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  • sladeslade Posts: 2,147
    Sean_F said:

    Probably Robert Harris, Neil Gaiman, the Tolkien Estate, among others mentioned.
    Bernard Cornwell?
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    I passed an elderly couple some years back and the wife asked her husband " Will it be tiaras tonight ? ". I felt Edwardian.

    Mrs JackW hasn't worn any of the formal family rocks for many a year. They sit in a vault .... fortunately not in Hatton Garden !!

    Sometimes I feel that most PBers have a very different lifestyle from my own ... :)

    The wide variety of backgrounds on PB is a great strength and much to be commended.

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,381
    Mr. F, given some of what I see on Twitter, I can only imagine more are about.

    Besides, if need be I can always just remind them of my evil white maleness :p
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400

    Mr. Ominum, Kingdom Asunder is better than Bleak House, though not as long. The Sir Edric Books are also better than Bleak House. Over to you to get those express deliveries working.
    And yet they're not. I have read some of our famous correspondent's (MD's) work and I'm certain that Mr Dickens doesn't have anything just yet to fear from him in a competitive sense.


  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    I was thinking more of the Muslim vs Christian dichotomy, though of course Issa is a prophet in Islam.

    My Diabetic patients often go skewiff in Ramadan, no matter what the Imam says, they often still fast.
    Fasting in the high northern latitudes in the summer is no small matter. However, many a diabetic only has high sugar levels, not the fluctuating type. So fasting can actually help !
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,394
    edited March 2017
    notme said:

    Claim for possibly even more northern, living about four miles from gretna... Dinner was always the 12 noon meal. School dinner at dinner time, supervised by dinner ladies... Evening meal definitely Tea.
    Northern? Since New Year, I have visited, by rail:

    Berwick
    Carlisle
    Newcastle
    Sunderland
    South Shields
    South Hylton
    Scarborough
    Blackpool
    Preston
    Colne
    Clitheroe
    Hull
    York
    Selby
    Rose Grove (Burnley)
    Southport
    Liverpool
    Ormskirk
    Wigan
    Newton-le-Willows
    Warrington
    Chester
    Manchester
    Rose Hill (Marple)
    Leeds
    Bradford
    Saltaire
    Ilkley
    Knottingley
    Skipton
    Guiseley
    Huddersfield
    Sheffield
    Doncaster
    Wakefield
    Cleethorpes
    Lincoln

    Sadly, I go back to work on Wednesday....

    *withdrawal symptoms*
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    rcs1000 said:

    I miss Louise Mensch
    There is no cure for that.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    @Morris_Dancer

    "his [Sir Edric's] virtues are being quick-witted and genuinely liking horses"

    Oi! He is also a pipe smoker, the world would be a better place if more people still smoked pipes. He is also nice to dogs, well quite nice to Dog.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,381
    edited March 2017
    Mr. Omnium, perhaps. I've only read David Copperfield, of Dickens' works. I thought it very engaging, but he did have a tendency to use three sentences when a single word might suffice.

    There was also a displeasing absence of lesbian princesses.

    Edited extra bit: Mr. Llama, the pipe is nice. I saw a trailer for XCOM 2 the other day, just by chance, and the warnings at the start said it included blood, violence, and tobacco use.

    ....
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    surbiton said:

    Fasting in the high northern latitudes in the summer is no small matter. However, many a diabetic only has high sugar levels, not the fluctuating type. So fasting can actually help !
    It does play havoc with pill and insulin regimes!
  • Even after, I seemed to remember on a number of occasions wise crack from the comments got a public airing. I presume somebody in Team Dave had been alerted to them.
    Or someone on PB who was close to Team Cameron used to send them the gags he thought were very funny :innocent face:
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    I wouldn't know how to set about causing offence.
    I am sure that you will come up with something :-)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,381
    Mr. Eagles, *gasp!*

    Why didn't Cameron use my brilliant line about Blair supporting Brown being like Banquo's ghost campaigning for MacBeth? :p
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,343
    slade said:

    Bernard Cornwell?
    I don't think he'd quite reach £1m a year, though he might have done back in the 90's when he sometimes published three novels a year and Sharpe was on TV.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,343

    Mr. Meeks, Sir Edric, the protagonist, is a vain, selfish, mostly drunk, fornicating self-absorbed cad, who is also quite racist against elves.

    Surprisingly, only one review disliked his antics, most of them really liked him.

    It was also interesting to focus on writing a character full of vices and trying to add a virtue, rather than going from the other direction (his virtues are being quick-witted and genuinely liking horses).

    His racism towards elves doesn't stop him from lusting after them, however.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,381
    Mr. F, elves are wicked. Only their gorgeousness has saved them from extinction.

    http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/guest-post-why-elves-are-total-bastards.html
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,343

    Mr. Omnium, perhaps. I've only read David Copperfield, of Dickens' works. I thought it very engaging, but he did have a tendency to use three sentences when a single word might suffice.

    There was also a displeasing absence of lesbian princesses.

    Edited extra bit: Mr. Llama, the pipe is nice. I saw a trailer for XCOM 2 the other day, just by chance, and the warnings at the start said it included blood, violence, and tobacco use.

    ....

    The funniest critical review of the Lord of the Rings films denounced them for portraying tobacco use.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400

    Mr. Omnium, perhaps. I've only read David Copperfield, of Dickens' works. I thought it very engaging, but he did have a tendency to use three sentences when a single word might suffice.

    There was also a displeasing absence of lesbian princesses.

    I'm so jealous of your lack of reading! When you get around to reading Dickens you're in for a treat. Lesbian Princesses aren't everything you know. (I'm prepared to engage in some test mind you)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,381
    Mr. F, I've got to say, nine hours is excessive for a story about a quartet of midgets struggling to dispose of stolen jewellery.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Omnium said:

    And yet they're not. I have read some of our famous correspondent's (MD's) work and I'm certain that Mr Dickens doesn't have anything just yet to fear from him in a competitive sense.


    Mr. Ominum, you said "Tell me of a book is better than Bleak House and I'll get it delivered to me by express." I have. You may prefer Bleak House to a book that you haven't read but that is your problem not mine.

    Personally, I sooner stick my todger in a cheese-grater covered with oven cleaning fluid than wade through the turgid guff of Dickens once again.

    Each to their own, but it is not right to make promises that you are not prepared to keep. Makes one look a bit of a knob.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,381
    Mr. Omnium, then buy Kingdom Asunder and see what you think ;)

    As for lack of reading: you're quite right. I still haven't read a single line of Plutarch or Appian.
  • Sean_F said:

    The funniest critical review of the Lord of the Rings films denounced them for portraying tobacco use.
    There was that story some in America wanted The Two Towers banned because it was felt to be insensitive for a film with that title to be released a year after 9/11
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Mr. Ominum, you said "Tell me of a book is better than Bleak House and I'll get it delivered to me by express." I have. You may prefer Bleak House to a book that you haven't read but that is your problem not mine.

    Personally, I sooner stick my todger in a cheese-grater covered with oven cleaning fluid than wade through the turgid guff of Dickens once again.

    Each to their own, but it is not right to make promises that you are not prepared to keep. Makes one look a bit of a knob.
    You'd only have a bit of a knob if you stick your todger in cheese grater !!!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,307

    Mr. F, elves are wicked. Only their gorgeousness has saved them from extinction.

    http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/guest-post-why-elves-are-total-bastards.html

    True words, my friend, true words.
  • I'm assuming the 2% think Tony Blair was a Tory?

    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/843484042142060544
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,343

    Mr. F, elves are wicked. Only their gorgeousness has saved them from extinction.

    http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/guest-post-why-elves-are-total-bastards.html

    Most humans in The Witcher series share Sir Edric's views.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502

    There was that story some in America wanted The Two Towers banned because it was felt to be insensitive for a film with that title to be released a year after 9/11
    They're lucky that Tolkein didn't call it "The Twin Towers". That would have been problematic!
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I am on George's side in this. Its Jezza that has been stealing a living as an MP the last 18 months with his part time antics.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,381
    Mr. F, I've always said The Witcher is very good indeed (not read any of them but have sunk many hours into The Witcher 3. Will get the DLC at some point, which is very rare for me).
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,307

    Mr. F, elves are wicked. Only their gorgeousness has saved them from extinction.

    http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/guest-post-why-elves-are-total-bastards.html

    I see you reread R Scott Bakker and liked it this time around. Maybe I should give it another go - I actually read the whole initial trilogy, but outside of a few details all i can remember is it seemed to have a high opinion of its own cleverness and every single character was annoying.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,381
    Anyway, much as I'm enjoying this conversation I'm afraid I must be off.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,307
    tlg86 said:

    They're lucky that Tolkein didn't call it "The Twin Towers". That would have been problematic!
    If it had been up to him he might not have called it anything, given it was supposed to be one big book in six parts, not a trilogy.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400

    Mr. Omnium, then buy Kingdom Asunder and see what you think ;)

    As for lack of reading: you're quite right. I still haven't read a single line of Plutarch or Appian.

    I have already - one of your works anyway. I thought it was ok - decent writing. However it was a sea of hooks and not a single one got me. My thoughts were that you should choose your hook.

    I've only read a little Plutarch, and I wasn't even aware of any works by Appian (No way!).
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502
    kle4 said:

    If it had been up to him he might not have called it anything, given it was supposed to be one big book in six parts, not a trilogy.
    This is true. If they'd split it into six parts they could have made even more money, though from what I remember, the last movie covers a lot more than the last two books.
  • YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382
    Omnium said:

    I'm so jealous of your lack of reading! When you get around to reading Dickens you're in for a treat. Lesbian Princesses aren't everything you know. (I'm prepared to engage in some test mind you)
    I studied Hard Times facts facts facts who is Gradgrind in today's political world ?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,343
    edited March 2017

    Mr. F, I've always said The Witcher is very good indeed (not read any of them but have sunk many hours into The Witcher 3. Will get the DLC at some point, which is very rare for me).

    Most elves are indeed complete bastards in that world. But, so are most humans.

    It's a great series, with some excellent humour, especially if you like reading about genocide, racial hatred, bubonic plague, vivisection, and an impending ice age that will kill 90% of the world's population.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,047

    Mr. F, I've always said The Witcher is very good indeed (not read any of them but have sunk many hours into The Witcher 3. Will get the DLC at some point, which is very rare for me).

    In the last two years, 99% of my video game playing time has been either Hitman or the new Zelda. I suspect that Witcher 3 would also have captured my attention :-)
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,116
    JackW said:

    The wide variety of backgrounds on PB is a great strength and much to be commended.
    Oh, indeed. I look forward to offsetting the stories of posh hotels and the finest restaurants with my reviews of the best wild campsites along the Thames and the best one-pot recipes with spam. ;)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,381
    Ahem, briefly: Mr. kle4, there is some of that. The first time I read it, that really annoyed me, angered almost. The second time I was surprised by liking it rather more but (not unlike Dickens) there could be a lot cut out. Too many words.

    Mr. Omnium, well, all my books are quite different (most especially Sir Edric and the rest, but there's still a great shift from Bane of Souls to Kingdom Asunder). Could always try a sample, see if it takes your fancy. Or not, as you like.

    Anyway, now I must be off before I go entirely blind.
  • tlg86 said:

    This is true. If they'd split it into six parts they could have made even more money, though from what I remember, the last movie covers a lot more than the last two books.
    It did, most of the lot with Shelob took place in the second book.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400
    Yorkcity said:

    I studied Hard Times facts facts facts who is Gradgrind in today's political world ?
    I love that question, and I think it's best unanswered.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Mr. Ominum, you said "Tell me of a book is better than Bleak House and I'll get it delivered to me by express." I have. You may prefer Bleak House to a book that you haven't read but that is your problem not mine.

    Personally, I sooner stick my todger in a cheese-grater covered with oven cleaning fluid than wade through the turgid guff of Dickens once again.

    Each to their own, but it is not right to make promises that you are not prepared to keep. Makes one look a bit of a knob.
    To get back to how this started, surely the problem was that Dickens was indeed paid by the word. Many of his stories were overwordy as they were published in monthly magazines. Hence also pointless plot twists as sales dropped and new interest needed. I think Dostoyevsky suffered the same problem.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502

    It did, most of the lot with Shelob took place in the second book.
    Yes, though do you mean book 3/4 of the 6? I know why they did it, but I did think it was a shame that they didn't have the bit at the end in the Shire when things aren't so nice (rather than just the vision Frodo has with the elves).
  • isamisam Posts: 41,120
    He's changed his name to Mohammed? Is there no length Labour won't go to for the minority vote?
  • tlg86 said:


    Yes, though do you mean book 3/4 of the 6? I know why they did it, but I did think it was a shame that they didn't have the bit at the end in the Shire when things aren't so nice (rather than just the vision Frodo has with the elves).

    Yup, that's what I meant.

    I thought Lord of The Rings was unfilmable and would be a cinematic disaster, but I was delighted to have been proven so wrong.

    I would have liked to have seen that, as much as say the Tom Bombadil stuff at the start.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,394

    I'm assuming the 2% think Tony Blair was a Tory?

    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/843484042142060544

    How about the 7% who "don't know"? :lol:
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Oh, indeed. I look forward to offsetting the stories of posh hotels and the finest restaurants with my reviews of the best wild campsites along the Thames and the best one-pot recipes with spam. ;)
    If it makes you feel better, I have just enjoyed vegetarian toad in the hole, washed down with tapwater, with fox jr.

    Linda McCartney may have broken up the worlds greatest ever band, but she does make a good sausage.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,120

    To get back to how this started, surely the problem was that Dickens was indeed paid by the word. Many of his stories were overwordy as they were published in monthly magazines. Hence also pointless plot twists as sales dropped and new interest needed. I think Dostoyevsky suffered the same problem.
    The greatest book of all was written that way, 'Le Comte de Monte Cristo'
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133

    I was actually planning to do so. I have a large selection from the days when I had to wear one. However, I'm obliged for the opinions. Does anyone know if there's a bus-stop nearby?
    There are no buses on Brook Street (thankfully, it has horrible enough traffic).

    Depending where you're coming from, walk from Bond Street or Green Park - or there's a bus stop near Berkeley Square.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    isam said:

    The greatest book of all was written that way, 'Le Comte de Monte Cristo'
    Victorian books were their boxsets of their day.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    Oh, indeed. I look forward to offsetting the stories of posh hotels and the finest restaurants with my reviews of the best wild campsites along the Thames and the best one-pot recipes with spam. ;)
    Quite right, Mr. Jessup, of course you realise that most of these recent conversations, and the ones that you propose, fall foul of the B2/Apocalypse guidelines for the site.

    Anyway, leaving aside that Elves are complete bastards but cats keep them away from homes, are you still on for lunch/drinkies/high tea/supper/dinner on the weekend of 27/28 May? You choose the time slot and I will fit around you (I have a weekend ticket).
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,116

    Quite right, Mr. Jessup, of course you realise that most of these recent conversations, and the ones that you propose, fall foul of the B2/Apocalypse guidelines for the site.

    Anyway, leaving aside that Elves are complete bastards but cats keep them away from homes, are you still on for lunch/drinkies/high tea/supper/dinner on the weekend of 27/28 May? You choose the time slot and I will fit around you (I have a weekend ticket).
    Looking forward to it, thanks.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,597

    Mr. Ominum, you said "Tell me of a book is better than Bleak House and I'll get it delivered to me by express." I have. You may prefer Bleak House to a book that you haven't read but that is your problem not mine.

    Personally, I sooner stick my todger in a cheese-grater covered with oven cleaning fluid than wade through the turgid guff of Dickens once again.

    Each to their own, but it is not right to make promises that you are not prepared to keep. Makes one look a bit of a knob.
    I wouldn't use quite your wording, Mr Llama, about Dickens but entirely share the sentiment. I find Dickens entirely unreadable. The same with EM Forster.

    Vanity Fair, on the other hand, is an absolute gem!
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    edited March 2017
    I didn't hear him threatening him with punishment. He shouldn't have gone bat shit crazy towards his elder....but still.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,120
    Cyclefree said:

    I wouldn't use quite your wording, Mr Llama, about Dickens but entirely share the sentiment. I find Dickens entirely unreadable. The same with EM Forster.

    Vanity Fair, on the other hand, is an absolute gem!
    Great Expectations wasn't as good as I thought it'd be...
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    To get back to how this started, surely the problem was that Dickens was indeed paid by the word. Many of his stories were overwordy as they were published in monthly magazines. Hence also pointless plot twists as sales dropped and new interest needed. I think Dostoyevsky suffered the same problem.
    As indeed did did Dumas, who was also writing episodes for a magazine but in French of course. When I first retired, properly, one of the things that I did was to seriously re-read the Count of Monte-Cristo and try and work-out where the episodes began and ended. It was a fun exercise.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    nunu said:

    I didn't hear him threatening him with punishment. He shouldn't have gone bat shit crazy towards his elder....but still.
    For me is the mindset of the guy giving it to the bookshop owner,he's nuts,just hope he's not living down my street and he's got a majority of muslims backing this.

    Frightening future.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400

    As indeed did did Dumas, who was also writing episodes for a magazine but in French of course. When I first retired, properly, one of the things that I did was to seriously re-read the Count of Monte-Cristo and try and work-out where the episodes began and ended. It was a fun exercise.
    That's a great achievement for Dumas though - imagine writing such a great work, having to chop it up into chunks, and having to translate it into French!
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    I'm assuming the 2% think Tony Blair was a Tory?

    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/843484042142060544

    I am one of them.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,120
    Anyone else remember these opening titles? Brings back memories to me of being a kid trying to stay awake late on a Friday. So 80s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPa1RFAivy4
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    It does play havoc with pill and insulin regimes!
    Obviously, not for those on insulin. Metformin ? 5 hour gap ?
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    surbiton said:

    I am one of them.
    I certainly don't think that Lady Thatcher always acted as a Thatcherite.

    But that sort of thing is a little deep for a random opinion poll.

    More likely to be background moron-scatter.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    edited March 2017

    If it makes you feel better, I have just enjoyed vegetarian toad in the hole, washed down with tapwater, with fox jr.

    Linda McCartney may have broken up the worlds greatest ever band, but she does make a good sausage.
    Only a LibDem could write such a review !! .... :smile:

    Good night all .....

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    GeoffM said:

    I certainly don't think that Lady Thatcher always acted as a Thatcherite.

    But that sort of thing is a little deep for a random opinion poll.

    More likely to be background moron-scatter.

    "Have you ever been decapitated" will get 2%.

  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549


    "Have you ever been decapitated" will get 2%.

    Is Britain in Europe ? 52% will say No.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,954
    isam said:

    Anyone else remember these opening titles? Brings back memories to me of being a kid trying to stay awake late on a Friday. So 80s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPa1RFAivy4

    Yes. Where I lived we got the two ITV signals: the London one and the one for the south of England. So an interesting juxtaposition of news was available: Brixton riots and council corruption in Haringey; farmer Giles wins Hampshire best beef herd for second year running.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331


    "Have you ever been decapitated" will get 2%.

    Tim Collins could truthfully answer 'yes'.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    surbiton said:



    Is Britain in Europe ? 52% will say No.

    Tick tock tick tock

  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    edited March 2017
    Cyclefree said:

    I wouldn't use quite your wording, Mr Llama, about Dickens but entirely share the sentiment. I find Dickens entirely unreadable. The same with EM Forster.

    Vanity Fair, on the other hand, is an absolute gem!
    The same goes for movies for me sometimes. I do not know how many times I have seen Total Recall [ the one with Arnie ]. I don't think I have ever seen it from start to finish, but many times in parts. I know every scene. I think the acting is rubbish - including Sharon Stone's. Yet I watch it. Also the one [ I think it's called Capricorn One about a fictitious "Martian" landing in a desert ]. Absolute garbage. I know the plot. But I will watch next time I find it flicking channels.

    I bet I will do the same with the Martian. Only watched it twice though, so far. That is not a bad movie.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,394
    surbiton said:

    Is Britain in Europe ? 52% will say No.
    Europe and the EU are different things. Ask the Norwegians.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,851

    For me is the mindset of the guy giving it to the bookshop owner,he's nuts,just hope he's not living down my street and he's got a majority of muslims backing this.

    Frightening future.
    Its purely a function of criminal lunacy and violent nutters expanding their behaviour until they find boundaries.

    It is our fault for letting them behave like this.

    You may or may not agree with the philosophy expounded, but

    http://www.magma.ca/~yeti/troopers.html

    makes you think, doesn't it?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Breakfast 7am to 9am

    Lunch 12pm to 2pm

    Dinner 6pm to 8pm

    Tea is what you drink.

    If you don't agree with that, you're bloody uncivilised savages

    *Supper* never dinner
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,493

    Europe and the EU are different things. Ask the Norwegians.

    Being like Norway is not really leaving the EU. Ask the Brexiteers.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Charles said:

    *Supper* never dinner
    In the North, dinner is lunch if I am correct.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,394
    surbiton said:

    In the North, dinner is lunch if I am correct.
    You never had school dinners?
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    Europe and the EU are different things. Ask the Norwegians.
    WTF was talking about the EU ? Do you have to complicate everything ? It was a JOKE.
  • Charles said:

    *Supper* never dinner
    You're such a pleb Charles.

    Supper is a light meal, not the main evening meal that is dinner.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    Yes. Where I lived we got the two ITV signals: the London one and the one for the south of England. So an interesting juxtaposition of news was available: Brixton riots and council corruption in Haringey; farmer Giles wins Hampshire best beef herd for second year running.
    I used to love watching regional ITV news whenever I went out of London. It was innocent! I suppose the 5 minute BBC local news must be similar today also.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,394
    surbiton said:

    WTF was talking about the EU ? Do you have to complicate everything ? It was a JOKE.
    No need to swear, O humorless one.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    You never had school dinners?
    You mean that ?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,236

    Being like Norway is not really leaving the EU. Ask the Brexiteers.
    Actually it is exactly like leaving the EU because Norway is not in the EU. Many Brexiteers would be very happy with that option.
  • I wish I could write as brilliantly, forcefully, and passionately as Nick Cohen.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/19/jeremy-corbyn-labour-threat-party-election-support
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,613
    edited March 2017
    Hurray! I thought I'd missed all of the bickering about lunch, dinner, tea, etc. but still it goes on!

    For the record, I am 100% with MD on this one - dinner is at dinnertime and tea is at teatime.

    Clearly on this basis there is no such thing as a free lunch.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,236
    edited March 2017

    Hurray! I thought I'd missed all of the bickering about lunch, dinner, tea, etc. but still it goes on!

    For the record, I am 100% with MD on this one - dinner is at dinnertime and tea is at teatime.

    Clearly on this basis there is no such thing as a free lunch.

    Dinner is never at or around midday. That is lunch. Including Sunday Lunch. Tea is between 3.30 and 6pm. Anything after that is dinner until supper.
  • Sort of related to the whole dinner/lunch/tea thing.

    When does the afternoon end and the evening start?
  • RestharrowRestharrow Posts: 233

    Oh, indeed. I look forward to offsetting the stories of posh hotels and the finest restaurants with my reviews of the best wild campsites along the Thames and the best one-pot recipes with spam. ;)
    Wild camping is surprisingly popular on both sides of the river from Battersea to Rotherhithe and a boon for those whose resources may not extend to conventional "holiday solutions".
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Lunch is for wimps.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024

    Sort of related to the whole dinner/lunch/tea thing.

    When does the afternoon end and the evening start?

    30 mins after prevening
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,493
    edited March 2017
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,702
    Charles said:

    *Supper* never dinner
    No! I can accept regional differences in the terms - which, as far as I'm concerned, stem from the SIZE of the meal taken at the respective times of day (in the north it was always more common top have your big meal - your dinner - in the middle of the day than it was in the south. Dinner is a big meal, not a time specific one - hence school dinners/packed lunches). But supper is something easy if you're a bit peckish before you go to bed - maybe some cheese on toast, or a cheeky round of pancakes. You might be wearing your pyjamas. If you've gone out for it, it's fish and chips and you'll probably bring it home to eat it. It is in no way a synonym for your main evening meal.

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,613

    Sort of related to the whole dinner/lunch/tea thing.

    When does the afternoon end and the evening start?

    5 PM is afternoon. 6pm is evening. In between is Schrodinger's time of day.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,236

    Sort of related to the whole dinner/lunch/tea thing.

    When does the afternoon end and the evening start?

    According to Sheldon Cooper there should be a period from around 4pm to 6pm called "Prevening".
  • Lunch is for wimps.

    You are IDS and I claim my £5.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    Sort of related to the whole dinner/lunch/tea thing.

    When does the afternoon end and the evening start?

    When your PA goes home.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,702

    Sort of related to the whole dinner/lunch/tea thing.

    When does the afternoon end and the evening start?

    Now this is an interesting question, and in no way as emotionally loaded as the lunch/dinner/tea one. I'd say in the winter it starts at dusk, and in the summer at about 6 o'clock.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Watson vs Lansman - letssssssss get ready to rumble !!!!!
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,130

    You're such a pleb Charles.

    Supper is a light meal, not the main evening meal that is dinner.
    Have country suppers disappeared down the plughole with Dave?
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    "talks on an EU-Japan accord began in 2013 "

    So 4 years in - how many more to go?
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