"Here's why the quarrel about grammar schools never ends: it is not really about schools, but about what sort of country this should be. Grammar schools stood for adult authority, for discipline, for tradition, for hard work first and reward afterwards, and for self-improvement."
On the effective date of Brexit, the David Allen Green tweets which were posted on the last thread were interesting, but I don't think they should be taken too literally. For political reasons, Article 50 and therefore Brexit are going to have to come into formal effect reasonably quickly; that doesn't necessarily mean that our contributions to the EU budget (and payments from the EU budget to UK programmes) will stop overnight. It's much more likely that there will be a transitional agreement under which both will continue to some extent after we've formally left the EU. So the 2020 EU budget date is not a big issue, I think.
I still think early 2017 for A50, we LEAVE early 2019.
Sounds about right - I hope!
If things get delayed beyond Spring 2017 The Sunil will have to take further action.
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Public schools like our TSE are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
As we discussed the other day, when an Apple machine gets stuck in an endless update, fail reboot cycle it's a total nightmare.
Oh, wait...
Indeed.
I feel a thread coming up where I compare Theresa May at PMQs as the Windows operating system to the Apple OS that is David Cameron
May is popular and understood by everyone, but Cameron was just for the elite?
May can handle all sorts of situations, but Cameron just his own limited apps friends?
May delivers more for less, and Cameron was over-priced?
Yes, that could work.
Apple never lets you down nor does it crash and bring the whole system down.
It is also deservedly prestigious as it sets the agenda.
Apple copied a lot of ideas from other people (MP3 players, the OS graphical interface), but I agree they commercialise them first the best.
As to not crashing, the benefits they get are at the cost of reducing the various hardware you can run on, the software you can use, and the options and functionality you can enjoy.
Personally, I can handle the power and don't need to be in the Apple Kindergarten.
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Or, we could just improve the Secondary moderns and Comprehensives. Just a thought...
As we discussed the other day, when an Apple machine gets stuck in an endless update, fail reboot cycle it's a total nightmare.
Oh, wait...
Indeed.
I feel a thread coming up where I compare Theresa May at PMQs as the Windows operating system to the Apple OS that is David Cameron
I thought you were a Cameron fan?
I am, the highest compliments I can give him is to compare him to Caesar, or Apple, or 2 Unlimited.
Agree with the first and last. As for the middle, surely you mean the Apple that fell on Newton's head, giving him the inspiration to uncover the secrets of gravitation? (*)
You can's possibly mean the elitist, cultist Apple that forces you to work the way *they* want you to, and charge you through the nose to do so. For none of that, especially elitist, could ever apply to Dave.
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Nah, fee paying schools save the country lots of money in not educating those kids through the state education service, allowing more funds to spent on those that need it.
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Or, we could just improve the Secondary moderns and Comprehensives. Just a thought...
That's fine as well, what bothers me is public school educated twats who want to pull the ladder up because they can't stand the competition.
As we discussed the other day, when an Apple machine gets stuck in an endless update, fail reboot cycle it's a total nightmare.
Oh, wait...
Indeed.
I feel a thread coming up where I compare Theresa May at PMQs as the Windows operating system to the Apple OS that is David Cameron
A good joke circa 2001 perhaps, but rather dated in 2016 now that Windows is better performing, still highly popular, and has fewer serious vulnerabilities than OS X.
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Or, we could just improve the Secondary moderns and Comprehensives. Just a thought...
That's fine as well, what bothers me is public school educated twats who want to pull the ladder up because they can't stand the competition.
It's not about pulling the ladder, it is all about damaging those children outside of the grammar school system.
Look at what Sir Michael Wilshaw has said just this week. (I know he's an expert, but just look at the stats)
Look at the evidence Michael Gove saw, he was right, we need to improve the standards across all schools, not just a few.
Mrs Thatcher as Education Secretary abolished/merged more grammars than anyone else, and never reintroduced any as she saw the evidence.
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Nah, fee paying schools save the country lots of money in not educating those kids through the state education service, allowing more funds to spent on those that need it.
Would Working Class Northerners send their kids to public schools?
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Or, we could just improve the Secondary moderns and Comprehensives. Just a thought...
That's fine as well, what bothers me is public school educated twats who want to pull the ladder up because they can't stand the competition.
It's not about pulling the ladder, it is all about damaging those children outside of the grammar school system.
Look at what Sir Michael Wilshaw has said just this week. (I know he's an expert, but just look at the stats)
Look at the evidence Michael Gove saw, he was right, we need to improve the standards across all schools, not just a few.
Mrs Thatcher as Education Secretary abolished/merged more grammars than anyone else, and never reintroduced any as she saw the evidence.
As I said, we can close the grammars when we close the fee paying schools. I'm happy with that stalemate.
Mrs Thatcher as Education Secretary abolished/merged more grammars than anyone else, and never reintroduced any as she saw the evidence.
People from my sort of background needed Grammar schools to compete with children from privileged homes like Shirley Williams and Anthony Wedgwood Benn.
- M. H. Thatcher, speech to the Conservative Party Conference 1977.
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Or, we could just improve the Secondary moderns and Comprehensives. Just a thought...
That's fine as well, what bothers me is public school educated twats who want to pull the ladder up because they can't stand the competition.
It's not about pulling the ladder, it is all about damaging those children outside of the grammar school system.
Look at what Sir Michael Wilshaw has said just this week. (I know he's an expert, but just look at the stats)
Look at the evidence Michael Gove saw, he was right, we need to improve the standards across all schools, not just a few.
Mrs Thatcher as Education Secretary abolished/merged more grammars than anyone else, and never reintroduced any as she saw the evidence.
As I said, we can close the grammars when we close the fee paying schools. I'm happy with that stalemate.
Not close them, just make sure we don't open any more grammar schools.
Mrs Thatcher as Education Secretary abolished/merged more grammars than anyone else, and never reintroduced any as she saw the evidence.
People from my sort of background needed Grammar schools to compete with children from privileged homes like Shirley Williams and Anthony Wedgwood Benn.
- M. H. Thatcher, speech to the Conservative Party Conference 1977.
How many grammar schools did she open as PM, and how many did she close/merge as Education Secretary?
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Or, we could just improve the Secondary moderns and Comprehensives. Just a thought...
That's fine as well, what bothers me is public school educated twats who want to pull the ladder up because they can't stand the competition.
It's not about pulling the ladder, it is all about damaging those children outside of the grammar school system.
Look at what Sir Michael Wilshaw has said just this week. (I know he's an expert, but just look at the stats)
Look at the evidence Michael Gove saw, he was right, we need to improve the standards across all schools, not just a few.
Mrs Thatcher as Education Secretary abolished/merged more grammars than anyone else, and never reintroduced any as she saw the evidence.
As I said, we can close the grammars when we close the fee paying schools. I'm happy with that stalemate.
Not close them, just make sure we don't open any more grammar schools.
Grammar schools are free at the point of use, so working class kids can attend them.
If May is Windows and Cameron is MacOS. What's Corbyn?
MS-DOS?
A better comparison would be mobile phones:-
May would be iOS Cameron - Android, Corbyn Windows phone or possibly Symbian....
No Windows Phone and Symbian were fairly competent and Symbian was very successful at one time. Corbyn would be some half-baked OS like BB10, with the cultists insisting that everyone can see how brilliant it is and that overwhelming success is just around the corner.
Are they not all earning 3x the average wage? – What criteria are you setting?
Competence, lack thereof.
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
We can close the grammar schools at the same time as all fee paying schools are closed. Deal?
Or, we could just improve the Secondary moderns and Comprehensives. Just a thought...
That's fine as well, what bothers me is public school educated twats who want to pull the ladder up because they can't stand the competition.
It's not about pulling the ladder, it is all about damaging those children outside of the grammar school system.
Look at what Sir Michael Wilshaw has said just this week. (I know he's an expert, but just look at the stats)
Look at the evidence Michael Gove saw, he was right, we need to improve the standards across all schools, not just a few.
Mrs Thatcher as Education Secretary abolished/merged more grammars than anyone else, and never reintroduced any as she saw the evidence.
As I said, we can close the grammars when we close the fee paying schools. I'm happy with that stalemate.
The problem with grammars is not the grammars themselves, but the secondary moderns we end up with around them.
And - as a country - we have a bigger problem with the educational standards of the next 75% than the top 25%.
If May is Windows and Cameron is MacOS. What's Corbyn?
Surely a mainframe operating system? Inflexible, horribly expensive and hard to use.
- I just had a Proustian moment about George, the OS for an ICL machine that I was slightly acquainted with. The main thing I recall was the ridiculously long command names.
Speaking of consoles, the PS4 Neo is likely to be announced tonight. So, if you've been considering getting a PS4, hold off a while (even if you go for a slim, the Neo's release will see the peasant edition of the console come down in price).
I see two of our most respected correspondents have this afternoon touted Dan Jarvis as a Labour leader in the early twenties, and one that would be successful in reviving his party's fortunes. What I don't understand is why they should think that. To be sure he seems a nice chap, understands leadership and has a very good back-story, but what are his politics? Where is the evidence for political acumen, the ability to formulate and deliver policies that non-labour people find attractive. I think he gave a speech a couple of months back that was reported in the papers but other than that he has been invisible.
He reminds me of Rory Stewart another new politician with a good back-story and on whom such high hopes were once pinned. Stewart seems to have sunk without trace too.
A good story to tell about your past and a eing a blank sheet of paper on which everyone can project their own wishes is not sufficient.
One that was on display in WH Smiths for years, someone's swapped the keys around, and jammed gum into the Microdrive. Then, one day, against all expectation, it has been sold to some punter, and suddenly it's required to work properly.
"I took London's Red Ken and I brought him down to our level. It wasn't hard. You see, madness, as you know, is like gravity. All it takes is a little push!"
Steven Winstone #PMQs "I've received an email from a washing machine salesman called Jim. He's worried about Romanian sex workers.." https://t.co/wnPNiVAZlN
If May is Windows and Cameron is MacOS. What's Corbyn?
Surely a mainframe operating system? Inflexible, horribly expensive and hard to use.
- I just had a Proustian moment about George, the OS for an ICL machine that I was slightly acquainted with. The main thing I recall was the ridiculously long command names.
Like an old mainframe Corybn also requires a room full of acolytes to brink him to life.
If before the next general election the only credible alternative to Corbyn as lead is McDonnell. If after a Corbyn and McDonnell defeat at the next general election and the 35 MP nomination threshold holds then Jarvis or Umunna are the best candidates to win the 2025 general election. If a Corbynista wins the membership again in 2020 and Lewis and Nunn are both Corbynistas, then Labour will most likely split anyway, with the moderate wing forming a new party with maybe the LDs and perhaps even a few Remain backing Tories
If May is Windows and Cameron is MacOS. What's Corbyn?
Surely a mainframe operating system? Inflexible, horribly expensive and hard to use.
- I just had a Proustian moment about George, the OS for an ICL machine that I was slightly acquainted with. The main thing I recall was the ridiculously long command names.
Like an old mainframe Corybn also requires a room full of acolytes to brink him to life.
There's only one man left who understands how he works and getting him down from Liverpool would cost a king's ransom.
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I feel a thread coming up where I compare Theresa May at PMQs as the Windows operating system to the Apple OS that is David Cameron
"Here's why the quarrel about grammar schools never ends: it is not really about schools, but about what sort of country this should be.
Grammar schools stood for adult authority, for discipline, for tradition, for hard work first and reward afterwards, and for self-improvement."
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2016/08/peter-hitchens-grammar-wreckers-knew-they-would-make-our-schools-worse.html
People who attend Grammar schools are clearly overrated and have an unfair advantage in the job market over those who attended Secondary moderns and comprehensives.
And the Secondary Moderns most kids were consigned to at the age of eleven.
What did they stand for?
May is popular and understood by everyone, but Cameron was just for the elite?
May can handle all sorts of situations, but Cameron just his own limited apps friends?
May delivers more for less, and Cameron was over-priced?
Yes, that could work.
At least Grammars are free at the point of use!
It is also deservedly prestigious as it sets the agenda.
Apple copied a lot of ideas from other people (MP3 players, the OS graphical interface), but I agree they commercialise them first the best.
As to not crashing, the benefits they get are at the cost of reducing the various hardware you can run on, the software you can use, and the options and functionality you can enjoy.
Personally, I can handle the power and don't need to be in the Apple Kindergarten.
PPP
Clinton up 57/31 with voters under 45 in FL, 50/41 with voters under 65. But Trump's up 59/39 with seniors: https://t.co/EsOu2iNsOR
May would be iOS Cameron - Android, Corbyn Windows phone or possibly Symbian....
You can's possibly mean the elitist, cultist Apple that forces you to work the way *they* want you to, and charge you through the nose to do so. For none of that, especially elitist, could ever apply to Dave.
(*) Yes, I know it didn't happen like that.
If Corbyn is being likened to a computer OS, then surely it must be not only obsolete, but also crap-at-the-time... MS-DOS
Nothing wrong with an abacus.
Look at what Sir Michael Wilshaw has said just this week. (I know he's an expert, but just look at the stats)
Look at the evidence Michael Gove saw, he was right, we need to improve the standards across all schools, not just a few.
Mrs Thatcher as Education Secretary abolished/merged more grammars than anyone else, and never reintroduced any as she saw the evidence.
- M. H. Thatcher, speech to the Conservative Party Conference 1977.
Acorn OS and the later Risc OS were superb for the time.
If Corbyn was any Acorn OS, he was Arthur OS ...
http://www.mjpye.org.uk/images/screens/arthur2.gif
And yes, those colours were the real ones.
Corbyn = AMSTRAD, an annoying bearded git from the 80s.
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/773532041262559232
POTUS tightening.
And - as a country - we have a bigger problem with the educational standards of the next 75% than the top 25%.
"Shopper arrested for punching newborn baby after 'mistaking her for toy doll'"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/07/shopper-arrested-for-punching-newborn-baby-after-mistaking-her-f/
"Just before you go, Ken, any update on the Third Reich?"
If true, that has implications almost as dramatic as the consequences of the chapter I'm writing now.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01417/sugar3_1417899i.jpg
- I just had a Proustian moment about George, the OS for an ICL machine that I was slightly acquainted with. The main thing I recall was the ridiculously long command names.
Your comparison is apt.
Smith = Windows 8
Doesn't an abacus usually have coloured blobs that you can move around?
He reminds me of Rory Stewart another new politician with a good back-story and on whom such high hopes were once pinned. Stewart seems to have sunk without trace too.
A good story to tell about your past and a eing a blank sheet of paper on which everyone can project their own wishes is not sufficient.
http://www.amstrad.com/products/emailers/
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/florida/
So he is probably an early edition of Windows, an inferior rip off of MacOS (Blair).
SNP/PC can't go any higher than 5% I think.
Greens on 7 ?
The front page #OTD in 1991. Soviet Union recognizes the independence of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. #nytimes https://t.co/PF4NCoyYmE
CON: 40% (+2)
LAB: 29% (-1)
UKIP: 13% (-1)
LDEM: 7% (-)
GRN: 3% (-1)
(via YouGov / 04 - 05 Sep)
#PMQs "I've received an email from a washing machine salesman called Jim. He's worried about Romanian sex workers.." https://t.co/wnPNiVAZlN
BSD perhaps...
Well: 48%
Badly: 17%
NET: +31
(via YouGov)
@britainelects: On how well Jeremy Corbyn is doing as Labour leader:
Well: 21%
Badly: 61%
NET: -40
(via YouGov)
Only 71 points...