To be fair, it's not like we were champing at the bit to go on the offensive and were held back by French dilatoriness either. I do feel that if we (the western allies) had fought for the Czechs in 1938 or actually gone on the offensive while the Wehrmacht were busy in Poland, Hitler would be just a historical footnote today.
The UK was in no position to go to war in 1938 and in 1939 the situation was barely that much better. The idea that the UK and France could have conducted and offensive war against Germany in either year is laughable. There were not the troops, the aircraft, the logistics and, especially, not the mindset to do any such thing.
Perhaps there should have been but that is a different argument and one which should mostly be directed at Paris.
In September '39, France had 40 divisions facing Germany's 22 divisions in the West.
"I think the point is that he does it all the time."
I suspect he does. But what does it lead to here. Any male politician in America can get the same treatment. If someone accused you of touching someone inappropriately at an outdoor event twenty years ago, what would be your defence? No one could back you up because no one would remember (unless it was blatant).
If the victim broke down in tears at the press conference (assuming you were famous, of course) it all seems ... opportunistic at best.
He may be a serial grope,r but this is getting silly now. It risks producing a bit of sympathy for him. Perhaps it's a GOP plot?
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
To be fair, it's not like we were champing at the bit to go on the offensive and were held back by French dilatoriness either. I do feel that if we (the western allies) had fought for the Czechs in 1938 or actually gone on the offensive while the Wehrmacht were busy in Poland, Hitler would be just a historical footnote today.
The UK was in no position to go to war in 1938 and in 1939 the situation was barely that much better. The idea that the UK and France could have conducted and offensive war against Germany in either year is laughable. There were not the troops, the aircraft, the logistics and, especially, not the mindset to do any such thing.
Perhaps there should have been but that is a different argument and one which should mostly be directed at Paris.
In September '39, France had 40 divisions facing Germany's 22 divisions in the West.
Quality versus quantity, Cap'n doc. Also as I said, there was not the logistics, or mindset for an offensive war. That Maginot Line was built for a purpose and that purpose defined French military thinking in the thirties.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
It appears the turnout at Witney is going to be pretty good for a by election. That would suggest quite a close result as the enthusuasm LOCALLY seems to be with the Lib Dems, (this is the first by election I can recall for years where they are getting cheers, waves and car drivers honking support).
"I think the point is that he does it all the time."
I suspect he does. But what does it lead to here. Any male politician in America can get the same treatment. If someone accused you of touching someone inappropriately at an outdoor event twenty years ago, what would be your defence? No one could back you up because no one would remember (unless it was blatant).
If the victim broke down in tears at the press conference (assuming you were famous, of course) it all seems ... opportunistic at best.
He may be a serial grope,r but this is getting silly now. It risks producing a bit of sympathy for him. Perhaps it's a GOP plot?
"I think the point is that he does it all the time."
I suspect he does. But what does it lead to here. Any male politician in America can get the same treatment. If someone accused you of touching someone inappropriately at an outdoor event twenty years ago, what would be your defence? No one could back you up because no one would remember (unless it was blatant).
If the victim broke down in tears at the press conference (assuming you were famous, of course) it all seems ... opportunistic at best.
He may be a serial grope,r but this is getting silly now. It risks producing a bit of sympathy for him. Perhaps it's a GOP plot?
most defences would be 'I would never do that sort of thing, i cant remember what happened 20 years ago, but thats not the sort of person i am'.
Of course, he has been caught admitting that he does that sort of thing. That and him dismissing it as 'locker room talk' means he has no real defence aside from calling his victims too ugly to abuse.
So, i very much doubt people in general will give him the benefit of the doubt or sympathy.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
“To me, the difference between a mathematician and non-mathematician is that the former keeps going and makes mistakes until they come up with a solution while the latter consider themselves failures if they make an error or are beaten by the clock.”
Why? Surely this is the most Tory of shires. What's behind all this honking?
West Oxfordshire is "liberal Tory": Hurd, Woodward, Cameron. People round here vote Tory but give money for refugee help groups.
Put a popular local Lib Dem up against an unknown Brexiteering Conservative, when the mood music coming from Westminster is "hard Brexit" and "dental tests for child refugees", and you can see that there are grounds for some sort of swing.
Bear in mind too that the rural areas of the constituency have not done well out of the Conservative-controlled County Council cuts recently, and that the plans to build thousands of new houses to cope with Oxford's overspill are not very popular either.
I'm not confident enough to call tonight's percentages (though Robert's numbers look plausible to me) but I think it's pretty unarguable that they will be less Tory than the seat was at GE2015.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
"I think the point is that he does it all the time."
I suspect he does. But what does it lead to here. Any male politician in America can get the same treatment. If someone accused you of touching someone inappropriately at an outdoor event twenty years ago, what would be your defence? No one could back you up because no one would remember (unless it was blatant).
If the victim broke down in tears at the press conference (assuming you were famous, of course) it all seems ... opportunistic at best.
He may be a serial grope,r but this is getting silly now. It risks producing a bit of sympathy for him. Perhaps it's a GOP plot?
"I think the point is that he does it all the time."
I suspect he does. But what does it lead to here. Any male politician in America can get the same treatment. If someone accused you of touching someone inappropriately at an outdoor event twenty years ago, what would be your defence? No one could back you up because no one would remember (unless it was blatant).
If the victim broke down in tears at the press conference (assuming you were famous, of course) it all seems ... opportunistic at best.
He may be a serial grope,r but this is getting silly now. It risks producing a bit of sympathy for him. Perhaps it's a GOP plot?
most defences would be 'I would never do that sort of thing, i cant remember what happened 20 years ago, but thats not the sort of person i am'.
Of course, he has been caught admitting that he does that sort of thing. That and him dismissing it as 'locker room talk' means he has no real defence aside from calling his victims too ugly to abuse.
So, i very much doubt people in general will give him the benefit of the doubt or sympathy.
@faisalislam: in Brussels Lab leader @jeremycorbyn has just told me he is inviting some European leaders for a Brexit summit in February, weeks before a50
Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Yanis Varoufakis and José Bové?
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
To be fair, it's not like we were champing at the bit to go on the offensive and were held back by French dilatoriness either. I do feel that if we (the western allies) had fought for the Czechs in 1938 or actually gone on the offensive while the Wehrmacht were busy in Poland, Hitler would be just a historical footnote today.
The UK was in no position to go to war in 1938 and in 1939 the situation was barely that much better. The idea that the UK and France could have conducted and offensive war against Germany in either year is laughable. There were not the troops, the aircraft, the logistics and, especially, not the mindset to do any such thing.
Perhaps there should have been but that is a different argument and one which should mostly be directed at Paris.
Ah, but neither was Germany in 1938. The OKW was terrified that the Sudeten Crisis would turn into a shooting war with the Czechs, who could have easily resisted an invasion with the state of the German forces in 1938 vs their defensible territory and border fortifications[1] long enough for the allies and/or the Soviets to get into gear and intervene.
To be fair, the OKW were pretty lukewarm at the prospect of attacking Poland, at least until the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact gave them the security Stalin wouldn't intervene on the Poles' side, and then attacking France and the low countries in 1940. Hitler really was phenomenally lucky in the early years of the war: to a large extent the Nazi war machine before 1940 was strong but hollow shell. A bit more resistance and it could have crumbled to dust.
[1] All lost at Munich, which made Hitler's subsequent invasion of the rump Czech state in March 1939 a pushover.
Regional visas seems like an idea with merit. They have these kind of things in Australia for the various states. Not sure how reciprocity in EU states would work though... If a Frenchman has the right to live in London or Scotland, Londoners and Scots should have the right to move to Paris for example.
Mr. Llama, the Lindy Beige Youtube channel is full of excellence. Normally I wouldn't bother with such modernist nonsense, but did find it entertaining.
He's also writing a graphic novel. About Hannibal. I imagine it will be the first graphic novel I buy.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
The problem is that they all claimed a thousand other horrors as well. Nobody believed them.
Is Donald Trump pretending to be mad because this is all just a publicity stunt and he doesn't want to be POTUS?
Discuss.
Everything about him boils down to the fact that he is a huge narcissist. That is why he is unable to comprehend he is destroying his chances - he doesn't see himself having done anything wrong, and so the only possible explanation is that someone else is sabotaging it for him. I think he genuinely believes the election is being rigged against him. He deserves to win and others are sabotaging him. The narcissism links back to his sexist views on women generally too, they are there purely to serve his needs.
I don't think he actually cares deep down about roe v wade, about building walls and banning muslims, that's all just red meat for his supporters. His sexist views on women are genuine though, and that's why it has cut through with potential supporters I think.
He's not just unfit to President, he's unfit to even lead the populist anti-globalist/far-right movement, he's not credible like Farage or Le Pen, not serious, and only believes in himself.
So i'll go with genuinely mad, a complete narcissist who will certainly call foul play, and probably incite violence, when/if he loses on november 8th.
To be fair, it's not like we were champing at the bit to go on the offensive and were held back by French dilatoriness either. I do feel that if we (the western allies) had fought for the Czechs in 1938 or actually gone on the offensive while the Wehrmacht were busy in Poland, Hitler would be just a historical footnote today.
The UK was in no position to go to war in 1938 and in 1939 the situation was barely that much better. The idea that the UK and France could have conducted and offensive war against Germany in either year is laughable. There were not the troops, the aircraft, the logistics and, especially, not the mindset to do any such thing.
Perhaps there should have been but that is a different argument and one which should mostly be directed at Paris.
Ah, but neither was Germany in 1938. The OKW was terrified that the Sudeten Crisis would turn into a shooting war with the Czechs, who could have easily resisted an invasion with the state of the German forces in 1938 vs their defensible territory and border fortifications[1] long enough for the allies and/or the Soviets to get into gear and intervene.
To be fair, the OKW were pretty lukewarm at the prospect of attacking Poland, at least until the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact gave them the security Stalin wouldn't intervene on the Poles' side, and then attacking France and the low countries in 1940. Hitler really was phenomenally lucky in the early years of the war: to a large extent the Nazi war machine before 1940 was strong but hollow shell. A bit more resistance and it could have crumbled to dust.
[1] All lost at Munich, which made Hitler's subsequent invasion of the rump Czech state in March 1939 a pushover.
I wouldn't disagree with much of that, Mr. rpjs, particularly how astonishingly lucky the Germans were in the Battle of France (in betting terms I think of it as a six race accumulator that actually came off). However, the Western Allies mindset was for a defensive war, there was no offensive capability.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
The problem is that they all claimed a thousand other horrors as well. Nobody believed them.
The point is that the public were told - whether or not they believed either side, is moot.
PC Clip. I am no lover of Mr Clegg but really. You quote him as saying "the voters". He could be right, because the voters do not necessarily think what "politicians" tell them. I personally know several folk who voted Leave because of immigration and did not involve the single market in their decision. Far from being "deranged" that might well suggest his argument has some credence.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
The problem is that they all claimed a thousand other horrors as well. Nobody believed them.
Mr. Clipp, Have you read the Korski article mentioned repeatedly on the last thread? It does give, amongst many other things, a very credible view as to why the Leave Campaign was not believed.
Nick Clegg came across as borderline deranged on the Daily Politics. Tries to argue that voters were not aware that Brexit meant leaving the single market only for the BBC to play him a clip of David Cameron, George Osborne, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom claiming that it would.
The problem is that they all claimed a thousand other horrors as well. Nobody believed them.
Mr. Clipp, Have you read the Korski article mentioned repeatedly on the last thread? It does give, amongst many other things, a very credible view as to why the Leave Campaign was not believed.
To be fair, it's not like we were champing at the bit to go on the offensive and were held back by French dilatoriness either. I do feel that if we (the western allies) had fought for the Czechs in 1938 or actually gone on the offensive while the Wehrmacht were busy in Poland, Hitler would be just a historical footnote today.
The UK was in no position to go to war in 1938 and in 1939 the situation was barely that much better. The idea that the UK and France could have conducted and offensive war against Germany in either year is laughable. There were not the troops, the aircraft, the logistics and, especially, not the mindset to do any such thing.
Perhaps there should have been but that is a different argument and one which should mostly be directed at Paris.
Ah, but neither was Germany in 1938. The OKW was terrified that the Sudeten Crisis would turn into a shooting war with the Czechs, who could have easily resisted an invasion with the state of the German forces in 1938 vs their defensible territory and border fortifications[1] long enough for the allies and/or the Soviets to get into gear and intervene.
To be fair, the OKW were pretty lukewarm at the prospect of attacking Poland, at least until the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact gave them the security Stalin wouldn't intervene on the Poles' side, and then attacking France and the low countries in 1940. Hitler really was phenomenally lucky in the early years of the war: to a large extent the Nazi war machine before 1940 was strong but hollow shell. A bit more resistance and it could have crumbled to dust.
[1] All lost at Munich, which made Hitler's subsequent invasion of the rump Czech state in March 1939 a pushover.
I wouldn't disagree with much of that, Mr. rpjs, particularly how astonishingly lucky the Germans were in the Battle of France (in betting terms I think of it as a six race accumulator that actually came off). However, the Western Allies mindset was for a defensive war, there was no offensive capability.
I agree. I just feel if we'd had a just a bit more appetite for the offensive in 1938 - 40 the world would be a much different, perhaps better, place.
To be fair, it's not like we were champing at the bit to go on the offensive and were held back by French dilatoriness either. I do feel that if we (the western allies) had fought for the Czechs in 1938 or actually gone on the offensive while the Wehrmacht were busy in Poland, Hitler would be just a historical footnote today.
The UK was in no position to go to war in 1938 and in 1939 the situation was barely that much better. The idea that the UK and France could have conducted and offensive war against Germany in either year is laughable. There were not the troops, the aircraft, the logistics and, especially, not the mindset to do any such thing.
Perhaps there should have been but that is a different argument and one which should mostly be directed at Paris.
Ah, but neither was Germany in 1938. The OKW was terrified that the Sudeten Crisis would turn into a shooting war with the Czechs, who could have easily resisted an invasion with the state of the German forces in 1938 vs their defensible territory and border fortifications[1] long enough for the allies and/or the Soviets to get into gear and intervene.
To be fair, the OKW were pretty lukewarm at the prospect of attacking Poland, at least until the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact gave them the security Stalin wouldn't intervene on the Poles' side, and then attacking France and the low countries in 1940. Hitler really was phenomenally lucky in the early years of the war: to a large extent the Nazi war machine before 1940 was strong but hollow shell. A bit more resistance and it could have crumbled to dust.
[1] All lost at Munich, which made Hitler's subsequent invasion of the rump Czech state in March 1939 a pushover.
I wouldn't disagree with much of that, Mr. rpjs, particularly how astonishingly lucky the Germans were in the Battle of France (in betting terms I think of it as a six race accumulator that actually came off). However, the Western Allies mindset was for a defensive war, there was no offensive capability.
I agree. I just feel if we'd had a just a bit more appetite for the offensive in 1938 - 40 the world would be a much different, perhaps better, place.
The problem is that even if successful, the world would never fully know what horrors would have been avoided. The USA would probably have admonished the UK and France for 'imperialism' in a precursor to Suez.
Anyway, my eyes are going fuzzy, so I shall be off.
Just a reminder that the times are all in the afternoon/evening for F1 this weekend (and will be for the next couple of races after too, as they're in Mexico and Brazil).
Thanks to Mark Pack for this. If the LDs get 23.1% of the vote in Witney it is the best result in the seat this century. If they get 27.9% it is the best share of the vote in a Tory held bye-election since 2006. If they get 28.1% it is the best increase in the vote since 1993. Just shows how poor the resent record has been.
Thanks to Mark Pack for this. If the LDs get 23.1% of the vote in Witney it is the best result in the seat this century. If they get 27.9% it is the best share of the vote in a Tory held bye-election since 2006. If they get 28.1% it is the best increase in the vote since 1993. Just shows how poor the resent record has been.
Doesn't sound as though Dr Pack is preparing his audience for a Lib Dem victory.
If a political party wants to know who has voted (and the information can be useful, particularly if collected over a number of elections) they just inspect (or purchase a photocopy of) the marked register afterwards. Nowadays this shows who has and has not sent back their postal vote, as well. Telling data is simply too unreliable for this purpose, and of course doesn't help with postal votes.
Telling is supposed to save the bother (and potential for annoyance) of calling on people who have already voted, when time is precious on polling day. But increasingly, with email, phone and SMS reminders, it can be easier to bother everyone rather than putting people outside polling stations all day collecting numbers. The view appears to be that even those put out to be reminded to vote, when they already have, will have forgotten their annoyance by the time the next election comes round. Particularly if they are thanked nicely for their support.
''I wouldn't be at all sure of that. No reason to suppose that other EU voters don't at least share a similar mindset to the politicians they elect. ''
you may well be right. Plenty of exciting elections ahead for us to find out!
Such referendums as have been offered (e.g. on the European Constitution) suggest otherwise.
As recently as the 2010 election, UKIP only polled 3%. Indeed, it was only in 2012 that they took off. For all that Britain had long had a Eurosceptic attitude, to those only paying cursory attention, outright withdrawalism would have looked like a minority opinion.
They did not have a full slate of candidates in 2010. Had they fought every seat UKIP's vote share that year would have been more like 5%.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Offensive
"I think the point is that he does it all the time."
I suspect he does. But what does it lead to here. Any male politician in America can get the same treatment. If someone accused you of touching someone inappropriately at an outdoor event twenty years ago, what would be your defence? No one could back you up because no one would remember (unless it was blatant).
If the victim broke down in tears at the press conference (assuming you were famous, of course) it all seems ... opportunistic at best.
He may be a serial grope,r but this is getting silly now. It risks producing a bit of sympathy for him. Perhaps it's a GOP plot?
He wouldn't be allowed on the rugby club committee.
Steer. Well. Clear.
We voted not to leave in 1975. We joined in 1971/2.
NARSE 48%
Are those phenomena good, or bad things ?
Of course, he has been caught admitting that he does that sort of thing. That and him dismissing it as 'locker room talk' means he has no real defence aside from calling his victims too ugly to abuse.
So, i very much doubt people in general will give him the benefit of the doubt or sympathy.
What you cannot pick is 1975.
Clinton 45 .. Trump 45
http://www.suffolk.edu/documents/SUPRC/10_20_2016_marginals.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_enlargement_of_the_European_Communities#Background
“To me, the difference between a mathematician and non-mathematician is that the former keeps going and makes mistakes until they come up with a solution while the latter consider themselves failures if they make an error or are beaten by the clock.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/stem-awards/stem-hq/the-beauty-of-maths/?WT.mc_id=tmgspk_plrprt_1503_AmqG5s1lt9r4&utm_source=tmgspk&utm_medium=plrprt&utm_content=1503&utm_campaign=tmgspk_plrprt_1503_AmqG5s1lt9r4&plr=1#!/
Put a popular local Lib Dem up against an unknown Brexiteering Conservative, when the mood music coming from Westminster is "hard Brexit" and "dental tests for child refugees", and you can see that there are grounds for some sort of swing.
Bear in mind too that the rural areas of the constituency have not done well out of the Conservative-controlled County Council cuts recently, and that the plans to build thousands of new houses to cope with Oxford's overspill are not very popular either.
I'm not confident enough to call tonight's percentages (though Robert's numbers look plausible to me) but I think it's pretty unarguable that they will be less Tory than the seat was at GE2015.
Is Donald Trump pretending to be mad because this is all just a publicity stunt and he doesn't want to be POTUS?
Discuss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV2nIkqnGBI
http://order-order.com/2016/10/20/cleggs-single-market-delusion/
To be fair, the OKW were pretty lukewarm at the prospect of attacking Poland, at least until the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact gave them the security Stalin wouldn't intervene on the Poles' side, and then attacking France and the low countries in 1940. Hitler really was phenomenally lucky in the early years of the war: to a large extent the Nazi war machine before 1940 was strong but hollow shell. A bit more resistance and it could have crumbled to dust.
[1] All lost at Munich, which made Hitler's subsequent invasion of the rump Czech state in March 1939 a pushover.
But - shudder - that all went wrong. I mean right. I mean wrong.
Springtime - for Donald - and Vladimir.
Winter for Clinton and all.
Springtime - for Trump and - Melania.
And now let's build a great HYUGE wall.
Brilliant? Or insane?
https://icitizen.com/insights/tennessee-poll-results-october-2016-election/
Clinton 53 .. Trump 41
http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/212560344-story
He's also writing a graphic novel. About Hannibal. I imagine it will be the first graphic novel I buy.
I don't think he actually cares deep down about roe v wade, about building walls and banning muslims, that's all just red meat for his supporters. His sexist views on women are genuine though, and that's why it has cut through with potential supporters I think.
He's not just unfit to President, he's unfit to even lead the populist anti-globalist/far-right movement, he's not credible like Farage or Le Pen, not serious, and only believes in himself.
So i'll go with genuinely mad, a complete narcissist who will certainly call foul play, and probably incite violence, when/if he loses on november 8th.
Much depends on our tailenders tomorrow morning.
Tu prends des risques
Il se suicide
Lindy Beige is into classical as well as medieval and modern history, so there's often lots of very interesting stuff on his channel.
The buggers must all be lurking here.
Weird is when a young lady slaps someone in public with a fish, whilst wearing a badge that has "I *heartsymbol* PB" on it.
That was bloody odd.
Clinton 41 .. Trump 41
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/5a280d25318f2afe3f311adb6/files/AZ_Statewide_LivePoll_Questionnaire_10_18.pdf
Just a reminder that the times are all in the afternoon/evening for F1 this weekend (and will be for the next couple of races after too, as they're in Mexico and Brazil).
Vice-President Gore, as President of the Senate, was the man who actually certified the result.
Clinton 47 .. Trump 35
https://luc.id/2016-presidential-tracker/
Clinton 52 .. Trump 42 .. Others 6
If a political party wants to know who has voted (and the information can be useful, particularly if collected over a number of elections) they just inspect (or purchase a photocopy of) the marked register afterwards. Nowadays this shows who has and has not sent back their postal vote, as well. Telling data is simply too unreliable for this purpose, and of course doesn't help with postal votes.
Telling is supposed to save the bother (and potential for annoyance) of calling on people who have already voted, when time is precious on polling day. But increasingly, with email, phone and SMS reminders, it can be easier to bother everyone rather than putting people outside polling stations all day collecting numbers. The view appears to be that even those put out to be reminded to vote, when they already have, will have forgotten their annoyance by the time the next election comes round. Particularly if they are thanked nicely for their support.