I think the athletics is where the big disappointment is. Excluding Mr Mobot and the two other s that got medals, we aren't competitive in lots and lots of events. Its one thing not winning medals, but lots of event we don't even have a top 8 person....where as like the swimming so many finals and a number of 4ths.
We have tradition in 100m -> 1500m and we will be very very lucky to get anybody in the 100m mens final, 200m Gemilli is potentially good but not really on form, 400m the guy was a total shock to get in and won't feature. 800m and 1500m are total busts.
I had a quick look at the British Athletic site. There are two funding strands. Podium (this Olympiad) and Podium Potential (next). There are only 38 athletes funded for 2016, and 40 for Tokyo. I'm unfairly ignoring the Paralympics though.
BBC - Gold medal-winning swimmer Ryan Lochte and three others have been robbed at the Rio Olympics, the US Olympic Committee has confirmed.
Only half way through, what next PR disaster can befall Rio before the end.
The PR disaster to end all PR disasters would be drugs cheat Justin Gatlin winning the 100m. Once again athletics depends on Bolt to save it from its own stupidity.
Hope they've found a way of getting bums on seats in the stadium, the attendance for the first two days was appalling PR for Rio.
The shooting events were well attended. Possibly locals looking for tips?
Say what you will about the legacy of the London Games from a more casual standpoint, but it's clear that winning that bid back in 2005 continues to pay dividends for our athletes. Everything feels so much more professional than it did previously and I do think that we are starting to see successes in areas we were never considered to be leaders in (eg gymnastics, diving) because London did inspire young athletes.
Absolutely, and isn't it great to watch
The lottery funding program has been the key to it, paying for athletes, coaches, facilities and equipment over the many years required to build up to the success we saw in London and continue to see in Rio. It's a huge contrast to the short termism we often criticise Britain for.
That UK sport has an eight year funding cycle really helps with strategic planning.
BBC - Gold medal-winning swimmer Ryan Lochte and three others have been robbed at the Rio Olympics, the US Olympic Committee has confirmed.
Only half way through, what next PR disaster can befall Rio before the end.
The PR disaster to end all PR disasters would be drugs cheat Justin Gatlin winning the 100m. Once again athletics depends on Bolt to save it from its own stupidity.
Hope they've found a way of getting bums on seats in the stadium, the attendance for the first two days was appalling PR for Rio.
The shooting events were well attended. Possibly locals looking for tips?
Our gun laws are frankly beyond stupid for competitors - I can't see any reason why exemptions aren't granted for designated sports shooters.
What is happening to British sport? It's like we're turbo charged - nothing short of sensational.
We should send the entire England football squad on an Olympic boot camp - then they'd learn the value of winning.
Maybe we should put them on a performance related pay scheme!
They don't get paid for England duty...well they do (I can't remember the exact reason but they have to be paid, might be an insurance thing i.e they have to be paid employees for them to be insured), but they donate it all to charity.
The "team" spirit and ethos though compared to when you see so many of they guys / girls at the Olympics is chalk and cheese. The rowers and cyclists are literally willing to die to get their team mates over the line.
I think the athletics is where the big disappointment is. Excluding Mr Mobot and the two other s that got medals, we aren't competitive in lots and lots of events. Its one thing not winning medals, but lots of event we don't even have a top 8 person....where as like the swimming so many finals and a number of 4ths.
We have tradition in 100m -> 1500m and we will be very very lucky to get anybody in the 100m mens final, 200m Gemilli is potentially good but not really on form, 400m the guy was a total shock to get in and won't feature. 800m and 1500m are total busts.
I had a quick look at the British Athletic site. There are two funding strands. Podium (this Olympiad) and Podium Potential (next). There are only 38 athletes funded for 2016, and 40 for Tokyo. I'm unfairly ignoring the Paralympics though.
On first glance, that looks way too few a number when split across all female and male athletics events.
What is happening to British sport? It's like we're turbo charged - nothing short of sensational.
We should send the entire England football squad on an Olympic boot camp - then they'd learn the value of winning.
Maybe we should put them on a performance related pay scheme!
They don't get paid for England duty...well they do (I can't remember the exact reason but they have to be paid, might be an insurance thing i.e they have to be paid employees for them to be insured), but they donate it all to charity.
The "team" spirit and ethos though compared to when you see so many of they guys / girls at the Olympics is chalk and cheese. The rowers and cyclists are literally willing to die to get their team mates over the line.
Most Olympic athletes train for 4 years for one thing. Even the other major championships are only ultimately training for the Olympics. The England football team trains for a few weeks a year for major championships. Comparing the two is fatuous.
What is happening to British sport? It's like we're turbo charged - nothing short of sensational.
We should send the entire England football squad on an Olympic boot camp - then they'd learn the value of winning.
Maybe we should put them on a performance related pay scheme!
They don't get paid for England duty...well they do (I can't remember the exact reason but they have to be paid, might be an insurance thing i.e they have to be paid employees for them to be insured), but they donate it all to charity.
The "team" spirit and ethos though compared to when you see so many of they guys / girls at the Olympics is chalk and cheese. The rowers and cyclists are literally willing to die to get their team mates over the line.
Most Olympic athletes train for 4 years for one thing. Even the other major championships are only ultimately training for the Olympics. The England football team trains for a few weeks a year for major championships. Comparing the two is fatuous.
Its the lack of spirit. The Germans manage to have it, championship after championship. You know they are going to run through walls for each other. In the Euros, Wales had it, Iceland had it.
England have showed it in the rugby under Eddie Jones. I have never seen a recent England football team show this under any manager.
What is happening to British sport? It's like we're turbo charged - nothing short of sensational.
We should send the entire England football squad on an Olympic boot camp - then they'd learn the value of winning.
Maybe we should put them on a performance related pay scheme!
They don't get paid for England duty...well they do (I can't remember the exact reason but they have to be paid, might be an insurance thing i.e they have to be paid employees for them to be insured), but they donate it all to charity.
The "team" spirit and ethos though compared to when you see so many of they guys / girls at the Olympics is chalk and cheese. The rowers and cyclists are literally willing to die to get their team mates over the line.
If they don't get paid, then it becomes an amateur/social event and that has insurance implications the FA has and also income protection plans the players have.
In Rio, that can be easily arranged....The crowds were a disgrace in the mens road racing (cycling) as well. They made the Tour de France lot look like MCC members watching the cricket.
Quite a few sports have some peculiar looking physiques, out of context. I recall reading Michael Phelps has abnormally huge hands and feet, and the legs of an average 5ft 7 man but the torso of an average 6ft 7 man.
Quite a few sports have some peculiar looking physiques, out of context. I recall reading Michael Phelps has abnormally huge hands and feet, and the legs of an average 5ft 7 man but the torso of an average 6ft 7 man.
Usain Bolt is another - he's an incredibly short body. His arms/legs are much longer than his torso.
What is happening to British sport? It's like we're turbo charged - nothing short of sensational.
We should send the entire England football squad on an Olympic boot camp - then they'd learn the value of winning.
Maybe we should put them on a performance related pay scheme!
They don't get paid for England duty...well they do (I can't remember the exact reason but they have to be paid, might be an insurance thing i.e they have to be paid employees for them to be insured), but they donate it all to charity.
The "team" spirit and ethos though compared to when you see so many of they guys / girls at the Olympics is chalk and cheese. The rowers and cyclists are literally willing to die to get their team mates over the line.
Most Olympic athletes train for 4 years for one thing. Even the other major championships are only ultimately training for the Olympics. The England football team trains for a few weeks a year for major championships. Comparing the two is fatuous.
Its the lack of spirit. The Germans manage to have it, championship after championship. You know they are going to run through walls for each other. In the Euros, Wales had it, Iceland had it.
England have showed it in the rugby under Eddie Jones. I have never seen a recent England football team show this under any manager.
RE: Eddie Jones - So who do you blame? The players or the manager?
I doubt German success is based particularly on team spirit - their whole method is designed to make such things irrelevant. The players know their job, and they do it. And every level of German football is structured to assist this.
Betting query: Does anyone know what Horace Batchelor's "infra draw" method for football betting was and whether it could be applied to political betting? I suspect most here don't know about Radio Luxembourg
They asked Leave voters what the British government should prioritise when negotiating withdrawal - staying in the single market or restricting freedom of movement (page 4), and they got figures of 42% and 56%. Ask a silly question, get a silly answer. If they'd asked them "do you think the most important aim for British negotiators should be to restrict immigration?" they'd probably have had 80%+ saying "yes". As for territorial waters, well sure, that's the main issue for some British fishermen.
Thanks for this. Maybe a growing number of voters are realising that in negotiations it is normal to make concessions. I wonder what the figures would have been if they'd put free movement first and given people the option of choosing "Put some restrictions on free movement and settle for having some restrictions on access to the free market".
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The "team" spirit and ethos though compared to when you see so many of they guys / girls at the Olympics is chalk and cheese. The rowers and cyclists are literally willing to die to get their team mates over the line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbkrDevankc
England have showed it in the rugby under Eddie Jones. I have never seen a recent England football team show this under any manager.
Guess this is the required physical form to win.
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I doubt German success is based particularly on team spirit - their whole method is designed to make such things irrelevant. The players know their job, and they do it. And every level of German football is structured to assist this.
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