I remember making a few hundred pounds on labour to win the Glenrothes by election because the odds had drifted so much, But know enough to know that until there's a good bit of emptying of ballot boxes no one really knows. I asked Mike on the site at about 10:30 if he thought it was value, it was.
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
Well, it's nice to have moved on from isnttheweatherbadbutwenorthernersaretough.com
A tale of two constituencies and racecourses:
Huntingdon (former MP John Major) - racing today abandoned due to strong winds. Sedgefield (former MP Tony Blair) - racing goes ahead.
30 years ago (roughly), I was pounding the streets of Greenwich in the rain working for Rosie Barnes. Thoroughly miserable day but it all ended well as the Conservative vote disintegrated - in truth, Labour's vote didn't fall that much from 1983 but the Conservatives (who had run Labour close back then) slumped to a deposit-losing third (I think it was still 12.5%).
It seemed at the time to be a big event and with the Truro by election a couple of weeks later famously got Norman Tebbit so flustered he spent a whole day attacking the Alliance which only increased the party's poll numbers.
In the end, of course, it made no difference at all. The Alliance's own contradictions tore it apart, Margaret Thatcher won a second landslide and Rosie Barnes sank into obscurity along with the rest of the SDP though the diaspora found their way into and eventually took over both the Labour parties (Blair via the likes of David Marquand) and the Conservatives (David Cameron via the likes of Chris Grayling and Danny Finkelstein).
Brings back some memories, but as you say, signified very little in the end. Tramping round Croydon North for Bill Pitt, 30 years later nothing has changed, you are free to choose a government (so long as it's Labour or Conservative!)
I posted this link yesterday evening but nobody reacted to it at the time. I recommended pbers watch the approx 31mins long video in the vain hope that some of you might like to hear the campaign reflections of our outstanding LD candidate Rebecca Hanson. If you had watched this facebook video feed you would have found out Rebecca's feelings on the likely result. Watch it now if you want to know.
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
It's not heat that you need. It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season. You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
Just worked out that more people have served in Labour's shadow cabinet since the 2015 GE (80) than served in the Thatcher / Major cabinets in total (75).
(Note - this is only the 18 years of their cabinets proper and excludes Thatcher's shadow cabinet 1975-9 and Major's brief one in 1997).
Right, enough about storms and by-elections. Dinner jacket going on, out to the opera this evening, followed by an early night and hopefully get up for the results. Have fun and good luck to those involved in Stoke and Copeland. Laters.
Always assume the most obvious result will happen in politics.
interesting philosophy. Like Brexit and Trump and Tory majority you mean?
I got the Tory majority wrong (and learnt my lesson from that). Brexit and Trump were not in any way surprising results.
Except they were about 90% unlikely to happen at close of polling!
Betting odds are not predictors (as OGH has pointed out on numerous occasions). Polls always showed Brexit to be on a knife edge.
"Polls always showed Brexit to be on a knife edge"
Not really
Saying Brexit and Trump were "the obvious result" is crazy
There's a difference between "on a knife edge" and "the obvious result". The polls did show Brexit to be on a knife edge (especially during the postal vote period before the murder of Jo Cox) but people didn't believe the polls.
Yeah that's what I am saying, they were not the obvious result.
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
The postal votes were always likely to be overwhelmingly Labour in Stoke. UKIP need a very strong performance on the day to overcome it.
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
Alot of smoke signals emerging that UKIP haven't done enough in Stoke. Now might be the time to lay them like a man.
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
Odd thing, 3 teens of no fixed abode arrested at the site. Who put the money up for the equipment?
The large scale production is pretty much all tended to illegals immigrants who are trafficked to the UK and live at the grow, while the money men never go anywhere near the actual production locations.
They say teens, might be, might also be that if you are trafficked to the UK you will be told if you ever get arrested claim you are a teenager.
So these busts shut down that location, arrest a handful of illegals, and the cycle starts up again somewhere else.
Last week's trial with the soon to be ex Councillor in Bath might have provided some leads. Some of the defendants in that case were Vietnamese.
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
Alot of smoke signals emerging that UKIP haven't done enough in Stoke. Now might be the time to lay them like a man.
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
The postal votes were always likely to be overwhelmingly Labour in Stoke. UKIP need a very strong performance on the day to overcome it.
yes, and on a low turnout, PVs might be 40% of votes. That's almost impossible to overturn.
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
Alot of smoke signals emerging that UKIP haven't done enough in Stoke. Now might be the time to lay them like a man.
Indeed. But...DYOR
Well I've got the liability up to £900 on them. Enough for me that to be honest.
Just worked out that more people have served in Labour's shadow cabinet since the 2015 GE (80) than served in the Thatcher / Major cabinets in total (75).
(Note - this is only the 18 years of their cabinets proper and excludes Thatcher's shadow cabinet 1975-9 and Major's brief one in 1997).
Perhaps we can look forward to a spell of having Gareth Snell as Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities in due course.
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
It's not heat that you need. It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season. You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
Interesting didn't know that, as I said not my area of expertise at all. I always assumed it was a greenhouse-like effect of heat that the lights were there to generate.
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
Alot of smoke signals emerging that UKIP haven't done enough in Stoke. Now might be the time to lay them like a man.
Indeed. But...DYOR
Well I've got the liability up to £900 on them. Enough for me that to be honest.
as in, you gain £900 if UKIP win? and lose it if they lose?
Just worked out that more people have served in Labour's shadow cabinet since the 2015 GE (80) than served in the Thatcher / Major cabinets in total (75).
(Note - this is only the 18 years of their cabinets proper and excludes Thatcher's shadow cabinet 1975-9 and Major's brief one in 1997).
Perhaps we can look forward to a spell of having Gareth Snell as Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities in due course.
The odious Snell will deliver a vaguely competent speech tonight and will then be touted as a 'rising star' and future leader of his party.
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
It's not heat that you need. It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season. You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
Interesting didn't know that, as I said not my area of expertise at all. I always assumed it was a greenhouse-like effect of heat that the lights were there to generate.
I doubt the economics and techniques of cannabis farms are an area of expertise to many posters on this site. Indeed, Mr.Pubgoer seems to be suspiciously knowledgeable.
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
It's not heat that you need. It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season. You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
Interesting didn't know that, as I said not my area of expertise at all. I always assumed it was a greenhouse-like effect of heat that the lights were there to generate.
Need daylight hours per day. That's what plants work by, hence growing seasons regardless of temperature. Using daylight bulbs will get you winter crops, provided the temperature is in the growing range.
Just worked out that more people have served in Labour's shadow cabinet since the 2015 GE (80) than served in the Thatcher / Major cabinets in total (75).
(Note - this is only the 18 years of their cabinets proper and excludes Thatcher's shadow cabinet 1975-9 and Major's brief one in 1997).
Perhaps we can look forward to a spell of having Gareth Snell as Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities in due course.
The odious Snell will deliver a vaguely competent speech tonight and will then be touted as a 'rising star' and future leader of his party.
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
It's not heat that you need. It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season. You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
Interesting didn't know that, as I said not my area of expertise at all. I always assumed it was a greenhouse-like effect of heat that the lights were there to generate.
I doubt the economics and techniques of cannabis farms are an area of expertise to many posters on this site. Indeed, Mr.Pubgoer seems to be suspiciously knowledgeable.
I tend to work on the assumption that there are experts on every topic under the sun on this site. It is a part of its charm.
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
It's not heat that you need. It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season. You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
Interesting didn't know that, as I said not my area of expertise at all. I always assumed it was a greenhouse-like effect of heat that the lights were there to generate.
I doubt the economics and techniques of cannabis farms are an area of expertise to many posters on this site. Indeed, Mr.Pubgoer seems to be suspiciously knowledgeable.
Never personally HL PBers have known many people. I just seem to have known a few more rogues than most over the years. Although I guess Sean T would probably lead the way in having known some dodgy geezers.
OK, Tories now saying "no comment.' in Copeland UKIP "no chance!" Pick the bones out of that.
UKIP no chance in Stoke.
Really?! Early call
Once postal votes started coming in, they saw the big numbers and felt not many would be theirs. Of course, they don't know how people voted. and they are crap at forecasting. Libs said UKIP can't win and they are good at forecsting
Alot of smoke signals emerging that UKIP haven't done enough in Stoke. Now might be the time to lay them like a man.
Indeed. But...DYOR
Well I've got the liability up to £900 on them. Enough for me that to be honest.
as in, you gain £900 if UKIP win? and lose it if they lose?
Sent you a PM, basically betting reasonably heavily against UKIP in both By-elections now.
Just worked out that more people have served in Labour's shadow cabinet since the 2015 GE (80) than served in the Thatcher / Major cabinets in total (75).
(Note - this is only the 18 years of their cabinets proper and excludes Thatcher's shadow cabinet 1975-9 and Major's brief one in 1997).
Perhaps we can look forward to a spell of having Gareth Snell as Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities in due course.
Or BREXIT......I'm sure he'd love to deal with.....what was he called it?
One bet I'd avoid right now is buying Labour on the SPIN in Stoke.
If they're doing badly enough to come 2nd (It doesn't look like that, but bear with me) then the chance they're doing badly enough to come 3rd is there too (Due to the quite close two second place horses).
Copeland was always a reasonably close two horse race (UKIP a very distant third in 2015) so the analysis is different there.
Always assume the most obvious result will happen in politics.
interesting philosophy. Like Brexit and Trump and Tory majority you mean?
I got the Tory majority wrong (and learnt my lesson from that). Brexit and Trump were not in any way surprising results.
Except they were about 90% unlikely to happen at close of polling!
Betting odds are not predictors (as OGH has pointed out on numerous occasions). Polls always showed Brexit to be on a knife edge.
"Polls always showed Brexit to be on a knife edge"
Not really
Saying Brexit and Trump were "the obvious result" is crazy
Before the Jo Cox murder there were some polls showing Leave ahead, after the murder most polls showed Remain ahead, not surprisingly some people were reluctant to tell pollsters they were for Leave because little was known about the murder suspect. By polling day it had become clear that the killer was not a mainstream Brexiteer but a complete nutcase and the public again felt comfortable sticking with their original choice. However it came too late to be reflected in the final polls. In the case of Trump, national polls which just had voting intention headline numbers did show him well behind, but there were some polls in the crucial marginal states that he needed to win. showing them neck and neck and Trump ahead by 1 or 2%. The Conservatives winning a majority in 2015 wasn't picked up in any poll and was probably caused by don't knows making up their minds at the last minute.
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
It's not heat that you need. It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season. You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
Interesting didn't know that, as I said not my area of expertise at all. I always assumed it was a greenhouse-like effect of heat that the lights were there to generate.
I doubt the economics and techniques of cannabis farms are an area of expertise to many posters on this site. Indeed, Mr.Pubgoer seems to be suspiciously knowledgeable.
Never personally HL PBers have known many people. I just seem to have known a few more rogues than most over the years. Although I guess Sean T would probably lead the way in having known some dodgy geezers.
I am reassured, Mr. Pubgoer.
In the who has known most crooks stakes, I would put SeanT well down the list. Anyone who has worked in the City for any length of time is probably leading him by a length and a half and those that have worked in merchant banking are so far clear of the field that they are could probably have a competition amongst themselves. The supposedly stale area of insurance is not immune either. I know of one chap, who might still be alive so I am not going to name him, having been thrown out of Lloyds for corrupt and improper practice used to do deals out of his Rolls Royce parked around the corner.
For the last forty or so years, Intel have been a dominant force in the chip industry with their x86 range. They've been challenged by upstart competitor AMD, who took a rather significant x86 market share off Chipzilla about ten to fifteen years ago.
However Intel fought back, and AMD consistently lagged behind the behemoth. However Intel are having significant problems moving onto their new 10-nanomemtre process, and yesterday AMD launched their new architecture, Ryzen. This is only slightly lower than Intel's fastest x86 offering, but under half the price.
Interesting times in the tech world. As performance gains by shrinking the process become harder and much more expensive, it pays to be clever.
Time will show whether AMD have really done this, or if it's all smoke and mirrors.
Still vividly recall the subtle shift over the first hour or two once the polls closed after the referendum. The smug complacency of a 10 point lead for Remain evaporated, and the financial chaps who had commissioned exit polls suddenly realised there was a reason there wasn't an official one.
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Would that be an indication they have given up hope?
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Would that be an indication they have given up hope?
I believe Dr Palmer informed us earlier that it was in keeping with current Labour Party policy. I think the justification was along the lines of them running their GOTV operation as usual and if a voter says they have voted you might as well believe him because getting on his case if it doesn't match what your teller says is not going to make him more likely to vote for you.
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Would that be an indication they have given up hope?
No. Standard Labour practice apparently (Nick Palmer explained it earlier)
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Of course there will also be information circulating already as to how the postal votes have gone!
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Would that be an indication they have given up hope?
No, simply a measure of priority. The thought is that it's more important to put all your resource into knocking up friends than it is to know the result in advance - only one actually gets you any more votes.
Personally I prefer to tell if I have the resource, but for an additional reason. Apparently up to 1 in 6 voters make up their mind inside the polling booth, and having a friendly face with a party badge at the entrance doesn't do any harm. We telled (what is the past tense of 'to tell'?) at one polling station in nine in my ward last May, so it got knocked up in the evening, and although we picked it due to strength, it was our best by miles. How much of that is between factors of underlying strength / smart knocking up / impact of seeing a teller at the polling station I can only conjecture.
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Of course there will also be information circulating already as to how the postal votes have gone!
there will be, although that can be hard to gauge and give false hope. you have to see through the paper and count at speed.
For the last forty or so years, Intel have been a dominant force in the chip industry with their x86 range. They've been challenged by upstart competitor AMD, who took a rather significant x86 market share off Chipzilla about ten to fifteen years ago.
However Intel fought back, and AMD consistently lagged behind the behemoth. However Intel are having significant problems moving onto their new 10-nanomemtre process, and yesterday AMD launched their new architecture, Ryzen. This is only slightly lower than Intel's fastest x86 offering, but under half the price.
Interesting times in the tech world. As performance gains by shrinking the process become harder and much more expensive, it pays to be clever.
Time will show whether AMD have really done this, or if it's all smoke and mirrors.
(I have no connection with either AMD or Intel)
8 cores and 16 threads at 3.6 GHZ for less than £400, that is pretty damn good (the nearest intel offering is £1,100). The release date is next week so I doubt someone is trying a smoke and mirrors strategy at this stage. So maybe AMD is really about to take the crown.
Wasn't AMD sold to the Japanese recently? If so all the IP and all the future profits have already gone off-shore.
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Would that be an indication they have given up hope?
No. Standard Labour practice apparently (Nick Palmer explained it earlier)
Seems odd but it is the way they do things.
It does seem very odd indeed for a party that claims to have a good GOTV machine. In the US, they measure the turnout almost by the hour targeted by post code, and send the volunteers around to the locations where the vote has not shown up. Can't do that without the data during the course of the day.
Call me jaded, but it all seems pretty lame stuff, even if I do think the MSM are biased against the GOP.
Yep. The long list of unfortunate brushes with the boys in blue and interesting attempts to bait, solicit fraud and assorted other political stunts suggests he might not be the most objective reporter of the political actualité.
For the last forty or so years, Intel have been a dominant force in the chip industry with their x86 range. They've been challenged by upstart competitor AMD, who took a rather significant x86 market share off Chipzilla about ten to fifteen years ago.
However Intel fought back, and AMD consistently lagged behind the behemoth. However Intel are having significant problems moving onto their new 10-nanomemtre process, and yesterday AMD launched their new architecture, Ryzen. This is only slightly lower than Intel's fastest x86 offering, but under half the price.
Interesting times in the tech world. As performance gains by shrinking the process become harder and much more expensive, it pays to be clever.
Time will show whether AMD have really done this, or if it's all smoke and mirrors.
(I have no connection with either AMD or Intel)
8 cores and 16 threads at 3.6 GHZ for less than £400, that is pretty damn good (the nearest intel offering is £1,100). The release date is next week so I doubt someone is trying a smoke and mirrors strategy at this stage. So maybe AMD is really about to take the crown.
Wasn't AMD sold to the Japanese recently? If so all the IP and all the future profits have already gone off-shore.
It looks a sweet chip. I'm waiting for a teardown of how they've done it.
I think you're thinking of ARM's takeover by Softbank. Profitable for me and many friends, but the end of an era.
Quite a clever place to do this. Heat sources will be well screened from thermal cameras etc.
They probably got erm.. grassed.. up by the electric company, those big lights use a ton of power, and cycling them to match a day/night cycle is a bit obvious, and one of the thing electric companies are asked to look out for.
If that's how they've been caught then they are utter idiots. You bypass the meter, *not that I know anything about this*. EDIT to add, they should now be using LED's as they use much less power and produce far less heat.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
It's not heat that you need. It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season. You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
Interesting didn't know that, as I said not my area of expertise at all. I always assumed it was a greenhouse-like effect of heat that the lights were there to generate.
Need daylight hours per day. That's what plants work by, hence growing seasons regardless of temperature. Using daylight bulbs will get you winter crops, provided the temperature is in the growing range.
Careful Mr Thompson.
You are displaying far too much expertise as an innocent,
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Of course there will also be information circulating already as to how the postal votes have gone!
there will be, although that can be hard to gauge and give false hope. you have to see through the paper and count at speed.
I attended the opening of Postal Votes fot the Norwich North By election in July 2009 on behalf of Craig Murray.From my observations I was able to correctly predict the % vote shares of each of the main parties to within 0.5%. In particular, I predicted that UKIP would beat the Greens - which surprised a lot of people at the time! The only vote share I was a bit out on was the BNP - who managed circa 2.5% rather than the 1% I had suggested from my tallying.
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Of course there will also be information circulating already as to how the postal votes have gone!
there will be, although that can be hard to gauge and give false hope. you have to see through the paper and count at speed.
I attended the opening of Postal Votes fot the Norwich North By election in July 2009 on behalf of Craig Murray.From my observations I was able to correctly predict the % vote shares of each of the main parties to within 0.5%. In particular, I predicted that UKIP would beat the Greens - which surprised a lot of people at the time! The only vote share I was a bit out on was the BNP - who managed circa 2.5% rather than the 1% I had suggested from my tallying.
but of course, you didn't tell anyone, because it is illegal?
Call me jaded, but it all seems pretty lame stuff, even if I do think the MSM are biased against the GOP.
There's 119 hours released just today - he's already taken two big scalps from DNC and three arrested before today.
I'd take this pretty seriously if I was a media man right now
He has a long track record of making unfair edits that misrepresent the circumstances and having to issue apologies or settle, the whole ACORN fiasco just after Obama was elected started with him if I recall... and cost him $100,000 to settle when he got rumbled.
What would Theresa May's ideal scenario be tonight? A win in Copeland and a close second in Stoke?
Win both, pull a fully formed brexit plan / Theresa Maynifesto out of her back pocket tomorrow, call an election with a promise to immediately trigger A50 - conditional on a Con Majority.
It would kill labour, kill UKIP and set up the pro-EU LD's as her opposition for the next parliament.
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Would that be an indication they have given up hope?
No, simply a measure of priority. The thought is that it's more important to put all your resource into knocking up friends than it is to know the result in advance - only one actually gets you any more votes.
Personally I prefer to tell if I have the resource, but for an additional reason. Apparently up to 1 in 6 voters make up their mind inside the polling booth, and having a friendly face with a party badge at the entrance doesn't do any harm. We telled (what is the past tense of 'to tell'?) at one polling station in nine in my ward last May, so it got knocked up in the evening, and although we picked it due to strength, it was our best by miles. How much of that is between factors of underlying strength / smart knocking up / impact of seeing a teller at the polling station I can only conjecture.
Yes. It's a poor show if you can't rally up a couple of dozen older supporters to take names. It doesn't preclude the other stuff, and come six pm when you are knocking up its useful to have half of your voters already crossed off..
It does seem very odd indeed for a party that claims to have a good GOTV machine. In the US, they measure the turnout almost by the hour targeted by post code, and send the volunteers around to the locations where the vote has not shown up. Can't do that without the data during the course of the day.
Yes, we still collect turnout information from the polling station, but not the stuff about "George Smith of 117 Acacia Road has voted" - it's mildly useful in the early hours, but when most people vote around 6 the data comes into the system too slowoly to be worthwhile, and tempts activists to try to perfect their data instead of getting out there.
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Of course there will also be information circulating already as to how the postal votes have gone!
there will be, although that can be hard to gauge and give false hope. you have to see through the paper and count at speed.
I attended the opening of Postal Votes fot the Norwich North By election in July 2009 on behalf of Craig Murray.From my observations I was able to correctly predict the % vote shares of each of the main parties to within 0.5%. In particular, I predicted that UKIP would beat the Greens - which surprised a lot of people at the time! The only vote share I was a bit out on was the BNP - who managed circa 2.5% rather than the 1% I had suggested from my tallying.
but of course, you didn't tell anyone, because it is illegal?
fellow campaign workers. I suppose I could have popped down to Ladbrokes !
For the last forty or so years, Intel have been a dominant force in the chip industry with their x86 range. They've been challenged by upstart competitor AMD, who took a rather significant x86 market share off Chipzilla about ten to fifteen years ago.
However Intel fought back, and AMD consistently lagged behind the behemoth. However Intel are having significant problems moving onto their new 10-nanomemtre process, and yesterday AMD launched their new architecture, Ryzen. This is only slightly lower than Intel's fastest x86 offering, but under half the price.
Interesting times in the tech world. As performance gains by shrinking the process become harder and much more expensive, it pays to be clever.
Time will show whether AMD have really done this, or if it's all smoke and mirrors.
(I have no connection with either AMD or Intel)
8 cores and 16 threads at 3.6 GHZ for less than £400, that is pretty damn good (the nearest intel offering is £1,100). The release date is next week so I doubt someone is trying a smoke and mirrors strategy at this stage. So maybe AMD is really about to take the crown.
Wasn't AMD sold to the Japanese recently? If so all the IP and all the future profits have already gone off-shore.
It looks a sweet chip. I'm waiting for a teardown of how they've done it.
I think you're thinking of ARM's takeover by Softbank. Profitable for me and many friends, but the end of an era.
You are quite right , Mr. J, I am confusing my ARM with my AMD - age you know.
It looks like I am going to be up your way on the week-end of 27-28th May, might you be around for a lunch or even an early evening drinkie?
For the last forty or so years, Intel have been a dominant force in the chip industry with their x86 range. They've been challenged by upstart competitor AMD, who took a rather significant x86 market share off Chipzilla about ten to fifteen years ago.
However Intel fought back, and AMD consistently lagged behind the behemoth. However Intel are having significant problems moving onto their new 10-nanomemtre process, and yesterday AMD launched their new architecture, Ryzen. This is only slightly lower than Intel's fastest x86 offering, but under half the price.
Interesting times in the tech world. As performance gains by shrinking the process become harder and much more expensive, it pays to be clever.
Time will show whether AMD have really done this, or if it's all smoke and mirrors.
(I have no connection with either AMD or Intel)
8 cores and 16 threads at 3.6 GHZ for less than £400, that is pretty damn good (the nearest intel offering is £1,100). The release date is next week so I doubt someone is trying a smoke and mirrors strategy at this stage. So maybe AMD is really about to take the crown.
Wasn't AMD sold to the Japanese recently? If so all the IP and all the future profits have already gone off-shore.
It looks a sweet chip. I'm waiting for a teardown of how they've done it.
I think you're thinking of ARM's takeover by Softbank. Profitable for me and many friends, but the end of an era.
AMD are still a serious player in the graphics card market, it's entirely possible there has been lots of spin off technology from their research and development efforts there that they can use in the CPUs.
Call me jaded, but it all seems pretty lame stuff, even if I do think the MSM are biased against the GOP.
There are almost certainly biases in everything published but there was nothing in those recordings at all to raise alarms. It was similar yesterday with the anti semitism article being an internal plot within the Democrats with regard to their own internal elections. Might be true, but no evidence was given and it was quite a conspiracy theory. Surely in a two party system the left and right are going to get support from some on the extremes whose views they may not agree with. Trump has support from the alt right who have some interesting views. It is what you would expect and it is something he does or does not deal with.
Occam's razor generally rules and these links are just nonsense without some evidence. It is a bit like a cult. Followers believe anything put in front of them from their leaders no matter how contrived.
What would Theresa May's ideal scenario be tonight? A win in Copeland and a close second in Stoke?
Win both, pull a fully formed brexit plan / Theresa Maynifesto out of her back pocket tomorrow, call an election with a promise to immediately trigger A50 - conditional on a Con Majority.
It would kill labour, kill UKIP and set up the pro-EU LD's as her opposition for the next parliament.
Ah.
My mistake - I'd forgotten all about that fully formed brexit plan!
Labour are not doing any polling station telling for the Copeland by election. That means they literally have no idea how the day is going. They have no means to measure whether their vote is coming out or not so are running it blind.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
Of course there will also be information circulating already as to how the postal votes have gone!
there will be, although that can be hard to gauge and give false hope. you have to see through the paper and count at speed.
I attended the opening of Postal Votes fot the Norwich North By election in July 2009 on behalf of Craig Murray.From my observations I was able to correctly predict the % vote shares of each of the main parties to within 0.5%. In particular, I predicted that UKIP would beat the Greens - which surprised a lot of people at the time! The only vote share I was a bit out on was the BNP - who managed circa 2.5% rather than the 1% I had suggested from my tallying.
but of course, you didn't tell anyone, because it is illegal?
fellow campaign workers. I suppose I could have popped down to Ladbrokes !
That Labour will be out of power until the year 4000. I don't buy it myself, but I've put a few quid on
Or more probably the idea the Tories will win Copeland by 4000. I don't buy that one either.
In a low turnout vote the governing party taking a seat from the official opposition by 4,000 would be among the biggest by-election sensations in history. It would indicate a Tory majority at the next GE of over 150 and would probably spell the end of Corbyn whatever happens in Stoke.
Could someone be starting a rumour to deliberately shift the betting odds?
Both the Tories and the Lib Dems do have a bit of a vested interest, but the Lib Dem canvass estimates in Richmond were a very very good indicator and their interest was somewhat more vested than most there.
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My prediction
12,000 con
11,500 lab
https://www.facebook.com/hansonforcopeland/?fref=ts
It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season.
You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
(Note - this is only the 18 years of their cabinets proper and excludes Thatcher's shadow cabinet 1975-9 and Major's brief one in 1997).
EDIT: It is very easy to grasp at straws in the absence of real data.
https://youtu.be/xf-0_dFnl-Y
PBers have known many people.
I just seem to have known a few more rogues than most over the years.
Although I guess Sean T would probably lead the way in having known some dodgy geezers.
https://twitter.com/BenChu_/status/834778157123244033
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O'Keefe
If they're doing badly enough to come 2nd (It doesn't look like that, but bear with me) then the chance they're doing badly enough to come 3rd is there too (Due to the quite close two second place horses).
Copeland was always a reasonably close two horse race (UKIP a very distant third in 2015) so the analysis is different there.
I say this as a broad Labour backer in Stoke too.
Would not expect it to be based on any inside information though.
By polling day it had become clear that the killer was not a mainstream Brexiteer but a complete nutcase and the public again felt comfortable sticking with their original choice. However it came too late to be reflected in the final polls.
In the case of Trump, national polls which just had voting intention headline numbers did show him well behind, but there were some polls in the crucial marginal states that he needed to win. showing them neck and neck and Trump ahead by 1 or 2%.
The Conservatives winning a majority in 2015 wasn't picked up in any poll and was probably caused by don't knows making up their minds at the last minute.
The conservatives will be able to project how they think things are going, whether that gets out to journalists is another matter, but labour have no idea, any claims otherwise are entirely conjecture. When the boxes are emptied tonight will be their first piece of knowledge as to how it went.
In the who has known most crooks stakes, I would put SeanT well down the list. Anyone who has worked in the City for any length of time is probably leading him by a length and a half and those that have worked in merchant banking are so far clear of the field that they are could probably have a competition amongst themselves. The supposedly stale area of insurance is not immune either. I know of one chap, who might still be alive so I am not going to name him, having been thrown out of Lloyds for corrupt and improper practice used to do deals out of his Rolls Royce parked around the corner.
For the last forty or so years, Intel have been a dominant force in the chip industry with their x86 range. They've been challenged by upstart competitor AMD, who took a rather significant x86 market share off Chipzilla about ten to fifteen years ago.
However Intel fought back, and AMD consistently lagged behind the behemoth. However Intel are having significant problems moving onto their new 10-nanomemtre process, and yesterday AMD launched their new architecture, Ryzen. This is only slightly lower than Intel's fastest x86 offering, but under half the price.
Interesting times in the tech world. As performance gains by shrinking the process become harder and much more expensive, it pays to be clever.
Time will show whether AMD have really done this, or if it's all smoke and mirrors.
(I have no connection with either AMD or Intel)
Still vividly recall the subtle shift over the first hour or two once the polls closed after the referendum. The smug complacency of a 10 point lead for Remain evaporated, and the financial chaps who had commissioned exit polls suddenly realised there was a reason there wasn't an official one.
Tory activist in know, who is in Copeland, saying all those who said they will vote Tory are coming out to vote.
DYOR DYOR but Stoke Labour, Copeland, perhaps Tory.
Seems odd but it is the way they do things.
I wonder how close the Tories get in Stoke if it is ? Must be in with a sniff there.
Personally I prefer to tell if I have the resource, but for an additional reason. Apparently up to 1 in 6 voters make up their mind inside the polling booth, and having a friendly face with a party badge at the entrance doesn't do any harm. We telled (what is the past tense of 'to tell'?) at one polling station in nine in my ward last May, so it got knocked up in the evening, and although we picked it due to strength, it was our best by miles. How much of that is between factors of underlying strength / smart knocking up / impact of seeing a teller at the polling station I can only conjecture.
Wasn't AMD sold to the Japanese recently? If so all the IP and all the future profits have already gone off-shore.
https://youtu.be/xf-0_dFnl-Y There's 119 hours released just today - he's already taken two big scalps from DNC and three arrested before today.
I'd take this pretty seriously if I was a media man right now
I think you're thinking of ARM's takeover by Softbank. Profitable for me and many friends, but the end of an era.
You are displaying far too much expertise as an innocent,
It would kill labour, kill UKIP and set up the pro-EU LD's as her opposition for the next parliament.
Yes. It's a poor show if you can't rally up a couple of dozen older supporters to take names. It doesn't preclude the other stuff, and come six pm when you are knocking up its useful to have half of your voters already crossed off..
In my patch, the other parties do the same.
I suppose I could have popped down to Ladbrokes !
It looks like I am going to be up your way on the week-end of 27-28th May, might you be around for a lunch or even an early evening drinkie?
Or more probably the idea the Tories will win Copeland by 4000. I don't buy that one either.
Occam's razor generally rules and these links are just nonsense without some evidence. It is a bit like a cult. Followers believe anything put in front of them from their leaders no matter how contrived.
My mistake - I'd forgotten all about that fully formed brexit plan!
https://www.ft.com/content/f41e1dc4-ef83-11e6-ba01-119a44939bb6
Remember UKIP were useless in Oldham West & Royton most recently where they were expected to challenge.