Yes I think this is true. Labour have been positively daoist over Brexit.
Which leaves all their options open.
Jezza is still your problem there, however.
Well if there IS a Brexit backlash, at least Jezza will be able to say that it wasn't him that misled the public with lies and exagerations. As far as Brexit recriminations are concerned, his honesty and integrity remains pretty much intact. He can also say that it wasn't Labour or the LibDems or the SNP that wanted the referendum in the first place.
For all his many faults, there will be little ammunition that can be fired in his direction over the whole Brexit situation.
Whether the Leave vote was or wasn't about immigration is moot, but also essentially irrelevant.
The fact is the UK - and in particular England, one of the most densely populated countries on earth - clearly cannot sustain net migration of 330,000 a year, in perpetuity, which is what we're getting at the moment, thanks in great part to Free Movement from the EU.
The EU refused to budge on Free Movement, so we had to Leave, and take control of the numbers coming in. The Remainers never had an answer to this question, and still don't, so we're Out.
C'est tout.
"...330,000 a year, in perpetuity, which is what we're getting at the moment..." LOL
Anyway, I thought you all wanted to be Singapore. Take a look at their population density.
England hardly has any people. Have you driven on the motorways ? Mile after mile of nothing. It is not even the most crowded in Europe.
England is more densely populated than any of the EU27 except Malta. If France had the same population density as England does now, it would be home to about 270 million people. The UK as a whole is a little lower down the table, but that doesn't help given that (a) Scotland and Wales consist mostly of upland terrain, remote islands and bog - completely unsuitable for large-scale urban development - and (b) most immigrants stubbornly refuse to be tempted by the attractions of those lands in any case.
That "nothing" to which you refer is the countryside, which is of far more utility to us than another million people (which is what the country's growing by every two years at the moment.)
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Both Belgium and tbe Netherlands have population densities significantly higher than England, and indeed so do other regions of Europe such as the Ruhr or Po valley.
It was notable that within England there is an inverse relationship between population density and voting Remain. Tbe crowded parts voted Remain and the least crowded for Leave.
Not in bradford they didn't,even leeds was close.
Also - someone is conflating England (413mile^-2 with UK(268mile^-2) Belgium is 371.6mile^-2 and Netherlands(411.79mile^-2)
Then you have to remember the pennines/ north york moors/ lake district/ peak district/ exmoor/ bodmin moor/ dartmoor - which occupy large areas for which there is no equivalent in the Netherlands...
Basically England is one drought away from a humanitarian disaster - but it will happen in Remainer territory so I won't mind.
Malta ?
We can't take portions of a country. Officially, the country is called the UK.
Yes I think this is true. Labour have been positively daoist over Brexit.
Which leaves all their options open.
Jezza is still your problem there, however.
Well if there IS a Brexit backlash, at least Jezza will be able to say that it wasn't him that misled the public with lies and exagerations. As far as Brexit recriminations are concerned, his honesty and integrity remains pretty much intact. He can also say that it wasn't Labour or the LibDems or the SNP that wanted the referendum in the first place.
For all his many faults, there will be little ammunition that can be fired in his direction over the whole Brexit situation.
which will be nice for him as he sits reflecting during his impending retirement
Both Belgium and the Netherlands have population densities significantly higher than England, and indeed so do other regions of Europe such as the Ruhr or Po valley.
It was notable that within England there is an inverse relationship between population density and voting Remain. The crowded parts voted Remain and the least crowded for Leave.
Wrong. Much higher than Belgium, recently surpassed the Netherlands. And a much greater proportion of England is also hill country and unfit for large-scale development (even where not already protected as national park) than is the case in the Netherlands, which is mostly pretty flat of course. I can't comment on the regions to which you refer, but Germany and Italy as a whole are both around half that of England.
Your latter argument is also not entirely watertight. Birmingham voted Leave - by a slither, to be sure, but by a majority nonetheless - as did a number of other cities and large towns. Moreover, the recent YouGov survey on Immigration and the Labour Party - http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/tjg0yoww6u/InternalResults_170112_Immigration.pdf - suggests a large majority for at least some controls on numbers in all regional subsets, including that for London.
The greatest mistake in the whole of British history was to honour our commitment to Belgium in 1914. Discuss.
We should have broken up Germany into small city and nation states in 1919. Would have saved a lot of hassle since. You'd have thought after already 50 years of a unified German state having first the Franco-Prussian War and then the Great War would have given a hint or two... Thatcher was right to fear re-unification (again) in '89.
That's now gone the same way as the £350m a week. With hindsight they were clearly just ruses to win the referendum.
They lied
so did remain
whats your point ?
Leave won so it's only their lies p lie through their teeth because they will not be held accountable.
What naive crap
by the time anything happens events will have take will have left the stage
You may have a point if Brexit proves to be a tearaway succe "piece of paper".
Who will you blame if Brexit craps out
Dave for calling it ? George for fking it up ? Obama for being a shit ? Corbyn for dallying ?
If your hope is Liam Fox or Boris then really you should lie down and have a rest neither accounts for much in the greater scheme of thintgs
That's also true but you ain't going to the LDs if it does go tits up and 2/3rds of the UK politicians you have named are Cons plus Jezza's dallying will stand him in good stead (if he were a halfway competent politician, which I appreciate he isn't).
I'm quite happy to stop voting conservative again, at least the SNP can get high speed broadband in to rural areas
I'm sure Jezza can organise the Peoples' broadband for you.
better than the Tories can at any rate
it's a hot issue in our village. The conservatives councillors are all blaming it on Osborne saying it needs EU approval as its a subsidy. BT are blaming it on us being a remote area which got laughed out of court as were 10 miles for the UKs second largest conglomerate and 5 miles from a town of 100,000 people.
All things told its just crap planning and no will from HMG to punish BT.
I had the best rural service last year in Fort Augustus in the middle of the Highlands, really the english just put up with shit.
Last week the SpaceX rocket launched 10 new satellites for Iridium. They'll soon be offering competitive satellite broadband that should make a huge difference to the rural areas of the world.
The greatest mistake in the whole of British history was to honour our commitment to Belgium in 1914. Discuss.
No discussion; you are dead to rights there. You can add the the other two of the so called Benelux countries, who piss on us for liberating them from the Nazis, with whom the elite of those countries were hand in glove with the Germans.
Yes I think this is true. Labour have been positively daoist over Brexit.
Which leaves all their options open.
Jezza is still your problem there, however.
Well if there IS a Brexit backlash, at least Jezza will be able to say that it wasn't him that misled the public with lies and exagerations. As far as Brexit recriminations are concerned, his honesty and integrity remains pretty much intact. He can also say that it wasn't Labour or the LibDems or the SNP that wanted the referendum in the first place.
For all his many faults, there will be little ammunition that can be fired in his direction over the whole Brexit situation.
Jezza is not a politician I would have confidence in to capitalise on any opportunity that presented itself.
Yes I think this is true. Labour have been positively daoist over Brexit.
Which leaves all their options open.
Jezza is still your problem there, however.
Well if there IS a Brexit backlash, at least Jezza will be able to say that it wasn't him that misled the public with lies and exagerations. As far as Brexit recriminations are concerned, his honesty and integrity remains pretty much intact. He can also say that it wasn't Labour or the LibDems or the SNP that wanted the referendum in the first place.
For all his many faults, there will be little ammunition that can be fired in his direction over the whole Brexit situation.
Jezza is not a politician I would have confidence in to capitalise on any opportunity that presented itself.
Given the yawning, gaping open goal that he misses every PMQs, I have to agree.
She's implementing her interpretation of the referendum result, not quite the same thing.
It's the only interpretation which makes any sens immigration as one of their principal arguments. That, indeed, was the only clear thing that came out of the campaigning.
Dan Hannan and many others kept on saying that we will be in the single market after Brexit during the campaign.
That's now gone the same way as the £350m a week. With hindsight they were clearly just ruses to win the referendum.
They lied
so did remain
whats your point ?
What naive crap
by the time anything happens events will have take will have left the stage
You may have a point if Brexit proves to be a tearaway succe "piece of paper".
Who will you blame if Brexit craps out
Dave for calling it ? George for fking it up ? Obama for being a shit ? Corbyn for dallying ?
If your hope is Liam Fox or Boris then really you should lie down and have a rest neither accounts for much in the greater scheme of thintgs
That's also true but you ain't going to the LDs if it does go tits up and 2/3rds of the UK politicians you have named are Cons plus Jezza's dallying will stand him in good stead (if he were a halfway competent politician, which I appreciate he isn't).
I'm quite happy to stop voting conservative again, at least the SNP can get high speed broadband in to rural areas
I'm sure Jezza can organise the Peoples' broadband for you.
better than the Tories can at any rate
it's a hot issue in our village. The conservatives councillors are all blaming it on Osborne saying it needs EU approval as its a subsidy. BT are blaming it on us being a remote area which got laughed out of court as were 10 miles for the UKs second largest conglomerate and 5 miles from a town of 100,000 people.
All things told its just crap planning and no will from HMG to punish BT.
I had the best rural service last year in Fort Augustus in the middle of the Highlands, really the english just put up with shit.
Very similar situation here. BT are proposing to improve things in part of the area, but say someone else is doing a good job in part of the other half, so they're not going to bother. Apparently they WANT me to go elsewhere for service!
BT are blaming it on us being a remote area which got laughed out of court as were 10 miles for the UKs second largest conglomerate and 5 miles from a town of 100,000 people.
She's implementing her interpretation of the referendum result, not quite the same thing.
It's the only interpretation which makes any sens immigration as one of their principal arguments. That, indeed, was the only clear thing that came out of the campaigning.
Dan Hannan and many others kept on saying that we will be in the single market after Brexit during the campaign.
That's now gone the same way as the £350m a week. With hindsight they were clearly just ruses to win the referendum.
They lied
so did remain
whats your point ?
Leave won so it's only their lies people are going to focussing on from now on. We will know if Turkey joins the EU, we will know if the NHS gets an extra £350m a week, we already know that we won't be staying in the SM as Hannan promised etc etc.
And the Point? The point is that as each lie unravels so does the legitimacy of the result. If we had elected a government based on these sort of lies the electorate could punish them at the next GE as they did with the Lib Dems and tuition fees.
With Brexit nobody can be held accountable for winning by lying so it will just fester. The lesson for the next referendum is that anyone can lie through their teeth because they will not be held accountable.
What naive crap
by the time anything happens events will have taken over and the politicians will be covering their arses. If youre pinning your hopes on the blame game you'll be sorely disappointed.
By then nobody will be interested and half the actors will have left the stage
You may have a point if Brexit proves to be a tearaway success but if it goes tits up I can assure you that our fickle electorate will most certainly be hunting for the guilty parties. They are not renowned for accepting their own culpability. We will not hear the end of the £350m a week for many a long year, it will end political mythology along with Chamberlain's "piece of paper".
Who will you blame if Brexit craps out
Dave for calling it ? George for fking it up ? Obama for being a shit ? Corbyn for dallying ?
If your hope is Liam Fox or Boris then really you should lie down and have a rest neither accounts for much in the greater scheme of thintgs
The Tory party is going to get most of the brickbats, I would have thought that would be pretty self-evident even to those with a tenuous grasp of political reality.
She's implementing her interpretation of the referendum result, not quite the same thing.
It's the only interpretation which makes any sens immigration as one of their principal arguments. That, indeed, was the only clear thing that came out of the campaigning.
Dan Hannan and many others kept on saying that we will be in the single market after Brexit during the campaign.
That's now gone the same way as the £350m a week. With hindsight they were clearly just ruses to win the referendum.
They lied
so did remain
whats your point ?
Leave won so it's only their lies people are going to focussing on from now on. We will know if Turkey joins the EU, we will know if the NHS gets an extra £350m a week, we already know that we won't be staying in the SM as Hannan promised etc etc.
And the Point? The point is that as each lie unravor winning by lying so it will just fester. The lesson for the next referendum is that anyone can lie through their teeth because they will not be held accountable.
What naive crap
by the time anything happens events will have taken over and the politicians will be covering their arses. If youre pinning your hopes on the blame game you'll be sorely disappointed.
By then nobody will be interested and half the actors will have left the stage
You may have a point if Brexit proves to be a tearaway succes Chamberlain's "piece of paper".
Who will you blame if Brexit craps out
Dave for calling it ? George for fking it up ? Obama for being a shit ? Corbyn for dallying ?
If your hope is Liam Fox or Boris then really you should lie down and have a rest neither accounts for much in the greater scheme of thintgs
The Tory party is going to get most of the brickbats, I would have thought that would be pretty self-evident even to those with a tenuous grasp of political reality.
The Tories will survive any fallout and recover as they always have. Will Labour ?
She's implementing her interpretation of the referendum result, not quite the same thing.
It's the only interpretation which makes any sens immigration as one of their principal arguments. That, indeed, was the only clear thing that came out of the campaigning.
Dan Hannan and many others kept on saying that we will be in the single market after Brexit during the campaign.
That's now gone the same way as the £350m a week. With hindsight they were clearly just ruses to win the referendum.
They lied
so did remain
whats your point ?
Leave won so it's only their lies people are going to focussing on from now on. We will know if Turkey joins the EU, we will know if the NHS gets an extra £350m a week, we already know that we won't be staying in the SM as Hannan promised etc etc.
And the Point? The point is that as each lie unravels so does the legitimacy of the result. If we had elected a government based on these sort of lies the electorate could punish them at the next GE as they did with the Lib Dems and tuition fees.
With Brexit nobody can be held accountable for winning by lying so it will just fester. The lesson for the next referendum is that anyone can lie through their teeth because they will not be held accountable.
What naive crap
by the time anything happens events will have taken over and the politicians will be covering their arses. If youre pinning your hopes on the blame game you'll be sorely disappointed.
By then nobody will be interested and half the actors will have left the stage
You may have a point if Brexit proves to be a tearaway success but if it goes tits up I can assure you that our fickle electorate will most certainly be hunting for the guilty parties. They are not renowned for accepting their own culpability. We will not hear the end of the £350m a week for many a long year, it will end political mythology along with Chamberlain's "piece of paper".
Who will you blame if Brexit craps out
Dave for calling it ? George for fking it up ? Obama for being a shit ? Corbyn for dallying ?
If your hope is Liam Fox or Boris then really you should lie down and have a rest neither accounts for much in the greater scheme of thintgs
The Tory party is going to get most of the brickbats, I would have thought that would be pretty self-evident even to those with a tenuous grasp of political reality.
BT are blaming it on us being a remote area which got laughed out of court as were 10 miles for the UKs second largest conglomerate and 5 miles from a town of 100,000 people.
17 miles from Solihull. Awesome BT broadband...
Disraeli had the right idea. He nationalised the telegraph service in 1868 because the previous private sector operation was such s***.
BT are blaming it on us being a remote area which got laughed out of court as were 10 miles for the UKs second largest conglomerate and 5 miles from a town of 100,000 people.
17 miles from Solihull. Awesome BT broadband...
Disraeli had the right idea. He nationalised the telegraph service in 1868 because the previous private sector operation was such s***.
Clearly it's only EU state aid rules that prevent us achieving utopia. The keys to power for Corbyn are there for the taking.
BT are blaming it on us being a remote area which got laughed out of court as were 10 miles for the UKs second largest conglomerate and 5 miles from a town of 100,000 people.
17 miles from Solihull. Awesome BT broadband...
Disraeli had the right idea. He nationalised the telegraph service in 1868 because the previous private sector operation was such s***.
The Tory party is going to get most of the brickbats, I would have thought that would be pretty self-evident even to those with a tenuous grasp of political reality.
The Tories will survive any fallout and recover as they always have.
Indeed. Come 2020 and May will win the greatest victory since the Winchester flower-arranging team beat Harrow by twelve sore bottoms to one!
Brexit and the emasculation of UKIP. UKIP and the emasculation of Labour. Labour and the emasculation of Labour. Boundary reforms and the, er, emasculation of Labour. The SNP and the emasculation of.. Labour.
There could be a small Lib Dem resurgence in the West Country, so will lose a few seats there. They'll more than be made up elsewhere.
Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni said on Wednesday that Britain had finally made clear how it planned to pursue its exit from the European Union and he was sure a deal could be reached between the two sides.
A speech delivered by British Prime Minister Theresa May on Tuesday "gave meaning to what had been just a headline: 'Brexit is Brexit'", Gentiloni said at a news conference in Berlin alongside German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
"I think the EU is ready to discuss the issue with the correct approach, which is in solidarity and friendship with Britain," Gentiloni said.
"We now know ...how the discussion will start and how it will proceed, and on this basis I believe that it will be possible reach an agreement," he added.
The Tory party is going to get most of the brickbats, I would have thought that would be pretty self-evident even to those with a tenuous grasp of political reality.
The Tories will survive any fallout and recover as they always have.
Indeed. Come 2020 and May will win the greatest victory since the Winchester flower-arranging team beat Harrow by twelve sore bottoms to one!
Brexit and the emasculation of UKIP. UKIP and the emasculation of Labour. Labour and the emasculation of Labour. Boundary reforms and the, er, emasculation of Labour. The SNP and the emasculation of.. Labour.
There could be a small Lib Dem resurgence in the West Country, so will lose a few seats there. They'll more than be made up elsewhere.
I wonder if the 3rd Tesla 3 reveal will show a transparent Panasonic HD monitor built into the windscreen - because Tesla is going HUD, and has the Panasonic connection, and because Tesla is making its own glass. So with a HUD, autonomous driving, long range and very quick MegaChargers, would you buy a 0% tariff Tesla or a 10%-40% tariff 3 series?
Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni said on Wednesday that Britain had finally made clear how it planned to pursue its exit from the European Union and he was sure a deal could be reached between the two sides.
A speech delivered by British Prime Minister Theresa May on Tuesday "gave meaning to what had been just a headline: 'Brexit is Brexit'", Gentiloni said at a news conference in Berlin alongside German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
"I think the EU is ready to discuss the issue with the correct approach, which is in solidarity and friendship with Britain," Gentiloni said.
"We now know ...how the discussion will start and how it will proceed, and on this basis I believe that it will be possible reach an agreement," he added.
Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni said on Wednesday that Britain had finally made clear how it planned to pursue its exit from the European Union and he was sure a deal could be reached between the two sides.
A speech delivered by British Prime Minister Theresa May on Tuesday "gave meaning to what had been just a headline: 'Brexit is Brexit'", Gentiloni said at a news conference in Berlin alongside German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
"I think the EU is ready to discuss the issue with the correct approach, which is in solidarity and friendship with Britain," Gentiloni said.
"We now know ...how the discussion will start and how it will proceed, and on this basis I believe that it will be possible reach an agreement," he added.
Isn't it strange how in the midst of his reposting frenzy Scott somehow forgot to repost this particular item.
She's implementing her interpretation of the referendum result, not quite the same thing.
It's the only interpretation which makes any sens immigration as one of their principal arguments. That, indeed, was the only clear thing that came out of the campaigning.
The Tory party is going to get most of the brickbats, I would have thought that would be pretty self-evident even to those with a tenuous grasp of political reality.
The Tories will survive any fallout and recover as they always have. Will Labour ?
I don't recall that we were debating the Tories survival prospects, we were debating who the electorate would blame if Brexit goes belly up .
I'll assume from your non-sequitur that we are agreeing it will be the Tories taking the flak. As you have raised it I agree that they will survive, they are a pragmatic, non-ideological party and and will change their policies to suit the prevailing wind as they have always done. I don't much care whether Labour survives or not but I wouldn't bet on them disappearing - different leader in a couple of years, Brexit going badly, Lib Dems picking up 20 Tory seats in the south and the slender Tory majority disappear i the blink of an eye.
I assumed from your post you were blaming the Tories
my point remains the world will be different by then
One year ago we had a full hand of liberal internationalists - Obama Cameron Hollande Merkel
three of them will be gone by June and Merkel is looking shaky
the guard has changed and we are entering a new era, who did what when three four years ago will largely seem irrelevant, we'll have a different set of priorities
Hungary's foreign minister Peter Szijjarto said on Wednesday the European Union and Britain should strive for the widest, most comprehensive possible free trade deal in the wake of Britain's impending exit from the bloc, or Europe risks economic harm.
He added that even though Brexit was "bad news for Europe as well as Hungary" the European Union must not penalise London in any way for the decision, and urged close cooperation between Europe and Britain in the areas of security and labour.
Szijjarto warned that the UK is likely to make quick trade deals with other nations, posing a risk to Europe if it proves less competitive.
Whether the Leave vote was or wasn't about immigration is moot, but also essentially irrelevant.
The fact is the UK - and in particular England, one of the most densely populated countries on earth - clearly cannot sustain net migration of 330,000 a year, in perpetuity, which is what we're getting at the moment, thanks in great part to Free Movement from the EU.
The EU refused to budge on Free Movement, so we had to Leave, and take control of the numbers coming in. The Remainers never had an answer to this question, and still don't, so we're Out.
C'est tout.
"...330,000 a year, in perpetuity, which is what we're getting at the moment..." LOL
Anyway, I thought you all wanted to be Singapore. Take a look at their population density.
England hardly has any people. Have you driven on the motorways ? Mile after mile of nothing. It is not even the most crowded in Europe.
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That "nothing" to which you refer is the countryside, which is of far more utility to us than another million people (which is what the country's growing by every two years at the moment.)
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Both Belgium and tbe Netherlands have population densities significantly higher than England, and indeed so do other regions of Europe such as the Ruhr or Po valley.
It was notable that within England there is an inverse relationship between population density and voting Remain. Tbe crowded parts voted Remain and the least crowded for Leave.
Not in bradford they didn't,even leeds was close.
Also - someone is conflating England (413mile^-2 with UK(268mile^-2) Belgium is 371.6mile^-2 and Netherlands(411.79mile^-2)
Then you have to remember the pennines/ north york moors/ lake district/ peak district/ exmoor/ bodmin moor/ dartmoor - which occupy large areas for which there is no equivalent in the Netherlands...
Basically England is one drought away from a humanitarian disaster - but it will happen in Remainer territory so I won't mind.
Malta ?
We can't take portions of a country. Officially, the country is called the UK.
Must admit when I go up the A68, I see a nice big granite stone at Carter Bar with 'Scotland' rather than 'Northern UK' written on it. Perhaps someone forgot to move it.
OK, Scott has convinced me. It is clearly impossible for 28 sovereign nation states to do what is in the best interest of those 28 sovereign nation states.
OK, Scott has convinced me. It is clearly impossible for 28 sovereign nation states to do what is in the best interest of those 28 sovereign nation states.
Scott has convinced me that, to EU leaders, the project is more important than prosperity - we are definitely better off out.
OK, Scott has convinced me. It is clearly impossible for 28 sovereign nation states to do what is in the best interest of those 28 sovereign nation states.
It's almost as if the whole thing is dysfunctional.
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For all his many faults, there will be little ammunition that can be fired in his direction over the whole Brexit situation.
We can't take portions of a country. Officially, the country is called the UK.
Your latter argument is also not entirely watertight. Birmingham voted Leave - by a slither, to be sure, but by a majority nonetheless - as did a number of other cities and large towns. Moreover, the recent YouGov survey on Immigration and the Labour Party - http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/tjg0yoww6u/InternalResults_170112_Immigration.pdf - suggests a large majority for at least some controls on numbers in all regional subsets, including that for London.
@ACBerlin: @bpolitics German-British trade chambers head says idea car industry concerns will make Germany flexible in #brexit talks is a 'dream'
'...she warned migrant communities could develop "exclusive social networks and alternative labour markets" without learning the native language.'
https://twitter.com/camartshums/status/821299648463781889
Guess who re-privatised it in 1984?
Brexit and the emasculation of UKIP.
UKIP and the emasculation of Labour.
Labour and the emasculation of Labour.
Boundary reforms and the, er, emasculation of Labour.
The SNP and the emasculation of.. Labour.
There could be a small Lib Dem resurgence in the West Country, so will lose a few seats there. They'll more than be made up elsewhere.
Regarding them being the last British-built mainline locomotives, what about 60163 'Tornado'?
A speech delivered by British Prime Minister Theresa May on Tuesday "gave meaning to what had been just a headline: 'Brexit is Brexit'", Gentiloni said at a news conference in Berlin alongside German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
"I think the EU is ready to discuss the issue with the correct approach, which is in solidarity and friendship with Britain," Gentiloni said.
"We now know ...how the discussion will start and how it will proceed, and on this basis I believe that it will be possible reach an agreement," he added.
continuation
I assumed from your post you were blaming the Tories
my point remains the world will be different by then
One year ago we had a full hand of liberal internationalists - Obama Cameron Hollande Merkel
three of them will be gone by June and Merkel is looking shaky
the guard has changed and we are entering a new era, who did what when three four years ago will largely seem irrelevant, we'll have a different set of priorities
Hungary's foreign minister Peter Szijjarto said on Wednesday the European Union and Britain should strive for the widest, most comprehensive possible free trade deal in the wake of Britain's impending exit from the bloc, or Europe risks economic harm.
He added that even though Brexit was "bad news for Europe as well as Hungary" the European Union must not penalise London in any way for the decision, and urged close cooperation between Europe and Britain in the areas of security and labour.
Szijjarto warned that the UK is likely to make quick trade deals with other nations, posing a risk to Europe if it proves less competitive.
https://twitter.com/steven_winstone/status/821411650997776384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyICCFw2hws
I'm not joking.