It's a Friday - and EdM has been tweeting. Perhaps he really shouldn't.
Kulgan of Crydee @KulganofCrydee @GuidoFawkes Did you just see @Ed_Miliband tweeting incorrect details about one of our fallen #Furious #DrummerLeeRigby NOT Fusilier
That reminds me of a bizarre prolier-than-thou discussion on PB a while back where someone said 'roast beef' and another went 'jam and bread' and much name calling ensued...
This little piggy went to Barnet, This little piggy stayed at home, This little piggy claimed vast sums, This little piggy claimed none. And this little piggy went... "Wee wee wee" all the way to Con home...
A recovering Labour Party should win back Brighton, but I suppose it depends how good Caroline Lucas is as an MP - If she's a very good local MP and isn't just using her position to bang on about all the dreary issue's that interest her, then incumbancy could see her hanging on. Maybe.
One thing that schools can, and should, do is have breakfasts available (not just a croissant but a full english - for me anyway ). This, combined with teachers being available to offer advice, help with work etc. helps both nutritional and academic standards. 9am Breakfast / advice and lessons starting at 10am (teenagers work best with a later start) and finishing lessons at 4pm with sport and extra-curricular until it gets dark.
Most of all allow individual schools to experiment with their timetable / school day to see what works best for them.
Now really back to the Ashes.
Right, so now you're arguing that although parents don't provide a breakfast when they are responsible for the children the school should step in, but when the school is in loco parentis the same parents should be responsible for providing a nutritious lunch.
Yes. You seem to be having a lot of trouble with this concept of a school providing a service rather than forcing parents down a particular route.
Hardly surprising from someone who believes the state can do no wrong and that the individual is always to be treated with suspicion and distrust.
It's a Friday - and EdM has been tweeting. Perhaps he really shouldn't.
Kulgan of Crydee @KulganofCrydee @GuidoFawkes Did you just see @Ed_Miliband tweeting incorrect details about one of our fallen #Furious #DrummerLeeRigby NOT Fusilier
Surely both are correct? The BBC uses Fusilier.
It's just the usual suspects trying to use the horrible murder of Lee Rigby to have a pop at Ed Miliband. Par for the course really.
One thing that schools can, and should, do is have breakfasts available (not just a croissant but a full english - for me anyway ). This, combined with teachers being available to offer advice, help with work etc. helps both nutritional and academic standards. 9am Breakfast / advice and lessons starting at 10am (teenagers work best with a later start) and finishing lessons at 4pm with sport and extra-curricular until it gets dark.
Most of all allow individual schools to experiment with their timetable / school day to see what works best for them.
Now really back to the Ashes.
Right, so now you're arguing that although parents don't provide a breakfast when they are responsible for the children the school should step in, but when the school is in loco parentis the same parents should be responsible for providing a nutritious lunch.
Where you wish diktat I'm advocating choice and seeking a solution to a problem that makes life better for students and staff.
Jim Pickard @PickardJE Downing St messaging all over the place: don't want to interfere in cigarettes/alcohol any more but getting tough on packed lunches
When is the packed lunch ban bill coming to the HoC tim ?
It's a Friday - and EdM has been tweeting. Perhaps he really shouldn't.
Kulgan of Crydee @KulganofCrydee @GuidoFawkes Did you just see @Ed_Miliband tweeting incorrect details about one of our fallen #Furious #DrummerLeeRigby NOT Fusilier
Surely both are correct? The BBC uses Fusilier.
It's just the usual suspects trying to use the horrible murder of Lee Rigby to have a pop at Ed Miliband. Par for the course really.
It's a bit like the usual suspect (singular) having a pop at Camerion over the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
Or using child sex abuse to blanket-slur Conservatives.
OT -- another wrongly imprisoned person denied compensation. Today Lorraine Allen. Last week, Barry George. This is the sort of thing that annoys people because it seems unfair. It is seen as the Establishment closing ranks at the expense of ordinary people.
"Most political journalists think MPs should be paid much more than they are. But that is not a view shared by newsdesks and voters"
I expect the view of political journalists on this subject is closely allied to their idea of what political journalists should be paid.
I disagree - I'd assume that lobby hacks are more aware than anyone of the crap MPs have to put up with and are therefore more sympathetic to them.
Using your logic - business reporters would be paid more than lobby reporters - is there any evidence for this?
Most reporters are paid a lot less than most people think. The competition for jobs is huge, with many people prepared to take very low wages in order to get a start, and most newspapers operate at a loss. If you get to be a columnist on a big-selling title then you have a chance of big wedge, just as you do if you can if you specialise and build a great list of contacts. But most hacks are not rolling in cash - which is probably why they like their freebies so much!
Salmond overdosing on his new "winning" phrase "parcel o rogues"
At least the SNP government seem to be able to run a piss-up in a brewery, aka live streaming. Remarkable lack of comment on Darling's wee bit of speechifying yesterday; was it because it was long winded, clichéd rubbish, or that no-one was actually able to listen to it?
It's a Friday - and EdM has been tweeting. Perhaps he really shouldn't.
Kulgan of Crydee @KulganofCrydee @GuidoFawkes Did you just see @Ed_Miliband tweeting incorrect details about one of our fallen #Furious #DrummerLeeRigby NOT Fusilier
Surely both are correct? The BBC uses Fusilier.
It's just the usual suspects trying to use the horrible murder of Lee Rigby to have a pop at Ed Miliband. Par for the course really.
It's a bit like the usual suspect (singular) having a pop at Camerion over the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
Or using child sex abuse to blanket-slur Conservatives.
It's a bit sick, isn't it?
No, given what happened to Lee Rigby I'd say it's a lot worse. And the usual suspects I was referring to were Guido and his mates.
Watching Sky Sports coverage of the Ashes gives me an idea. They have a "revometer" to measure the degree of spin a bowler puts on a ball. Perhaps we could use it here to measure the spin of some of our posters.
Salmond overdosing on his new "winning" phrase "parcel o rogues"
At least the SNP government seem to be able to run a piss-up in a brewery, aka live streaming. Remarkable lack of comment on Darling's wee bit of speechifying yesterday; was it because it was long winded, clichéd rubbish, or that no-one was actually able to listen to it?
What do you think of his cherry picking "5 unions" idea - can't see rUk agreeing to the currency one for a start - defence maybe - depends how much £ Scotland offers.
As for "social union" - what does that mean anyway ?
At my primary school we might have shavings of beef, lamb or pork; vegetables that had been boiled thoroughly till grey; warm milk, with a disgusting skin on top of it; curry that probably contained cat or dog; semolina; rice pudding; thick custard, and equally revolting things. The local pig farmer used to collect the leftovers, and he never went short. I never regretted having a packed lunch instead.
Luxury lad, luxury ....
When I were a lad we had dripping sarnies without the bread and a thin measure of clear soup disguised as warm rain water - on a good day.
It's a Friday - and EdM has been tweeting. Perhaps he really shouldn't.
Kulgan of Crydee @KulganofCrydee @GuidoFawkes Did you just see @Ed_Miliband tweeting incorrect details about one of our fallen #Furious #DrummerLeeRigby NOT Fusilier
Surely both are correct? The BBC uses Fusilier.
It's just the usual suspects trying to use the horrible murder of Lee Rigby to have a pop at Ed Miliband. Par for the course really.
It's a bit like the usual suspect (singular) having a pop at Camerion over the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
Or using child sex abuse to blanket-slur Conservatives.
It's a bit sick, isn't it?
Feel free to explain why you think Cameron singled out Madeleine McCann above other missing children, in the week the Sun bought the book rights.
Explain why any politician reacts in such a manner. That does not make it the wrong thing to do.
Remember "a good day to bury bad news" ?
And it looks as if he did the right thing, if recent events are anything to go by.
Why the F does anyone have to comment when England's batsmen are doing well? DavidL and Grandiose please learn your lesson. You are both responsible.
Seeing Bell walk out at a time like this is deeply unpleasant. Just for once it wouldn't it be a thing if he performed against the Australians when England really needed him to?
What do you think of his cherry picking "5 unions" idea - can't see rUk agreeing to the currency one for a start - defence maybe - depends how much £ Scotland offers.
As for "social union" - what does that mean anyway ?
Negotiation, negotiation, negotiation.
Social Union is as meaningful, or meaningless, as Big Society and Bettertogether.
Edit: and considerably more meaningful than One Nation.
BBC News England @BBCEngland 46m @KulganofCrydee We are using the title Fusilier following a request from the Army
Now if you want to direct your ire at the ignorant posters trying to use Rigby's murder to attack Miliband then go ahead. I suspect you're too hypocritical though and will carry on with your pathetic trailing of my posts.
What they said was wrong.
Are you willing to admit that you were wrong over McCann and the way you used sex abuse slurs against the Conservatives?
Why the F does anyone have to comment when England's batsmen are doing well? DavidL and Grandiose please learn your lesson. You are both responsible.
Seeing Bell walk out at a time like this is deeply unpleasant. Just for once it wouldn't it be a thing if he performed against the Australians when England really needed him to?
Just for once it wouldn't it be a thing if he performed against the Australians when England really needed him to?
Don't hold your breath. When really needed he leaves it to someone else. Helps himself when there's less pressure. Just goes to show you averages aren't everything.
Why the F does anyone have to comment when England's batsmen are doing well? DavidL and Grandiose please learn your lesson. You are both responsible.
Seeing Bell walk out at a time like this is deeply unpleasant. Just for once it wouldn't it be a thing if he performed against the Australians when England really needed him to?
I am very, very, sorry.
It's too late for sorry. You have cost England the Ashes.
Why the F does anyone have to comment when England's batsmen are doing well? DavidL and Grandiose please learn your lesson. You are both responsible.
Seeing Bell walk out at a time like this is deeply unpleasant. Just for once it wouldn't it be a thing if he performed against the Australians when England really needed him to?
I am very, very, sorry.
It's too late for sorry. You have cost England the Ashes.
I have only one thing to say: look how brilliantly Australia are doing - restricting the run rate, taking lots of wickets - surely they'll have this wrapped up by lunch!!
"We will be part of a currency union with the rest of the UK – but we will finally have the full taxation powers we need to promote jobs and investment."
BBC News England @BBCEngland 46m @KulganofCrydee We are using the title Fusilier following a request from the Army
Now if you want to direct your ire at the ignorant posters trying to use Rigby's murder to attack Miliband then go ahead. I suspect you're too hypocritical though and will carry on with your pathetic trailing of my posts.
What they said was wrong.
Are you willing to admit that you were wrong over McCann and the way you used sex abuse slurs against the Conservatives?
No?
Absolutely not wrong about the McCann case, and why Cameron couldn't remember anything about it at Leveson. Didn't use any sex abuse slurs, the arrests have just started in the case you are confusing with the N.Wales case anyhow.And posters on here, again the super-ignorant ones attacked Tom Watson in their confusion between the two cases.
As for the poster on here using Rigby's death to attack Miliband, anything to say, over and over again for weeks if you're not being hypocritical
You were absolutely wrong about the McCann case. As usual, you let your utter hatred for Cameron get in the way of sound judgement.
And it is not just Cameron - who can forget the way you claimed that Osborne crying at a funeral "would set the media narrative"?
As for the sex abuse: people are innocent until proven guilty. Saying "just you wait!" goes rather against that, and is a pathetic slur. The McAlpine case should have tempered people. Sadly it did not.
But enough of this. I'm off for a bike ride. Enjoy yourselves!
Sounds to all the world like Devomax to me - not "Independence"
20 countries can share a currency in Europe, I am quite sure even the MOD black ops team (Faslane Division) can see the benefits of a shared currency but separate taxation systems so England gets what it puts in and Scotland gets what it puts in.
Westminster and the MOD got away with annexing across the maritime border in 1999 late at night with no media coverage, but they went a step too far this time and the silence on the idea if not the action now is deafening. How dare London thinks it can treat Scotland as a colony.
What do you mean it has been since 1707 as part of Greater Englandshire, and to quote the one Tory MP in Scotland it is "extinguished"?
Does anyone really believe Downing Street's hurried denials after darling's panicky phone call. AFTER they got caught, AFTER the Guardian of all people arked up and they had to drop it?
Had they not done so does anyone doubt it would have been the default policy of the MOD, those chappies who care so much about defence in Scotland they shut the bases, reneged on repositioning troops from Germany, removed the planes and decimated the regiments? Track record of self interest and a denial from Cameron makes no difference.
We know the plan and so do they.
Major Salmond speech not covered by beeb today on telly, funny that.
Why the F does anyone have to comment when England's batsmen are doing well? DavidL and Grandiose please learn your lesson. You are both responsible.
Seeing Bell walk out at a time like this is deeply unpleasant. Just for once it wouldn't it be a thing if he performed against the Australians when England really needed him to?
I am very, very, sorry.
It's too late for sorry. You have cost England the Ashes.
I have only one thing to say: look how brilliantly Australia are doing - restricting the run rate, taking lots of wickets - surely they'll have this wrapped up by lunch!!
Sounds to all the world like Devomax to me - not "Independence"
20 countries can share a currency in Europe, I am quite sure even the MOD black ops team (Faslane Division) can see the benefits of a shared currency but separate taxation systems so England gets what it puts in and Scotland gets what it puts in.
Westminster and the MOD got away with annexing across the maritime border in 1999 late at night with no media coverage, but they went a step too far this time and the silence on the idea if not the action now is deafening. How dare London thinks it can treat Scotland as a colony.
What do you mean it has been since 1707 as part of Greater Englandshire, and to quote the one Tory MP in Scotland it is "extinguished"?
Does anyone really believe Downing Street's hurried denials after darling's panicky phone call. AFTER they got caught, AFTER the Guardian of all people arked up and they had to drop it?
Had they not done so does anyone doubt it would have been the default policy of the MOD, those chappies who care so much about defence in Scotland they shut the bases, reneged on repositioning troops from Germany, removed the planes and decimated the regiments? Track record of self interest and a denial from Cameron makes no difference.
We know the plan and so do they.
Major Salmond speech not covered by beeb today on telly, funny that.
That just shows the confusion of the Nat position, if England is so evil why would you want to be in any kind of Union with them, currency or otherwise ? If Scots want to be independent they should have the courage of their convictions and do it properly.
Now here's a nice opportunity for Ed M to show he's not the creature of the unions, AND (even more important) get kudos from tim: Unreservedly support Jeremy Hunt on Trafford General Hospital, rather than pretend to agree with this campaign:
OT Sometimes I do wonder at interwebby rage - this is a perfect example of it. This is a rather cute little twitter feed with several pix a day of a cat supposedly musing on life, sadly. And someone got angry about it. And then promptly fell into the trap of correcting someone's grammar and misspelling it... http://littlecatdiaries.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/man-picks-completely-pointless-fight.html
"Skitt’s Law is a comment on the pedantry of some internet users.
”Any post correcting an error in another post will contain at least one error itself or more generally. The likelihood of an error in a post is directly proportional to the embarrassment it will cause the poster."
Basically, people who try to issue corrections (particularly spelling and grammar) are likely to commit the same offense themselves, usually in the actual post where they're making the correction. In a malicious sense, this is a declaration of hypocrisy, in a less malicious sense, it's just Murphy's Law - that if you're going to correct someone's typo, this will be that one, inconvenient and embarrassing time you actually make a typo yourself.
It derives from the user "Skitt" on alt.usage.english, mentioned first in a message back in 1999.[6] It then got out into the wild following the three billionth time the thing about "ignoramii" not being a real word cropped up on the internet. Skitt's Law also has a guise in "McKean's Law," named after Erin McKean, which focuses entirely on spelling or grammatical issues: "Any correction of the speech or writing of others will contain at least one grammatical, spelling, or typographical error."[7]
Observational evidence of Skitt’s Law leads to the following corollary: “”No matter how carefully or how many times you read your post, you will not notice at least one spelling or grammatical error until after you click submit.
Anyone who has published a book, submitted a dissertation or thesis, or had work printed in a peer reviewed journal will be well aware of this. "
As expected, Adam Price is selected by Plaid in Carmarthen East and Dinefwr (Welsh Assembly version). The sitting AM will retire in 2016. PC enjoyed a nice 14.9% majority in 2011. Price represented the area at Westminster between 2001 and 2010.
Interesting that even mentioning a "sporting event" seems to jeopardise the preferred outcome. We know it's silly but it's supposedly an evolutionary trait that has survived. Like associating rotten fruit with sickness. The ability to link two events and associate (learn) from them had a survival advantage, so we do it even when we don't even believe it anymore.
Possibly the fear of foreigners (or anyone strange i.e. not in the same tribe) is a deep-seated survival instinct. Looking back over history, you can see where it may have originated from.
Although I admit to knowing little about the "arty" subjects like sociology or psychology. I remember seeing a bit of graffiti above the toilet roll at University. It read "Social Sciences degree, please take one".
Still, I expect one of the expert on here will put me right.
michael burke @menburke 2h ONS: #Construction is lower now even than in 2008/09 http://bit.ly/1dm5mJI When Osborne says housing is recovering, he means higher prices
The usual suspects appear to have missed the construction data, as they did the manufacturing and export announcements. Good at cheering on a bubble though.
"Good at cheering on a bubble though"
everybody got so much practice between 1997 and 2010, it's a hard habit to break.
michael burke @menburke 2h ONS: #Construction is lower now even than in 2008/09 http://bit.ly/1dm5mJI When Osborne says housing is recovering, he means higher prices
The usual suspects appear to have missed the construction data, as they did the manufacturing and export announcements. Good at cheering on bubble though.
Not unlike your ability to miss every single good piece of economic news. A coincidence I'm sure. You are in absolutely no position to accuse others of being selective.
I get the very strong impression that economics isn't exactly your strong point.
Are you finally waking up to the fact that Camerons pledge on District Generals was mad and cost billions? And that Lansley halting reconfiguration in London was similarly stupid?
Actually, Andrew Lansley was quite sensible on this. He called for a temporary moratorium to give time to evaluate proposals:
This moratorium will provide a chance to reset every proposal, to reconsider every decision and to ensure that in each case they are consistent with the following key criteria.
First, there must be clarity about the clinical evidence base underpinning the proposals. Second, they must have the support of the GP commissioners involved. Third, they must genuinely promote choice for their patients. Fourth, the process must have genuinely engaged the public, patients and local authorities.
But, yes, politicians interfere too much. That is true of all parties. My complaint is not that you criticise Cameron on this (you are right), but that you don't seem to realise that Labour politicians do exactly the same.
Sounds to all the world like Devomax to me - not "Independence"
20 countries can share a currency in Europe, I am quite sure even the MOD black ops team (Faslane Division) can see the benefits of a shared currency but separate taxation systems so England gets what it puts in and Scotland gets what it puts in.
Westminster and the MOD got away with annexing across the maritime border in 1999 late at night with no media coverage, but they went a step too far this time and the silence on the idea if not the action now is deafening. How dare London thinks it can treat Scotland as a colony.
What do you mean it has been since 1707 as part of Greater Englandshire, and to quote the one Tory MP in Scotland it is "extinguished"?
Does anyone really believe Downing Street's hurried denials after darling's panicky phone call. AFTER they got caught, AFTER the Guardian of all people arked up and they had to drop it?
Had they not done so does anyone doubt it would have been the default policy of the MOD, those chappies who care so much about defence in Scotland they shut the bases, reneged on repositioning troops from Germany, removed the planes and decimated the regiments? Track record of self interest and a denial from Cameron makes no difference.
We know the plan and so do they.
Major Salmond speech not covered by beeb today on telly, funny that.
That just shows the confusion of the Nat position, if England is so evil why would you want to be in any kind of Union with them, currency or otherwise ? If Scots want to be independent they should have the courage of their convictions and do it properly.
The 'Political Union is not working' - "policies like the punitive Bedroom Tax, the renewal of Trident or Royal Mail privatisation imposed on Scotland ..."
Sounds to all the world like Devomax to me - not "Independence"
20 countries can share a currency in Europe, I am quite sure even the MOD black ops team (Faslane Division) can see the benefits of a shared currency but separate taxation systems so England gets what it puts in and Scotland gets what it puts in.
Westminster and the MOD got away with annexing across the maritime border in 1999 late at night with no media coverage, but they went a step too far this time and the silence on the idea if not the action now is deafening. How dare London thinks it can treat Scotland as a colony.
What do you mean it has been since 1707 as part of Greater Englandshire, and to quote the one Tory MP in Scotland it is "extinguished"?
Does anyone really believe Downing Street's hurried denials after darling's panicky phone call. AFTER they got caught, AFTER the Guardian of all people arked up and they had to drop it?
Had they not done so does anyone doubt it would have been the default policy of the MOD, those chappies who care so much about defence in Scotland they shut the bases, reneged on repositioning troops from Germany, removed the planes and decimated the regiments? Track record of self interest and a denial from Cameron makes no difference.
We know the plan and so do they.
Major Salmond speech not covered by beeb today on telly, funny that.
That just shows the confusion of the Nat position, if England is so evil why would you want to be in any kind of Union with them, currency or otherwise ? If Scots want to be independent they should have the courage of their convictions and do it properly.
The 'Political Union is not working' - "policies like the punitive Bedroom Tax, the renewal of Trident or Royal Mail privatisation imposed on Scotland ..."
No 'negative campaigning' here!
Well the whole campaign has been pretty dire, Eck's Parcel of Frogs gambit is just the latest in a pretty poor show. So far his arguments amount to anyone who isn't him is a twat who hates Scotland, interesting to watch but hardly the basis of a nation.
michael burke @menburke 2h ONS: #Construction is lower now even than in 2008/09 http://bit.ly/1dm5mJI When Osborne says housing is recovering, he means higher prices
The usual suspects appear to have missed the construction data, as they did the manufacturing and export announcements. Good at cheering on bubble though.
Not unlike your ability to miss every single good piece of economic news. A coincidence I'm sure. You are in absolutely no position to accuse others of being selective.
I get the very strong impression that economics isn't exactly your strong point.
I haven't ignored the house price rises that you have been cheering as good news, I don't see them as good news, but I certainly haven't been ignoring them
Do you want me to post more about Osbornes taxpayer subsidised housing bubble that you see as good news then, just in case you miss it?
You will not find a quote where I 'cheer on house price rises'. So stop making things up. Although I know that is your modus operandi. Particularly on subjects where you are out of your depth.
Perhaps you should stick to wittering on about fops and posting pictures of the Chancellor out jogging. It's a bit less complex than learning about economics.
Sounds to all the world like Devomax to me - not "Independence"
20 countries can share a currency in Europe, I am quite sure even the MOD black ops team (Faslane Division) can see the benefits of a shared currency but separate taxation systems so England gets what it puts in and Scotland gets what it puts in.
Westminster and the MOD got away with annexing across the maritime border in 1999 late at night with no media coverage, but they went a step too far this time and the silence on the idea if not the action now is deafening. How dare London thinks it can treat Scotland as a colony.
What do you mean it has been since 1707 as part of Greater Englandshire, and to quote the one Tory MP in Scotland it is "extinguished"?
Does anyone really believe Downing Street's hurried denials after darling's panicky phone call. AFTER they got caught, AFTER the Guardian of all people arked up and they had to drop it?
Had they not done so does anyone doubt it would have been the default policy of the MOD, those chappies who care so much about defence in Scotland they shut the bases, reneged on repositioning troops from Germany, removed the planes and decimated the regiments? Track record of self interest and a denial from Cameron makes no difference.
We know the plan and so do they.
Major Salmond speech not covered by beeb today on telly, funny that.
That just shows the confusion of the Nat position, if England is so evil why would you want to be in any kind of Union with them, currency or otherwise ? If Scots want to be independent they should have the courage of their convictions and do it properly.
The 'Political Union is not working' - "policies like the punitive Bedroom Tax, the renewal of Trident or Royal Mail privatisation imposed on Scotland ..."
No 'negative campaigning' here!
interesting to watch but hardly the basis of a nation.
It's not exactly 'Give me Liberty or Give Me Death!' is it.....
Plato, if that uis true about AW then it is very sad news.He was a massive influence in my early career as a documentary maker, we rattled around the globe together for a couple of decades and I shot over thirty of his programmes/series. An Icon
Sounds to all the world like Devomax to me - not "Independence"
20 countries can share a currency in Europe, I am quite sure even the MOD black ops team (Faslane Division) can see the benefits of a shared currency but separate taxation systems so England gets what it puts in and Scotland gets what it puts in.
Westminster and the MOD got away with annexing across the maritime border in 1999 late at night with no media coverage, but they went a step too far this time and the silence on the idea if not the action now is deafening. How dare London thinks it can treat Scotland as a colony.
What do you mean it has been since 1707 as part of Greater Englandshire, and to quote the one Tory MP in Scotland it is "extinguished"?
Does anyone really believe Downing Street's hurried denials after darling's panicky phone call. AFTER they got caught, AFTER the Guardian of all people arked up and they had to drop it?
Had they not done so does anyone doubt it would have been the default policy of the MOD, those chappies who care so much about defence in Scotland they shut the bases, reneged on repositioning troops from Germany, removed the planes and decimated the regiments? Track record of self interest and a denial from Cameron makes no difference.
We know the plan and so do they.
Major Salmond speech not covered by beeb today on telly, funny that.
That just shows the confusion of the Nat position, if England is so evil why would you want to be in any kind of Union with them, currency or otherwise ? If Scots want to be independent they should have the courage of their convictions and do it properly.
The 'Political Union is not working' - "policies like the punitive Bedroom Tax, the renewal of Trident or Royal Mail privatisation imposed on Scotland ..."
No 'negative campaigning' here!
interesting to watch but hardly the basis of a nation.
It's not exactly 'Give me Liberty or Give Me Death!' is it.....
It's more give me liberty, but I want my pension guaranteed and you'll promise you still defend us and all our guys can go off and work in your country if they want to and you'll still broadcast Coronation St. and I don't want to have to use the Euro and ........... etc. etc.
He has scored almost 6000 runs at an average of 45.6 in tests.
Compare that with some other randomly chosen English batsmen:
Gower: 8321 at 44.2 Edrich: 5138 at 43.5 Vaughan 5719 at 41.4 Hussain 5764 at 37.8 Trescothick 5825 at 43.8 Thorpe 6744 at 44.7 Strauss 7037 at 40.9 Gooch 8900 at 42.6
Why Bell gets so much flack is entirely mystifying to me.
I will stick up for him anytime even if simply by posting i can guarantee his dismissal within minutes...
Aside from the i, which now has an average daily circulation of 303,009 (up 11.16 per cent year on year), the next best performers were The Times (down 2.29 per cent year on year to 390,941) and Daily Mirror (down 3.94 per cent year on year to 1,038,753). The i circulation includes 65,003 bulk copies.
Looking at the month on month comparisons, nine national titles increased their sale in June.
Dailies
Name of title: average circulation, year-on-year change, month-on-month change
Daily Mirror: 1,038,753, down 3.94 per cent, down 0.24 per cent
Daily Record: 252,626, down 9.56 per cent, down 1.02 per cent
Daily Star: 540,849, down 10.2 per cent, up 1.13 per cent
The Sun: 2,243,903, down 13.15 per cent, down 1.12 per cent
Daily Express: 522,264, down 13.31 per cent, down 0.57 per cent
Daily Mail: 1,806,569, down 6.86 per cent, up 1.06 per cent
The Daily Telegraph: 547,106, down 4.63 per cent, up 0.28 per cent
Financial Times: 258,488, down 13.03 per cent, up 0.71 per cent
The Guardian: 187,000, down 11.59 per cent, down 2.79 per cent
i: 303,009, up 11.16 per cent, down 1.16 per cent
The Independent: 73,060, down 18.82 per cent, down 2.7 per cent
The Times: 390,941, down 2.29 per cent, down 1.02 per cent
Sundays
Name of title: average circulation, year-on-year change, month-on-month change
Daily Star Sunday: 335,864, down 29.05 per cent, up 1.88 per cent
The Sun (Sunday):1,875,220, down 14.37 per cent, up 0.39 per cent
Sunday Mail: 284,051, down 9.45 per cent, down 1.62 per cent
Sunday Mirror:1,036,542, down 4.68 per cent, up 0.81 per cent
Sunday People: 415,075, down 7.78 per cent, down 0.11 per cent
Sunday Express:455,901, down 11.10 per cent, down 1.49 per cent
Sunday Post: 244,257, down 12.49 per cent, up 5.10 per cent
The Mail on Sunday: 1,638,049, down 10.21 per cent, down 2.5 per cent
Independent on Sunday: 111,986 down 8.65 per cent, down 0.97 per cent
The Observer: 212,376, down 12.94 per cent, down 4.65 per cent
The Sunday Telegraph: 422,590, down 6.15 per cent, up 0.44 per cent
The Sunday Times: 840,201, down 8.27 per cent, down 0.31 per cent
Plato, if that uis true about AW then it is very sad news.He was a massive influence in my early career as a documentary maker, we rattled around the globe together for a couple of decades and I shot over thirty of his programmes/series. An Icon
He was indeed. A very fine journalist. You must have had a great time. I wil raise a glass to him next week when I am in Hong Kong, which I always imagined was one of his spiritual homes: sundowners on the Peak, not a hair out of place. RIP.
SO..He was particularly fond of OZ ,one of his fave islands was Norfolk Island..weird place, but great fun. HK..It had to be The Peninsula..top floor for cocktails
He has scored almost 6000 runs at an average of 45.6 in tests.
Compare that with some other randomly chosen English batsmen:
Gower: 8321 at 44.2 Edrich: 5138 at 43.5 Vaughan 5719 at 41.4 Hussain 5764 at 37.8 Trescothick 5825 at 43.8 Thorpe 6744 at 44.7 Strauss 7037 at 40.9 Gooch 8900 at 42.6
Why Bell gets so much flack is entirely mystifying to me.
I will stick up for him anytime even if simply by posting i can guarantee his dismissal within minutes...
His average against Australia in this country is pretty dire.
I want Bell to be a success.
So when he retires Warwickshire name a stand after him and the ensuing mirth as commentators announce bowlers are bowling from the Bell End.
Now Dave's personal alcohol policy goes as well. Stupid policy Dave made his own.
Nick Sutton @suttonnick After #cigarette packaging and minimum alcohol pricing, @drwollastonmp tells @bbcshaunley on #wato it's a "very sad day for public health"
James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers Govt right to drop minimum alcohol pricing - political suicide in a cost of living election. Not so sure about plain cigarette packs
Suspect that being in the pocket of the tobacco companies is far more damaging.
A whole MP who wanted to go down the nanny state line - wooo good spot tim.
Will minimum pricing and plain packets be in the Labour manifesto ?
@tim - You're becoming a right old grump, snarling away, muttering semi-audible imprecations at passing posters gently going about their business.
I'd kind of sympathize but I'm too busy laughing. But caringly; be assured of that.
Rarely has PB witnessed such selfless hilarity in the service of the site.
No matter your location it has to be said that JohnO is beacon of decency to those Cheshire farmers in need of solace.
Mere mortal PBers may only bask in your not inconsiderable shadow.
He can be my other-half on the next sojourn to Bournemouth. Bit of sea-air will do him the power of good.
Indeed so. The power of the knotted hankie and a side saddle donkey ride combined with vigorous sand castle making and a 99 ice cream cornet is not to be underestimated.
I sometimes like to introduce myself to Labour party people as ‘the most right-wing person in the Labour party’. I’ve found it’s a very good way to avoid being invited to sit on committees, working groups or panels, which is my main aim in all interactions with Labour party activists and thinkers.
I’m not sure if I’m really the most right-wing person in the Labour party (though as Brian Clough said, I’m in the top one). Instead I think I’m in the minority of people on the left who don’t quietly regard being on the right as being evidence of some gaping internal moral chasm.
It’s not that I’m particularly right-wing which sets me apart, it’s that I don’t mind the idea of being thought right-wing...
Now Dave's personal alcohol policy goes as well. Stupid policy Dave made his own.
Nick Sutton @suttonnick After #cigarette packaging and minimum alcohol pricing, @drwollastonmp tells @bbcshaunley on #wato it's a "very sad day for public health"
James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers Govt right to drop minimum alcohol pricing - political suicide in a cost of living election. Not so sure about plain cigarette packs
Suspect that being in the pocket of the tobacco companies is far more damaging.
A whole MP who wanted to go down the nanny state line - wooo good spot tim.
Will minimum pricing and plain packets be in the Labour manifesto ?
Now Dave's personal alcohol policy goes as well. Stupid policy Dave made his own.
Nick Sutton @suttonnick After #cigarette packaging and minimum alcohol pricing, @drwollastonmp tells @bbcshaunley on #wato it's a "very sad day for public health"
James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers Govt right to drop minimum alcohol pricing - political suicide in a cost of living election. Not so sure about plain cigarette packs
Suspect that being in the pocket of the tobacco companies is far more damaging.
A whole MP who wanted to go down the nanny state line - wooo good spot tim.
Will minimum pricing and plain packets be in the Labour manifesto ?
Smokers are national benefactors.
They contribute more than their fair share in taxes and die earlier saving on pension costs.
Now Dave's personal alcohol policy goes as well. Stupid policy Dave made his own.
Nick Sutton @suttonnick After #cigarette packaging and minimum alcohol pricing, @drwollastonmp tells @bbcshaunley on #wato it's a "very sad day for public health"
James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers Govt right to drop minimum alcohol pricing - political suicide in a cost of living election. Not so sure about plain cigarette packs
Suspect that being in the pocket of the tobacco companies is far more damaging.
A whole MP who wanted to go down the nanny state line - wooo good spot tim.
Will minimum pricing and plain packets be in the Labour manifesto ?
You already live in a nanny state; if you doubt that why not go out shopping for an AK47 and a pint of laudanum? Let us know how you get on.
Other states are like that too, so a simpler way of saying "nanny state" is "state".
Now Dave's personal alcohol policy goes as well. Stupid policy Dave made his own.
Nick Sutton @suttonnick After #cigarette packaging and minimum alcohol pricing, @drwollastonmp tells @bbcshaunley on #wato it's a "very sad day for public health"
James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers Govt right to drop minimum alcohol pricing - political suicide in a cost of living election. Not so sure about plain cigarette packs
Suspect that being in the pocket of the tobacco companies is far more damaging.
A whole MP who wanted to go down the nanny state line - wooo good spot tim.
Will minimum pricing and plain packets be in the Labour manifesto ?
The thing which puzzles me about the fag packet issue is why it's not an EU-wide decision. This strikes me as one of those rare cases where it would make sense to decide at EU level, as it's a regulation affecting the single market and also has big implications for cross-border trade (and of course for smuggling as well).
Now Dave's personal alcohol policy goes as well. Stupid policy Dave made his own.
Nick Sutton @suttonnick After #cigarette packaging and minimum alcohol pricing, @drwollastonmp tells @bbcshaunley on #wato it's a "very sad day for public health"
James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers Govt right to drop minimum alcohol pricing - political suicide in a cost of living election. Not so sure about plain cigarette packs
Suspect that being in the pocket of the tobacco companies is far more damaging.
A whole MP who wanted to go down the nanny state line - wooo good spot tim.
Will minimum pricing and plain packets be in the Labour manifesto ?
Smokers are national benefactors.
They contribute more than their fair share in taxes and die earlier saving on pension costs.
martyrs to the nation's finances and they get no thanks for it.
"Will supporting cancer enducing products and excessive boozing be in the CON manifesto?"
Only in Bedford which is also to be made an Enterprise Zone for research into the merits of broccoli quiche and the health consequences of drinking hair tonic amongst bus pass holders in the town.
Now Dave's personal alcohol policy goes as well. Stupid policy Dave made his own.
Nick Sutton @suttonnick After #cigarette packaging and minimum alcohol pricing, @drwollastonmp tells @bbcshaunley on #wato it's a "very sad day for public health"
James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers Govt right to drop minimum alcohol pricing - political suicide in a cost of living election. Not so sure about plain cigarette packs
Suspect that being in the pocket of the tobacco companies is far more damaging.
A whole MP who wanted to go down the nanny state line - wooo good spot tim.
Will minimum pricing and plain packets be in the Labour manifesto ?
Smokers are national benefactors.
They contribute more than their fair share in taxes and die earlier saving on pension costs.
martyrs to the nation's finances and they get no thanks for it.
They're in the pocket of both tobacco companies and tobacco company linked lobbyists who they employ.
Now you are just being ridiculous, and quite possibly libellous. List the donations if you want to claim they are 'in the pocket of tobacco companies'.
As for Crosby, it is the most barmy smear since all that nonsense about Ashcroft. His company once did a job in Australia for the tobacco industry. So what?
North West Tonight @BBCNWT IPPC looking into Hillsborough evidence say they have identified another 55 officers who appear to have changed statements. @HJC_Official
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LAB 1,396 +8.8%
GRN 1,358 -14.6%
CON 275 -1.5%
UKIP 250 +7.1%
TUSC 172 +2.0%
LD 56 -1.9%
Hardly surprising from someone who believes the state can do no wrong and that the individual is always to be treated with suspicion and distrust.
"Most political journalists think MPs should be paid much more than they are. But that is not a view shared by newsdesks and voters"
I expect the view of political journalists on this subject is closely allied to their idea of what political journalists should be paid.
Using your logic - business reporters would be paid more than lobby reporters - is there any evidence for this?
"James Cook @BBCJamesCook 3m
Salmond: Scotland should keep five other unions: European Union, defence, currency, crowns and social union. #indyref"
What no UNITE ?
Ah yes - just after the unicorn gelding bill..
Or using child sex abuse to blanket-slur Conservatives.
It's a bit sick, isn't it?
As for "social union" - what does that mean anyway ?
Oh my word, what a curse this post proved to be.
When I were a lad we had dripping sarnies without the bread and a thin measure of clear soup disguised as warm rain water - on a good day.
And we were thankful ....
Remember "a good day to bury bad news" ?
And it looks as if he did the right thing, if recent events are anything to go by.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23179230
We had to make do with chewing the fungus that grew in a dilapidated toilet block.
Seeing Bell walk out at a time like this is deeply unpleasant. Just for once it wouldn't it be a thing if he performed against the Australians when England really needed him to?
Social Union is as meaningful, or meaningless, as Big Society and Bettertogether.
Edit: and considerably more meaningful than One Nation.
We might have only dreamed of such luxuries as we carried a cracked chamber pot behind the bushes !!!!
But we were happy ....
Are you willing to admit that you were wrong over McCann and the way you used sex abuse slurs against the Conservatives?
No?
Don't hold your breath. When really needed he leaves it to someone else. Helps himself when there's less pressure. Just goes to show you averages aren't everything.
Sounds to all the world like Devomax to me - not "Independence"
[fingers crossed]
http://news.scotland.gov.uk/News/Democracy-at-heart-of-independence-case-for-fundamental-change-to-political-and-economic-union-266.aspx
"We will be part of a currency union with the rest of the UK – but we will finally have the full taxation powers we need to promote jobs and investment."
But not borrowing......BoE says 'no'......
And it is not just Cameron - who can forget the way you claimed that Osborne crying at a funeral "would set the media narrative"?
As for the sex abuse: people are innocent until proven guilty. Saying "just you wait!" goes rather against that, and is a pathetic slur. The McAlpine case should have tempered people. Sadly it did not.
But enough of this. I'm off for a bike ride. Enjoy yourselves!
Westminster and the MOD got away with annexing across the maritime border in 1999 late at night with no media coverage, but they went a step too far this time and the silence on the idea if not the action now is deafening. How dare London thinks it can treat Scotland as a colony.
What do you mean it has been since 1707 as part of Greater Englandshire, and to quote the one Tory MP in Scotland it is "extinguished"?
Does anyone really believe Downing Street's hurried denials after darling's panicky phone call. AFTER they got caught, AFTER the Guardian of all people arked up and they had to drop it?
Had they not done so does anyone doubt it would have been the default policy of the MOD, those chappies who care so much about defence in Scotland they shut the bases, reneged on repositioning troops from Germany, removed the planes and decimated the regiments?
Track record of self interest and a denial from Cameron makes no difference.
We know the plan and so do they.
Major Salmond speech not covered by beeb today on telly, funny that.
If they are 'detritus' for using Rigby's tragic death, then what are you for using McCann's death, crying at funerals and child sex abuse?
http://savetraffordgeneral.com/
I'm not holding my breath...
I gather this is called Skitt's Law and we see it in action every other day on PB... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Internet_law
"Skitt’s Law is a comment on the pedantry of some internet users.
”Any post correcting an error in another post will contain at least one error itself or more generally. The likelihood of an error in a post is directly proportional to the embarrassment it will cause the poster."
Basically, people who try to issue corrections (particularly spelling and grammar) are likely to commit the same offense themselves, usually in the actual post where they're making the correction. In a malicious sense, this is a declaration of hypocrisy, in a less malicious sense, it's just Murphy's Law - that if you're going to correct someone's typo, this will be that one, inconvenient and embarrassing time you actually make a typo yourself.
It derives from the user "Skitt" on alt.usage.english, mentioned first in a message back in 1999.[6] It then got out into the wild following the three billionth time the thing about "ignoramii" not being a real word cropped up on the internet. Skitt's Law also has a guise in "McKean's Law," named after Erin McKean, which focuses entirely on spelling or grammatical issues: "Any correction of the speech or writing of others will contain at least one grammatical, spelling, or typographical error."[7]
Observational evidence of Skitt’s Law leads to the following corollary:
“”No matter how carefully or how many times you read your post, you will not notice at least one spelling or grammatical error until after you click submit.
Anyone who has published a book, submitted a dissertation or thesis, or had work printed in a peer reviewed journal will be well aware of this. "
Here he meets Papa Doc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO_fLp_j-wQ
Interesting that even mentioning a "sporting event" seems to jeopardise the preferred outcome. We know it's silly but it's supposedly an evolutionary trait that has survived. Like associating rotten fruit with sickness. The ability to link two events and associate (learn) from them had a survival advantage, so we do it even when we don't even believe it anymore.
Possibly the fear of foreigners (or anyone strange i.e. not in the same tribe) is a deep-seated survival instinct. Looking back over history, you can see where it may have originated from.
Although I admit to knowing little about the "arty" subjects like sociology or psychology. I remember seeing a bit of graffiti above the toilet roll at University. It read "Social Sciences degree, please take one".
Still, I expect one of the expert on here will put me right.
everybody got so much practice between 1997 and 2010, it's a hard habit to break.
Expect Ed to join in soon.
I get the very strong impression that economics isn't exactly your strong point.
This moratorium will provide a chance to reset every proposal, to reconsider every decision and to ensure that in each case they are consistent with the following key criteria.
First, there must be clarity about the clinical evidence base underpinning the proposals. Second, they must have the support of the GP commissioners involved. Third, they must genuinely promote choice for their patients. Fourth, the process must have genuinely engaged the public, patients and local authorities.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/7747870/The-NHS-must-put-patients-first.html
But, yes, politicians interfere too much. That is true of all parties. My complaint is not that you criticise Cameron on this (you are right), but that you don't seem to realise that Labour politicians do exactly the same.
No 'negative campaigning' here!
- didn't see the same complaints in 2001 and 2005 when the bubbles were real.
I'd kind of sympathize but I'm too busy laughing. But caringly; be assured of that.
Perhaps you should stick to wittering on about fops and posting pictures of the Chancellor out jogging. It's a bit less complex than learning about economics.
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No matter your location it has to be said that JohnO is beacon of decency to those Cheshire farmers in need of solace.
Mere mortal PBers may only bask in your not inconsiderable shadow.
He has scored almost 6000 runs at an average of 45.6 in tests.
Compare that with some other randomly chosen English batsmen:
Gower: 8321 at 44.2
Edrich: 5138 at 43.5
Vaughan 5719 at 41.4
Hussain 5764 at 37.8
Trescothick 5825 at 43.8
Thorpe 6744 at 44.7
Strauss 7037 at 40.9
Gooch 8900 at 42.6
Why Bell gets so much flack is entirely mystifying to me.
I will stick up for him anytime even if simply by posting i can guarantee his dismissal within minutes...
Aside from the i, which now has an average daily circulation of 303,009 (up 11.16 per cent year on year), the next best performers were The Times (down 2.29 per cent year on year to 390,941) and Daily Mirror (down 3.94 per cent year on year to 1,038,753). The i circulation includes 65,003 bulk copies.
Looking at the month on month comparisons, nine national titles increased their sale in June.
Dailies
Name of title: average circulation, year-on-year change, month-on-month change
Daily Mirror: 1,038,753, down 3.94 per cent, down 0.24 per cent
Daily Record: 252,626, down 9.56 per cent, down 1.02 per cent
Daily Star: 540,849, down 10.2 per cent, up 1.13 per cent
The Sun: 2,243,903, down 13.15 per cent, down 1.12 per cent
Daily Express: 522,264, down 13.31 per cent, down 0.57 per cent
Daily Mail: 1,806,569, down 6.86 per cent, up 1.06 per cent
The Daily Telegraph: 547,106, down 4.63 per cent, up 0.28 per cent
Financial Times: 258,488, down 13.03 per cent, up 0.71 per cent
The Guardian: 187,000, down 11.59 per cent, down 2.79 per cent
i: 303,009, up 11.16 per cent, down 1.16 per cent
The Independent: 73,060, down 18.82 per cent, down 2.7 per cent
The Times: 390,941, down 2.29 per cent, down 1.02 per cent
Sundays
Name of title: average circulation, year-on-year change, month-on-month change
Daily Star Sunday: 335,864, down 29.05 per cent, up 1.88 per cent
The Sun (Sunday):1,875,220, down 14.37 per cent, up 0.39 per cent
Sunday Mail: 284,051, down 9.45 per cent, down 1.62 per cent
Sunday Mirror:1,036,542, down 4.68 per cent, up 0.81 per cent
Sunday People: 415,075, down 7.78 per cent, down 0.11 per cent
Sunday Express:455,901, down 11.10 per cent, down 1.49 per cent
Sunday Post: 244,257, down 12.49 per cent, up 5.10 per cent
The Mail on Sunday: 1,638,049, down 10.21 per cent, down 2.5 per cent
Independent on Sunday: 111,986 down 8.65 per cent, down 0.97 per cent
The Observer: 212,376, down 12.94 per cent, down 4.65 per cent
The Sunday Telegraph: 422,590, down 6.15 per cent, up 0.44 per cent
The Sunday Times: 840,201, down 8.27 per cent, down 0.31 per cent
HK..It had to be The Peninsula..top floor for cocktails
Perhaps you should appoint yourself as tim's deputy in upholding standards of taste and decency on PB.
I want Bell to be a success.
So when he retires Warwickshire name a stand after him and the ensuing mirth as commentators announce bowlers are bowling from the Bell End.
Will minimum pricing and plain packets be in the Labour manifesto ?
I sometimes like to introduce myself to Labour party people as ‘the most right-wing person in the Labour party’. I’ve found it’s a very good way to avoid being invited to sit on committees, working groups or panels, which is my main aim in all interactions with Labour party activists and thinkers.
I’m not sure if I’m really the most right-wing person in the Labour party (though as Brian Clough said, I’m in the top one). Instead I think I’m in the minority of people on the left who don’t quietly regard being on the right as being evidence of some gaping internal moral chasm.
It’s not that I’m particularly right-wing which sets me apart, it’s that I don’t mind the idea of being thought right-wing...
Three cheers for CON MP Sarah Wollaston for speaking out against today's decisions.
George Osborne has got this one wrong - surprise surprise.
They contribute more than their fair share in taxes and die earlier saving on pension costs.
Other states are like that too, so a simpler way of saying "nanny state" is "state".
The operation of the EU is sometimes very odd.
"Will supporting cancer enducing products and excessive boozing be in the CON manifesto?"
Only in Bedford which is also to be made an Enterprise Zone for research into the merits of broccoli quiche and the health consequences of drinking hair tonic amongst bus pass holders in the town.
As for Crosby, it is the most barmy smear since all that nonsense about Ashcroft. His company once did a job in Australia for the tobacco industry. So what?
North West Tonight @BBCNWT
IPPC looking into Hillsborough evidence say they have identified another 55 officers who appear to have changed statements. @HJC_Official