Corbyn plans drinks party for his left-wing chums in a gin palace that used to be a ragged school for destitute children. Seems very New Labour to me.
I hope the time of such drinks event is carefully planned as not to be sexist.
We stopped adjourning to the pub after the end of our regional teaching some years ago. Partly it was because of the changing medical culture towards drinking (the pub was actually owned by the Leicester hospitals!) but also it did rather exclude some staff members particularly the female, and the Muslims.
On the other hand our Christmas party is famously decadent - and heavily Hindu!
Mortimer, I think you have misunderstood my point.Comprehensive schools only exist in areas without grammar schools.
They may not be called Secondary Modern's but that is their status.
My parents took the line that when articulate and ambitious parents move their children out of a school then heaven help the others. They saw maintaining standards and pressing the teachers and management of a school to take academic and disciplinary duties seriously a civic duty and responsibility. They were fully in favour of comprehensives, despite being grammar school educated Conservative voters themselves.
Good schools need good activist parents.
Not sure that's true. While the postwar grammar school system still exists, more or less, in Kent, in other areas of the country the percentage of students attending grammar schools is way below 20%. Describing the rest of the schools in those areas as de facto Secondary Moderns (with all the emotional baggage that entails) is mistaken, if not disingenuous, IMO.
To take Poole as an example see the results of the non-grammar schools there in GCSE and also the fact that several of the "comprehensives" there do not enter for A levels.
These are the most recent figures that I can find on the web. The ones nearest the grammar school seem particularly blighted.
The report into the effect of Grammar schools by the Sutton Trust several years ago showed that Comprehensives in Grammar school areas showed no measureable drop in their results compared to non-Grammar areas whilst the Grammars themselves showed better results with the net overall effect being that areas with Grammars showed a small but measureable improvement in results compared to those without Grammars.
Another one, really? This is a disciplinary office for the Civil Service, displaying papers like this in public, is it not? Doesn't matter whether it's the long lenses in Downing St, or a crowded tube train.
I'm a very junior civil servant so wouldn't ever be in a position to have such high profile documentation, but you'd have to be a proper muppet to have such sensitive material out in public.
In the private sector, especially in a listed company, that sort of document finding its way to a journalist would be career suicide. As in you'll find your pass doesn't work and HR are there to meet you tomorrow morning. Don't pass "Go", don't collect 200 quid, and don't let the door hit your fat arse on the way out!
I don't see why lower standards should apply to Civil Servants.
It used to happen all the time. It's just people being people. Rush, rush, forget about Opsec and handling guidance 'cos I'm busy and important.
Mortimer, I think you have misunderstood my point.Comprehensive schools only exist in areas without grammar schools.
They may not be called Secondary Modern's but that is their status.
My parents took the line that when articulate and ambitious parents move their children out of a school then heaven help the others. They saw maintaining standards and pressing the teachers and management of a school to take academic and disciplinary duties seriously a civic duty and responsibility. They were fully in favour of comprehensives, despite being grammar school educated Conservative voters themselves.
Good schools need good activist parents.
Not sure that's true. While the postwar grammar school system still exists, more or less, in Kent, in other areas of the country the percentage of students attending grammar schools is way below 20%. Describing the rest of the schools in those areas as de facto Secondary Moderns (with all the emotional baggage that entails) is mistaken, if not disingenuous, IMO.
To take Poole as an example see the results of the non-grammar schools there in GCSE and also the fact that several of the "comprehensives" there do not enter for A levels.
These are the most recent figures that I can find on the web. The ones nearest the grammar school seem particularly blighted.
The report into the effect of Grammar schools by the Sutton Trust several years ago showed that Comprehensives in Grammar school areas showed no measureable drop in their results compared to non-Grammar areas whilst the Grammars themselves showed better results with the net overall effect being that areas with Grammars showed a small but measureable improvement in results compared to those without Grammars.
Welcome back.
Do you think that the results in Poole are acceptable?
Corbyn plans drinks party for his left-wing chums in a gin palace that used to be a ragged school for destitute children. Seems very New Labour to me.
I hope the time of such drinks event is carefully planned as not to be sexist.
We stopped adjourning to the pub after the end of our regional teaching some years ago. Partly it was because of the changing medical culture towards drinking (the pub was actually owned by the Leicester hospitals!) but also it did rather exclude some staff members particularly the female, and the Muslims.
On the other hand our Christmas party is famously decadent - and heavily Hindu!
Ha, the medics I know are famous for their social decadence. I used to know an A&E doc with a can of O2 in his car to sober him up for the long drive home
Corbyn plans drinks party for his left-wing chums in a gin palace that used to be a ragged school for destitute children. Seems very New Labour to me.
I hope the time of such drinks event is carefully planned as not to be sexist.
We stopped adjourning to the pub after the end of our regional teaching some years ago. Partly it was because of the changing medical culture towards drinking (the pub was actually owned by the Leicester hospitals!) but also it did rather exclude some staff members particularly the female, and the Muslims.
On the other hand our Christmas party is famously decadent - and heavily Hindu!
Why does going to a pub exclude females and Muslims?
Mortimer, I think you have misunderstood my point.Comprehensive schools only exist in areas without grammar schools.
They may not be called Secondary Modern's but that is their status.
My parents took the line that when articulate and ambitious parents move their children out of a school then heaven help the others. They saw maintaining standards and pressing the teachers and management of a school to take academic and disciplinary duties seriously a civic duty and responsibility. They were fully in favour of comprehensives, despite being grammar school educated Conservative voters themselves.
Good schools need good activist parents.
Not sure that's true. While the postwar grammar school system still exists, more or less, in Kent, in other areas of the country the percentage of students attending grammar schools is way below 20%. Describing the rest of the schools in those areas as de facto Secondary Moderns (with all the emotional baggage that entails) is mistaken, if not disingenuous, IMO.
To take Poole as an example see the results of the non-grammar schools there in GCSE and also the fact that several of the "comprehensives" there do not enter for A levels.
These are the most recent figures that I can find on the web. The ones nearest the grammar school seem particularly blighted.
I don't have any real knowledge of Poole, but would observe that it's not unusual for schools not to have standalone sixth forms (irrespective of the presence of grammar schools), as lower per capita funding at sixth form level (compared with earlier years) coupled with the difficulty of offering subject choices while maintaining economic class sizes is making it increasingly difficult for smaller schools to make the numbers add up.
Corbyn plans drinks party for his left-wing chums in a gin palace that used to be a ragged school for destitute children. Seems very New Labour to me.
I hope the time of such drinks event is carefully planned as not to be sexist.
We stopped adjourning to the pub after the end of our regional teaching some years ago. Partly it was because of the changing medical culture towards drinking (the pub was actually owned by the Leicester hospitals!) but also it did rather exclude some staff members particularly the female, and the Muslims.
On the other hand our Christmas party is famously decadent - and heavily Hindu!
Why does going to a pub exclude females and Muslims?
Does it exclude drivers as well?
As a matter of fact it does!
Most of our female juniors seem to be pregnant and/or Muslim.
Mortimer, I think you have misunderstood my point.Comprehensive schools only exist in areas without grammar schools.
They may not be called Secondary Modern's but that is their status.
My parents took the line that when articulate and ambitious parents move their children out of a school then heaven help the others. They saw maintaining standards and pressing the teachers and management of a school to take academic and disciplinary duties seriously a civic duty and responsibility. They were fully in favour of comprehensives, despite being grammar school educated Conservative voters themselves.
Good schools need good activist parents.
Not sure that's true. While the postwar grammar school system still exists, more or less, in Kent, in other areas of the country the percentage of students attending grammar schools is way below 20%. Describing the rest of the schools in those areas as de facto Secondary Moderns (with all the emotional baggage that entails) is mistaken, if not disingenuous, IMO.
To take Poole as an example see the results of the non-grammar schools there in GCSE and also the fact that several of the "comprehensives" there do not enter for A levels.
These are the most recent figures that I can find on the web. The ones nearest the grammar school seem particularly blighted.
The report into the effect of Grammar schools by the Sutton Trust several years ago showed that Comprehensives in Grammar school areas showed no measureable drop in their results compared to non-Grammar areas whilst the Grammars themselves showed better results with the net overall effect being that areas with Grammars showed a small but measureable improvement in results compared to those without Grammars.
Welcome back.
Do you think that the results in Poole are acceptable?
To be honest I have not seen those results at all so am really not in a position to comment. I just remembered the Sutton Trust report because it was a proper extensive and in depth study by an organisation not usually predisposed to be favourable to academic selection and it ran counter to all the normal claims about Grammars.
Thanks for the welcome back. My absence was mostly due to the referendum. I spent so much time in the months leading up to June campaigning and organising that I had let my business seriously slide and have been playing catch up to improve the bank balance and mollify a few clients. Thankfully I seem to be back to normal now so have more time to discuss politics again.
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On the other hand our Christmas party is famously decadent - and heavily Hindu!
It's mind bending.
Do you think that the results in Poole are acceptable?
Why does going to a pub exclude females and Muslims?
Does it exclude drivers as well?
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I don't have any real knowledge of Poole, but would observe that it's not unusual for schools not to have standalone sixth forms (irrespective of the presence of grammar schools), as lower per capita funding at sixth form level (compared with earlier years) coupled with the difficulty of offering subject choices while maintaining economic class sizes is making it increasingly difficult for smaller schools to make the numbers add up.
Most of our female juniors seem to be pregnant and/or Muslim.
Thanks for the welcome back. My absence was mostly due to the referendum. I spent so much time in the months leading up to June campaigning and organising that I had let my business seriously slide and have been playing catch up to improve the bank balance and mollify a few clients. Thankfully I seem to be back to normal now so have more time to discuss politics again.