or if I have my French wrong, but surely Marie le Conte mistranslated the headline. Is it not "You miss us already" rather than "We miss you already"?
Apologies if someone else has pointed this out, or if I have my French wrong, but surely Marie le Conte mistranslated the headline. Is it not "You miss us already" rather than "We miss you already"?
Edit: Sorry, I misread your post. No, it's 'We miss you already'.
ScottP losing his mind on Sky over one sentence in the letter regarding May stating UK long held security and intelligence strengths which EU countries make use of.
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I have no doubt Scotland can succeed and I am also sure England doesn't want a failed state on its Northern border so will do everything it can to make independence work if that is what the Scots vote for. As with the EU vote, the whole point of all the doom laden pronouncements and claims of playing hardball before the vote came from a desire to influence it. But in the EU case there is also the need to discourage others after the event. That is not the case with the UK and Scotland and I think Westminster would be far more reasonable post Scotland's Yes vote than they would be in the referendum campaign.
But the club have sent legal letters to Bashir’s lawyers refuting the “deeply disturbing” claim, saying it was “wholly false”. The club’s chief executive, Wasim Khan, has also given a statement to Manchester police.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/29/leicestershire-cricket-club-police-contract-abusive-husband-mustafa-bashir?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
I have today delivered a letter to Mrs JackW stating that I shall be withdrawing from commitments that allow her to purchase items of footwear within 500 miles of the A50 trunk road.
A truly remarkable and historic day ....
What's the SNP's policy on EU membership?
Answer comes there none....
May did calm, collected, pragmatic...Jezza is doing full on rant mode.
I believe EiT is the arbiter of the bet.
Corbyn is on the other hand simply desperate to find additional responsibilities for the UK taxpayer. No change there.
Who knows what the future holds?
Firstly the PM would simply have replied that she was making a statement shortly when his questions would be answered.
Secondly Corbyn keeps his powder dry for after her statement.
Edit: Ok Onto page 2 - 'Selective transposition of EU to domestic law'
Today the reality has hit the heart of Europe.
Looking forward to Donald's comments and also other World leaders.
https://mobile.twitter.com/eucopresident/status/847047933405093892
Official version on the Government Website.
What I hope is that after today the posturing and reiteration of the arguments that were determined in June and we go on to have a pragmatic, sensible negotiation resulting in a sensible deal in the interests of each party. There will be flare ups and bitter disagreement but they cannot be allowed to set the overall tone of these discussions.
Can we please enjoy a deep & special partnership.
Thanks,
John.
Important.
May will make the Scottish people a better offer.
" In security terms a failure to reach agreement would mean our cooperation in the fight against crime and terrorism would be weakened."
Carrot:
"we want to play our part in making sure that Europe remains strong and prosperous and able to lead in the world, projecting its values and defending itself from security threats. And we want the United Kingdom to play its full part in realising that vision for our continent."
Her position is as incoherent as ever, as it must be given that she has been tasked with implementing an incoherent policy by the electorate.
@chrisbrooke
I like to think that the person who ferried the Article 50 letter over to Brussels late last night was one of the DExEU's Midnight Runners.
https://twitter.com/NeilGrayMP/status/847058649574977536
One would hope the former will win out. But there may be a political need to let tabloids and MEPs at the fringes to blow off on the latter.
To be honest, the UK is something of a semi-detached special case anyway. No other EU member has quite the same choices - except perhaps Germany - all almost all would have a far harder job leaving, particularly a Eurozone member.
I'm not convinced there is much the EU can do to harm our long-term prosperity anyway, but, even if I'm wrong, doing that wouldn't substitute for the hardthinking on - yet alone fix - the many real internal problems it has in facing up to its own future.
The plebs in France, Italy, Holland, etc who aren't very happy with the EU, well they will just have to lump it when the EU project moves forward at speed to even closer union.
Sounds to me like a goal of a renegotiation based on regulatory collaboration and alignment on financial services, energy, transport, aviation and telecoms to me.
£1000 that Scotland will not be independent of the UK by 2022. This offer is open until 14:20 UK time (21:20 Manila time). That's when I have to board.
We will pay and cooperate, but only if you work on the framework for the long-term deal with us.
There's a lot in this letter.
The response of the UK to every step forward in the EU for a couple of decades or more, certainly since Maastricht, has been to seek opt outs, special exemptions and limitations on what has been proposed. I think Tusk is sincerely sorry to see us go but he may be right that EU integration will be less complicated going forward.
Born to be kings
We're the Princes of the EU-niverse!
Here we belong!
Fighting to survive
In a world with the darkest power!