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A few days ago I Tweeted a 65+ breakdown from a recent poll and found myself being attacked for highlighting a small sample subset with all the inherent possibilities for distortion. Fair enough.

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JosiasJessop

First.

Two in a row.

Labour are in real trouble, thread #4325 of 96813

FrancisUrquhart

First...Like Jim to a party....

Still lets get this party started...oh and would you like to buy a washing machine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW1dbiD_zDk

Sandpit

Bronze? Welcome back Mike OGH, hope you had a good holiday!

PlatoSaid

TeamGB! after DQs

TheScreamingEagles

Sandpit said:

Bronze? Welcome back Mike OGH, hope you had a good holiday!

I wish. Mike's on holiday for another week.

FrancisUrquhart

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

Bronze? Welcome back Mike OGH, hope you had a good holiday!

I wish. Mike's on holiday for another week.

OGH on holiday...nothing ever happens...

weejonnie

Shows how much England have improved if we're complaining about them getting 'only' 275 +

FrancisUrquhart

weejonnie said:

Shows how much England have improved if we're complaining about them getting 'only' 275 +

Might not be enough today. Par is about 300 on this ground and England playing a weaker bowling attack. If Stokes hadn't gone, we would have got 350.

PlatoSaid

Skip Licker
Breaking: Traumatised washing machine sold by Keith Vaz discovered living rough https://t.co/PY7DzqrJPt

Sandpit

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

Bronze? Welcome back Mike OGH, hope you had a good holiday!

I wish. Mike's on holiday for another week.

Ha ha. Enjoy the next week then, nothing ever happens when Mike's on holiday!

MP_SE

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

FrancisUrquhart

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Its a total mystery...lets also not forget that Vaz's expenses were a disgrace.

PlatoSaid

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Sandpit

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

FrancisUrquhart

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

PlatoSaid

FrancisUrquhart said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Its a total mystery...lets also not forget that Vaz's expenses were a disgrace.

I always imagined him reclining panjaram style on his 22 silk cushions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5298267/Keith-Vaz-75000-for-a-flat-12-miles-from-home.html

runnymede

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

Why only now, eh? That's the question.

TheScreamingEagles

On topic. If these figures are accurate at a general election a Jeremy Corbyn led Labour Party are going to get mullered like the Bulgars at the battle of Kleidion

Sunil_Prasannan

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

Bronze? Welcome back Mike OGH, hope you had a good holiday!

I wish. Mike's on holiday for another week.

*Sunil struggles to stifle a giggle*

TheScreamingEagles

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

PlatoSaid

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

FrancisUrquhart

runnymede said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

Why only now, eh? That's the question.

There are legal proceedings ongoing....

PlatoSaid

FrancisUrquhart said:

runnymede said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

Why only now, eh? That's the question.

There are legal proceedings ongoing....

And all that Nick/Exaro nonsense hasn't helped one bit.

philiph

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Is that Jim the washing machine salesman who has a wife making her living as a Solicitor?

Sandpit

runnymede said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

Why only now, eh? That's the question.

Indeed. More questions than answers so far, who's been protecting him? Is it that he's always been very quick to reach for his learned friends, and now the press have caught him red handed with something he can't deny?

Pulpstar

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

New legs.

SouthamObserver

The Tories look after their client vote very well. Throw in Corbyn and it will be a bloodbath.

dr_spyn

Corbyn is one of the worst political speakers I have had the misfortune to hear, with a wooden delivery of interesting far left Labour history facts. Abbott was almost as bad, but thankfully her speech was comparatively brief. Both of them know how to reach out to the faithful, but appear to be incapable of appealing to floating voters. The Jezza rally was rather like a religious revivalist meeting of Methodists or CofE happy clappy Alpha Groupies. I made my excuses and left.

GIN1138

If there's a by-election in Leicester East within the next few months could "The Prince Across The Water" be lined up for a safe Lab seat?

Or how about Mr Strictly?

CarlottaVance

The other factor is that the over 65s have experience of left wing Labour in practice, unlike Corbyn's more youthful enthusiasts...

The Vaz story is going to run and run...normally it would be damaging for Labour - but in current circumstances it's nowt but a flesh wound...

Sunil_Prasannan

TheScreamingEagles said:

On topic. If these figures are accurate at a general election a Jeremy Corbyn led Labour Party are going to get mullered like the Bulgars at the battle of Kleidion

Or the Pakistanis in December 1971 the ODI tour of England 2016?

PlatoSaid

philiph said:

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Is that Jim the washing machine salesman who has a wife making her living as a Solicitor?

I recognised the name of his legal chappy on Twitter earlier - Stephen something IIRC. Anyone know his background?

weejonnie

FrancisUrquhart said:

weejonnie said:

Shows how much England have improved if we're complaining about them getting 'only' 275 +

Might not be enough today. Par is about 300 on this ground and England playing a weaker bowling attack. If Stokes hadn't gone, we would have got 350.

So England reach par - should be a good game with scoreboard pressure.

Sandpit

England scrape 300, should be game on for the visitors from here, thus vindicating their decision to bowl first.

Sunil_Prasannan

Is Vaz a Corbynista or a Smithite?

John_M

CarlottaVance said:

The other factor is that the over 65s have experience of left wing Labour in practice, unlike Corbyn's more youthful enthusiasts...

The Vaz story is going to run and run...normally it would be damaging for Labour - but in current circumstances it's nowt but a flesh wound...

Not just the over 65s. I was 18 during the Winter of Discontent and those memories will never leave me.

SimonStClare

Never crossed my mind that the 65+ would identify with someone of their own generation. I guess they’ve seen it all before and know a snake oil merchant when they see one.

GIN1138

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Is Vaz a Corbynista or a Smithite?

Vaz is for Vaz, first, second and last...

John_M

GIN1138 said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Is Vaz a Corbynista or a Smithite?

Vaz is for Vaz, first, second and last...

Vaz is a Tory. Only Tories are allowed sex scandals, Labour scandals are about money. Union rules.

GIN1138

Looks like Theresa is generally getting a bloody good finger wagging from the G20... From the back of the queue to the naughty step?

nunu

'I can honestly say I have never seen a Republican presidential campaign with this weak of a field presence,' said a Florida Republican.

SouthamObserver said:

The Tories look after their client vote very well. Throw in Corbyn and it will be a bloodbath.

Let's not start on New Labour and their client vote....


......*Cough*Mass immigration*Cough.

Morris_Dancer

Good afternoon, everyone.

F1: setting about the post-race piece now. Somewhat interesting result. Mildly frustrating race.

GIN1138

CarlottaVance said:

The Vaz story is going to run and run...normally it would be damaging for Labour - but in current circumstances it's nowt but a flesh wound...

I doubt the Vaz story would do much damage to Labour even in normal circusmtances.

He's just a very strange person. Always has been... Just one of those really "odd" characters that you find in politics in all parties. I would suspect it's kind of factored in with him that pretty much anything could come out about him at any time.

PlatoSaid

John_M said:

CarlottaVance said:

The other factor is that the over 65s have experience of left wing Labour in practice, unlike Corbyn's more youthful enthusiasts...

The Vaz story is going to run and run...normally it would be damaging for Labour - but in current circumstances it's nowt but a flesh wound...

Not just the over 65s. I was 18 during the Winter of Discontent and those memories will never leave me.

I was a little younger, but rubbish piled 12ft high in the street next to my bus stop stuck. Ditto Save It! stickers above every lightswitch/power cuts/BBC and others off air a few yrs around same period.

nunu

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-ground-game-insiders-224998

I would like to hear from LEAVE canvassers across the U.K and compare it to Trump's. Was it better, worse?

Speedy

For those paying attention the US Presidential election starts this Friday, with postal voting in N.Carolina :
http://ncsbe2.azurewebsites.net/election-calendar

FrancisUrquhart

GIN1138 said:

CarlottaVance said:

The Vaz story is going to run and run...normally it would be damaging for Labour - but in current circumstances it's nowt but a flesh wound...

I doubt the Vaz story would do much damage to Labour even in normal circusmtances.

He's just a very strange person. Always has been... Just one of those really "odd" characters that you find in politics in all parties. I would suspect it's kind of factored in with him that pretty much anything could come out about him at any time.

His constituents will still vote him back in with a big mandate to boot.

John_M

GIN1138 said:

Looks like Theresa is generally getting a bloody good finger wagging from the G20... From the back of the queue to the naughty step?

The Japanese remarks are aimed as much at the EU as the UK - per the document title. Similarly, the USA are making it clear that they want no shenanigans - they're pissed off with us and the Germans for making a mountainous fuck up out of a molehill.

I completely agree that they're picking on the new girl though .

TheScreamingEagles

Joe Root's a little shit, last year he was laughing at Alastair Cook getting hit in the nuts, then this today

https://twitter.com/englandcricket/status/772410237869395969

woody662

PlatoSaid said:

philiph said:

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Is that Jim the washing machine salesman who has a wife making her living as a Solicitor?

I recognised the name of his legal chappy on Twitter earlier - Stephen something IIRC. Anyone know his background?

I understand he has the same solicitor as Julian Assange

Speedy

The media have found their scandal expert:

https://twitter.com/StigAbell/status/772423358600404993

PlatoSaid

woody662 said:

PlatoSaid said:

philiph said:

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Is that Jim the washing machine salesman who has a wife making her living as a Solicitor?

I recognised the name of his legal chappy on Twitter earlier - Stephen something IIRC. Anyone know his background?

I understand he has the same solicitor as Julian Assange

That's it! Well spotted.

Morris_Dancer

F1: post-race analysis for Italy, and some considerations of the next race, is up now:
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/italy-post-race-analysis-2016.html

FrancisUrquhart

Speedy said:

The media have found their scandal expert:

https://twitter.com/StigAbell/status/772423358600404993

LOL.

Speedy

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

GIN1138

Speedy said:

The media have found their scandal expert:

https://twitter.com/StigAbell/status/772423358600404993

And there's another MP that is just very, very odd...

woody662

PlatoSaid said:

woody662 said:

PlatoSaid said:

philiph said:

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Is that Jim the washing machine salesman who has a wife making her living as a Solicitor?

I recognised the name of his legal chappy on Twitter earlier - Stephen something IIRC. Anyone know his background?

I understand he has the same solicitor as Julian Assange

That's it! Well spotted.

All on an MP's salary!!!!

Morris_Dancer

Comrade Speedy, don't worry! I am sure Chairman Corbyn has another eminently suitable person in mind to occupy the seat that will surely be vacated by the unwanted Blairite, ex-Comrade Vaz.

MaxPB

The F1 was deadly boring today. Bring on 2017 and unrestricted engine development.

philiph

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

Is the inference there that he isn't adequately Corbynista? I don't follow the Mirror to know what stance they take on Corbyn / Smith

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Max, I'm intrigued to see how Honda do next year.

Sandpit

Speedy said:

The media have found their scandal expert:

https://twitter.com/StigAbell/status/772423358600404993

Oh dear. Someone really needs to have a word with Danszuk for his own sanity.

Mortimer

SouthamObserver said:

The Tories look after their client vote very well. Throw in Corbyn and it will be a bloodbath.

After the way Brown treated Labour client vote pre 2010 it would take Labour a lot of brass neck to draw attention to it.

PlatoSaid

woody662 said:

PlatoSaid said:

woody662 said:

PlatoSaid said:

philiph said:

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Is that Jim the washing machine salesman who has a wife making her living as a Solicitor?

I recognised the name of his legal chappy on Twitter earlier - Stephen something IIRC. Anyone know his background?

I understand he has the same solicitor as Julian Assange

That's it! Well spotted.

All on an MP's salary!!!!

Doesn't he own 5 houses? The new Meacher - he left something like £5m in his will!!!!

Washing machine sales really pull in the big bucks.

FrancisUrquhart

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

weejonnie

Potentially interesting German regional election today. Wonder how many more AfD electees will go to Parliament in Abayas

philiph

PlatoSaid said:

woody662 said:

PlatoSaid said:

woody662 said:

PlatoSaid said:

philiph said:

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Is that Jim the washing machine salesman who has a wife making her living as a Solicitor?

I recognised the name of his legal chappy on Twitter earlier - Stephen something IIRC. Anyone know his background?

I understand he has the same solicitor as Julian Assange

That's it! Well spotted.

All on an MP's salary!!!!

Doesn't he own 5 houses? The new Meacher - he left something like £5m in his will!!!!

Washing machine sales really pull in the big bucks.

Under the circumstances described in the Mirror story, is the term 'Big Bucks' a double entendre?

Mortimer

nunu said:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-ground-game-insiders-224998

I would like to hear from LEAVE canvassers across the U.K and compare it to Trump's. Was it better, worse?

Amazing how those with a weak campaign strategy and unpopular candidate pin hopes on an excellent ground game. Remember IOS?

philiph

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

So the next question is do Momentum have a strong presence in his constituency?

Assuming it is a religious part of Leicester the gay element may be unhelpful to him.

Edited to add:

The obvious source is the other attendees at the 'party' for cash. The Mirror may not be the obvious outlet, but they were reported as East European, so may not know our press and the leanings they have.

PlatoSaid

philiph said:

PlatoSaid said:

woody662 said:

PlatoSaid said:

woody662 said:

PlatoSaid said:

philiph said:

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Is that Jim the washing machine salesman who has a wife making her living as a Solicitor?

I recognised the name of his legal chappy on Twitter earlier - Stephen something IIRC. Anyone know his background?

I understand he has the same solicitor as Julian Assange

That's it! Well spotted.

All on an MP's salary!!!!

Doesn't he own 5 houses? The new Meacher - he left something like £5m in his will!!!!

Washing machine sales really pull in the big bucks.

Under the circumstances described in the Mirror story, is the term 'Big Bucks' a double entendre?

Ride 'em cowboy!

Speedy

Morris_Dancer said:

Comrade Speedy, don't worry! I am sure Chairman Corbyn has another eminently suitable person in mind to occupy the seat that will surely be vacated by the unwanted Blairite, ex-Comrade Vaz.

Vaz is a faction of his own though.

But the scandal is definitely a part of Labour's internal war, the N.E.C. was about to discuss reinstalling shadow cabinet elections in order to diminish Corbyn's authority to a minimum.

Since the balance of power on the N.E.C is very fine, with a Corbyn majority of 1 or 2, the Mirror getting rid of Keith Vaz may alter that fine balance.

MaxPB

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Max, I'm intrigued to see how Honda do next year.

Yes, so am I. They seem to be getting their ducks in a row quite well, I'm hoping that all the engine manufacturers can be competitive with Mercedes and we'll get back to driver vs driver action rather than just engine power and tyre strategy deciding the races.

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Max, the tyres are unforgivable.

Trying to reproduce a certain Canadian race when the tyres went off the boil (and it was genuinely exciting) was always going to fail, and they've persisted with it for years.

Speedy

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

I know, getting rid of Vaz makes sense only if the Mirror is sure that his replacement is an unreconstructed blairite.

Vaz was pretty much a swing vote on the N.E.C.

GIN1138

Was a relief to hear Eddie Izzard's beret and handbag was rescued from the clutches of that vile yobbo yesterday!

PlatoSaid

philiph said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

So the next question is do Momentum have a strong presence in his constituency?

Assuming it is a religious part of Leicester the gay element may be unhelpful to him.

Edited to add:

The obvious source is the other attendees at the 'party' for cash. The Mirror may not be the obvious outlet, but they were reported as East European, so may not know our press and the leanings they have.

I thought he was a Catholic from Goa - then read he's from Yemen. I'm sure he was the MP I profiled as a 'personality' for the BBC R5 Worricker Sunday prog 7-8 yrs ago.

GIN1138

Speedy said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

I know, getting rid of Vaz makes sense only if the Mirror is sure that his replacement is an unreconstructed blairite.

Vaz was pretty much a swing vote on the N.E.C.

Mr Strictly could be on the way to rescue Labour very soon!

PlatoSaid

GIN1138 said:

Was a relief to hear Eddie Izzard's beret and handbag was rescued from the clutches of that vile yobbo yesterday!

They've charged the bloke with theft! 6 rozzers pinning him to the ground will be the iconic celebs treated differently image.

Paul_Bedfordshire

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Just out of interest did any journalistic hack(er) find out the surname of this Jim character?

philiph

GIN1138 said:

Speedy said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

I know, getting rid of Vaz makes sense only if the Mirror is sure that his replacement is an unreconstructed blairite.

Vaz was pretty much a swing vote on the N.E.C.

Mr Strictly could be on the way to rescue Labour very soon!

Is he really acceptable to the selectorate?

How did he vote on Iraq?
Is he left enough?
Is he tainted by Brownism and Blairism, and therefore a Tory?

GIN1138

PlatoSaid said:

GIN1138 said:

Was a relief to hear Eddie Izzard's beret and handbag was rescued from the clutches of that vile yobbo yesterday!

They've charged the bloke with theft! 6 rozzers pinning him to the ground will be the iconic celebs treated differently image.

And here was me thinking the whole thing was set up to give Eddie Izzard some long over due media attention?

Speedy

GIN1138 said:

Speedy said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

I know, getting rid of Vaz makes sense only if the Mirror is sure that his replacement is an unreconstructed blairite.

Vaz was pretty much a swing vote on the N.E.C.

Mr Strictly could be on the way to rescue Labour very soon!

I doubt it that the Mirror did this to force Vaz to resign from his commons seat for Ed Balls, forcing him out of the N.E.C. is more plausible.

SimonStClare

Indie – “It's heroic of Keith Vaz to have done so much personal research into the prostitution laws he was helping to reform”

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/keith-vaz-male-prostitutes-controversy-cocaine-drugs-committee-hero-labour-tory-politicians-personal-a7225196.html

The Independent has a sense of humour – who knew..?

PlatoSaid

Paul_Bedfordshire said:

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Just out of interest did any journalistic hack(er) find out the surname of this Jim character?

Jim Hacker?

Paul_Bedfordshire

PlatoSaid said:

GIN1138 said:

Was a relief to hear Eddie Izzard's beret and handbag was rescued from the clutches of that vile yobbo yesterday!

They've charged the bloke with theft! 6 rozzers pinning him to the ground will be the iconic celebs treated differently image.

Bit odd that, hard to prove he intended to permanently deprive him of the beret?

Sunil_Prasannan

PlatoSaid said:

philiph said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

So the next question is do Momentum have a strong presence in his constituency?

Assuming it is a religious part of Leicester the gay element may be unhelpful to him.

Edited to add:

The obvious source is the other attendees at the 'party' for cash. The Mirror may not be the obvious outlet, but they were reported as East European, so may not know our press and the leanings they have.

I thought he was a Catholic from Goa - then read he's from Yemen.

He was born in Aden, Yemen in 1956, but his parents are from Goa. He moved to the UK in 1965

FrancisUrquhart

At least four women 'are sexually assaulted by immigrant men during a rampage at a party in Germany' in a chilling echo of the New Year's Eve attacks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3773014/At-four-women-sexually-assaulted-immigrant-men-rampage-party-Germany-chilling-echo-New-Year-s-Eve-attacks.html

Nothing to see...more along...

TheScreamingEagles

GIN1138 said:

Speedy said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

I know, getting rid of Vaz makes sense only if the Mirror is sure that his replacement is an unreconstructed blairite.

Vaz was pretty much a swing vote on the N.E.C.

Mr Strictly could be on the way to rescue Labour very soon!

The Ed Balls effect

Strictly Come Dancing's series launch got an average of 9.3 million viewers on Saturday night - a record audience for an opening episode of the show.

The audience peaked at 10.1 million as the BBC One show's 14th series began, with celebrities and professional dancers meeting for the first time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37270968

GIN1138

*SIGH*

How many and Do I have to use before Tyson comes on and blows his top?

Sunil_Prasannan

GIN1138 said:

*SIGH*

How many and Do I have to use before Tyson comes on and blows his top?

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Urquhart, don't worry, once female only train carriages are extended to female-only parties, these problems will disappear.

PlatoSaid

SimonStClare said:

Indie – “It's heroic of Keith Vaz to have done so much personal research into the prostitution laws he was helping to reform”

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/keith-vaz-male-prostitutes-controversy-cocaine-drugs-committee-hero-labour-tory-politicians-personal-a7225196.html

The Independent has a sense of humour – who knew..?

Someone will tell them to do a story on the plight of dead seagulls shortly - perhaps regurgitating oil covered tuna or deceased polar bears.

I can't recall the last time I looked at it. If I guessed it's brand values - I'd go for worthy, tutting, aspiring vegan - with added clickbait. That its fake frontpage gets coverage in the paper reviews is laughable.

nunu

Mortimer said:

nunu said:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-ground-game-insiders-224998

I would like to hear from LEAVE canvassers across the U.K and compare it to Trump's. Was it better, worse?

Amazing how those with a weak campaign strategy and unpopular candidate pin hopes on an excellent ground game. Remember IOS?

No. what did he say?

GIN1138

TheScreamingEagles said:

GIN1138 said:

Speedy said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

I know, getting rid of Vaz makes sense only if the Mirror is sure that his replacement is an unreconstructed blairite.

Vaz was pretty much a swing vote on the N.E.C.

Mr Strictly could be on the way to rescue Labour very soon!

The Ed Balls effect

Strictly Come Dancing's series launch got an average of 9.3 million viewers on Saturday night - a record audience for an opening episode of the show.

The audience peaked at 10.1 million as the BBC One show's 14th series began, with celebrities and professional dancers meeting for the first time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37270968

Didn't watch, Did he get the new Russian Blonde?

Sandpit

MaxPB said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Max, I'm intrigued to see how Honda do next year.

Yes, so am I. They seem to be getting their ducks in a row quite well, I'm hoping that all the engine manufacturers can be competitive with Mercedes and we'll get back to driver vs driver action rather than just engine power and tyre strategy deciding the races.

Indeed. It's said that Honda have made a major change to their engine which puts it up with the Ferrri if not the Mercedes, but they can't use it because of the silly tokens rule. It's supposed to be a development formula, so let them get on and develop!

PlatoSaid

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Urquhart, don't worry, once female only train carriages are extended to female-only parties, these problems will disappear.

You are Sandy Tokvig and I claim 5 episodes of the New Quiz.

Floater

FrancisUrquhart said:

At least four women 'are sexually assaulted by immigrant men during a rampage at a party in Germany' in a chilling echo of the New Year's Eve attacks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3773014/At-four-women-sexually-assaulted-immigrant-men-rampage-party-Germany-chilling-echo-New-Year-s-Eve-attacks.html

Nothing to see...more along...

Seems to be a lot of "mental illness" across Europe and the wider world this year.

Paul_Bedfordshire

PlatoSaid said:

Paul_Bedfordshire said:

PlatoSaid said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

PlatoSaid said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

I confess to thinking the Janner stuff was a bit after-the-fact and overblown re Vaz/Elm House home.

Now - it looks awfully dubious.

Go and have a look at Janner's close associates....

Jim the washing machine salesman will fix it - for you, and you and you!

Just out of interest did any journalistic hack(er) find out the surname of this Jim character?

Jim Hacker?

Yes, Minister....

Sandpit

Sunil_Prasannan said:

PlatoSaid said:

philiph said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

So the next question is do Momentum have a strong presence in his constituency?

Assuming it is a religious part of Leicester the gay element may be unhelpful to him.

Edited to add:

The obvious source is the other attendees at the 'party' for cash. The Mirror may not be the obvious outlet, but they were reported as East European, so may not know our press and the leanings they have.

I thought he was a Catholic from Goa - then read he's from Yemen.

He was born in Aden, Yemen in 1956, but his parents are from Goa. He moved to the UK in 1965

Is it naughty to ask if we can deport him back to his place of birth?

rottenborough

GIN1138 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

GIN1138 said:

Speedy said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Speedy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

MP_SE said:

"Keith Vaz helped kill a 90s probe into the Greville Janner claims: why is he silent now?"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/keith-vaz-helped-kill-90s-probe-greville-janner-claims-why-is-vaz-silent-now

Oh dear, looks like Fleet St. have all opened their files on Vaz. This isn't going to end well for him.

The story is a few months old.

I think I know why the story is breaking now and from the Mirror.
Keith Vaz is on the N.E.C.

But the Mirror hate Corbyn.

I know, getting rid of Vaz makes sense only if the Mirror is sure that his replacement is an unreconstructed blairite.

Vaz was pretty much a swing vote on the N.E.C.

Mr Strictly could be on the way to rescue Labour very soon!

The Ed Balls effect

Strictly Come Dancing's series launch got an average of 9.3 million viewers on Saturday night - a record audience for an opening episode of the show.

The audience peaked at 10.1 million as the BBC One show's 14th series began, with celebrities and professional dancers meeting for the first time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37270968

Didn't watch, Did he get the new Russian Blonde?

He got a Russian, but I don't think she was blonde. Yvette was watching closely from the front row.