Anorak, if you really think the impact of Atos has been marginal, and just a case of the odd 'winner and loser' here and there, then you're living on a different planet. I've already characterised the true effect of the Atos evil, but my words were deleted.
Let's say several million people affected, several hundred much worse off. Not a bad ratio when you think of the benefit to the country and the economy and all our futures. As I said, imaging a change of this scale should be made with everyone happy and bluebirds landing on their shoulders to join in a jolly song is simplistic in the extreme.
Just quote the wiki entry. It's backed up by sources though it admittedly only scratches the surface of the repulsive and vicious things they have done.
Just caught up with a thread from yesterday where I commented that it was a bit daft to judge whether IDS can live on £57pw by his expenses claims to find some idiot called Mick Pork responded
"so you are another one who thinks all benefit claimants are child killers"
Seriously, WTF is that all about?? Just about the strawiest of straw men arguments in history. What an idiotic comment.
Is there an 'ignore' button anywhere on this blog?
Why are you lying?
You do realise it's very easy for me to get your exact words which do put the subsequent comment into context.
@MickPork - Well I don't know how to as I'm hopeless at IT, but please do as there is nothing in the context that makes any difference to the idiocy or irrelevance of your response whatsoever.
If anyone else wants to, it's half way down the South Shields thread, i'd be very grateful to anyone who can reproduce the exchange to demonstrate just who's lying here.
Anti-rape underwear which delivers a 3,800 kilovolt shock to any would-be attacker has been created by a team of Indian engineering students.
After disabling the assailant, the undergarment has been designed to automatically send a text message to police or family members containing the GPS location of the attempted crime.
Pressure sensors on the garment, sewn in around the bust area, detect unwanted force and trigger the powerful shock. It can deliver up to 82 electric shocks, more than enough to disable any attacker.
I really think this question has come six years too early.
It might be worthy of idle speculation as the nation considers the prospects of a third term of coalition government in May 2019 but Mr Goodman clearly allowed his mind to wander as he mused on the prospect of life on £53 a week should Ed become Prime Minister any time soon.
Huzzah for the Coalition 2010-2020 .... at the very least !!
I've said this before, but what the left need to do is come up with an anti-philpott, a genuine honest person or people who is suffering real hardship whilst on benefits, and is set to suffer more after the cuts. They need to personalise the debate.
If the left's analysis of welfare is correct they should be spoilt for choice. But they can't seem to find anybody.
is one of the stupidest comments ever posted on PB.
And there is considerable competition.
Another one who seemingly has no problem with equating those on benefits to child killers I see.
Surprise, surprise.
There you go. Far from out of the blue it was contrasting your esteemed and supposedly new judgement of the "stupidest comments ever posted on PB" with someone who had previously commented to the effect of equating those on benefits with the child killer Philpott. Comments which had already been scorned at by those who show considerably more judgement than you do. There were also remarks saying there was a deafening silence when it came to many others saying those Philpott comments were problematic or just plain stupid. Hence the contrast between what you found stupid and problematic and the lack of a problem with comments that others were finding far more 'stupid'.
If you need everything explained to you perhaps you could find someone else to help you or try reading through a thread to properly understand it so you won't jump to the wrong conclusions. If you ignore all the other comments then this kind of thing will happen. At least you have demonstrated an ignore button is superfluous when it comes to yourself since you can do so admirably when it suits you.
Mr. 67, the only way the debt would not have increased under the Coalition would be if they had made immediate and permanent cuts of a genuinely substantial nature.
On Topic: I think pretty much whatever the Tories do now they are unlikely to win a majority in 2015. So they should think and act politically. That means they must leave behind traps in the shape of decisions that benefit the country and will be difficult if not impossible for Labour to reverse.
LAbour had the top tax rate at 40p for their whole time apart from 10 minutes before it was celar they were toast in 2010 and put it up to 50p. Now they are reaping the benefits of 'tax cuts for millionaires' headlines. Utterly cynical but effective.
Our debt is 1.4 trillion = 90%GDP now. We simply have to pare back the state pretty radically. That seems incomatible with getting elected. BUt if you're toast anyway there should be measures to leave behind a la top tax which will leave Redward in a dilemma - leave or reverse.
Labour seem to have no policies now - or none that they are prepared to share with the electorate, so all sorts of hopes are being foist upon them. The realities of teh debt market and interest rates in a world where our debt exceeds 100%GDP will predominate. The lefty disappointments will be huge - and just as Brown's departing moves helped set the stage for a LAbour win in 2015 I think Dave n Ozzy's departing moves can line up a Tory win in about 2018.
This coalition are doing a great job with the economy !
If you take a look at the second graph, the gross debt (net is more usual) measure flatters the government, since it shows a decline about 40% since the coalition took power. Indeed of the many graphs I've seen it shows the most consistent improvement even through the second dip of the recession (if indeed there was one).
First rule of Pork club is that nobody understands Pork club.
It's a stream of Romneyshambles jargon and in jokes about the CoTE channeling Prince Joffrey that can be understood by single person - Porky paper hater himself.
" and in jokes about the CoTE channeling Prince Joffrey"
Harry - Your case would be bolstered somewhat if I had ever once mentioned this "Prince Joffrey" until right now. Would I be right in thinking this is some fictional child prince from a TV fantasy? I fear you are revealing far more about yourself than me if that is indeed the case.
What in jokes you may harbour about Osborne and this fantasy child prince are no doubt intriguing but not actually my concern.
First rule of Pork club is that nobody understands Pork club.
It's a stream of Romneyshambles jargon and in jokes about the CoTE channeling Prince Joffrey that can be understood by single person - Porky paper hater himself.
" and in jokes about the CoTE channeling Prince Joffrey"
Harry - Your case would be bolstered somewhat if I had ever once mentioned this "Prince Joffrey" until right now. Would I be right in thinking this is some fictional child prince from a TV fantasy? I fear you are revealing far more about yourself than me if that is indeed the case.
What in jokes you may harbour about Osborne and this fantasy child prince are no doubt intriguing but not actually my concern.
The Govts own impact assessment states there's a mismatch of 240,000 people of working age needing smaller properties. Many of the one bedroomed flats you are talking about are of course specifically for the elderly. And again the Govts own impact assessment points out that those geographical areas with overcrowding issues are not the same as those with under-occupancy.
I assume you are having a laugh, if you know anything about social housing you will know that if you are in accommodation that has more bedrooms than you require and you are prepared to trade down to smaller accommodation whether via the tenants incentive scheme, a transfer through allocation policies (where people willing to move to smaller accommodation are given maximum points) or through a mutual exchange, then it will happen quickly, it always has, it always will. Do you really think that that man who starred on BBC News who said that he would be homeless because he couldn't afford his three bedroom house in which he had sole occupation, would not be moved to a one bedroom flat if he asked his landlord? They would snap his hand off, they would pay for his move, they have families living in B & B accommodation desperate for his flat.
David Cameron given a lecture on 'debt' and 'deficit' by top statistics official.
A lecture, tim?
So Rachel Reeves (the made-over one who has had more voice training in recent months than Boy George has had hot dinners) writes to the UK National Statistics Authority asking it to clarify the difference between debt and deficit in response to an alleged public misstatement by the Prime Minister.
The Authority responds by letter with a copy to Downing Street. All in a day's work for Dilnot.
Now Labour claim this is a "lecture".
Perhaps Reeves ought first to acknowledge that the ONS produces many measures of debt (Gross vs. Net; Cash based vs. Accrued; Including vs. Excluding Financial Interventions; Nominal vs. Seasonally Adjusted; Nominal vs.inflation adjusted; as indices; as ratios of GDP etc).
And this is before we start considering the many similar measures the ONS produce on the "deficit". The arcane world of National Accounting also means that certain intra-sector lending is excluded from the figures, as are contingent liabilities (e.g. pension obligations) and guarantees are not accounted for at all.
All this means tim is that one has to read many hundred pages of explanatory notes issued by the ONS (and SNA and ESA) to really understand what they are going on about.
Cameron has eschewed all this nonsense and quite rightly and defensibly announced that his government is paying down the debts.
You just need to choose the right measure to justify Cameron's claim in the same way that Rachel Reeves is choosing the right vowels when speaking in the broadcast media.
ANA will not fly passengers on the 787 when it returns to service after Boeing's battery woes. Instead, they'll initially fly freight only.
I must admit to being rather wary about Boeing's 'fixes' to the problems. As they haven't discovered the root cause of the battery fires, they've gone for mitigation to stop any damage if they do catch fire. (*)
The 787's woes in development, production and service makes Airbus's A380 look a model of good management and engineering.
Public Policy Polling research finds 37 per cent of Americans think global warming is a hoax, while 11 per cent of the population believe the US government allowed September 11 to happen
The impressive thing about this is that they're getting decent numbers for quite a wide range of conspiracy theories from left and right, so they've almost definitely got a majority of Americans believing something seriously nuts. And that's before we even start on the traditional, accepted invisible-super-hero-related bonkers.
I can never decide with some of those questions how much it is people pulling the leg of borderline ridiculous questions. I can think of a few people I know who might say they believe the Moon Landings were faked, for example, just for a laugh. I was one of the people who jokingly put themselves down as Jedi in the 2001 census.
Sometimes if you ask a silly question you will receive a silly answer.
@BenM - Ed Miliband is going to sort out Global Warming?
Wow.
What about his second term? Eradicate world poverty, sort out the Israel/Palestine issue, bring democracy to North Korea, and eradicate corruption in Africa?
That would only take two episodes for Ed "West Wing" Miliband
" and in jokes about the CoTE channeling Prince Joffrey"
Harry - Your case would be bolstered somewhat if I had ever once mentioned this "Prince Joffrey" until right now. Would I be right in thinking this is some fictional child prince from a TV fantasy? I fear you are revealing far more about yourself than me if that is indeed the case.
What in jokes you may harbour about Osborne and this fantasy child prince are no doubt intriguing but not actually my concern.
I think he's the younger brother of the Sultan of Brunei, rich and not very clever.
The Daily Mail used to specialise in silly and often tendentious polls. I recall that one day it asked its readers to vote on whether it was alright for immigrants to queue jump hospital waiting lists. It prompted an internet conspiracy to vote Yes in massive numbers.
@BenM - Ed Miliband is going to sort out Global Warming?
Wow.
What about his second term? Eradicate world poverty, sort out the Israel/Palestine issue, bring democracy to North Korea, and eradicate corruption in Africa?
That would only take two episodes for Ed "West Wing" Miliband
He will be helped by the "Saudi Arabia of renewables" North of the border. Or Not.
Alex Salmond is ready to back “turbine-free areas”, protecting some of Scotland’s most dramatic mountain scenery from the onward march of wind farms, it emerged last night.
@MickPork - Wow, you really are full of crap aren't you? Courtesy of my son who's brighter than me, here the full exchange:
Your initial post:
Osbrowne leading the charge with a Romney master strategy on welfare.
How he's going to pull that one off when the toxic liability will be hiding during the next election campaign (just like the last time) doesn't seem to even have occurred to the tea party tories. As usual.
The quiet man who the tories dumped after his 'inspirational leadership' racks up 300,000 on an e-petition quicker than an MP can claim expenses for bluetooth headset.
Like this one. Iain Duncan Smith has claimed he could live on £53 per week - the amount given to some benefit claimants. The Work and Pensions Secretary said he could survive on £7.57 per day if he "had to", as he defended a raft of cuts to welfare payments coming into force today.
He'd have to cut back a bit if he did so. According to his parliamentary expenses, he spent £110 - two week's worth of benefits - on a Bose bluetooth headset for his car, and another £12.42 on a USB cable (I mean, come on, who spends more than a fiver on a USB cable?). His monthly phone bill has been over £53 every month in the latest financial year, so that's another week each month he can't eat, travel, heat his house or, really do anything. And given he can claim for travel, he may have forgotten that that £5.30 he spent on taking one tube trip within his constituency also comes out of the £53. Just ten of them and he'd go hungry. -----------------------------------------------------------------
To which I responded:
I don't know who the moron is that Pork is quoting, but suggesting that IDS couldn't survive on benefits because the expenses he incurs in the course of his employment exceed what he would receive in benefits, is one of the stupidest comments ever posted on PB.
And there is considerable competition. ------------------------------------------------------------------
To which you responded:
ShambLOLes said: is one of the stupidest comments ever posted on PB.
And there is considerable competition.
Another one who seemingly has no problem with equating those on benefits to child killers I see.
Much as I dislike Osborne's 'accent' (I've noticed it well before yesterday and it was apparent during the budget), it was tim's hero Blair (Fettes, Oxford) who inititated this absurd linguistic dressing down. If only everyone could speak like my fellow pbTory Neil!
"The defendant had 36 offences on his record." The other two don't say how much previous they had.
If this was the 50s the third one would still be in stir for one of those earlier convictions and would never have committed the other 30 or so that are known about (plus all the others that aren't known about).
The Daily Mail used to specialise in silly and often tendentious polls. I recall that one day it asked its readers to vote on whether it was alright for immigrants to queue jump hospital waiting lists. It prompted an internet conspiracy to vote Yes in massive numbers.
I think it stopped doing them after that.
Time magazine used to do it too. It arranged a poll for Man (Woman) of the Century. Unfortunattely for them the results did not fit the narrative (Living Saint, some other guy...). Instead thanks to an enormous push in Turkey Ataturk won. Think poll results were not taken into account.
FPT Hard to know what to make of the whole Philpott thing - the spin part not the crime part. Could be reasonably popular for a while in or near old steel and coal type places where there are whole areas that descended into the Shameless culture after all the work disappeared at once and to a lesser extent elsewhere where the percentage of people like that is smaller.
However even if it's a net positive for a while (not sure either way) i think it'll be a blip as driving wages down with immigration, inflation and off-shoring is pushing more and more people into the safety net bracket and the banksta wing of the Tories so obviously salivating at the prospect of destroying the safety net aspect as well as the lifestyle-choice aspect means the Tories as a party are doomed unless they can get rid of the banksta influence.
But then I suppose it's not a lot different from Ryan Giggs winning Sports Personality Of The Year
One of my mates who normally bets in £20 had a grand on Jenson Button to win that year... Giggs scored one goal I think and soon after was found shagging his brothers missus! How's yer Donald?!!
I can't remember if the Libdems on here were part of the ceaseless squawking about 16 & 17 year olds getting to vote in the Independence referendum, but if so another superb opportunity for a bit of mealy-mouthed backpedaling.
'We should be helping him build an unstoppable momentum for permanent change following the Independence Referendum next year, where another Liberal Democrat, Michael Moore, has secured the right of 16 and 17 year olds to vote.'
I can't remember if the Libdems on here were part of the ceaseless squawking about 16 & 17 year olds getting to vote in the Independence referendum, but if so another superb opportunity for a bit of mealy-mouthed backpedaling.
'We should be helping him build an unstoppable momentum for permanent change following the Independence Referendum next year, where another Liberal Democrat, Michael Moore, has secured the right of 16 and 17 year olds to vote.'
A liverpudlian Tory on CH4. An unpleasant interviewee who doesn't understand that talking through her interviewer is very unattractive. She doesn't look like a Tory though.
Don't normally make personal remarks so I hope this one doesn't come across as snide or politically motivated: is it just my imagination or is Mr Cameron wearing very well for a Prime Minister? Normally the responsibilities of the post seem to age people very quickly.
Which is also the single biggest reason (imo) why there are so many more rapes and sexual assault in schools than there used to be.
"Teen pregnancy rate lowest since 1969"
If ethnic group A has a teen pregnancy rate of 2x and ethnic group B has a teen pregnancy rate of x then if the percentage of ethnic group B goes up then the *average* teen pregnancy rate will go down even though the individual rates haven't changed.
If the percentage increase of ethnic group B is high enough then the teenage pregnancy rate of group A could be increasing and the *average* rate could still be falling.
Basically all these stats need to be broken down by ethnic group and social class or they're useless.
In the last thread Sean_F mentioned that the brothels in Southwark were (in)famous in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries and I said I thought they went back earlier than that. Well I have spent a happy few hours doing some research.
The earliest official mention I can find was 1162 when under Henry II ordinances were passed for the "Government of the stewholders in Southwark under the direction of the Lord Bishop of Winchester".
In the fourteenth century one of the dioceses' tenants in chief of at least one the brothels was William Walworth - twice Lord Mayor of London and the chap who struck down Watt Tyler thus ending the peasants revolt, and adding the dagger to the Coat of Arms of the City of London.
The City had a tradition of grouping suppliers of commodities together and name the road in which they practised after said commodity. Hence, Bread Street, Milk Street and the famous Pudding Lane. What are to make, then of Gropec*ntlane in the parish of St. Mary Colethorpe. It was only in in 1483 that the City tried to banish vice from within its walls - without any noticeable effect.
The brothels of Southwark survived an attempt at their suppression by Henry VII and Henry VIII and were still going strong in 1840, though not under the direction of the Lord Bishop of Winchester.
Naturally I sympathise, but if you are going to bet on those popularity polls, you have to be able to think down to the level of the typical voter....and you have to think down a long way to get into the mind of yer SPOTY watcher.
Labours addiction to the welfare state (or more accurately buying votes with tax payers money)
"When the Coalition announced that disability claimants should undergo tests for their eligibility, the move was denounced as a cruel and pointless exercise by those campaigners who always seek to extend, not reduce, the welfare state. Now it is disclosed that more than a third of those welfare recipients decided to drop their claims rather than face the tests."
Don't normally make personal remarks so I hope this one doesn't come across as snide or politically motivated: is it just my imagination or is Mr Cameron wearing very well for a Prime Minister? Normally the responsibilities of the post seem to age people very quickly.
Er! I do hope that you are not accusing David Cameron of acting like a Prime Minister.
Goodman has a point, September 2014 would only be a few years before the election and would allow both parties to try and recoup some of their lost base, Cameron wooing right-wing UKIPers and the LDs, maybe led by Cable?, left-wingers who defected post-Coalition. As the Tories were in a minority administration Cameron should also hold a parliamentary vote on a referendum on Europe even if he inevitably loses it to tactically appease ex-UKIPers, while the LDs could oppose some spending cuts post 2015!
Don't normally make personal remarks so I hope this one doesn't come across as snide or politically motivated: is it just my imagination or is Mr Cameron wearing very well for a Prime Minister? Normally the responsibilities of the post seem to age people very quickly.
Er! I do hope that you are not accusing David Cameron of acting like a Prime Minister.
Anne, I think you have to admit that you rather walked into that one!
But yes, he does seem to wear his responsibilities lightly and bounce back well from the odd disaster.
TSE - If North Korea ever did nuke part of the US, the US would swiftly nuke and wipe out North Korea within a matter of hours, and the US is a rather larger country!
Don't normally make personal remarks so I hope this one doesn't come across as snide or politically motivated: is it just my imagination or is Mr Cameron wearing very well for a Prime Minister? Normally the responsibilities of the post seem to age people very quickly.
Er! I do hope that you are not accusing David Cameron of acting like a Prime Minister.
Anne, I think you have to admit that you rather walked into that one!
But yes, he does seem to wear his responsibilities lightly and bounce back well from the odd disaster.
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Just quote the wiki entry. It's backed up by sources though it admittedly only scratches the surface of the repulsive and vicious things they have done.
You do realise it's very easy for me to get your exact words which do put the subsequent comment into context.
<blockquote class="Quote" rel="ShambLOLes"> Is there an 'ignore' button anywhere on this blog? </blockquote>
Only 3 comments and whining about an ignore button already? You'll fit in just fine.
If anyone else wants to, it's half way down the South Shields thread, i'd be very grateful to anyone who can reproduce the exchange to demonstrate just who's lying here.
Anti-rape underwear which delivers a 3,800 kilovolt shock to any would-be attacker has been created by a team of Indian engineering students.
After disabling the assailant, the undergarment has been designed to automatically send a text message to police or family members containing the GPS location of the attempted crime.
Pressure sensors on the garment, sewn in around the bust area, detect unwanted force and trigger the powerful shock. It can deliver up to 82 electric shocks, more than enough to disable any attacker.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303287/Indian-engineers-invent-anti-rape-underwear-gives-attackers-electric-shocks-automatically-texts-police-help.html#ixzz2PPkZLcXU
It might be worthy of idle speculation as the nation considers the prospects of a third term of coalition government in May 2019 but Mr Goodman clearly allowed his mind to wander as he mused on the prospect of life on £53 a week should Ed become Prime Minister any time soon.
Huzzah for the Coalition 2010-2020 .... at the very least !!
Cool.
Far from out of the blue it was contrasting your esteemed and supposedly new judgement of the "stupidest comments ever posted on PB" with someone who had previously commented to the effect of equating those on benefits with the child killer Philpott. Comments which had already been scorned at by those who show considerably more judgement than you do. There were also remarks saying there was a deafening silence when it came to many others saying those Philpott comments were problematic or just plain stupid. Hence the contrast between what you found stupid and problematic and the lack of a problem with comments that others were finding far more 'stupid'.
If you need everything explained to you perhaps you could find someone else to help you or try reading through a thread to properly understand it so you won't jump to the wrong conclusions. If you ignore all the other comments then this kind of thing will happen. At least you have demonstrated an ignore button is superfluous when it comes to yourself since you can do so admirably when it suits you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303345/Britains-debt-mountain-reaches-1-39TRILLION-equivalent-90-entire-economy-ONS-reveals.html
This coalition are doing a great job with the economy !
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG79iQ0CIAEbpcA.jpg:large
LAbour had the top tax rate at 40p for their whole time apart from 10 minutes before it was celar they were toast in 2010 and put it up to 50p. Now they are reaping the benefits of 'tax cuts for millionaires' headlines. Utterly cynical but effective.
Our debt is 1.4 trillion = 90%GDP now. We simply have to pare back the state pretty radically. That seems incomatible with getting elected. BUt if you're toast anyway there should be measures to leave behind a la top tax which will leave Redward in a dilemma - leave or reverse.
Labour seem to have no policies now - or none that they are prepared to share with the electorate, so all sorts of hopes are being foist upon them. The realities of teh debt market and interest rates in a world where our debt exceeds 100%GDP will predominate. The lefty disappointments will be huge - and just as Brown's departing moves helped set the stage for a LAbour win in 2015 I think Dave n Ozzy's departing moves can line up a Tory win in about 2018.
Hover your cursor over a post you made and a cog will appear in the top-right. Click it to edit (only works 1 hour after posting).
Also is anyone producing a widget?
Harry - Your case would be bolstered somewhat if I had ever once mentioned this "Prince Joffrey" until right now. Would I be right in thinking this is some fictional child prince from a TV fantasy? I fear you are revealing far more about yourself than me if that is indeed the case.
What in jokes you may harbour about Osborne and this fantasy child prince are no doubt intriguing but not actually my concern.
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@currystar
The Govts own impact assessment states there's a mismatch of 240,000 people of working age needing smaller properties.
Many of the one bedroomed flats you are talking about are of course specifically for the elderly.
And again the Govts own impact assessment points out that those geographical areas with overcrowding issues are not the same as those with under-occupancy.
I assume you are having a laugh, if you know anything about social housing you will know that if you are in accommodation that has more bedrooms than you require and you are prepared to trade down to smaller accommodation whether via the tenants incentive scheme, a transfer through allocation policies (where people willing to move to smaller accommodation are given maximum points) or through a mutual exchange, then it will happen quickly, it always has, it always will. Do you really think that that man who starred on BBC News who said that he would be homeless because he couldn't afford his three bedroom house in which he had sole occupation, would not be moved to a one bedroom flat if he asked his landlord? They would snap his hand off, they would pay for his move, they have families living in B & B accommodation desperate for his flat.
So Rachel Reeves (the made-over one who has had more voice training in recent months than Boy George has had hot dinners) writes to the UK National Statistics Authority asking it to clarify the difference between debt and deficit in response to an alleged public misstatement by the Prime Minister.
The Authority responds by letter with a copy to Downing Street. All in a day's work for Dilnot.
Now Labour claim this is a "lecture".
Perhaps Reeves ought first to acknowledge that the ONS produces many measures of debt (Gross vs. Net; Cash based vs. Accrued; Including vs. Excluding Financial Interventions; Nominal vs. Seasonally Adjusted; Nominal vs.inflation adjusted; as indices; as ratios of GDP etc).
And this is before we start considering the many similar measures the ONS produce on the "deficit". The arcane world of National Accounting also means that certain intra-sector lending is excluded from the figures, as are contingent liabilities (e.g. pension obligations) and guarantees are not accounted for at all.
All this means tim is that one has to read many hundred pages of explanatory notes issued by the ONS (and SNA and ESA) to really understand what they are going on about.
Cameron has eschewed all this nonsense and quite rightly and defensibly announced that his government is paying down the debts.
You just need to choose the right measure to justify Cameron's claim in the same way that Rachel Reeves is choosing the right vowels when speaking in the broadcast media.
Easy, innit?
Manna from heaven for the gag writer....
https://twitter.com/NewsManc/status/319442738351308802/photo/1
ANA will not fly passengers on the 787 when it returns to service after Boeing's battery woes. Instead, they'll initially fly freight only.
I must admit to being rather wary about Boeing's 'fixes' to the problems. As they haven't discovered the root cause of the battery fires, they've gone for mitigation to stop any damage if they do catch fire. (*)
The 787's woes in development, production and service makes Airbus's A380 look a model of good management and engineering.
http://northcharleston.patch.com/articles/latest-news-on-boeing-787-dreamliner
(*) Basically. As is often the case, it is more complex than that.
Sometimes if you ask a silly question you will receive a silly answer.
That would only take two episodes for Ed "West Wing" Miliband
You are absolutely right, No.
The Daily Mail used to specialise in silly and often tendentious polls. I recall that one day it asked its readers to vote on whether it was alright for immigrants to queue jump hospital waiting lists. It prompted an internet conspiracy to vote Yes in massive numbers.
I think it stopped doing them after that.
Your initial post:
Osbrowne leading the charge with a Romney master strategy on welfare.
How he's going to pull that one off when the toxic liability will be hiding during the next election campaign (just like the last time) doesn't seem to even have occurred to the tea party tories. As usual.
The quiet man who the tories dumped after his 'inspirational leadership' racks up 300,000 on an e-petition quicker than an MP can claim expenses for bluetooth headset.
Like this one.
Iain Duncan Smith has claimed he could live on £53 per week - the amount given to some benefit claimants. The Work and Pensions Secretary said he could survive on £7.57 per day if he "had to", as he defended a raft of cuts to welfare payments coming into force today.
He'd have to cut back a bit if he did so. According to his parliamentary expenses, he spent £110 - two week's worth of benefits - on a Bose bluetooth headset for his car, and another £12.42 on a USB cable (I mean, come on, who spends more than a fiver on a USB cable?). His monthly phone bill has been over £53 every month in the latest financial year, so that's another week each month he can't eat, travel, heat his house or, really do anything. And given he can claim for travel, he may have forgotten that that £5.30 he spent on taking one tube trip within his constituency also comes out of the £53. Just ten of them and he'd go hungry.
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To which I responded:
I don't know who the moron is that Pork is quoting, but suggesting that IDS couldn't survive on benefits because the expenses he incurs in the course of his employment exceed what he would receive in benefits, is one of the stupidest comments ever posted on PB.
And there is considerable competition.
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To which you responded:
ShambLOLes said:
is one of the stupidest comments ever posted on PB.
And there is considerable competition.
Another one who seemingly has no problem with equating those on benefits to child killers I see.
Surprise, surprise.
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I'll leave it to other posters to decide with that is a valid response or whether you're a complete idiot. I'm going with the latter
"Let's say several million people affected, several hundred much worse off."
You're only a few hundred thousand out.
Is it equipped to cope with that kind of extreme level of wealth and privilege?
OMG did I just press "send"??
Perhaps we should all become "Greens" so we can take lessons from him.
Yes you did
Rachel Reeves
Ejaculation Nation? (blushes)
More like 'Somnambulation Nation' (well unless your a horse I suppose)
http://order-order.com/2013/04/03/watch-david-camerons-school-days/
The class calculator classic example of GIGO.
Not even pullman class.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/burnleypendlerossendale/10313529.Masked_mugger_jailed_over_knifepoint_robbery_attempt_in_Burnley/
"The defendant had 36 offences on his record." The other two don't say how much previous they had.
If this was the 50s the third one would still be in stir for one of those earlier convictions and would never have committed the other 30 or so that are known about (plus all the others that aren't known about).
Hillsborough - Never Forgotten
Ataturk!!! LOL.
But then I suppose it's not a lot different from Ryan Giggs winning Sports Personality Of The Year
Hard to know what to make of the whole Philpott thing - the spin part not the crime part. Could be reasonably popular for a while in or near old steel and coal type places where there are whole areas that descended into the Shameless culture after all the work disappeared at once and to a lesser extent elsewhere where the percentage of people like that is smaller.
However even if it's a net positive for a while (not sure either way) i think it'll be a blip as driving wages down with immigration, inflation and off-shoring is pushing more and more people into the safety net bracket and the banksta wing of the Tories so obviously salivating at the prospect of destroying the safety net aspect as well as the lifestyle-choice aspect means the Tories as a party are doomed unless they can get rid of the banksta influence.
One of my mates who normally bets in £20 had a grand on Jenson Button to win that year... Giggs scored one goal I think and soon after was found shagging his brothers missus! How's yer Donald?!!
Mr. Sam, that must've hurt.
Yes, she came third, after Brunel and Churchill:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/2509465.stm
http://imgur.com/35ddsaH
'We should be helping him build an unstoppable momentum for permanent change following the Independence Referendum next year, where another Liberal Democrat, Michael Moore, has secured the right of 16 and 17 year olds to vote.'
http://tinyurl.com/cnwjs9s
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350288/29-year-old-Britains-youngest-grandfather-scrounger.html
Rotherham had a 26 year old Grandmother.
Which makes for Grab a Granny night less grim than other parts of the country
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/432463.stm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-22002392
http://order-order.com/
EDIT: I thought about putting a smilely. But, on reflection, it's actually rather depressing
'The 17 Guinea baboons were moved from Edinburgh Zoo after "falling out" with the others who shared their enclosure.'
Is S.Yorks also preparing a refuge for outcast Tories?
When I go visit my parents in Sheffield, I end up doubling the number of Tory voters in the county.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7824699/Girls-now-reaching-puberty-before-10-a-year-sooner-than-20-years-ago.html
Which is also the single biggest reason (imo) why there are so many more rapes and sexual assault in schools than there used to be.
"Teen pregnancy rate lowest since 1969"
If
ethnic group A has a teen pregnancy rate of 2x
and
ethnic group B has a teen pregnancy rate of x
then if the percentage of ethnic group B goes up then the *average* teen pregnancy rate will go down even though the individual rates haven't changed.
If the percentage increase of ethnic group B is high enough then the teenage pregnancy rate of group A could be increasing and the *average* rate could still be falling.
Basically all these stats need to be broken down by ethnic group and social class or they're useless.
On the way here we flew up the west coast of Scotland. The sky was cloudless, the views went on forever. What a stunning part of the world it is.
So it's your fault, Tim.
I suppose you and his mistresses spent the entire evening phoning in from payphones around the North-west.
If it had been conducted by the Daily Express, she'd have won it.
In the last thread Sean_F mentioned that the brothels in Southwark were (in)famous in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries and I said I thought they went back earlier than that. Well I have spent a happy few hours doing some research.
The earliest official mention I can find was 1162 when under Henry II ordinances were passed for the "Government of the stewholders in Southwark under the direction of the Lord Bishop of Winchester".
In the fourteenth century one of the dioceses' tenants in chief of at least one the brothels was William Walworth - twice Lord Mayor of London and the chap who struck down Watt Tyler thus ending the peasants revolt, and adding the dagger to the Coat of Arms of the City of London.
The City had a tradition of grouping suppliers of commodities together and name the road in which they practised after said commodity. Hence, Bread Street, Milk Street and the famous Pudding Lane. What are to make, then of Gropec*ntlane in the parish of St. Mary Colethorpe. It was only in in 1483 that the City tried to banish vice from within its walls - without any noticeable effect.
The brothels of Southwark survived an attempt at their suppression by Henry VII and Henry VIII and were still going strong in 1840, though not under the direction of the Lord Bishop of Winchester.
Naturally I sympathise, but if you are going to bet on those popularity polls, you have to be able to think down to the level of the typical voter....and you have to think down a long way to get into the mind of yer SPOTY watcher.
"When the Coalition announced that disability claimants should undergo tests for their eligibility, the move was denounced as a cruel and pointless exercise by those campaigners who always seek to extend, not reduce, the welfare state.
Now it is disclosed that more than a third of those welfare recipients decided to drop their claims rather than face the tests."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2302039/Labours-addiction-welfare-hurts-all.html#ixzz2PQiyNEpb
Labour yet again on the wrong side of the argument.
Oh that's nice. *panics* RT @AFP: #BREAKING: N. Korea army says it has final approval for nuclear attack on US
theonion.com/articles/n-korea-wondering-what-it-has-to-do-to-attract-us,35/
But yes, he does seem to wear his responsibilities lightly and bounce back well from the odd disaster.
Esther Mcvey. It says she worked in the family business of demolition. Now I understand!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/3/risky-business-china-continues-military-buildup-ne/