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  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,963
    What's the point of an audience if they get admonished for making a sound?
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    RobD said:

    Moses_ said:

    Why is the mod challenging Trump about his finances and taxes?

    No problem with this but will the sAme question be passed to Clinton?

    I guess because she has published hers.
    Trump's tax returns for emails - LOL
  • What has tax returns and emails got to do with the question? What was the question?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    edited September 2016
    He really shouldn't boast about not paying taxes :o
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Waiting for the same question to Clinton.... No passed toClinton and She goes on attack on HIS tax returns

    Ok
    I was giving this either way. It's being now bowled underarm to Clinton
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Well Trump just admitted that he pays 0 taxes and that makes him smart according to him.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158

    What has tax returns and emails got to do with the question? What was the question?

    The question was about tax returns :p
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited September 2016
    What is Trump bumbling about....

    Oh he on about LaGuardia and LAX...he is definitely right about those shit hole airports.
  • RobD said:

    He really shouldn't boast about not paying taxes :o

    'That makes me smart' for paying zero federal taxes.......not sure that's a good line....
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    This is pointless
    Both have gone into the attack on each other

    The whole point is I think anyway what are they going to do for the people , the voters?

  • Very strong from Trump here.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited September 2016
    Moses_ said:

    This is pointless
    Both have gone into the attack on each other

    The whole point is I think anyway what are they going to do for the people , the voters?

    I still have bugger all idea about what their policies are. Clinton something about allowing students to refinance their student debt and Trump to give big tax cuts.

    Its now just all personal bollocks. Clinton's father obviously did well in the focus group given she appears to mention him in every other sentence.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Doesn't seem like anything much of significance so far. Trump out a little on Betfair, 2.88 to 3.15.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    Very strong from Trump here.

    This is all about attitude now - are you essentially pro or anti business/pro or anti tax et al.

    How many times has she mentioned her dad now? 4x ?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    I feel like we've gone beyond the absurd now?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716
    Clinton brings up Trump's bankruptcies
  • RobD said:

    I feel like we've gone beyond the absurd now?

    I think I might put on WWE wrestling, its less absurd.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Ooooo throw in about Trump not paying bills. Looks around for Flowers

    Meanwhile HRC claims she is middle class....

    Whatever.....Hello... What are you guys going to do about the voters?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited September 2016
    WTF is Trump banging on about The Old Post Office.
  • I am feeling like giving up the will to live....
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Trump's line is "I'm taking advantage of people and Hillary is letting me do it".
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited September 2016
    The questions have definitely been very handy for Clinton.

    Did the moderator just say one of you has a big bridge to build (or something to those words) on the question of race?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158

    The questions have definitely been very handy for Clinton.

    Did the moderator just say one of you has a big bridge to build (or something to those words) on the question of race?

    The one who wins the presidency, surely?
  • Speedy said:

    Trump's line is "I'm taking advantage of people and Hillary is letting me do it".

    Its certainly a novel approach!
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,963
    "A city I love, a city where I have investments..." LOL
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716
    SeanT said:

    If I were a mildly pissed off American I'd vote Trump on this basis. SO FAR

    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/780581541432872961
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    So far this is just reinforcing my prejudices - they are both shit awful candidates. Although I think Trump may have landed some blows.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    Essexit said:

    "A city I love, a city where I have investments..." LOL

    It's a businessman's highest accolade.
  • So far this is just reinforcing my prejudices - they are both shit awful candidates. Although I think Trump may have landed some blows.

    If the aliens came down and said "take me to your leader" and people pointed at the tv and said its one of those two...they would be back in their spaceship before you could say sniff or cough.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716
    Trump backs 'Stop and frisk' as pursued by Rudy Giuliani
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Remember what Trump needed to do to win is to appear composed and smart.
    I don't think he has done that.
  • Trump - we have to take their guns away. I thought that was Hillary's line. :)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716
    Speedy said:

    Remember what Trump needed to do to win is to appear composed and smart.
    I don't think he has done that.

    He is never going to beat Hillary on that, however some of his key points will resonate
  • I think the stop and search stuff plays well for Trump. The moderator going but but but profiling just plays into Trumps hand.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Monday night football

    Broncos 20, Bengals 17

    Oh?.......ok then.... Sorry
  • Clinton playing to her base now. System is racist.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited September 2016
    HRC talking sense on guns

    Oh yes 2nd amendment
  • 'Divert people from the criminal justice system' - you have to guess at what Hillary means when she strays into using wonkish phrases like that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited September 2016
    It does show how f##ked up America where the POTUS candidate has to say well I think we need to ban those on terrorist watch list from buying a gun as a policy!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    Why does she keep looking down? They don't have prepared notes, surely?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    SeanT said:

    My guess is Hillary loses desperately on crime

    Hillary needs to appear like a human and not like a cold technocrat to win the debate.
    She also isn't doing it.

    So both are losing, but Trump is losing more.
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,963
    HRC paraphrased: "Americans, you're all a little bit racist, you just don't know it."

    Doesn't strike me as a winning message.
  • SeanT said:

    Clinton playing to her base now. System is racist.

    Disastrous for her, I think
    I am sure it goes down really well in the sort of rooms that wooph and cheer at 30% of Americans being called Basket of Deplorables.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Hillary PR Team
    Whatever, Trump! Explain how this "law and order" is going to fight crime better than Hillary publicly sermonizing about white privilege?
  • Clinton's take on law and order....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrK_HVGOnUo
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716
    Trump says murders up, Hillary disagrees
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited September 2016
    Clinton is really arguing against the transformation of NYC due to smart and "aggressive" policing. In the 80's it was unbelievably unsafe place.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    HYUFD said:

    Trump says murders up, Hillary disagrees

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/us/murder-crime-fbi.html?_r=0

    Looks like Trump is right, 352 last year vs 333 in 2014.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270

    It does show how f##ked up America where the POTUS candidate has to say well I think we need to ban those on terrorist watch list from buying a gun as a policy!

    Especially somebody who has been in power for 8 years...
  • DromedaryDromedary Posts: 1,194
    edited September 2016
    Trump mid-price 3.275 at Betfair now; touched 2.67 yesterday. She's doing far better than I expected.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited September 2016
    Oh another "helpful" question for Clinton.

    So far we have "what about your taxes", "your a racist aren't you" and now "you were a birther".
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Good line from HRC "I have prepared to be president"
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158

    Oh another "helpful" question for Clinton.

    So far we have "what about your taxes", "your a racist aren't you" and now "you were a birther".

    Having trouble thinking what a good question for Trump would be!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716
    Trump says Patti Doyle and Sidney Blumenthal brought up birther issue but did not get birth certificate unlike him
  • I nodded off before the debate, I woke up 45 minutes in!

    #eternalshame
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Sorry Trump is constantly getting challenged from the Mod

    HRC is just not.

    This is more than once twice etc
  • RobD said:

    Oh another "helpful" question for Clinton.

    So far we have "what about your taxes", "your a racist aren't you" and now "you were a birther".

    Having trouble thinking what a good question for Trump would be!
    Well I think they are fair questions. But we haven't had what about Clinton's emails (it was Trump that had to bring it up), what about Clinton Foundation, etc etc etc.

    Last Week Tonight managed 20 mins on scandals for both of them.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,591
    Wakes up late, checks Betfair - not much happened so far. Starts watching.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    AndyJS said:
    Of course it is, Hillary won 45 minutes ago.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Hillary PR Team
    The more comfortable our girl gets on stage, the more her inner warmth just naturally shines out. Undecideds here we come!
  • DromedaryDromedary Posts: 1,194
    edited September 2016
    SeanT said:

    Dromedary said:

    Trump mid-price 3.275 at Betfair now; touched 2.67 yesterday. She's doing far better than I expected.

    Remember Brexit.
    Sure! And there's the whole of October to come. And he may have a trick or two up his sleeve that he'll play before the end of this debate.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    A great bowl from the mod to HRC

    Oh FFS

    No skin in the game here but who is this mod!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716
    RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Trump says murders up, Hillary disagrees

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/us/murder-crime-fbi.html?_r=0

    Looks like Trump is right, 352 last year vs 333 in 2014.
    One factcheck right for him there then
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited September 2016
    Moses_ said:

    A great bowl from the mod to HRC

    Oh FFS

    No skin in the game here but who is this mod!

    It is like under arms to Clinton on Trumps biggest weaknesses.

    Apparently the moderator is a registered Republican. Must be a Rubio supporter.
  • Hillary has trouble not breaking into a smirk when she thinks she's got a gotcha point to throw at Trump.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    I'm bored now, it's intervention from moderator fest.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Moses_ said:

    A great bowl from the mod to HRC

    Oh FFS

    No skin in the game here but who is this mod!

    A registered Republican, actually.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    Hillary has trouble not breaking into a smirk when she thinks she's got a gotcha point to throw at Trump.

    That fixed smile brings to mind The Joker. Pretty bad plastic surgeon to result in that permanent rictus.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716
    Speedy said:

    AndyJS said:
    Of course it is, Hillary won 45 minutes ago.
    This is no slam dunk at all, little between them and undecideds have been good for Trump with Luntz
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    Andrew said:

    Moses_ said:

    A great bowl from the mod to HRC

    Oh FFS

    No skin in the game here but who is this mod!

    A registered Republican, actually.
    Not sure that actually means anything other he can vote in the GOP elections?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Speedy said:

    AndyJS said:
    Of course it is, Hillary won 45 minutes ago.
    Why did she win 45 mins ago?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    What is Trump doing?

    "I settled without admission of guilt".
  • LOL...cyber warfare....neither have a f##king clue on this.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    AndyJS said:

    Speedy said:

    AndyJS said:
    Of course it is, Hillary won 45 minutes ago.
    Why did she win 45 mins ago?
    Cause Speedy said so.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    Dromedary said:

    SeanT said:

    Dromedary said:

    Trump mid-price 3.275 at Betfair now; touched 2.67 yesterday. She's doing far better than I expected.

    Remember Brexit.
    Sure! And there's the whole of October to come. And he may have a trick or two up his sleeve that he'll play before the end of this debate.
    I'm waiting for Putin to make available Hillary's deleted e-mails....
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Zinger from Trump there

    Katie Pavlich
    "The birther lie was a hurtful one" -says Hillary Clinton, whose 2008 campaign circulated a photo of Obama in Muslim garb #Debates
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    Speedy said:

    What is Trump doing?

    "I settled without admission of guilt".

    According to 538 that's been his line on this for years.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited September 2016
    AndyJS said:

    Speedy said:

    AndyJS said:
    Of course it is, Hillary won 45 minutes ago.
    Why did she win 45 mins ago?
    Trump blew his top off 45 minutes ago.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    RobD said:

    Oh another "helpful" question for Clinton.

    So far we have "what about your taxes", "your a racist aren't you" and now "you were a birther".

    Having trouble thinking what a good question for Trump would be!
    Well I think they are fair questions. But we haven't had what about Clinton's emails (it was Trump that had to bring it up), what about Clinton Foundation, etc etc etc.

    Last Week Tonight managed 20 mins on scandals for both of them.
    She admitted an error.. Oh fucking dear, never mind heh?

    Despite being in around government for years, and all the training such she must had for her role and the mod being utterly irrelevant in pressing the point

    For that level of security we would not do under fear of instant dismissal.
  • PlatoSaid said:

    Zinger from Trump there

    Katie Pavlich
    "The birther lie was a hurtful one" -says Hillary Clinton, whose 2008 campaign circulated a photo of Obama in Muslim garb #Debates

    Conflating two different issues though. In fact, suggestive that muslims cannot be Americans.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Speedy said:

    AndyJS said:

    Speedy said:

    AndyJS said:
    Of course it is, Hillary won 45 minutes ago.
    Why did she win 45 mins ago?
    Trump blew his top off 45 minutes ago.
    Apparently McMao says its ok ...?
  • I don't think I can manage another 2 of these debates....
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158

    I don't think I can manage another 2 of these debates....

    You have no option
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited September 2016
    Clinton-Bot-2000 back.....ISIS...plan...Racccccccaarrr....insert word...insert word...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,591

    LOL...cyber warfare....neither have a f##king clue on this.

    That's an understatement! This is awful to watch, no policies just slinging bricks like two monkeys.
  • Sandpit said:

    LOL...cyber warfare....neither have a f##king clue on this.

    That's an understatement! This is awful to watch, no policies just slinging bricks like two monkeys.
    More like poo slinging.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    This debate is horrible, both Trump and Hillary are reinforcing their worst sides.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    I heard Hillary clear her throat.
  • DromedaryDromedary Posts: 1,194
    "The computer aspect of cyber is very very tough," says Trump.

    No clue whatsoever!
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited September 2016

    I don't think I can manage another 2 of these debates....

    There are 2 more :open_mouth:

    That's it off to bed...what the point in losing sleep.
  • Dromedary said:

    "The computer aspect of cyber is very very tough," says Trump.

    No clue whatsoever!

    His 10 year old will set him straight.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Frank Rich
    Turns out the hacker was Chris Christie!
  • Clinton-Bot-2000....Fact Checkers....Fact Checkers...Fact Checkers....
  • RobD said:

    I don't think I can manage another 2 of these debates....

    You have no option
    Persistence is futile? :lol:
  • I wish I had spent the past 90 mins smashing my head against the wall. I would have got less of a headache.
  • Clinton's answer there is damning of Obama and herself. 'The Iraqi government wouldn't let us stay.'
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Hillary calling NATO the oldest military alliance in the world. What about England/Portugal?
  • MTimT said:

    Hillary calling NATO the oldest military alliance in the world. What about England/Portugal?

    We are back of the queue these days.
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