December 21st 2016 Cranleigh West (Con defence) on Waverley Result of council at last election (2015): Conservatives 53, Farnham Residents 3, Independent 1 (Conservative majority of 49) Result of ward at last election (2015): Emboldened denotes elected Conservatives 1,269, 1,155 (56%) Liberal Democrats 685, 515 (30%) Labour 321, 192 (14%) EU Referendum Result: REMAIN 44,341 (58%) LEAVE 31,601 (42%) on a turnout of 82% Candidates duly nominated: Richard Cole (Lib Dem), Rosaleen Egan (UKIP), Liz Townsend (Con) Result: Conservative 377 (59% +3%), Liberal Democrat 187 (29% -1%), United Kingdom Independence Party 78 (12%, no candidate in 2015) Conservative HOLD with a majority of 190 (30%) on a swing of 2% from Liberal Democrat to Conservative
Comments
Something about the ward name Hedge End immediately made me think it was a LD seat. Of course, Eastleigh seems to be among the most LD friendly areas of the country. Isn't a majority of 32 low for that council?
Re name calling, a lot of people claim to be happy to take it and so are free to dish it out, but from what I can see, rarely justify such a claim regarding the former and demonstrate incredible sensitivity to even minor criticism. Easier to admit most people don't like taking it, so just don't dish it out.
@Mortimer
So you don't have anything to say to any of my points? Only that your experience of other views reigns supreme? What a shame.
Re you're last point: well that is based on your assumption that Labour Party and Momentum represent all of the British Left. I'd have thought that being on this site, and seeing many on the left be critical of Corbyn and Mometum, alongside criticism of Corbyn from other parts of the left in the media - such as The New Statesmen - would have showed you otherwise.
Copeland: 9.1%
Blaenau Gwent: 8.9%
Rhondda: 8.2%
Merthyr Tydfil & Rhymney: 8.1%
Motherwell North: 8.0%
Glasgow Springburn: 7.9%
Angus East: 7.8%
Glasgow Provan: 7.2%
Ynys Mon: 6.7%
Dundee East: 4.6%
For someone raised as an Ulster protestant that is one heck of a step to take.
Result in 2015 2 seats
LD 729/652
UKIP 666/567
Lab 632/516
Con 604/496
Green 220/131
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/12/22/clinton_loss_shows_the_importance_of_being_there_132627.html
This number surprised me - 85,000 voters in Michigan alone voted for bottom of the ticket candidates but not for any of the Presidential candidates. That is an awful lot of people who bothered to vote, who could not bring themselves to select any of the presidential candidates.
The West Cumbria edition of the daily News and Star runs a proper front page on it but carries the Reed spin uncritically. He is " heartbroken " and it is " the worst day of his life. " An odd description of freely choosing to take a better paid job. The News and Star knows what proportion of local and buying comes from Big Nuclear so the puff piece on the MAP for Sellafield leaving to work for Sellafield is no surprise.
Whether electors buy their MP sodding off for more cash as " the worst day of my life " remains to be seen.
The timeline is explained as well. He starts his new job on 1/2/17 so the end of January resignation preserves his salary and allows a brief period where he can campaign as the incumbent alongside the new candidate.
The give away for me was he was wearing a clearly new and illfitting suit and red tie which had clearly been bought in haste.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/12/optimists-guide-brexit
For someone raised as an Ulster protestant that is one heck of a step to take.
Bit like when you changed your EUref vote because you didn't like Nige. Sensitive bordering on unhinged.
http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2016/12/21/its-christmas-and-family-comes-first-even-for-mps/
(May have already been linked)
Good evening, everyone.
For poster of the year I think I tipped AndyJS and Pong...this is a political site after all.
For the person who best embodies all those things I love and admire about humanity....then Yellow Submarine. Joff and Roger.....deserve a mention.
In my Xmas bonhomie, I am still in no mood for Brexit and Trump wankers mind...... I have absolutely no time in my life for such horrible nihilism....
Wankers is really the very best thing I could say about you and your ilk....if I could say what I felt then I doubt very much I would be allowed here.
Brexit, Trump, Grillo, Le Pen, Wilders... and your nihilistic followers....you have made the civilised world that much less civilised. Well done. 2016 is a good year for the dark side.
For someone raised as an Ulster protestant that is one heck of a step to take.
youre on catch up Beverley
Ive had one for 20 years and have fitted all the kids out with one, it's proved surprisingly useful over the years
Failte :-)
For someone raised as an Ulster protestant that is one heck of a step to take.
I can assure you, you are not the only one !
why Surby I didnt know you were an Ulster Prod, but now you say it you have a touch of the Paisleys about you.
Happy Christmas on that bombshell....
Easiest trivia question ever... what is Ronaldo's son called.... clue = it's suggestive of ego
"I prefer Leavite"
They begat the Philistines.....
Hopefully, 2017 will be even more fun than 2016 has been.
excellent
@SeanFear....I always viewed you as an odd and rather endearing residue of the anachronistic right. Now you are in power...I bet even you are worried, because you never really expected it.
As said Happy Xmas to all...except Brexit, Corbynistas, badger cullers, climate change deniers, Trump, Grillo, Le Pen, Wilders....I hope your turkey is burnt to a crisp, and something worse happens to you all.....
Silly question, of course. But assuming good faith in one's opponents saves a lot of stress and bad temper, and is perhaps something we could experiment with for a week or two now that it is that Goodwill-to-all-men time of the year..
If you like clumsy metaphors, and transparent allegories, fill your boots
http://aboutasfarasdelgados.blogspot.co.uk/
Assuming good faith in one's opponents....is that how you expected the Jews to feel as they were led to the gas chambers.?
I really despise beyond anything the gloating Brexit and Trumpers for saying such nonsense. You won.
The tyranny of the majority........it has won, and we all will suffer....
So please, please, do not look for any kind of rapprochement from people like me. I hate you all the more for asking for it.....
season's greetings.
http://news.sky.com/story/shares-in-worlds-oldest-bank-suspended-again-on-funding-worries-10703877
The German Government probably tried to do a conspiracy to cover it up but they failed.
It also aligns with your anecdote of a mate's anecdote of the German media.
Remember that Germans are always very good at obeying orders.
There was much less bullsh!t this year than in the past 30 years, people are more direct and to the point (like you are for instance), which is progress for the civilized world.
This is the thin edge of the wedge as Unions will now push for reduction in retirement age across the public sector at enormous cost and inequality
That is why they always vote for the person who orders them around already, same as Japan, which results in a very sclerotic and antiquated approach to things.
"I order you to Vote for me"
"As you wish Master, ect "
Germans have voted for a change of government only 3 times in 57 years.
The roof has to fall in and then some for the germans to vote for change.
But a sad way to move up the ranking.
Not the decisive rejections of government as seen in the UK, USA, France or indeed most other countries.
Italy will argue that it's deposit protection scheme covers savings products issued by banks up to 100,000, as these products are indistinguishable from time deposits.
But it's all irrelevant anyway because the ECB has no right to preemptively prevent a government buying the shares of a bank (i.e., bailing it out), only to challenge it after the fact. And all the ECB can do is issue a fine, by which point the Italian government will be the only people capable of paying the fine, as they'll be the owners of BMPS.
* i.e., their debt is converted to equity
I do what I feel is right rather than blindly follow stuff. When conditions change I re-evaluate.
(Of course, BMPS may be recapitalised and refloated, but I suspect it'll be broken up and BNP will take the best bits.)
Ive had one for 20 years and have fitted all the kids out with one, it's proved surprisingly useful over the years
Failte :-)
I am indeed on catch-up. I was always proud of being British but that is getting more and more tarnished with the act of collective madness known as Brexit. Since I have options I intend to ensure that I utilise them.
Nollaig shona dhuit :-)
"Easiest trivia question ever... what is Ronaldo's son called.... clue = it's suggestive of ego"
I was slightly surprised it wasn't Jesus.....
No affection for Trump. Just thought he was going to win. This is a betting site, after all.
One of the top moments of the year for me was Bobajobabobajobabobajob pestering those who thought Trump would win for a call. Only to see him win.
Just out of interest, what advantages do you think your possession of an Irish Passport gives you?
And try to avoid Brexit discussion over Christmas! Happy Christmas.
Good will to all men, remain or Leave!
(Of course Berenberg try to claim they date from 1590, but as the founders sold then a hundred years ago it's really a new firm).
Merry Xmas
Nollaig shona dhuit :-)
MADNESS? THIS IS
SPARTABREXIT!He had the ignominy of being let go from the family firm, despite being the best guy on the European sales desk in London.
I think you are right....2016 has allowed us to show what we really think...for good or ill.... At least we know what we are up against.
Mortimer...your depiction of Oxford...full of Brexiters, or sympathetic, adjusted Remainers...Please with a capital P..... Either you are a sad fantasist, or a Billy No Mates stuck in your room with Wifi and a box of kleenex....
There is also an emotional aspect to the whole thing. I see some of the more extreme pronouncements from politicians and others and, thanks to the internet, if I can see them so can anybody else anywhere else. The voices of those who voted remain are largely unheard whereas it seems that the voices of "Leave" are loudly shouted out. Stupid speeches like Amber Rudd's at the Tory party conference or the idiotic comments of Boris as Foreign Secretary and as for the bile pumped out by the Daily Mail ....
I think what hurts the most is not losing EU citizenship (I can fix it) but that I feel the megaphone diplomacy is making me ashamed of my own country. I find that hard to stomach.