If true and Fillon withdraws that would probably see Juppe become LR candidate which would eat into Macron's vote and leave the nationalist right to Le Pen
Guess Juppe COULD be persuaded, "for the sake of the Party and the nation", but he stated several times that he would not be a replacement, saying that he did not wish to open up his family to the kind of pressures that Fillon's family had been subjected to.
Juppe disqualified from office for fraud, makes a comeback. Will be interesting to see if anything else unsavoury about him suddenly appears.
But this is worse than it looks, because as a matter of fact the USA could stop the norks doing just that, by the threat or actuality of all out war with or without nukes. So what's stopping me? is what Don will be thinking when this point occurs to him. Never mind the start of modern history, we should be debating whether today marks the beginning of the end of it.
Please don't put Clive Lewis out of his misery just yet! Former BBC East colleagues have saved-up so many juicy stories that would keep us entertained for months.
There's an old adage - 'be nice to people on the way up so they can be kind on the way down.'
Sadly for him, it's not a lesson Lewis learned when he was taken off local news front-of-camera reporting when he declared for Labour - it just wasn't compatible with the BBC's 'impartial' status.
When he was transferred to the geeky back office whilst retaining his presenter salary, he didn't endear himself to local colleagues by working to rule and thinking that making the tea every now and then was beneath him.... whilst trousering double wages.
These jouralistic types have long memories. Oh yes.
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Please don't put Clive Lewis out of his misery just yet! Former BBC East colleagues have saved-up so many juicy stories that would keep us entertained for months.
There's an old adage - 'be nice to people on the way up so they can be kind on the way down.'
Sadly for him, it's not a lesson Lewis learned when he was taken off local news front-of-camera reporting when he declared for Labour - it just wasn't compatible with the BBC's 'impartial' status.
When he was transferred to the geeky back office whilst retaining his presenter salary, he didn't endear himself to local colleagues by working to rule and thinking that making the tea every now and then was beneath him.... whilst trousering double wages.
These jouralistic types have long memories. Oh yes.
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Interesting, cheers! Very useful for betting, keep it coming
Can't say I've come across 'norks' before. Classy.
Donald Trump is such a tit even on rare occasions he might make a decent point I have an inclination to disregard it. And I voted Leave, so I cannot be a metropolitan liberal.
I lived with an Aussie for four years who used to refer to her bras as Norkholders. My wife has been known to refer to them as Boulder-holders. Or, if she's going for a run, armoured boulder-holders.
Ah yes I was forgetting that the Punic Wars are still being debated in your house.
I think Morris was distinguishing the modern from the medieval. The date exact date of crossover is disputed, but I've always liked 1649.
1689 is more significant. Power passed irrevocably from monarch to parliament at that point.
I see your point but the Medieval period was over a long way before 1689. Dividing up history into chunks is a convenience for historians but inasmuch as it has value I would put the date as 1536.
That was the year when it was shown that the power of the Papacy could be ignored and ushered in a new style of thinking in which the Church did not predominate and which in due course led to 1689, the enlightenment and the industrial revolution.
The old dividing line of 1485 that I was taught at school was, I think, just a hangover from Tudor propoganda.
1517. Luther and the start of the Reformation.
But was the Reformation more important than the Renaissance as a dividing line ?
1492 Granada and the New World 1453 Castillon and Constantinople
But this is worse than it looks, because as a matter of fact the USA could stop the norks doing just that, by the threat or actuality of all out war with or without nukes. So what's stopping me? is what Don will be thinking when this point occurs to him. Never mind the start of modern history, we should be debating whether today marks the beginning of the end of it.
That's a good point: what does he think they can, or should, do to prevent the North Koreans from launching missiles? There seem to be several possible approaches:
*) Diplomacy (either with the NK's directly or through the Chinese). This has not worked so far. *) Military - e.g. bombing of sites (and that won't end well without Chinese agreement). *) Stand-off attack of missiles (think Air Borne Laser successor or equivalent).
The last of these seem to be the one that would appeal most to him, and it would help the US hone their ABM skills. Unfortunately the Chinese and Russians may not be happy.
Evolution is only a "Theory" in the scientific sense. <</p>
I would bet many scientists now wish there was a different word that could have been used, given how often the intractable regard the word theory as the colloquial 'I have a theory' eg 'I have a guess'.
Things like this always happen when specialist terminology gets appropriated by muggles non-specialists
The Speaker of the House of Commons has become involved in a fresh row about political bias after he admitted voting to stay in the European Union and said immigration into Britain was a good thing.
Parliamentary rules state: “The Speaker is the chief officer and highest authority of the House of Commons and must remain politically impartial at all times … therefore, on election the new Speaker must resign from their political party and remain separate from political issues even in retirement.”
It is a lovely number; it is 4 squared followed by 7 squared, and its prime factors are 17 and 97, giving us the date of the battle of Cape St Vincent. Primeness is overrated.
edit:vanilla doesn't do tags.
Primes are the root of all numbers. 1681 would be a better date, it is 41 squared. 41 is prime and also appears in the prime generating quadratic n^2 - n + 41 which generates primes for n=1..40.
Also 1681 was the expiry of the Exclusion Bill to prevent James, Duke of York (a converted catholic) from becoming king.
An excellent post, Mrs C! Combining as it does obscure knowledge with solid fact, it is within the highest traditions of PB (just needed a touch of pedantry to have hit the highest award level).
But this is worse than it looks, because as a matter of fact the USA could stop the norks doing just that, by the threat or actuality of all out war with or without nukes. So what's stopping me? is what Don will be thinking when this point occurs to him. Never mind the start of modern history, we should be debating whether today marks the beginning of the end of it.
That's a good point: what does he think they can, or should, do to prevent the North Koreans from launching missiles? There seem to be several possible approaches:
*) Diplomacy (either with the NK's directly or through the Chinese). This has not worked so far. *) Military - e.g. bombing of sites (and that won't end well without Chinese agreement). *) Stand-off attack of missiles (think Air Borne Laser successor or equivalent).
The last of these seem to be the one that would appeal most to him, and it would help the US hone their ABM skills. Unfortunately the Chinese and Russians may not be happy.
This is probably grist to Trump's mill of increasing spending on missile defense, and essentially restarting the SDI program.
If true and Fillon withdraws that would probably see Juppe become LR candidate which would eat into Macron's vote and leave the nationalist right to Le Pen
Anyone know what the process would be? Would they rerun the primary? With new candidates.
I have a hefty book on this now, mostly green, except for black swan characters emerging via a new primary. Getting nervous...
There is unlikely to be time to orgnaise another Primary before March 13th, which is the closing dates for candidates. And even if they WERE to squeeze in another primary within a month, it would mean that Le Pen and Macron get a full month campaigning time under their belts. It would probably have to be an appointed replacement.
Le Pen would love Juppe to be the appointed LR candidate without a vote given he lost the primary to Fillon. She could then make further inroads into former Fillon voters
But this is worse than it looks, because as a matter of fact the USA could stop the norks doing just that, by the threat or actuality of all out war with or without nukes. So what's stopping me? is what Don will be thinking when this point occurs to him. Never mind the start of modern history, we should be debating whether today marks the beginning of the end of it.
That's a good point: what does he think they can, or should, do to prevent the North Koreans from launching missiles? There seem to be several possible approaches:
*) Diplomacy (either with the NK's directly or through the Chinese). This has not worked so far. *) Military - e.g. bombing of sites (and that won't end well without Chinese agreement). *) Stand-off attack of missiles (think Air Borne Laser successor or equivalent).
The last of these seem to be the one that would appeal most to him, and it would help the US hone their ABM skills. Unfortunately the Chinese and Russians may not be happy.
This is probably grist to Trump's mill of increasing spending on missile defense, and essentially restarting the SDI program.
Did the SDI program ever really end? It got renamed a couple of times, and a few of the more (ahem) futuristic schemes dropped (e.g. space-borne lasers) (*). But the research itself hasn't really stopped.
(*) Or were they? What's the X-37 carrying during it's year+ long mission in space?
I think Rebecca Long Bailey was excellent in that Brillo interview, and she dealt with him as well as anyone. I don't share the politics, but it is snobbery of the most disgusting variety to suggest she isn't suitable just because she has a northern accent. She looks credible to me for sure, unless you'd only be happy with a white southern male over the age of 50. If that is the case then you should just come out and say it.
I think Rebecca Long Bailey was excellent in that Brillo interview, and she dealt with him as well as anyone. I don't share the politics, but it is snobbery of the most disgusting variety to suggest she isn't suitable just because she has a northern accent. She looks credible to me for sure, unless you'd only be happy with a white southern male over the age of 50. If that is the case then you should just come out and say it.
A politician should not be written off just because of one or two poor interviews. However we're not seeing much defence of her either, especially in the form of *good* interviews to counter the bad.
In the absence of game changer like Trudeau, Labour need someone competent, likeable and credible. John Smith.
Though without the leprosy of Jockishness..
That's actually a good point, joking aside. I wonder if that does ever rear its head in discussions about potential party leaders, given the direction of travel of the Union?
Not many to pick from nowadays, their single MP does not even rate donkey status.
I think Rebecca Long Bailey was excellent in that Brillo interview, and she dealt with him as well as anyone. I don't share the politics, but it is snobbery of the most disgusting variety to suggest she isn't suitable just because she has a northern accent. She looks credible to me for sure, unless you'd only be happy with a white southern male over the age of 50. If that is the case then you should just come out and say it.
A politician should not be written off just because of one or two poor interviews. However we're not seeing much defence of her either, especially in the form of *good* interviews to counter the bad.
I honestly don't see what was poor about her interview with Andrew Neil.
I think Rebecca Long Bailey was excellent in that Brillo interview, and she dealt with him as well as anyone. I don't share the politics, but it is snobbery of the most disgusting variety to suggest she isn't suitable just because she has a northern accent. She looks credible to me for sure, unless you'd only be happy with a white southern male over the age of 50. If that is the case then you should just come out and say it.
A politician should not be written off just because of one or two poor interviews. However we're not seeing much defence of her either, especially in the form of *good* interviews to counter the bad.
I honestly don't see what was poor about her interview with Andrew Neil.
She failed to respond in Hampshire boarding school RP. She wore too bright a lipstick and her hair was very obviously blonde and 'done'. Duh!
Gabby Logan is an excellent rugby commentator. Her knowledge and love of the game shines through. If only Rebecca Long Bailey had a bit of the authority passion and elegance of Gabby she'd be a shoo-in
I am a Labour party member since 1979 with a gap of 4 years, 2003 - 2007. I would not be able to recognise Angela Raynor or Rebecca Bailey-Long if they walked past me. What were the don't knows like in the focus group ?
No surprise there. Kuenssberg's anti Corbyn views are for all to see. I think she thinks that Corbyn won't last long, therefore she is prepared to do a hatchet job on him.
The Speaker of the House of Commons has become involved in a fresh row about political bias after he admitted voting to stay in the European Union and said immigration into Britain was a good thing.
Parliamentary rules state: “The Speaker is the chief officer and highest authority of the House of Commons and must remain politically impartial at all times … therefore, on election the new Speaker must resign from their political party and remain separate from political issues even in retirement.”
He is turning out to be a great Speaker, not just a good Speaker.
Strong defense of Bercow from Salmond on Sunday Politics Scotland. He says the Speaker carries overwhelming support across the chamber compared to a mere handful who would like to see him gone.
Those are not the only two options available here. Salmond is clever enough to know that, I am sure.
I thought Trump was more a pu**y man than a breast man.
More seriously, I have never heard of that description for North Koreans....I am going to guess it probably belongs in the same bucket as some similar racist terms to describe the likes of the Japanese.
NORth Koreans seems like a perfectly good contraction for brevity in military briefing and report-writing.
Why do some people reach for "racism" by default? It's just a SJW comfort blanket.
Strong defense of Bercow from Salmond on Sunday Politics Scotland. He says the Speaker carries overwhelming support across the chamber compared to a mere handful who would like to see him gone.
What could Salmond possibly have in common with a grandstanding, virtue signalling, publicity seeking, self important, solipsistic, egotistical, preening, pretentious, puffed up, postulating pompous little pixie in love with the sound of his own voice with a long running opposition to free speech, sensible debate and proper analysis?
I think Rebecca Long Bailey was excellent in that Brillo interview, and she dealt with him as well as anyone. I don't share the politics, but it is snobbery of the most disgusting variety to suggest she isn't suitable just because she has a northern accent. She looks credible to me for sure, unless you'd only be happy with a white southern male over the age of 50. If that is the case then you should just come out and say it.
A politician should not be written off just because of one or two poor interviews. However we're not seeing much defence of her either, especially in the form of *good* interviews to counter the bad.
I honestly don't see what was poor about her interview with Andrew Neil.
Just watched it - a fair spattering of politician waffle but hardly a disaster. I've seen much, much worse.
Please don't put Clive Lewis out of his misery just yet! Former BBC East colleagues have saved-up so many juicy stories that would keep us entertained for months.
There's an old adage - 'be nice to people on the way up so they can be kind on the way down.'
Sadly for him, it's not a lesson Lewis learned when he was taken off local news front-of-camera reporting when he declared for Labour - it just wasn't compatible with the BBC's 'impartial' status.
When he was transferred to the geeky back office whilst retaining his presenter salary, he didn't endear himself to local colleagues by working to rule and thinking that making the tea every now and then was beneath him.... whilst trousering double wages.
These jouralistic types have long memories. Oh yes.
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Strong defense of Bercow from Salmond on Sunday Politics Scotland. He says the Speaker carries overwhelming support across the chamber compared to a mere handful who would like to see him gone.
What could Salmond possibly have in common with a grandstanding, virtue signalling, publicity seeking, self important, solipsistic, egotistical, preening, pretentious, puffed up, postulating pompous little pixie in love with the sound of his own voice with a long running opposition to free speech, sensible debate and proper analysis?
I don't share the politics, but it is snobbery of the most disgusting variety to suggest she isn't suitable just because she has a northern accent.
While I don't mind the northern accent myself, I think you'll find very few of those who do who were suggesting she wasn't suitable just because of her accent alone.
If true and Fillon withdraws that would probably see Juppe become LR candidate which would eat into Macron's vote and leave the nationalist right to Le Pen
Anyone know what the process would be? Would they rerun the primary? With new candidates.
I have a hefty book on this now, mostly green, except for black swan characters emerging via a new primary. Getting nervous...
There is unlikely to be time to orgnaise another Primary before March 13th, which is the closing dates for candidates. And even if they WERE to squeeze in another primary within a month, it would mean that Le Pen and Macron get a full month campaigning time under their belts. It would probably have to be an appointed replacement.
Le Pen would love Juppe to be the appointed LR candidate without a vote given he lost the primary to Fillon. She could then make further inroads into former Fillon voters
The last Ifop poll from November with Juppe and Le Pen and Macron had it Le Pen 30% Juppe 26% Macron 14%, even then Fillon polled relatively lower, with Fillon it was Le Pen 29% Fillon 20% Macron 15%. So if Fillon is forced to withdraw and the LR do nominate Juppe now without a second primary it would likely be a Le Pen v Juppe runoff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017
I thought Trump was more a pu**y man than a breast man.
More seriously, I have never heard of that description for North Koreans....I am going to guess it probably belongs in the same bucket as some similar racist terms to describe the likes of the Japanese.
NORth Koreans seems like a perfectly good contraction for brevity in military briefing and report-writing.
Why do some people reach for "racism" by default? It's just a SJW comfort blanket.
Lib Dems has over a 100 volunteers yesterday at Stoke Central. Local BBC TV showing an interest in them and had their candidate on TV this morning. Popped in there HQ this morning plenty of personnel and activity, reckon they've dropped 20,000 odd leaflets this weekend slagging off the other parties over the NHS, highlighting their candidate a Doctor at the local Hospital. Is it moving from they've no chance, to they might do quite well, to they could win, to they will win. They seem to have momentum. People have complained they are getting leaflet after leaflet from the party but what they have done is to insure people know the party is standing and who the candidate is, he has the advantage of being number 1 or 2 on the ballot paper and is completely local. Things are moving in Stoke.
Are you the same chap who wrote from Oldham West ?
Gareth Snell My half Muslim girlfriend angry to suggest all Muslim who follow Allah want to kill Jews. #bbcqt
How can you be half Muslim (or any other religion) ?
One parent from a Muslim community, the other from something else. Not uncommon, I would think, in the West Midlands. Simply shorthand for ‘my girl-friend, whose Dad/Mum is Muslim says....’
Just because he’s Labour some her will find any stick with which to beat him.
Please don't put Clive Lewis out of his misery just yet! Former BBC East colleagues have saved-up so many juicy stories that would keep us entertained for months.
There's an old adage - 'be nice to people on the way up so they can be kind on the way down.'
Sadly for him, it's not a lesson Lewis learned when he was taken off local news front-of-camera reporting when he declared for Labour - it just wasn't compatible with the BBC's 'impartial' status.
When he was transferred to the geeky back office whilst retaining his presenter salary, he didn't endear himself to local colleagues by working to rule and thinking that making the tea every now and then was beneath him.... whilst trousering double wages.
These jouralistic types have long memories. Oh yes.
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So this arsehole has returned to PB.
Bunnco - your self-important Tory spinner on the spot.
Corbyn dislike transcends left and right, to some degree at least.
Everybody is anti-Corbyn except Morning Star and Press TV. Corbyn absolutely hates some of the leading Guardian writers (from the footage in Vice doc), and they definitely aren't very keen on him either.
As always with the BBC, they have a particular world view. It isn't Labour or Tory, it is centre left metropolitan liberal. Postman Pat got massive grief from them when he dared to sack Professor Nutt(y) over his drug claims
Gareth Snell My half Muslim girlfriend angry to suggest all Muslim who follow Allah want to kill Jews. #bbcqt
How can you be half Muslim (or any other religion) ?
One parent from a Muslim community, the other from something else. Not uncommon, I would think, in the West Midlands. Simply shorthand for ‘my girl-friend, whose Dad/Mum is Muslim says....’
Just because he’s Labour some her will find any stick with which to beat him.
That is true, nevertheless, as shorthand it is not very good, because it is misleading even if used in the exact context you have interpreted it, which I presume was his intention. It makes it sound like the subject is half a muslim somehow. Not a huge deal, wording was not great, but perhaps if space was an issue in a tweet go with GF so he be clearer with the muslim parent.
I don't share the politics, but it is snobbery of the most disgusting variety to suggest she isn't suitable just because she has a northern accent.
While I don't mind the northern accent myself, I think you'll find very few of those who do who were suggesting she wasn't suitable just because of her accent alone.
Being under 40 and female seemed to be the other complaints.
I thought Trump was more a pu**y man than a breast man.
More seriously, I have never heard of that description for North Koreans....I am going to guess it probably belongs in the same bucket as some similar racist terms to describe the likes of the Japanese.
NORth Koreans seems like a perfectly good contraction for brevity in military briefing and report-writing.
Why do some people reach for "racism" by default? It's just a SJW comfort blanket.
PRK is the proper "contraction".
PRK for "North Koreans" as a population? I don't see how that works.
Gareth Snell My half Muslim girlfriend angry to suggest all Muslim who follow Allah want to kill Jews. #bbcqt
How can you be half Muslim (or any other religion) ?
One parent from a Muslim community, the other from something else. Not uncommon, I would think, in the West Midlands. Simply shorthand for ‘my girl-friend, whose Dad/Mum is Muslim says....’
Just because he’s Labour some her will find any stick with which to beat him.
Twaddle - I'm not half-atheist because my mother decided to be one, it was a stupid argument from Snell that just adds to his potty mouth embarrassments.
I don't share the politics, but it is snobbery of the most disgusting variety to suggest she isn't suitable just because she has a northern accent.
While I don't mind the northern accent myself, I think you'll find very few of those who do who were suggesting she wasn't suitable just because of her accent alone.
Being under 40 and female seemed to be the other complaints.
Under 40 = inexperienced, is a legitimate potential criticism (though as pointed out, some young leaders have done well). The female 'criticism' is obviously not valid. But you've left out the many comments that she was crap. That might be right or wrong, I agree with others judging by a few poor interviews is not enough, but it's all very well to say others are wrong that she will be awful, or that the criticism is including several nonsense or sexist parts, but you cannot pretend people did not raise legitimate concerns as well (eg experience and ability).
Gareth Snell My half Muslim girlfriend angry to suggest all Muslim who follow Allah want to kill Jews. #bbcqt
How can you be half Muslim (or any other religion) ?
One parent from a Muslim community, the other from something else. Not uncommon, I would think, in the West Midlands. Simply shorthand for ‘my girl-friend, whose Dad/Mum is Muslim says....’
Just because he’s Labour some her will find any stick with which to beat him.
I am not going to beat him up over this, he has said loads of proper daft stuff. But you can't be half a religion.
Corbyn dislike transcends left and right, to some degree at least.
I do not think it is dislike from open minded people.I have heard many comments saying he is not up to the job but no hatred how he conducts himself.One example is there was such an outcry when he did not wear a tie on the politics shows.Now it is common for politicians to do the same.
I have a dispute that I have sent to IBAS,, it has been nearly 3 months and I still haven't heard!
I went into the Bookies to back Ricardo Quaresma to score first, £100 at 10/1 and £100 anytime at 4/1
The cashier phoned the bet and said the first goal price was now 17/2, but anytime was still 4/1, so I had £25 on first goal and £175 anytime
He scored the 5th goal of the game, but when I went to collect they said it should have been 3/1 and only offered £700 instead of £875.
I said if I had known it was 3/1 I wouldn't have had as much on, but if it had lost I would never have known I was on at the wrong price. Why stop at 3/1? They could have said it was 1/10!!
Hmm .... that rather sounds as if the bookie in question mixed up decimal odds of 4.0 with old money odds of 4/1. No palp there, simply an error on their part and they should pay up. The 100/1 odds originally quoted however was clearly a palp and having subsequently reduced their price to 17/2, that sounds as if the correct original price should probably have been 10/1. Incidentally, as a matter of interest, does one have to pay a fee to get IBAS involved, win or lose? If I were you I'd be concerned by the 3 month delay .... did they at least issue you with an acknowledgement confirming their receipt of your complaint?
Yeah it was 10/1 originally not 100/1. Oddschecker prices were 10/1 and 4/1
I have receipt from IBAS and phoned to confirm they were on the case.. they said it might take a while, I have no idea why it should really. I phoned the bookies customer service, and even they agreed they should pay!
IBAS is free
All - thanks for your advice. I suspect it might be a palp, but I'll investigate IBAS nonetheless. Maybe a lesson learned and happily, close to the end of the month, not such an expensive one.
Gareth Snell My half Muslim girlfriend angry to suggest all Muslim who follow Allah want to kill Jews. #bbcqt
How can you be half Muslim (or any other religion) ?
One parent from a Muslim community, the other from something else. Not uncommon, I would think, in the West Midlands. Simply shorthand for ‘my girl-friend, whose Dad/Mum is Muslim says....’
Just because he’s Labour some her will find any stick with which to beat him.
If it had been a member of any other party describing an ethnic minority as "half" one thing or another the PC freaks would be wetting themselves and crying
In fairness, Nutt was sacked for making statements based on science. He said horse riding was more dangerous than taking ecstasy, which is clearly true. E is a very safe drug. Nutt said alcohol and nicotine were far more dangerous than E, which is again simply stating the truth.
In fairness, Nutt was sacked for making statements based on science. He said horse riding was more dangerous than taking ecstasy, which is clearly true. E is a very safe drug. Nutt said alcohol and nicotine were far more dangerous than E, which is again simply stating the truth.
I actually met him and I don't personally have an issue with what he said. My point was that Postman Pat got the most soft soapy of soft soapy treatment from the BBC before that (and since). This one issue set them off on him compared to say having no clue at all about economics.
Corbyn dislike transcends left and right, to some degree at least.
I do not think it is dislike from open minded people.I have heard many comments saying he is not up to the job but no hatred how he conducts himself.
I was talking about dislike of his politics as well, which is the third strand there, it isn't just about whether he's up to the job or his conduct.
Many say he is not up to the job but may like him as a person and his politics. Some few may think him up to the job, like his politics and think like him as a man. Others don't think he'd up to the job, don't like his politics but think as a person he is ok.
You're right that few will dislike him as a person, in addition to disliking his politics and thinking he'd not up to the job. But that doesn't mean they don't dislike him, or that they are being closed minded if they do. I dislike him as a leader, but outside the occasional outburst which everyone has now and then, he seems like a pleasant, agreeable sort.
Dislike is also not the same as hatred. Hatred of a political opponent in a system like ours is rarely justified. Dislike is much milder and perfectly acceptable. Someone hating Labour or the Tories is an idiot, in my view, but dislike, even strong dislike of their ideological positioning (such that it exists)? Sure.
I thought Trump was more a pu**y man than a breast man.
More seriously, I have never heard of that description for North Koreans....I am going to guess it probably belongs in the same bucket as some similar racist terms to describe the likes of the Japanese.
NORth Koreans seems like a perfectly good contraction for brevity in military briefing and report-writing.
Why do some people reach for "racism" by default? It's just a SJW comfort blanket.
PRK is the proper "contraction".
Norks is quite a common usage in US defence circles.
I thought Trump was more a pu**y man than a breast man.
More seriously, I have never heard of that description for North Koreans....I am going to guess it probably belongs in the same bucket as some similar racist terms to describe the likes of the Japanese.
NORth Koreans seems like a perfectly good contraction for brevity in military briefing and report-writing.
Why do some people reach for "racism" by default? It's just a SJW comfort blanket.
PRK is the proper "contraction".
Norks is quite a common usage in US defence circles.
Fair enough....the Madonna with the big boobies it is when it comes to talking about North Korea.
In fairness, Nutt was sacked for making statements based on science. He said horse riding was more dangerous than taking ecstasy, which is clearly true. E is a very safe drug. Nutt said alcohol and nicotine were far more dangerous than E, which is again simply stating the truth.
I actually met him and I don't personally have an issue with what he said. My point was that Postman Pat got the most soft soapy of soft soapy treatment from the BBC before that (and since). This one issue set them off on him compared to say having no clue at all about economics.
Gareth Snell My half Muslim girlfriend angry to suggest all Muslim who follow Allah want to kill Jews. #bbcqt
How can you be half Muslim (or any other religion) ?
One parent from a Muslim community, the other from something else. Not uncommon, I would think, in the West Midlands. Simply shorthand for ‘my girl-friend, whose Dad/Mum is Muslim says....’
Just because he’s Labour some her will find any stick with which to beat him.
If it had been a member of any other party describing an ethnic minority as "half" one thing or another the PC freaks would be wetting themselves and crying
"WAAAAAAAAYYYYY-CCIIIIIIIIISSSST"
pfff virtue signallers
Being half Jewish was most certainly a thing - and a thing you wouldn't want to be - in Nazi Germany.
Corbyn dislike transcends left and right, to some degree at least.
I do not think it is dislike from open minded people.I have heard many comments saying he is not up to the job but no hatred how he conducts himself.
I was talking about dislike of his politics as well, which is the third strand there, it isn't just about whether he's up to the job or his conduct.
Many say he is not up to the job but may like him as a person and his politics. Some few may think him up to the job, like his politics and think like him as a man. Others don't think he'd up to the job, don't like his politics but think as a person he is ok.
You're right that few will dislike him as a person, in addition to disliking his politics and thinking he'd not up to the job. But that doesn't mean they don't dislike him, or that they are being closed minded if they do. I dislike him as a leader, but outside the occasional outburst which everyone has now and then, he seems like a pleasant, agreeable sort.
Dislike is also not the same as hatred. Hatred of a political opponent in a system like ours is rarely justified. Dislike is much milder and perfectly acceptable. Someone hating Labour or the Tories is an idiot, in my view, but dislike, even strong dislike of their ideological positioning (such that it exists)? Sure.
Kle4 Yes I think that is a very fair assessment.One aspect. I like about Corbyn at Pmqs is that he does not seem to get personal but tries to stick to the policy questions.
In fairness, Nutt was sacked for making statements based on science. He said horse riding was more dangerous than taking ecstasy, which is clearly true. E is a very safe drug. Nutt said alcohol and nicotine were far more dangerous than E, which is again simply stating the truth.
I actually met him and I don't personally have an issue with what he said. My point was that Postman Pat got the most soft soapy of soft soapy treatment from the BBC before that (and since). This one issue set them off on him compared to say having no clue at all about economics.
Nutt’s views are actually, in my experience anyway, quite widely held among his peers. However there’s a knee-jerk reaction to such views in most political circles, terrified of the Daily Heil and the like.
It's ok to call Corbyn scruffy but not ok to comment on the appearance of a woman. I'd like to be seen calling that sexist if I were a virtue signaller!
Waycists to the left of me, UKIP to the right, here I am...
In fairness, Nutt was sacked for making statements based on science. He said horse riding was more dangerous than taking ecstasy, which is clearly true. E is a very safe drug. Nutt said alcohol and nicotine were far more dangerous than E, which is again simply stating the truth.
I actually met him and I don't personally have an issue with what he said. My point was that Postman Pat got the most soft soapy of soft soapy treatment from the BBC before that (and since). This one issue set them off on him compared to say having no clue at all about economics.
Nutt’s views are actually, in my experience anyway, quite widely held among his peers. However there’s a knee-jerk reaction to such views in most political circles, terrified of the Daily Heil and the like.
Yes as their views are based on evidence rather the prejudices of the reactionary sheltered-life curtain twitchers of the populist right, senior scientists can often pose a problem for politicians.
The attempted swiftboating of Lewis doesn't impress me, though. If he was making promotional videos they were presumably promoting the TA and presumably involved filming the TA doing military sort of stuff. To say he wouldnt usually end up in a firefight misses the point because conventional planned firefights don't usually involve a danger of shooting civilians. For TA themed wankery in the political sphere he doesn't hold a candle to David SAS Davis, on this evidence.
In fairness, Nutt was sacked for making statements based on science. He said horse riding was more dangerous than taking ecstasy, which is clearly true. E is a very safe drug. Nutt said alcohol and nicotine were far more dangerous than E, which is again simply stating the truth.
I actually met him and I don't personally have an issue with what he said. My point was that Postman Pat got the most soft soapy of soft soapy treatment from the BBC before that (and since). This one issue set them off on him compared to say having no clue at all about economics.
Nutt’s views are actually, in my experience anyway, quite widely held among his peers. However there’s a knee-jerk reaction to such views in most political circles, terrified of the Daily Heil and the like.
Yes as their views are based on evidence rather the prejudices of the reactionary sheltered-life curtain twitchers of the populist right, senior scientists can often pose a problem for politicians.
I thought Trump was more a pu**y man than a breast man.
More seriously, I have never heard of that description for North Koreans....I am going to guess it probably belongs in the same bucket as some similar racist terms to describe the likes of the Japanese.
NORth Koreans seems like a perfectly good contraction for brevity in military briefing and report-writing.
Why do some people reach for "racism" by default? It's just a SJW comfort blanket.
PRK is the proper "contraction".
That's the country not the people though? What would you call the leadership... PRicKs?
As always it's context and history. For example "paki" but seem a reasonable contraction of "pakistani" but the associations mean it is offensive.
Please don't put Clive Lewis out of his misery just yet! Former BBC East colleagues have saved-up so many juicy stories that would keep us entertained for months.
There's an old adage - 'be nice to people on the way up so they can be kind on the way down.'
Sadly for him, it's not a lesson Lewis learned when he was taken off local news front-of-camera reporting when he declared for Labour - it just wasn't compatible with the BBC's 'impartial' status.
When he was transferred to the geeky back office whilst retaining his presenter salary, he didn't endear himself to local colleagues by working to rule and thinking that making the tea every now and then was beneath him.... whilst trousering double wages.
These jouralistic types have long memories. Oh yes.
Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot reporting live from Norwich!
So this arsehole has returned to PB.
Bunnco - your self-important Tory spinner on the spot.
I think he was a regional agent for the Tories in 2015 (2 or 3 counties). Clearly will be one-sided/may be spun but nonetheless and interesting perspective. Don't be too quick to dismiss the value of information just because you don't like it.
Isam: I have a bet at 33-1. Article on the Guardian web site today shoiws much greater interest in the previoulsy ignored LIb Dem campaign. That is Nick palmer he aint going to say enything else, he can't, but that does not mean it is correct does it?. He comes for the day, I live round here, he comes from Nottingham. I know very, very little about Nottingham.
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https://twitter.com/helenlewis/status/829267501561286656
https://twitter.com/helenlewis/status/829267735964160000
But this is worse than it looks, because as a matter of fact the USA could stop the norks doing just that, by the threat or actuality of all out war with or without nukes. So what's stopping me? is what Don will be thinking when this point occurs to him. Never mind the start of modern history, we should be debating whether today marks the beginning of the end of it.
Probably TMI.
1492 Granada and the New World
1453 Castillon and Constantinople
*) Diplomacy (either with the NK's directly or through the Chinese). This has not worked so far.
*) Military - e.g. bombing of sites (and that won't end well without Chinese agreement).
*) Stand-off attack of missiles (think Air Borne Laser successor or equivalent).
The last of these seem to be the one that would appeal most to him, and it would help the US hone their ABM skills. Unfortunately the Chinese and Russians may not be happy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38948281
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/11/john-bercow-new-brexit-furore-neutrality-admitting-voted-remain/
The Speaker of the House of Commons has become involved in a fresh row about political bias after he admitted voting to stay in the European Union and said immigration into Britain was a good thing.
Parliamentary rules state: “The Speaker is the chief officer and highest authority of the House of Commons and must remain politically impartial at all times … therefore, on election the new Speaker must resign from their political party and remain separate from political issues even in retirement.”
All I have to say, is that 1649 is numerologically fertile ground and I feel you simply MUST concede the point or be labelled accordingly.....
http://sacredscribesangelnumbers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/angel-number-1649.html
Word about Fillon reached Andrew Neil.
http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/i-went-from-writer-to-a-fighter-in-war-1-897927
However, this doesn't mean that he is a Walt, or hasn't been under fire.
(*) Or were they? What's the X-37 carrying during it's year+ long mission in space?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37
I don't share the politics, but it is snobbery of the most disgusting variety to suggest she isn't suitable just because she has a northern accent.
She looks credible to me for sure, unless you'd only be happy with a white southern male over the age of 50. If that is the case then you should just come out and say it.
Wtf?!
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/18/bbc-trust-says-laura-kuenssberg-report-on-jeremy-corbyn-was-inaccurate-labour
Swiftboat tactics now employed by Corbynistas !
Gareth Snell
My half Muslim girlfriend angry to suggest all Muslim who follow Allah want to kill Jews. #bbcqt
FAKE NEWS from TSE!
TSE = TORY SCUM!
Sorta-kinda-lika?
Is he sure she's not an Anglican?
Why do some people reach for "racism" by default? It's just a SJW comfort blanket.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017
Just because he’s Labour some her will find any stick with which to beat him.
As always with the BBC, they have a particular world view. It isn't Labour or Tory, it is centre left metropolitan liberal. Postman Pat got massive grief from them when he dared to sack Professor Nutt(y) over his drug claims
"WAAAAAAAAYYYYY-CCIIIIIIIIISSSST"
pfff virtue signallers
In fairness, Nutt was sacked for making statements based on science. He said horse riding was more dangerous than taking ecstasy, which is clearly true. E is a very safe drug. Nutt said alcohol and nicotine were far more dangerous than E, which is again simply stating the truth.
Many say he is not up to the job but may like him as a person and his politics. Some few may think him up to the job, like his politics and think like him as a man. Others don't think he'd up to the job, don't like his politics but think as a person he is ok.
You're right that few will dislike him as a person, in addition to disliking his politics and thinking he'd not up to the job. But that doesn't mean they don't dislike him, or that they are being closed minded if they do. I dislike him as a leader, but outside the occasional outburst which everyone has now and then, he seems like a pleasant, agreeable sort.
Dislike is also not the same as hatred. Hatred of a political opponent in a system like ours is rarely justified. Dislike is much milder and perfectly acceptable. Someone hating Labour or the Tories is an idiot, in my view, but dislike, even strong dislike of their ideological positioning (such that it exists)? Sure.
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Waycists to the left of me, UKIP to the right, here I am...
As always it's context and history. For example "paki" but seem a reasonable contraction of "pakistani" but the associations mean it is offensive.